Regression Depression

I’ve been feeling a little discouraged about the nation’s direction lately.

Maybe it’s just me.

Then again, maybe not. Everywhere I go, the sense of impending doom about what’s happening in (and to) our country is palpable. ‘Course, there’s hope: just look at how the country’s come together over the national healthcare issue. With fellowship like that, how long can it be before we’re all debating excitedly ‘round city-sized bonfires, our animated dialogue punctuated by periodic AK47 bursts designed to drive (hollow) points home?

You know we’re firmly ensconced in bizarro world when America’s rulers can prosecute illegal warfare, torture people, shred the Constitution, steal us blind, out secret agents, strong-arm massive corporate welfare and let an entire city drown, yet it’s not until affordable universal healthcare is (ostensibly) proposed that that is the moment herds of screaming, puerile, manipulated-to-the-max neo-brownshirts decide their beloved America — the one that’s only truly ever existed in John Wayne movies, by the way — is under socialistic siege, subsequently demonstrating their suddenly-uncontainable umbrage by throwing big-time, small-minded pissy fits at faux town hall meetings.

The brandishing of firearms outside such events is an especially nice touch. I can only guess what would have happened at an anti-war march had any of us toted an assault rifle. Prior to a U.S. government-sponsored Frankenfoods conference here in Sacramento six years back, our scared witless shitty council (“Remember Seattle!” they were warned constantly by cops and funds-bearing feds) hastily passed a raft of anti-constitutional local ordinances, one of which authorized the arrest of any persons in town (like, say, dissenters, maybe?) found with dirtballs in their pockets.

That’s what I said: dirtballs in people’s pockets.

Speaking of Congress, I’m now convinced a poll could show 137% of Americans strongly favoring something and yet if their desire didn’t happen to coincide with the wishes of Big Business (as, you know, it so often does), then once again out would pop the corporatocracy’s jump-puppets — also known in some circles as “representatives” and “senators” — to engage in so many contortions explaining why they couldn’t give us what we wanted they’d make Russian gymnasts proud. My suggestion? Replace them with Russian gymnasts. We still wouldn’t get what we wanted but at least the back flips would be more expertly done.

Impotence is another thing that’s got me, uh, down. (No, not that kind of impotence — not that I would even know what that’s like. Ever. OK, mostly. All right, then, fine, but at least I still have my memories. Er…what was I saying?) And not that you’ve ever asked yourself this question, but: Just what the hell are we supposed to do to change things?

Vote? (For those who deem this a viable solution, please see jump-puppets reference.)

Protest? Please don’t tell my longtime activist girlfriend this, but while she and I are out there standing on the street corner with seventeen other diehards holding signs and hooting and hollering against the latest outrage, I often feel like the powers-that-be are laughing at us, mocking us. Ignoring us. (Imagine how much worse it would be if they really were!) Actually, I’m not sure which is more deflating: Bush declaring us a focus group, or Obama proving it.

Another bummer is seeing the classic tactics of misdirection and scapegoating being employed to perfection. Sure, the great unwashed (and unemployed) expressed righteous anger when the corporatists in charge tanked the global economy only to be given no-strings-attached trillions more, but their nastiest vitriol has nonetheless been loosed on folks who are blameless (but far more accessible): those fortunate enough to still have jobs and/or houses, including relatives, neighbors and (former) friends.

I should know: I work for California’s teacher licensing agency (no doubt created by Marxist infiltrators who decided our state’s educators should be, well, educated; can you imagine?). Collectively, my fellow (unionized) government employees and I are now public enemy numero uno, personally responsible for everything from massive budget deficits to women with loose morals (actually, that’s one I wouldn’t mind taking credit for… if only I could remember how to go about it). We’re being furloughed three days monthly at fourteen percent less pay but that still isn’t enough: our pitchfork-bearing detractors want all of our heads, regardless the disastrous impact on public services.

That cackling you hear is from the über-corporatists who know full well that envy is a terrible thing to waste and thus play on this natural human frailty to convince millions that if their houses have burned down, the solution is not to go after who set them afire in the first place but demand that others run out and torch theirs, too.

Normally, I’d wrap things up here with some pithy suggestion, but I’m afraid I’m plain pithed off, uh, out. However, I will say, upon further reflection, there actually may be some merit to that whole setting-things-ablaze idea.

Especially if the flash point were centered, you know, somewhere on Wall Street.

Mark Drolette writes in Sacramento, California. He can be reached at: Read other articles by Mark, or visit Mark's website.

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  1. balkas b b said on September 11th, 2009 at 10:27am #

    With judges appointed by the ruling class [1-5mn people] interpreting constitution, a prez picked by the ruling class, and the constitution written by former ruling class and sharing the same ideas with modern rulers, i don’t think a prez can ever violate it.

    And no prez can be impeached by the people- only by the ruling class. In short, an US prez is elevated to infallibility. tnx

  2. United-Socialist-Front said on September 11th, 2009 at 12:49pm #




    I think that the Republican Party are the ones who actually rule USA. We have a 1 party fascist state really. But some people are wrong in their theory that both parties (Democrats and Republicans) are part of the one party state. The one party state is based on the exclusively ruling of The Republican Party, while the Democrats have never ruled USA.

    And even though The Democrats win elections every now and then, the real military and fascist power lies in The Republican Nazi Party. That’s where the root of all evil comes from in the USA. So it is fair to state that Obama and The Democratic Congress gets orders from The Republican Nazis

  3. United-Socialist-Front said on September 11th, 2009 at 12:50pm #



    Power Of Prayer – How powerful is it?
    The power of prayer should not be underestimated. James 5:16-18 declares, “…The prayer of a righteous man is powerful and effective. Elijah was a man just like us. He prayed earnestly that it would not rain, and it did not rain on the land for three and a half years. Again he prayed, and the heavens gave rain, and the earth produced its crops.” God most definitely listens to prayers, answers prayers, and moves in response to prayers.

    Jesus taught, “…I tell you the truth, if you have faith as small as a mustard seed, you can say to this mountain, ‘Move from here to there’ and it will move. Nothing will be impossible for you” (Matthew 17:20). 2 Corinthians 10:4-5 tells us, “The weapons we fight with are not the weapons of the world. On the contrary, they have divine power to demolish strongholds. We demolish arguments and every pretension that sets itself up against the knowledge of God, and we take captive every thought to make it obedient to Christ.” The Bible urges us, “And pray in the Spirit on all occasions with all kinds of prayers and requests. With this in mind, be alert and always keep on praying for all the saints” (Ephesians 6:18).

    Power Of Prayer – How do I tap into it?
    The power of prayer is not the result of the person praying. Rather, the power resides in the God who is being prayed to. 1 John 5:14-15 tells us, “This is the confidence we have in approaching God: that if we ask anything according to his will, he hears us. And if we know that he hears us – whatever we ask – we know that we have what we asked of him.” No matter the person praying, the passion behind the prayer, or the purpose of the prayer – God answers prayers that are in agreement with His will. His answers are not always yes, but are always in our best interest. When our desires line up with His will, we will come to understand that in time. When we pray passionately and purposefully, according to God’s will, God responds powerfully!

    We cannot access powerful prayer by using “magic formulas.” Our prayers being answered is not based on the eloquence of our prayers. We don’t have to use certain words or phrases to get God to answer our prayers. In fact, Jesus rebukes those who pray using repetitions, “And when you pray, do not keep on babbling like pagans, for they think they will be heard because of their many words. Do not be like them, for your Father knows what you need before you ask him” (Matthew 6:7-8). Prayer is communicating with God. All you have to do is ask God for His help. Psalm 107:28-30 reminds us, “Then they cried out to the LORD in their trouble, and he brought them out of their distress. He stilled the storm to a whisper; the waves of the sea were hushed. They were glad when it grew calm, and he guided them to their desired haven.” There is power in prayer!

    Power Of Prayer – For what kind of things should I pray?
    God’s help through the power of prayer is available for all kinds of requests and issues. Philippians 4:6-7 tells us, “Do not be anxious about anything, but in everything, by prayer and petition, with thanksgiving, present your requests to God. And the peace of God, which transcends all understanding, will guard your hearts and your minds in Christ Jesus.” If you need an example of a prayer, read Matthew 6:9-13. These verses are known as the Lord’s prayer. The Lord’s prayer is not a prayer we are supposed to memorize and simply recite to God. It is only an example of how to pray and the things that should go into a prayer – worship, trust in God, requests, confession, protection, etc. Pray for these kinds of things, but speak to God using your own words.

    The Word of God is full of accounts describing the power of prayer in various situations. The power of prayer has overcome enemies (Psalm 6:9-10), conquered death (2 Kings 4:3-36), brought healing (James 5:14-15), and defeated demons (Mark 9:29). God, through prayer, opens eyes, changes hearts, heals wounds, and grants wisdom (James 1:5). The power of prayer should never be underestimated because it draws on the glory and might of the infinitely powerful God of the universe! Daniel 4:35 proclaims, “All the peoples of the earth are regarded as nothing. He does as he pleases with the powers of heaven and the peoples of the earth. No one can hold back his hand or say to him: ‘What have you done?'”

  4. Don Hawkins said on September 11th, 2009 at 4:48pm #

    It was the best of times, it was the worst of times, it was the age of wisdom, it was the age of foolishness, it was the epoch of belief, it was the epoch of incredulity, it was the season of Light, it was the season of Darkness, it was the spring of hope, it was the winter of despair, we had everything before us, we had nothing before us, we were all going direct to heaven, we were all going direct the other way.

    It was just another day on planet Earth then again it wasn’t. A very large ship was parking on the dark side of the moon and the ship came from a Galaxy far far away from a little group known as The Grand Council of the Universe. This was not the first time they made the journey to a planet with life. There reason for being was to protect life in the Universe. Today on the ship was about 5% of the population of the Earth all the so called leaders, masters of the thousands of confident religions, ideologies, and economic doctrines every destroyer of civilization, every king every corrupt politician, every “superstar”, every “supreme leader”, most of the news media and all the talking heads. Oh there was one big difference about these Earthlings they were not human but only made to look human and were all from the same group, The Grand Council of the Universe and were about to take the place of all those so called leaders, masters on planet Earth. You see it was the job of the Grand Council to protect life in the Universe and Earth was at the crossroads so to speak. All the Aliens were trained in many subjects. Just a few were Knowledge the real thing not illusion the truth, Imagination, hard work and teaching others to work together when at the crossroads. Well a rather large beam was activated and before you could say profit the change had taken place. Needless to say the so called leaders, masters from Earth who were now on the ship were a bit disoriented to say the least. A cool and calm voice then told them to relax and where they were going there were no tax’s. This seemed to calm them down. The voice then told them that because of there arrogance and greed and lack of humanity they were now on the good ship of the Grand Council of the Universe and about to take a trip to a Galaxy far far away and a planet somewhat like Earth. The voice then told them that there thinking or lack of thinking on Earth was going to leave there planet and the kid’s and there kid’s a ruined Earth and that is why you are now on our ship. The voice then told them that they would not need the suits and designer dresses they were wearing as the planet they were going to was like the World they were going to leave there kid’s and there kid’s rather warm and at one time had many life forms but now only a few left and an ice free World. fresh water a little if you look and food some. The voice then told them in front of them were clothes made of native skins from the planet they were going to and you will probably need the spear that is also provided and practice makes perfect. The voice then told them it would probably take thirty years of hard work on there Earth to clean up the mess that had been made and they could return back to there home planet at that time with hopefully a new way of thinking. With that the ship at light speed headed to a Galaxy far far away.

    On Earth the new leaders from the Grand Council of the Universe didn’t waste much time as they knew the kid’s and there kid’s were out of time. In every Country on the third planet from the Sun in the outer arm of Milky Way Galaxy all the new leaders were giving the same speech. It started something like this, “My fellow human’s we are all in deep do do and it is time to start working together”. “What we need to do will not be easy but if we work together and stay strong we can get through this and make it to the other side”.

  5. Alan Bannacheck said on September 12th, 2009 at 12:38am #


    Thanks for the comic relief. You are not the only one who feels the constant dread that sticks to the atmosphere like humidity. Sometimes the feeling is so intense, I have to remind myself to remember to breathe. The problem is it’s hopeless. Both sides (Republican & Democrat) are held hostage by the same puppeter. The Puppet Master also owns many of the media outlets that are impossible to avoid and uses those channels to send as many contradicting messages as possible. The purpose is to cause a cognitive dissonance overload (Or maybe The Puppet master is a philosopher with multiple personalities?).

    It pangs me to admit that as a nation we have become so complacent. I imagine the economy will continue to worsen. Shortages of the essential will ensue. Corporations will continue their assault of the human pysche’ by creating new needs with advertising campaigns that brainwash people. The war will never end, unless we go completely bankrupt(I highly doubt we have been solvent for the last decade myself).

    I guess my only hope is reading articles such as these and responding to them hitherto. I figure that if someone reads your article and then reads my somewhat crafted insight, they will realize that they are indeed thinking with a rational narrative, and are not as alone as they think.

    Alan Bannacheck,
    Minneapolis, Minnesota

  6. Don Hawkins said on September 12th, 2009 at 5:10am #

    E&E News

    President Obama will speak on global warming later this month during a special U.N. summit in New York where world leaders will try to jump-start talks on a deal that succeeds the Kyoto Protocol.
    White House spokesman Robert Gibbs today confirmed Obama’s role in the Sept. 22 event that comes on the eve of general debate in the 64th session of the U.N. General Assembly.
    U.N. Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon has called presidents and prime ministers together for the climate meeting in an attempt to “mobilize the political will and vision needed to reach an ambitious agreed outcome based on science at the U.N. climate talks in Copenhagen.”
    Obama’s role in the U.N. session is sure to spark widespread international attention, especially after eight years of resistance to significant steps on climate change under former President George W. Bush’s administration.
    Obama is expected to appear alongside a handful of other government leaders and climate activists during a morning session that opens the U.N. climate meeting.

    Get ready as the bullshit the crazy talk from the Capitalists will be in it’s full glory very soon.

  7. Don Hawkins said on September 12th, 2009 at 5:29am #

    WASHINGTON — The Obama administration’s senior negotiator on global warming warned Thursday that developed and developing nations remained deeply divided in talks on reducing greenhouse gases and that time was running out before United Nations treaty negotiations in December.

    The negotiator, Todd Stern, the State Department special envoy on the issue, told a Congressional panel that it was critical that Congress act on proposed energy and global warming legislation to demonstrate the nation’s willingness to play its part in reducing harmful emissions.

    “Let me say bluntly that the tenor of negotiations in the formal U.N. track has been difficult,” Mr. Stern told the House Select Committee for Energy Independence and Global Warming. “Developing countries tend to see a problem not of their own making that they are being asked to fix in ways which, they fear, could stifle their ability to lift their standards of living.”

    “Developed countries,” he said, “tend to see an unforgiving problem with potentially grave and irreversible consequences and that cannot be solved without the full participation of developing countries, particularly China and the other emerging market economies.”

    Mr. Stern said China, India, Brazil and other rapidly industrializing countries were taking significant unilateral steps to slow the growth of emissions of carbon dioxide and other gases that contribute to the warming of the planet. He said their efforts in some cases outstripped those of the United States and some other advanced economies.

    “It is critical that the Senate now do its part to move this process forward in a timely manner,” Mr. Stern said. “Nothing the United States can do is more important for the international negotiation process than passing robust, comprehensive clean energy legislation as soon as possible.” NYT

    Worried about the economy’s are they well the fate of the human race and the greatest show on Earth starting in twenty years in a very big way as it has already started for many already. It’s a hoax sorry wrong number the hoax is still so called leaders and second grade level thinking.

    Maybe it’s just me.

  8. Don Hawkins said on September 12th, 2009 at 5:42am #

    You know we’re firmly ensconced in bizarro world when America’s rulers can prosecute illegal warfare, torture people, shred the Constitution, steal us blind, out secret agents, strong-arm massive corporate welfare and let an entire city drown, yet it’s not until affordable universal healthcare is (ostensibly) proposed that that is the moment herds of screaming, puerile, manipulated-to-the-max neo-brownshirts decide their beloved America — the one that’s only truly ever existed in John Wayne movies, by the way — is under socialistic siege, subsequently demonstrating their suddenly-uncontainable umbrage by throwing big-time, small-minded pissy fits at faux town hall meetings. Mark

    Pissy fits from neo-brownshirts and more on the way and they seem like such nice people knowledgeable with the wisdom of the ancients well dressed and look how well they work together. We sure have come along way in bizarro world.

  9. Don Hawkins said on September 12th, 2009 at 8:40am #

    The tea party’s are happening in DC today at the Capital. Did they get a permit? Who are these people who organized this well they call themselves freedom work’s. Clever little people. Fox News or Rupert the man and Steve Forbes and think a little bigger like big Parma and big coal, big oil, big gas, big manufacturing. These people want to keep the status quo as we all go down the drain in not such slow motion. The people who are now at this get together have been brainwashed into believing these people care about them and there children you know there future. These big people care about money and power and going out in style so that’s what they call it while bullshiting as many people as they can on the way out. The very people at this get together the only thing they will get is to watch the big people go out in style as they go down the drain. Next of course is cap and trade and sure more brainwashing. So far they seem to be stopping an progress as they laugh at the very people who think they are so great. Clever little people and ugly. I am looking at the signs right now on TV like say no to Socialism or stop the spending no new tax’s. My favorite is freedom isn’t free. I guess later today Glenn Beck and Hannity will be running around on the stage and someone with a big white hat singing God bless America and if the truth be known these very people should say thank you thank you we love you very very much and your all total idiot’s that we have just bullshited to the max thank you very much.

  10. Annie Ladysmith said on September 12th, 2009 at 8:50am #

    There should be a crap party in DC one day at the Capital with a follow up another day at the white house. People should take their most recent crap and after chanting 3 times, “WHAT ARE WE GETTING, CRAP. WHAT ARE WE GIVING, CRAP!, all the crap should be thrown at the Capital and then the white house. If you don’t want to use your own crap your dogs crap will do fine.

  11. balkas b b said on September 12th, 2009 at 9:03am #

    hi don, wld u please join me in prayer to god, gods, devil, or devils to make us real bad; like the best terrorists ever made by gods/devils.
    yes, don, devils also have a say how the earthlings shld be treated or how much brains they get.

    By being best terrorists we cld cut all tv cables; put invisible stinkers in movie houses; protect all trees destined for pulp and thus to paper and all products made of paper.
    We can wash our bums with cloth and holy water; thus no more baptism.
    Ok! This will do for starters. tnx for any cooperation or suggestion!

  12. United-Socialist-Front said on September 12th, 2009 at 1:14pm #

    Damn Annie, i dont like telling people what to do, but i don’t think that insults and offenses against the US government will really change the way US government is (A plutocracy). We need a serious plan.

    Oppressed poor americans need to unite into a United Front.


  13. balkas b b said on September 12th, 2009 at 3:16pm #

    i found out that praying to an [dumb or wise] owl, wise or dumb god/devil duopoly, brings ab. the same result: nichevo, nichts, nada, naught, nishta!
    Do not believe; perceive[looksee] Remember that jesus had said or s’mbody put it in his mouth: Ye shall always have poor anongst u. And over which utterance rich people rejoice!
    According to this mad judean/aramean/edomite/amonite, eterne poverty is OK with his/her god! Some god??? tnx

  14. Mulga Mumblebrain said on September 12th, 2009 at 8:57pm #

    Don, after watching the Fox/News inspired ‘revolt of the morons’ from afar, I think that one Biblical quote in particular ought to be amended. A new message from the All High (yes, I do mean Rupert, Lord of the Corpse Flies). ‘The meek shall inherit nothing. The cretinous shall inherit the earth’. A fatal weakness of ‘democracy’ , even the pseudo-pseudo-democracy of the USA, one well exploited by the Masters, is that everyone gets a vote. Therefore, when it comes to deciding the fate of humanity (and disregarding the other flaws of capitalist democracy, too numerous to mention)a Robert Oppenheimer gets the same vote as a Glenn Beck devotee, or a Rush Limbaugh ‘ditto-head’. All the rubbish about ‘democratic equality’ is tosh, because the plutocrats despise equality in every other field, so here they are certainly merely disguising their real interest. And that is that they see the ignorance, stupidity and indoctrination of the ‘tea-party’ numb-skulls, endlessly brainwashed by the totally Rightwing mainstream media, as their first line of defence. It saves the bullets for the restless ‘niggers’ and ‘Injuns’ spread across the peripheries of Empire .
    This is, of course, an immensely wasteful and dangerous way to run a country, let alone a global empire. Relying on ignorance and stupidity requires abandoning huge swathes of society to mediocrity and pointlessness. However, as this tremendously advantages the hereditary elite in garnering the best educations and best paying employment, the dumbing-down of society as a whole is seen as doubly advantageous for the elite.
    The Chinese, alas, being not inclined to sacrifice any talent, and being run by technocrats, advanced through talent and merit, not PR suitability, Zionist patronage or personal wealth, and governing pragmatically and rationally, not to repay their paymasters, and not dependent on periodic election and the monstrous, interminable, follies of lying, smearing, misrepresenting, stoking prejudice and fear that are election campaigns, are advancing rapidly. The day of Uncle Sam’s eclipse hurries near.Contrary to Churchill, ‘democracy’ is not necessarily the least worst solution. Benign autocracy, following utilitarian principles, unbeholden to corrupt elites and where a political career is possible for those so inclined, in the context of a single party (the actual situation in the US, but denied for appearances’ sake)is attracting more attention from poor countries, particularly where their ‘democracy’ has been subverted by years of Yankee interference and subversion designed to ensure that the most Rightwing, pro-American party (known as the ‘democratic forces’ by Orwellian convention)is always successful. If the Chinese at some time restore greater equality, as in Mao’s day, and keep a foot on the throat of the capitalist class, keeping them from usurping state power, you’d have a society I’d be happy to live in. And, seeing as the Chinese leadership can actually read scientific papers and comprehend the contents, unlike so many US politicians and media pathocrats, they are turning China’s immense industrial, scientific and technological establishment to the task of de-carbonising industry, while the vested economic interests of the fossil-fuel industry sabotage every effort in the US. In fact I think China is our last, slim, hope to avoid catastrophic anthropogenic climate change. We shall see.

  15. United-Socialist-Front said on September 13th, 2009 at 7:44am #


    Mulga and Don: You know something? Most people in most countries but specifically in the U.S.A who are worried about politics, wether they are Tea Party protestors, or leftists, are beating the bullets economically, feel insecure, anxious and worried about their future. And indeed, the capitalist world system will not collapse today or in the close near future (Bad news).

    Which means that the capitalist system will still be alive and providing a lot of wealth for an upper and middle class. (2 right-wing classes which benefit from capitalism).

    In the USA even a Mdonalds worker is labeled as a middle-class. But the real middle-class are the people who own small businesses or have high wages. But the middle-class doesn’t have any economic limitations and problems. And that’s why they are not worried.

    Most people in the whole world, even in rich countries are part of the poor class, not the middle and upper class. The upper and middle classes are very small in percentage compared to the lower-class.

    But USA is a suis generis case. In USA the majority of people who are lower class citizens still vote for capitalist political parties. Even though the capitalist political parties (Democrats and Republicans) only benefit the middle and upper class.

    And from my own observations, the people in America who are into Tea Party protests, conspiracy-theory websites, into leftist parties, and progressive movements are americans, latinos, blacks etc. who are worried about their economic present and future. But this percentage of americans is still very small compared to the great majority of americans who are not worried about their economic present and future.

    So what we need in USA is a great charismatic leader like Hugo Chavez who can unite into a one single pole, the americans from different ideologies who are worried about their economic present and future.


  16. balkas b b said on September 13th, 2009 at 9:46am #

    Either-Or linguistic structure seldom fits reality. To wit: Either a charismatic leader or we fail {the failure appears tacitly posited}.
    I suggest we think of multiple choices regarding a [charismatic or otherwise] leader.
    One choice wld be for people to also lead the leader [ship] and in turn be advised and led by the leader.
    Another choice wld be not so much whether the leader is deary, but, more importantly, to what degree he suppports basic rights.
    How sane the leader is, appears another choice.
    in short, we need to learn how to become more interdependent and not with the ruling class, since it had by action spurned interdependence with lower classes while at the same time [as bail out clearly proves] reserved for own class fierce interdependence; i.e., the cooks that spoiled the broth cook another broth.
    The only way lower classes can put any resistance to the despotic class, is to become fiercely interdependent.
    Or, to put even more pythily, COSA NOSTRA TWO [us] MUST FACE COSA NOSTRA ONE [uncle].
    lower classs’ cosas mias will never do and never have!

  17. Deadbeat said on September 13th, 2009 at 2:58pm #

    U-S-F writes…
    So what we need in USA is a great charismatic leader like Hugo Chavez who can unite into a one single pole, the americans from different ideologies who are worried about their economic present and future.

    Such an idea and suggestion is a fatal mistake. Chavez became popular because the condition were ripe for it and it took bold action that inspired people. For there to be a Chavez the people themselves have to have some degree of solidarity among the population so that they can get behind him. There is no such level of solidariy in the U.S. today. That has to be constructed first. “Leaders” emerge from that process not the other way around.

    Because in the U.S. people are waiting for charismatic leaders, they can be easily fooled by false leaders like Obama, Chomsky, Cornel West, Al Sharpton, Ron Paul, etc.

    People need to be inspired by ideas like justice, fairness, and equality. But most of all people need to find solidarity and work for example to protect each other. Again I point to the woman in the You-Tube video calling for a debt revolt. This is the kind of idea that can build solidarity and cross ideological boundaries. The woman in the video has become a defacto “leader” by her being fed up enough to take action. That is how leaders emerge. No charimsa just ordinary people push to the edge where they finally push back.

  18. Alan Bannacheck said on September 13th, 2009 at 6:07pm #

    It’s still hopeless. Americans need only to look at the four noble truths to understand what is going on

    Truth One: Life is Suffering.
    Truth Two: In order to get past such a suffeing, one must give up their desire for materialism.

    It’s pretty simple to understand. In America we have been sold “The American Dream.” It states that any American can advance up the economic status ladder with a little bit of hard work. This untrue. A study released stated that it takes nine generations to move up just a notch. In reality we live in a caste system.

    So to find happiness, one must accept this unchangeable. Stop being so infatuted with cell phones, laptops, cars, clothes, designer labels, and enoy what you have. It’s the only way to meet nirvana.

  19. Crispus Attucks said on September 13th, 2009 at 10:30pm #


    Sooo, I gather that the point of this forum is to weed out the current US government for a better tomorrow for all? So far, all of your various points lead back to Marx, Hegel, Nietzsche, Ricardo, Mao and a continuum of various rants and such. Is it that bad? Is the Russian ballet, utopia in the making? Das Kapital…a better planet…aliens are welcome too.

    Please explain the small minds of such a cretan origin, town halls and…the uninformed masses of simplistic commoners that some so distain. Take Epimenides, compare him to the relativst and the ongoing dilemma within Marxism, that all theories are products of their class background. Follow the logic that all cretans are liars…being told this by a Cretan…thus, this comparison is inappropriate in as; perhaps this time the cretan was telling the truth. So much for the relativist, as theory has not hath an absolute.

    Capitalism…not a political system, not perfection; like ideas without dimension…Nietzsche follows. Can you regulate chaos? Post modernists think so, socialists think so, Marxists think so, dictators think so… the small minded wondering aimless and without the guiding Hegel hand of man’s matrix of evolutionary puree, do not think so.

    The beat goes on…no time to lose. As James Fenimore Cooper stated in a young republic, that the United States Congress is the new aristocracy. Since the 1840’s this notion has played itself out in the social and economic growth of the republic; not the Platonic outlay to tyranny from relative freedom of the individual.

    The individual, the collective…so many choices, so little time. Self interest is man, the catolyst for his survival… even the down trodden
    merge with self interest. Dialectic in a transcidental expressive; Kant do it, please leave the deflection that all beliefs are relative to its revelations. Even science, including eco science, is still reflective of the values and predjices of the scientists themselves.

    All paths lead to the individual, one or five, limited to the individual and the group. What empirical evidence excludes the individual from the group? Folks, take a deep breath…dissidents or not…relax with the notion that the conflict between individualists and collectivists have been a key component to the fabric of our country. Exclude the cretans…and what remains…our objectivity…

  20. John Little said on September 14th, 2009 at 12:33am #


    The government and big business have hijacked the country and held it hostage for a very long time. We have absolutely no say whatsoever in what goes on.

    But that doesn’t have to be the only answer. We can fight back, but we need numbers and we need strength. Right now there’s no one and nothing guiding any viable answer to corporatocracy. The first step is to organize, and I see absolutely nothing viable in that regard right now, as you have well testified.

  21. United-Socialist-Front said on September 14th, 2009 at 8:33am #

    Deadbeat: Let’s be clear, and let’s call bread bread, and wine wine. Let’s label things and people by their behaviour and actions. As capitalist and as libertarian as Ron Paul is, at least he is not a liar, and a puppet like Obama. And the same goes for Noam Chomsky !!

    You are very wrong in generalizing and comparing Noam Chomsky among the evil puppets of America (Clintons, Obama, Palin, Bush).

    I mean let’s be honest, you have to get out of that group of liars Ron Paul, Noam Chomsky and even David Duke is not a liar like Obama and our corporate mainstream puppets who rule America are.


  22. United-Socialist-Front said on September 14th, 2009 at 8:37am #

    Deadbeat said on September 13th, 2009 at 2:58pm

    Deadbeat: I agree with you !! that’s how leaders emerge, by will to action, by physical-strength to take action. Not just theoretical strength writting stuff on bloggers, but by physical bodily will and strength to do real political activism.


  23. United-Socialist-Front said on September 14th, 2009 at 8:45am #



    Right-wing march in Washington against Obama health care plan
    14 September 2009

    On Saturday, right-wing groups organized a demonstration in Washington to denounce the Obama administration, with particular focus on the proposed health care overhaul outlined in the president’s speech before Congress on Wednesday.

    The march, organized by former Republican House Majority Leader Dick Armey’s group, FreedomWorks, attracted an extremely confused social layer, combining demands for lower taxes and less government spending with fanatical anti-abortion and anti-immigrant politics. Reflecting views promoted by fascistic talk show commentators, many denounced Obama for attempting to introduce “socialism” in America, while others likened him to Hitler and questioned his status as a US citizen.

    The immediate political motive of the organizers was to denounce what they called “ObamaCare,” which the FreedomWorks web site characterizes as a “government takeover of health care.” They have focused particular attention on the so-called “public option,” a proposal that would establish a very limited government-run insurance plan to compete with private insurers in a revamped health care market.

    In his speech Wednesday, Obama made clear that he was prepared to drop the “public option” in order to appease the insurance industry, Republican critics of his health care plan, and “moderate” Democrats who have balked at even this token role for the government in the health care market.

    Aside from Armey, the rally was addressed by Republican Congressman Michael Pence of Indiana and Republican Senator Jim DeMint of South Carolina, among others.

    Attendance was not very large. According to media reports, those marching numbered between 15,000 and 30,000. The protest was far smaller than the massive anti-war demonstrations that preceded the invasion of Iraq in February of 2003, but this weekend’s demonstration has been given vastly disproportionate coverage in the US media, particularly on cable television. It hardly represents a mass popular uprising, as claimed by the organizers and media promoters.

    Nevertheless, the mobilization does raise the danger of the growth of extreme right-wing forces. This danger does not stem from the existence today of a mass base for right-wing and fascistic politics in the United States. In fact, the majority of the population supports universal health care, increased taxes on the rich, and other egalitarian social policies.

    Rather, the danger arises fundamentally from the subordination of the working class to the Democratic Party and the Obama administration, and thereby to the US ruling class. The political disenfranchisement of the working class is maintained through the political monopoly exercised by two right-wing parties of big business.

    Whatever the denunciations of a “government takeover of health care,” Obama’s plan represents an attempt to scale back government spending and lower corporate health care expenses.

    As Obama declared in his speech on Wednesday, “Our health care problem is our deficit problem.” His speech has shifted discussion within the political establishment even more directly to finding new ways to cut costs. His proposal, requiring individuals to purchase bare-bones coverage from private insurers, has as its ultimate aim the phasing out of employer-provided health care—saving corporations billions—and substantially reducing the costs of Medicare and Medicaid.

    There is entirely legitimate anxiety among broad sections of the population over the future of health care. Senior citizens and others are justly worried that the cost-cutting will lead to cuts in services, and Obama’s overhaul as a whole will lead to a vast expansion in the power of the insurance industry over the US health care system.

    However, this popular opposition finds no expression within any section of the political establishment or either of the two parties. The subordination of the working class to Obama and the Democrats blocks the development of a progressive alternative. The Republican right seeks to make gains by exploiting the political vacuum—as far as the broad masses can see—on the left.

    Here the role of the pseudo-progressive and liberal middle-class organizations is critical. By backing Obama and covering up for his right-wing policies, they work to prevent any organized expression of the interests and concerns of the masses of working people. This is true in relation to domestic policies—the health care anti-reform, the assault on auto workers, the bailout of Wall Street, the continuation of Bush’s police state measures—as well as foreign policy.

    These groups oppose any genuine struggle against the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq. Some of them are only now planning to stage “anti-war” demonstrations in order to disorient and derail growing anti-war sentiment. For the most part, they offer prescriptions for a more effective imperialist strategy in Central Asia.

    These organizations and their mouthpieces—such as the Nation magazine—are obsessed with identity and life-style issues, which reflect the concerns of the more privileged and complacent social layers they represent. They are indifferent to the social concerns—jobs, wages, living standards, home foreclosures, etc.—that drive the broad masses of the people, who are being devastated by the crisis and the policies of the Obama administration.

    A recent article published in the Nation (“A Method to Their Madness”) discusses the politics of the right-wing forces and declares that they gain strength when there is an “absence of leadership.” In a revealing exposure, the article notes that “less than a third of the country believes Obama has clearly explained his plans for health care reform… According to a CNN poll, only one in five believes he or she will be better off after health care reform has passed, and 40 percent say they are confused by the proposals.”

    The article goes on to urge Obama to provide this “leadership” by making a case for the “public option.” It once again promotes the lie that the purpose of the health care overhaul is to provide “universal healthcare.”

    In reality, the confusion and concern over the health care overhaul is a response to the duplicity of the Obama administration, which attempts to cloak a health care counter-revolution in the guise of social reform. Outfits like the Nation work consciously to perpetuate this fraud. In the coming elections, they will no doubt once again point to the prospect of Republican gains as an argument for supporting the Democratic Party.

    Oblivious to the historical and political implications of the current crisis, they are incapable of understanding the logic of their own policies. At some point, a section of the far-right elements that staged the demonstration on Saturday will begin to make a populist appeal to broader social concerns. This will raise the specter of a genuine fascist movement.

    The critical question for workers and youth is to grasp the reactionary nature of the politics of these middle-class groups, reject their false perspective, and take up the fight for a break with the Democrats and the development of a struggle against the Obama administration based on the political independence of the working class and a socialist and internationalist program. As workers enter into struggle against mass unemployment, poverty and war, there will be growing popular support for such a perspective.

    Joe Kishore and Barry Grey

  24. bozh said on September 14th, 2009 at 10:15am #

    your thinking on a leader[ship] appears akin to mine. It is not an either-or proposition; it’s more of an circular happening, at least in venezuella: people influence leaders; leaders in turn influence/persuade people.
    I further stress that we need to get away from saviorism.
    We’ve had yahweh, jesus, mohammed, ghandy, king, lenin, obama, chomsky, et al.
    But are in bigger mess than ever? Look at india! they had their ghandi but untouchables are still there. We’ve had yahweh and his followers have undergone three shoahs! Is the fourth far behind?
    We’ve had mohammed but muslim women are still a chattel. And muslims are still ruled by despots of all kind; become rich while not working.
    more cld be said. tnx

  25. b99 said on September 14th, 2009 at 10:38am #

    USF – What’s your recipe for getting America from here to there. From getting it out of the degraded condition it is in to a communist society of equals?

  26. Mulga Mumblebrain said on September 15th, 2009 at 2:27am #

    crispus, is not the difference between collectivists and individualists nothing but the difference between those who wish individual freedom for ALL individuals, the collectivists, and those who believe in full individual rights, but only for themselves and those that they approve of, usually those most like themselves? I think it is as simple as that. Whether you fear and despise others, or accept and value them.