Suspected Hemorrhagic Pneumonia Outbreak Hits Ukraine

On October 29, the Australian web site reported that:

“Western Ukraine was hit by a severe epidemic of unidentified influenza, tentatively diagnosed by doctors as viral pneumonia. The number of dead has climbed dramatically. Doctors advise Western Ukrainians to stay home and use preventive medicine.”

On October 30, Jane Burgermeister’s reported that:

“More than 30 people have died in the Ukraine as a result of a mysterious new virus that has an affinity for the lungs,” according to Swiss reports. Ukraine’s Health Ministry said the virus’ origin is unknown and showed “no signs of mutating to become more virulent.” So far, 40,000 people were reported sick and 951 hospitalized.

On October 30, reported that Ukraine’s Health Minister, Vasyl Knyazevych, said two laboratories diagnosed 11 of 33 samples tested as “highly influenza A/H1N1.” As a result, he considered declaring a nationwide quarantine, even though western areas alone were affected.

Since October 19, 30 deaths, including one child, from “acute respiratory infections,” were reported, at first called SARS (severe acute respiratory syndrome, a serious form of pneumonia caused by a virus). Influenza A virus affects birds and some mammals like pigs.

WTO Fear Mongering

The WTO says Swine Flu is similar to seasonal strains. Most cases are mild, and many people recover unaided. Yet it called the virus “unstoppable” and, on June 11, declared its highest phase 6 alert, saying: “The world is now at the start of the 2009 influenza pandemic.” On July 13, it stopped just short of mandating mass vaccinations to halt the pandemic’s spread.

On its November 1 “Pandemic (H1N1) 2009” update, it said “more than 199 countries and overseas territories/communities have reported laboratory confirmed cases of pandemic influenza H1N1 2009, including over 6,000 deaths.”

On November 3, it reported the outbreak in Ukraine, “confirmed (as) H1N1 (based on) samples taken from patients in two of the most affected regions,” and concluded that “most (Ukraine influenza) cases are caused by the H1N1 virus.

Infectious disease expert, Dr. Donald Lau, disagrees, saying:

“The statistical probability of this being the same H1N1 virus (is) infinitesimally small.” He believes a highly virulent new strain is to blame. Public health authority, Dr. Leonard G. Horowitz sees a deadly connection between governments and the drug cartel over dangerous, toxic vaccines. On You Tube, he recently warned that:

“These vaccinations contain highly unstable viruses that easily mutate, because they are ‘live active’ laboratory mutants that are being administered…. People shed these ‘live’ viruses up to three weeks following vaccination. That means if you haven’t been vaccinated, and you get near someone who has and then sneezes, you can get their H1N1 laboratory infection.”

He explained that anyone contracting H1N1, from vaccinations or other Swine Flu-infected persons, risks combining it with other internal or environmental viruses, creating a lethal mix that can kill. He expressed great concern about vaccines used to transmit dangerous viruses, capable of mutating into deadly ones, believes this may be happening in Ukraine, and thinks America and other nations may be next.

Ukraine Reports of Overhead Aerosol Spraying

On October 31, Kiev newspaper editors got dozens of calls about light planes doing aerosol spraying during the day. In refuting the claims, the district’s Emergency Response office said “no permission had been granted for small aviation aircraft to fly within the city limits.” Yet eye-witness accounts from Lviv, Ternopil, and other Ukraine cities said the same thing.

On November 8, the South African web site reported that last June 26:

Suspicious aircraft were forced to land. A US operated (Russian-made long-range heavy transport) AN-124 changed its call sign from civilian to military which then triggered a response from the IAF (Indian Air Force) upon entering Pakistani air space (forcing) the plane to land in Mumbai while (a) second one was forced down by Nigerian fighter jets that also arrested the crew.

According to reports, China’s People’s Liberation Army Air Force contacted the Indian and Nigerian intelligence officials about the presence of these US operated Ukrainian aircraft amidst growing concern that the United States was spreading ‘biological agents’ in the Earth’s atmosphere, which some Chinese officials believed to be an attempt to (commit) mass genocide via the spread of H1N1 swine flu.

These aircraft “were carrying ‘waste disposal’ systems that could spray up to 45,000kg (nearly 100,000 pounds) of aerial type mist from sophisticated….nano pipes” in the planes’ wings – called chemtrails.

“Then last week, (aircraft) sprayed (an unknown) substance over Ukraine days before the (mysterious) plague outbreak.”

Quarantine and Martial Law Declared

On October 30, president Viktor Yushchenko quarantined nine regions, ordered mobile military hospitals established throughout the country, and was expected to declare martial law. Reports from western Ukraine said a “severe outbreak of UNIDENTIFIED Influenza, (is) suspected by doctors to be a form of viral pneumonia.”

On November 4, in a nationwide address, Yushchenko cited:

— an “emergency epidemic situation in the country,” caused by “infections of viral origin, including A/H1N1 flu (that are) rapidly spreading across Ukraine;”

— “People are dying; the epidemic is killing doctors;”

— “three pathogens of viral infections came to Ukraine at the same time: two of them are seasonal flu and the third is the A/H1N1; according to virologists, such a combination of infections due to mutation may produce a new, even more aggressive virus;”

— “It is generally known that the only way to prevent any infection is vaccination;” Dr. Viera Scheibner, the world’s foremost vaccine expert, calls it the worst way as vaccines often cause the diseases they’re designed to prevent;

— “in early October,” it was known that “viral infections in the west of the country” were spreading;

— “The current Constitution after alterations in 2004 makes the Government solely responsible for conducting state healthcare policy….(by) my decree I put” the National Security and Defense Council (in charge) of decision-making;”

— “Failure to comply with its orders will immediately result in application to the law enforcement authorities.”

In other words, Yushchenko declared martial law. He also ordered a crackdown on political protests, the arrest of public health officials opposed to mass Swine Flu vaccinations and quarantines, arrests of anyone not complying, and a ban on all infection medicines except Swine Flu vaccines.

By November 6, Deputy Health Minister, Zinovy Mytnyk, said “633,877 people (were) suffering from flu and acute respiratory infections,” and “95” had died.

On November 7, updated the totals to “871,037 Influenza/ARI (acute respiratory infection) cases, 39,603 hospitalized, and 135 deaths, and asked if Baxter released a bioweapon in Ukraine, saying “Evidence appears to suggest” it. It cited a February 24 report that “Baxter Sent Bird Flu Virus to European Labs by Error (containing) contaminated (virus) samples….”

The problem was discovered when inoculated ferrets in a Czech lab died. Austrian health minister, Sigrid Rosenberger, confirmed that Baxter supplied batches “infected with a bird flu virus.” Company spokesperson, Christopher Bona, blamed “human error.” Others were skeptical, including Austrian journalist Jane Burgermeister.

On June 10, she filed sweeping criminal charges with the FBI in addition to earlier April 8 ones with the Vienna State Prosecutor’s Office against Baxter AG, Baxter International and Avir Green Hill Biotechnology AG, “for manufacturing, disseminating, and releasing a biological weapon of mass destruction on Austrian soil between December 2008 and February 2009 with the intention of causing a global bird flu pandemic virus and of intending to profit from that same pandemic in an act that violates laws on international organised crime and genocide.”

Baxter operates Biosafety Level 3 (BLS-3) labs that take strict precautions to assure against accidental H3N2 (human influenza) and H5N1 (bird flu) co-mingling contamination. Letting it happen suggests something more nefarious than an accident.

BLS-3 personnel are trained in handling pathogenic and potentially lethal agents and are supervised by competent, experienced scientists. In addition, these labs have specially engineered design features for added safety.

By combining H3N2 and H5N1 viruses, “Baxter produced a highly dangerous biological weapon with a 63 per cent mortality rate. The H5N1 virus is restricted in its human-to-human transmissibility, especially because it is less airborne.”

“However when… combined with seasonal flu viruses (easily transmitted by air), a new flu virus is created which is unknown to the human immune system and which will have a severe impact on an unprotected population. A deadly virus of this kind could spread around the world in a short time and (potentially) infect millions (or) even billions of people.”

Baxter (via Avir) “distributed (72 kilos of) contaminated (live bird flu) vaccines using false concealment and false labels to 16 laboratories in Austria and… other countries at the end of January/beginning of February, potentially infecting at least 36-37 laboratory staff, who (were) treated preventively for bird flu and ordinary flu.” On the same day, 18 Avir employees were as well at Vienna’s Otto Wagner Hospital.

Burgermeister cited a Baxter-Avir 2006 contract with Austria’s Health Ministry for 16 million vaccine doses in case a bird flu pandemic was declared. This “laboratory incident shows that national and international authorities are not able to fulfill their obligations to ensure the safety of the Austrian people,” and indicates they engaged in a cover-up.

“If a pharmaceutical company can breach laws — and almost trigger a bird flu pandemic, which (potentially could spread worldwide) — without being made accountable for it… then there is, de facto, no rule of law on Austrian territory.”

She also contends that Baxter’s production system, “namely, the use of 1200 liter bioreactors and vero cell technology,” meets “the technical criteria to be classified as a secret dual purpose large-scale bioweapon production facility (able to produce) a huge amount of contaminated vaccine material… rapidly.”

“If (this) material were added to the 1200 liter bioreactors, it would replicate and infect the entire batch of vaccine material in (it). Contaminated material could (then) be distributed among sections of the population using false labels and secretly marked batches (able to) infect millions of people.”

Burgermeister accused high-level Austrian Health and other Ministry officials of knowledge and support of this practice. Otherwise, controls would have prevented it. In June, she named drug producers Baxter, Novartis and Sanofi Aventis; world agencies, including the WHO, UN, and CDC; and high-level officials in Austria, other European countries, and America.

Did Baxter Release a Bioweapon in Ukraine?

Baxter has a facility in Ukraine. Given the above evidence, it may be behind the current outbreak. A November 1 David Rothscum article headlined: “Has Baxter International released a biological weapon,” in citing an earlier Huffington Post report on a man named Joseph Moshe, a Mossad biological warfare expert. True or not, he warned, on an August radio program, about “a biological weapon… being made by Baxter International(‘s Ukraine facility) that would be spread through vaccine and would cause a plague upon its release.” Having reported this two months before the outbreak lends credence to his story.

In August, Ukraine was almost influenza free. On October 30, said only two cases of Swine Flu had been reported. According to, on March 26, reports were that “thousands of Ukrainians refused” to be vaccinated, because of fears about “diphtheria, mumps, polio, hepatitis B, tuberculosis, (and) whooping cough among others. Health officials said (this) could lead to disease outbreaks….” Perhaps unleashing a “biological weapon” is how to convince them and millions elsewhere.

Rothscum confirmed Moshe’s credentials, noting that “massive numbers of microbiologists have been dying bizarre deaths.” Among them:

  • Stephen Lagakos, Professor of Biostatistics and AIDS researcher at Harvard’s School of Public Health, died in an October auto collision;
  • Malcolm Casadaban, reknown molecular geneticist, died of plague in September;
  • Wallace Pannier, noted germ warfare scientist, died in August of respiratory failure;
  • August “Gus” Watanabe, former Eli Lilly and Company Executive Vice President of Science and Technology and former head of its Research Laboratories, died of apparent self-inflicted wounds from a .38-caliber handgun; a note left behind cited depression over his daughter’s death;
  • Caroline Coffey, Cornell University post-doctoral biomedicine researcher, died in June from massive cuts to her throat; and
  • Nasser Talebzadeh Ordoubadi, a Mind-Body-Quantum medicine pioneer and discoverer of an antitoxin treatment for bioweapons, died in February of “suspicious” causes.

On November 7, asked:

Is the Ukraine outbreak “the plague? A mutated virus? Or is the plague the cover for introducing a mutated virus?” Citing the South African web site, it wondered if the Ukraine Swine Flu strain “might have mutated (to) pneumonic plague.”

It reported Ukraine’s Deputy Minister of Health saying his nation has a different H1N1 strain than the rest of the world because of how many were infected so fast. Other officials disagree and suggest this one may have mutated to something else because it “has a much bigger rate of filling the lungs with blood…. The plague or virus in the Ukraine has 10 times the mortality rate (attributed to) normal swine flu.”

However, unconfirmed reports are that “people are going on as normal… they also say this is fear mongering” to promote voluntary vaccinations. “Everyone is waiting for the gene sequences which will confirm whether this has been hyped up, a real mutated H1N1, or just bad (Ukraine) health services.” Perhaps exaggerated illness and death reports to stoke fear and be a pretext for what followed.

Ukraine is now under martial law. Civil liberties are suspended. By government edict, anyone may be criminally prosecuted. Scheduled January elections may be delayed or cancelled. Public demonstrations are banned. Political opponents are prohibited from traveling in quarantined areas. Borders are partially closed. Mandated vaccinations are coming. WHO fear-mongering is hyping the danger. A month before the outbreak, it took part in a bioterrorism plague exercise. On November 7, Lake of the Hills, IL police conducted their own against pneumonic plague as part of the McHenry County Department of Health’s emergency planning.

Burgermeister suggests to Baxter the:

WTO and the international corporate crime syndicate that funds them may have decided they could go ahead with their plan to trigger a pandemic in Europe and the USA because the public awareness of the dangers of the vaccine has become too great, not least as a result of WHO and Baxter being caught contaminating 72 kilos of vaccine material with the live bird flu virus in February.

Opposition to Vaccinations in Europe

Across the continent, opposition is widespread. Few are showing up to get it. On November 7 in Paris, a public demonstration against them was held. As of November 5, less than 0.1% of the French population was inoculated despite a mass vaccination campaign. 90% of Greek health workers oppose them. Reports from Portugal say vaccine centers are nearly empty, and doctors and nurses won’t take them. Sources expect a “revolution” if they’re mandated.

A mid-October Der Spiegel article reported an “open rebellion” among general medical professionals and child physicians across Germany over dangerous Swine Flu vaccines. Dieter Ludwig, drug commission chairman of the German medical profession, said health authorities colluded with drug companies to promote them.

In Denmark, most public officials and healthcare workers won’t take them, citing the danger and saying H1N1 is no different from seasonal flu. Throughout Scandinavia, sentiment is the same with up to 75% opposition. In Sweden, as few as several thousand have gotten them. Across the continent also, in the Netherlands, Spain, Belgium and elsewhere. Also large segments of the US, Canadian and UK populations voice strong opposition. Open protests are occurring in Austria. In other countries as well. Millions know the toxicity and won’t touch them. Ukraine’s outbreak may be a counteroffensive to force them, first there, then globally.

Ukraine Outbreak Spreads

On November 6, headlined, “Pneumonic Plague Outbreak in China Follows Outbreak in Ukraine.” The town of Ziketan (population 10,000) reported two deaths and a dozen others infected. The “area inside a 17-mile radius” was quarantined to contain it. The “highly contagious disease, one of the most virulent and deadly diseases on earth, (is) usually fatal within 24 hours. It attacks the lungs and kills nearly everyone who catches it unless treated rapidly with antibiotics.”

On the same day, Belarus President Alexander Lukashenko called the panic over Swine Flu artificially created by drug companies. He urged people not to panic, and said authorities are monitoring the situation in neighboring Ukraine. Ten deaths were reported in the Minsk, “preceded by flu-like symptoms.”

Radio Free Europe/Radio Liberty disseminates US propaganda in 20 countries, including Russia, Ukraine, Iran, Iraq, and Afghanistan. On November 4, it headlined, “Swine Flu Fears Spread from Ukraine to Afghanistan,” then reported, true or false, incidences showing up in Iran, Belarus, Turkmenistan, Serbia, and other Balkan countries. “Afghanistan has declared a nationwide public health emergency and closed all educational institutes for three weeks.”

On November 2, the Chinese web site reported that authorities in a southeast Bulgarian district declared an A/H1N1 epidemic, according to local media accounts. The “sick rate” rose “to 200 per 10,000 people,” and in some towns is approaching epidemic levels. A later report said 210 per 10,000. Two deaths were reported, and Bulgaria’s chief health expert, Tencho Tenev, said “at least two million Bulgarians, or 30 percent of (the) population, could become infected with the flu virus over the coming months.”

On November 9, headlined, “Russia, Belarus and Bulgaria On The Verge Of A Flu Epidemic As Cases In Ukraine Near 1 Million.”

Same day Ukraine reports said 1,031,597 people are sick with flu-like symptoms, 52,742 have been hospitalized, and 174 people have died. On November 6, Russia’s Chief Health Official, Gennady Onishchenko, said most regions in the country “are on the verge of a flu epidemic.”

“Disturbing reports are beginning to surface in western Europe. In Austria, special army units based in Korneuburg (where Baxter’s facilities are located), have been conducting pandemic emergency exercises and quarantining patients in hospitals. Are they expecting something to happen?”

WHO “Whole-of-Society Pandemic Readiness Guidelines for Pandemic Preparedness and Response in the Non-Health Sectors”

Prepared in April 2009, the same month Swine Flu was reported in Mexico, it was revised in July and now easily accessed coincidentally with the Ukraine outbreak. Its aim is:

“to prepare the whole of society, beyond the health sector, for pandemic influenza….including public and private sector organizations and essential services.”

The says it “outlines how WHO will take over a country’s essential services, including water and sanitation; fuel and energy; food; health care; telecommunications; finance; law and order; education; and transportation under the pretext of a pandemic emergency.”

The “guidelines” state:

“National inter-ministerial pandemic preparedness committees should map out the central government’s roles, responsibilities, and chain of command and designate lead agencies,” answerable to the WHO that’s perhaps enforceable during a “health emergency.” It may work like this.

Vaccine law attorney, Alan G. Phillips says: “… underlying laws… allow states to mandate vaccines in an emergency… throw out exemptions, (and) impose quarantines and isolation outside of our homes.”

US laws are similar. They can mandate vaccinations and let states isolate and quarantine influenza victims if authorities call the disease infectious and life-threatening. Under the 2006 Public Readiness and Emergency Preparedness (PREP) Act, the HHS Secretary may declare any disease an epidemic or national emergency requiring mandatory vaccinations, quarantine, or other protective measures. It’s a short step to empowering WHO with authority over most nations in short order.

Its “guidelines” also want Defense Ministries to designate military assets to enforce vaccinations and quarantines under pandemic conditions. They also say: “Ministries of Justice should consider what legal processes could be suspended during the pandemic and make alternate plans to operate courts” while it continues.

According to “leaked (French) documents show that the Minister of Justice has ordered the suspension of the most basic rights, and people can be incarcerated for up to six months without having to appear before a judge in a pandemic emergency.”

Might America and other nations order similar measures under a “pandemic emergency,” real or bogus.

Internal 2006 IBM Document Reveals Advance Knowledge of a Planned Pandemic

Titled, “Services & Global Procurement pan IOT Europe, Pandemic Plan Overview,” it was distributed to upper-level management in France. It predicted a “100% chance (of a) planned (pandemic) occurring within the next 5 years,” covering quarantines and operational procedures to be taken after an official WTO announcement. This document suggests what many believe — that governments and the drug cartel, in collusion with the WTO, orchestrated the current crisis, choosing Ukraine as the lead target. The situation there deserves close monitoring because of what may happen globally.

Advance Pandemic Warning and Early Preparations

Replikins, Ltd. is a small Boston-based biotech firm that “develops and markets… predictive products and vaccines… based upon the company’s discovery of Replikins, a new group of peptides related to the rapid replication function in viral and other diseases (capable of) predicting the emergence of virulent strains of particular diseases.”

On April 7, 2008, a year before the reported Mexican H1N1 outbreak, it published a “FluForecast” stating the following:

Replikins, Ltd. has found that the Replikin Count of the H1N1 strain of influenza virus has recently increased to 7.6 (plus/minus 1.4), its highest level since the 1918 H1N1 pandemic…. A rising Replikin Count of a particular influenza strain, indicating the rapid replication of the virus, is an early warning which has been followed consistently by an outbreak of a specific strain. The current increase appears to be specific to H1N1; there was a concurrent 80% decline in the Replikin Count of (seasonal) H3N2, for instance.

The current H1N1 appears to be rapidly replicating simultaneously in the US and Austria…. However, the same virus replikin structures detected by FluForecast software in all three previous pandemics, namely 1918 H1N1, 1957 H2N2, and 1968 H3N2, as well as in H5N1 (Avian Flu), have not yet been detected in the currently evolving H1N1.

In an October 24, 2007 press release, the US Treasury Department discussed the “preliminary results of the industry-wide pandemic flu exercise…. More than 2,700 organizations registered to participate anonymously (which) began in September and ran for three weeks.” Involved were banks, insurance companies, securities firms and exchanges, and state and federal regulators.

“The exercise simulated a pandemic wave with a peak absenteeism rate of 49 percent…. President Bush directed Treasury in May 2006 to coordinate with the banking and finance sector to better prepare its response to a pandemic crisis.”

On December 12, 2007, FEMA Region I (for New England) hosted a joint federal-state exercise “to strengthen contingency plans for an influenza pandemic. Operation PANEX 07 is the first functional exercise of its type in this country designed to determine best practices for a coordinated multi-agency response to an outbreak.”

Participating agencies included the Department of Homeland Security (DHS), Health and Human Services (HHS), and Defense (DOD) “in partnership with their counterparts in the six New England states.”

On July 28, 2009, CNN reported that the Pentagon will “establish regional teams of military personnel to assist civilian authorities in the event of a significant outbreak of the H1N1 virus this fall, according to Defense Department officials…. The plan calls for military task forces to work in conjunction with (FEMA).”

Consider the implications. On October 23, Obama declared a H1N1 national emergency. The Pentagon will be in charge if conditions warrant it. Civil liberties may be suspended. Martial law may be declared. Mandatory toxic, dangerous vaccinations may be ordered, known to cause auto immune diseases ranging from annoying to debilitating to life-theatening. The situation in Ukraine bears watching. It may signal what’s soon heading everywhere.

Stephen Lendman wrote How Wall Street Fleeces America: Privatized Banking, Government Collusion and Class War. Contact him at: Also visit his blog site and listen to The Global Research News Hour on Mondays from 11AM-1PM US Central time for cutting-edge discussions with distinguished guests. All programs are archived for easy listening. Read other articles by Stephen.

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  1. Michael Kenny said on November 12th, 2009 at 11:35am #

    This is the most absurd rubbish I’ve ever read in my life! Since they’re mentioned as the source, I would guess that this is some sort of Mossad stunt just to see how gullible Americans are. Notice, in particular, that a great deal of supposed “information” is provided about Ukraine, but none of it from a Ukrainian source. That ought to make most people suspicious.

  2. Cathy said on November 12th, 2009 at 2:05pm #

    After looking for information on the H1N1, and at first discounting the “conspiracy” aspects, I have changed my mind. The idea of a military lab producing a virus, distributing that virus by whatever means, and then waiting for the results of the infection on the general populace, has happened already. In the 40’s through the 50’s. And bio-weapons are an effective means to control population, or a perceived enemy. And when I asked the CDC about this hemmoragic pneumonia coming to the US, I was given a vague “go look at this website” answer.
    My suggestion is still, do not take the H1N1 vaccine. It is not properly tested, and the makers are in it for profit, not protecting the population.

  3. onecansay said on November 12th, 2009 at 2:43pm #

    Well this article is more about the conditions being set to remove more civil liberties as was the case after 911. Should some of you remember just days after the “Patriot Act” was set in motion. HMMM….., any similarities regarding this action. Time will tell, but then again, time is absurd as you can get!

  4. B99 said on November 12th, 2009 at 4:22pm #

    More than 4000 are dead so far from H1N1 in the US this fall. You don’t want die a foolish death because you thought the vaccine was a conspiracy. If you are under 50 you really should get the shot because you don’t have the immunity that older people have. Of course, if you have asthma, or other immunity system compromises, you should discuss the matter with a trusted physician first.

  5. Heike said on November 13th, 2009 at 5:08pm #

    Lendeman is a master of spreading rubbish. He still owes readers an apology for spreading the Sue Arrigo fantasies — using as his source someone who called herself a CIA “two star general” and who claimed to have led an anti-Soviet partisan rebellion in “Czechoslovia” at the age of 15, or to have been a “sex slave” of the CIA since early childhood. Unfortunately, there are enough people around who are gullible consumers of his rubbish because they simply want to believe any lies that confirm their prejudices. Despite all the ranting Orwell-style about “mainstream media bad, DV good” the fact is that professional journalistic ethics demand that the veracity of stories be checked before they are printed. Sue’s latest escapade concerns an alleged New World Order (NWO) plot to murder “remote viewers” such as herself.

  6. Marc Schlee said on November 13th, 2009 at 9:45pm #

    The whole flu epidemic thing is so old and busted…



  7. Thomas said on November 23rd, 2009 at 5:43am #

    Just because we are not getting much information from the Ukraine doesn’t mean these ‘questionable’ things aren’t happening there. I’m living in a post-communist country where the media is more controlled, censored and biased than The US media. Recently the Ministry of Health here wanted to sue a webmaster and some doctors for publishing anti-H1N1 propaganda. Recently the Ukraine government tried to do the same thing to a Ukrainian blogger. My experience here is that people are less likely to buck the system – after these 20 years there’s still a sense of mind your own business, look after your own and ignorance is bliss – not everyone of course, but generally. Just now as I am writing this I got a call from my wife, her grandma had a H1N1 vaccination – today she had a stroke, typically she’s very fit – now I’m rushing to the hospital 🙁 hospitals in post-communist countries are not so nice – by – peace