“Holocaust Fundamentalism” and the War on Dissent

Two British Writers Languish in Obscurity in a California Jail. Their Crime? Satire, Mockery and Disbelief.

An international court battle involving government-imposed restrictions on political expression has ensnared two right-leaning British intellectuals.

Writers Simon Sheppard and Stephen Whittle stand convicted of violating modern British laws against “stirring up racial and religious hatred” for publishing, among other things, an allegedly anti-Semitic comic book called “Tales of the Holohoax” and a pamphlet called “Don’t Be Sheeple”.

As the irrepressible creators of a pugnacious web site called Heretical…com, Shepard and Whittle (who writes under the pen name, ‘Luke O’Farrell’) have published scores of taboo-busing manifestos, cultural critiques and satires, as well as numerous scientific papers and ‘general interest’ material. But it all came to a crashing end last year under the boot heel of a British court. What’s worse, their prickly commentary was about to earn them a multi-year stint in an English jail.

Outraged at what they consider politically based persecution, the two dissenters chose instead to seek political asylum in America. Then the US Dept. of Homeland Security stepped in.

The most recent chapter of their political odyssey began on July 14, 2008, when Sheppard and Whittle (dubbed the ‘Heretical Two’) delivered themselves to US authorities at Los Angeles International Airport upon their arrival from Europe. But instead of sanctuary they received a one-way ticket to the Santa Ana jail; this, despite the fact that they entered the US legally and the contents of their published works violate no US law. In fact, the server headquarters of their web site, Heretical.com, is located in California. Despite this, an American judge presiding over their asylum case has refused to grant them bail.

Sheppard and Whittle remain in police custody under the watchful eye of the US Dept. of Homeland Security.

‘News Blackout’ Spells Invisibility

Meanwhile, the mainstream media has shown persistent indifference to this noteworthy First Amendment brawl, even though the case’s legal implications are newsworthy, perplexing and perhaps even precedent setting,

But why would the mainstream media play a passively hostile role towards these Free Speech activists? Why? Because the Heretical Two qualify as exemplars of Britain’s ‘far right’, a movement that’s antagonistic towards many modern conventions concerning race, sexuality, feminism, third world immigration and Israel’s elevated status in the West.

Indeed, the political agenda of Europe’s far right generally stands in direct opposition to the multi-cultural transformation of Europe and North America that’s been in progress for the past half century. Many rightists contend that influential jurists and financiers, as well as major players in news, publishing and entertainment have advanced these cultural changes, often covertly. With this in mind, the mystery behind the mainstream media’s news blackout regarding the Heretical Two becomes a lot easier to understand.

Bruce Leichty, Sheppard and Whittle’s former immigration attorney, had this to say about the bizarre British edict that prompted the Heretical Two to take flight: “Under this novel application of [British] law, American citizens, or indeed citizens of any nation, are rendered subject to arrest and prosecution by the British authorities if anything they post on the world wide web is deemed in breach of British laws governing the discussion of race and religion.” These extra-national laws pose a direct challenge to America’s First Amendment rights. Similar laws are already in place throughout parts of Europe with more expected via the EU.

Meanwhile, Sheppard and Whittle languish in an American jail, unseen and unknown. This undermines their quest for freedom since publicity is vital to raising funds to sustain their legal battle. But the Heretical Two are not alone. In Europe, other dissidents are being targeted. Still others, like Holocaust skeptics Ernst Zundel and Germar Rudolf, remain behind bars.

One recent target, a conservative Catholic Bishop named Richard Williamson has come under intense pressure for remarks he made about the official Holocaust story on Swedish TV. This is how it’s playing out in the mainstream news:

Jews Tell Vatican: Holocaust Denial is a Crime

By Philip Pullella (2/9/09)

VATICAN CITY (Reuters) – World Jewish leaders told Vatican officials that denying the Holocaust was “not an opinion but a crime” when they met on Monday to discuss a bishop they accuse of being anti-Semitic.

The meetings, the first since the controversy over Bishop Richard Williamson, who denies the extent of the Holocaust, began last month, took place three days before Pope Benedict is due to address a group of American Jewish leaders.

Williamson told Swedish television in an interview broadcast in January: “I believe there were no gas chambers.” He said no more than 300,000 Jews perished in Nazi concentration camps, rather than the 6 million accepted by most historians.

“Today we strongly reaffirmed that the denial of the Shoah is not an opinion, but a crime,” said Richard Prasquier, president of the French Jewish umbrella organization CRIF, using the Hebrew word for Holocaust.

The headline and narrative are fairly typical of the news-bites that frame this unique kind of dispute. In this instance, the reader finds the accused Bishop alone, stigmatized and denounced by numerous authoritative sources and even a court. The Jewish perspective is given overwhelming prominence. Nowhere in the article are there any defenders of Williamson’s position. The vital issues of Free Speech and political liberty are altogether absent. Case closed.

In most any other context, the attempt by government to impose criminal penalties for mere utterances would be questioned–if not deplored–in the article itself. But arguments involving the Holocaust and Jewish sensitivities are treated in the mainstream media with unique partisanship.

The London Times (Online edition, 2/9/09) proclaims:

British Diplomat Arrested Over “Anti-Semitic’ Rant

“Allegations that a senior British diplomat launched into an anti-Semitic rant in a London gym while watching TV footage from Gaza will not upset the “treadmill of diplomacy”, the Israeli Ambassador to London said today.

In a curiously tongue-in-cheek response to a case that has provoked concern within the Jewish community in Britain, Ron Prosor added that the tirade did not reflect “the health and fitness of our relations”.

The diplomat, 47-year-old Rowan Laxton, allegedly shouted “f***ing Israelis, f***ing Jews” while watching television reports of the Israeli attack on Gaza last month.

He is also alleged to have said that Israeli soldiers should be “wiped off the face of the Earth” during the rant at the London Business School gym near Regents Park on January 27. The tirade reportedly continued even after other gym users asked him to stop.

After a complaint from a member of the public, Mr. Laxton was arrested for inciting religious hatred – which can carry a seven-year prison term – and bailed to reappear at a central London police station at the end of March.”

When the dust settles, the curious reader is left with this unanswered question: What’s worse: using the F-word in the same sentence as the word ‘Jew’?—or a military invasion upon a civilian population by a nuclear-ready, foreign power? The London Times’ coverage suggests that it’s the offensive language rather than the slaughter of civilians that is the greater sin. On this vital question, the writers in the editorial section at the same newspaper are silent.

Meanwhile, Mr. Laxton is facing serious jail time for his verbal outburst.

Ethnic ‘Overrepresentation’: So What?

Have Big Media and Big Government joined forces to advance an ethnic agenda? It’s looking that way. Writing in the LA times (12/19/08) columnist Joel Stein adds humor and realism to the stunning reality of ethnic monopoly in Big Media/Entertainment. He writes:

How deeply Jewish is Hollywood? When the studio chiefs took out a full-page ad in the Los Angeles Times a few weeks ago to demand that the Screen Actors Guild settle its contract, the open letter was signed by: News Corp. President Peter Chernin (Jewish), Paramount Pictures Chairman Brad Grey (Jewish), Walt Disney Co. Chief Executive Robert Iger (Jewish), Sony Pictures Chairman Michael Lynton (surprise, Dutch Jew), Warner Bros. Chairman Barry Meyer (Jewish), CBS Corp. Chief Executive Leslie Moonves (so Jewish his great uncle was the first prime minister of Israel), MGM Chairman Harry Sloan (Jewish) and NBC Universal Chief Executive Jeff Zucker (mega-Jewish). If either of the Weinstein brothers had signed, this group would have not only the power to shut down all film production but to form a minyan with enough Fiji water on hand to fill a mikvah.

Stein clears the air. And he’s even funny about it. But the impact of ethnic activism in media and government must be assessed, and critically—without the threat of reprisal. Stein expresses bemused sympathy for Hollywood’s ethnic outsiders (plain old white folks) explaining:

The Jews are so dominant, I had to scour the trades to come up with six Gentiles in high positions at entertainment companies. When I called them to talk about their incredible advancement, five of them refused to talk to me, apparently out of fear of insulting Jews. The sixth, AMC President Charlie Collier, turned out to be Jewish.

But concentrated ethnic power with a global agenda can become very un-funny indeed. Just ask the Heretical Two. Or the people of Gaza. When wealth, talent, religion and government merge, there can be many, many causalities.

Defendant Whittle, in the meantime, warns about federal legislation here in the US that poses a danger to traditional American liberties. “[House] bill HR-1955”, he notes, “is ready to begin pushing the US down the same slope as the UK and European Union”. Though this bill finally stalled in the Senate, it received overwhelmingly support by both political parties in the House.

The bill, HR-1955, was named the “Violent Radicalization and Homegrown Terrorism Prevention Act” by its liberal (and Jewish) sponsor, Jane Harman (D-CA). It contained numerous provisions criminalizing, among other things, “hate speech”, which is liberal code for selectively targeting fiery political expression. Senator Joe Lieberman (D-CT) is expected to sponsor a similar bill later this year. Other bills now under consideration in the House (HR-256 and HR-262) also seek to broaden and enhance ‘hate speech’ penalties.

But as America’s Zionized conflicts in Iraq, Afghanistan and Iran push forward, larger problems surely loom. Nevertheless, eliminating politically incorrect speech remains high on the agenda of both political parties. With help from advisors linked to the ADL, lawmakers are now drafting legislation designed to circumvent Free Speech guarantees enumerated in the Bill of Rights.

Pro-Zionist Personality Syndrome?

The pro-Zionist personality that’s been on the forefront of condemning dissent was put under the microscope recently by blogger/activist Karin Friedmann, who observes:

Jews in America are socially empowered to go way beyond the learned trauma of the Jewish experience that results in typical reactionary behavior. They actually participate in group behavior that is deliberately manipulative and abusive — aimed at punishing activists who stand up for human equality and justice. Over the years, US Jews have become increasingly nutty not only due to current events but due to the internet “alerts” coming to them from Jewish lobbyists, who solidify their brains in this self-righteous fantasy world where Hamas is a terrorist organization, where Israel has some kind of right to kill and rob non-Jews.

So we are dealing with not only dangerous reactions based on past trauma — actually learned trauma based on a glorified and fictionalized past — but American Jews are actually being trained since childhood to interact with non-Jews in a deceitful and arrogant manner, in coordination with each other, to emotionally destroy Gentiles and Israel critics, in addition to wrecking their careers and interfering with their social relationships. This is actually deliberate, wicked, planned behavior motivated by a narcissistic self-righteous fury.

The pro-Zionist personality is so commonplace that it’s now considered normal. But when far right dissenters (often smeared as white supremacists) gather publicly to lawfully and non-violently advance their own worldview, they are typically set upon by even larger numbers of left wing ‘counter-demonstrators’. There’s hate speech aplenty during these rare encounters, only it usually comes from the so-called anti-fascists.

I recall attending a rally for Pat Buchanan when he ran for President a decade or more ago. At an otherwise peaceful assemblage of Middle Americans who came to hear Buchanan’s speech, was a raucous band of protesters with signs that read “Stop Fascism” and “No Nazis Allowed.” Why aren’t inflammatory insults like these considered a form of hate speech?

A similar left/right confrontation of this kind happened recently in Germany. When a group of rightists publicly assembled to commemorate the Allied annihilation of Dresden at the end of WWII, hundreds of self-described ‘anti-fascists’ showed up in an attempt to disrupt the ceremony. Many were arrested. Significantly, when the shoe is on the other foot, many self-proclaimed anti-fascists show a remarkable disregard for civil liberties.

But if we step back and take a broader look, a case can be made that hate speech is in fact far more widespread than commonly recognized. Stranger still, it doesn’t involve the usual suspects. To find it, simply pick up a newspaper or turn on the TV. Right there you’ll find intellectuals, pundits and political leaders using language like “All [military] options are on the table” (in regards to Iran, for instance) as they softly threaten mass-murder against sovereign peoples whose governments are either insufficiently democratic, determined to develop nuclear energy, or embody some form of nebulous threat to Zio-America.

At the very least, language utilizing the implied threat of massive and pre-emptive State violence surely amounts to diplomatic terrorism. Yet this Mafioso-style diplomacy is routinely used by the US against any and all of Israel’s regional foes. Obviously, making the world safe for Zionism is a never-ending job. And if Israel’s latest government has its way, there will necessarily be still more systematic cruelty and more ethnic cleansing. After all, how else can the Israelis finally rid themselves of those unwanted, indigenous Gentiles? Making Israel’s interminable and ugly enterprise appear defensive and ‘democratic’ will surely require a lot of creative thinking.

Truly, the extreme unpleasantness of Israel’s ongoing campaign against native Arabs—sixty years and counting–goes a long way towards explaining why, throughout American mass media, there’s an increasing reliance upon drawing from one tragic event among the countless wars, invasions and annihilations that, for the past century, has scarred all of humanity. Unfortunately, today’s Zionist Jews absolutely need the Holocaust in order to justify and explain away Israel’s relentless brutality. Without it, America’s multi-racial civilization would view Zionist Israel for what it is: a political enterprise that’s inherently discriminatory.

But instead, due in no small part to intensifying media exposure, the Holocaust story looms as large—or greater—than any episode in modern history. In America today, denying the existence of God is a trifle compared to expressing skepticism about the How and Why and How Many died at the hands of Nazis. By contrast, comparable (or greater) alleged crimes by Stalin around the same era are systematically ignored. This is surely because those extraneous details detract from what’s now become America’s dominant narrative.

The Holocaust story today symbolizes the unique and enduring propensity for unprovoked cruelty by Gentiles (anti-Semitism) towards an innocent, less numerous (but greater) people. It also serves to remind Jews that only their unity, determination and vigilance can possibly save them from the lurking evil found within the hearts of countless non-Jews.

Finally, the Holocaust narrative deliberately creates and preserves enormous levels of guilt among Gentiles. This in turn induces them to yield before Jewish demands. As any dispossessed Palestinian will explain, the political payoff for Zionists is unparalleled.

Opposing views about The Holocaust (and Jewish history) now define the outer limits of Free Speech in the Western World. Without the courageous sacrifice by a handful of dissidents, this might never change.


Simon Sheppard and Stephen Whittle can be contacted by mail at:

Simon Sheppard 08-6404
C/O Santa Ana Jail
Box 22003
Santa Ana, CA, USA 92701

Stephen Whittle 08-6408
C/O Santa Ana Jail
Box 22003
Santa Ana, CA, USA 92701

For information about making a financial donation to help free the Heretical Two, please contact Paul Ballard who is heading up their Legal Defense Fund.

Contributions can also be sent to the Fund in the UK addressed as follows: Croydon Preservation Society, P. O. Box 301, Carshalton, Surrey, SM5 4QW, United Kingdom.

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  1. Rita said on February 21st, 2009 at 10:04am #

    Well, the author attended a rally for Pat Buchanan. What more needs to be said? I guess he doesn’t approve of ‘illegal aliens’ since that was Buchanan’s biggest claim to fame in that campaign.

    What is with this website? Can you not publish an article that criticizes israeli politics and crimes of agression without the right wing hatemongers voices? Honestly. I myself had a piece published here last year. I haven’t visited this site for many months, but it seems to have taken a turn somehow.

    The second paragraph , quoting Karin Friedman, is just plain wierd and a bit deranged, in my opinion.

    Well, i will stop here.

  2. SpargeL said on February 21st, 2009 at 11:03am #

    WELL … “Rita” found this page and __ as the Big-Brother Ra’anan GISSIN in his http://giyus.org asked __ “she” jumps quick to MINIMALIZE the value of these posted ideas.

    The JEWISH INQUISITION works exactly like in the Stalinist Era (Zionists formed the Bolshevik Dictatory Soviet Union to have o big Longhorn-ox to break the Turkish Empire AND MAKE THAT Israel crap). Now the Jewish OX are the half-dead economically USA.

    In the USA you have now RIGHT_WING -BOLSHEVISM with SOCIALISM FOR RICH CROOCKS _see youTUBE David Rockefeller attempt to buy Aaron RUSSO_ but all the rest “may stay” in Globalized Capitalism :-)) “Selectiv Zionist BailOUT”…

    Let’s see how long this post remains on this page:
    30 minutes needs a human corp to get BURNED.= 4/h in an oven with place for 2 corps inside. Oswiecim -Poland had 3 , we say 10 (it’s OK so, we are Zionists 🙂 ). The year has for us 366 days (OK so, we are spendable). Now see how many years the SS needed to burn 4 Million Jews in KZ. I suppose that they burned OTHER NATIONS , too BUT WE are Zionists and ask for a Jewish -monopoly on the avens ;-)… OK, with Arithmetiks for the 3 or 4th class you could explane that al, that HoloCA$H is a hoax.
    Even if you take 1939 as a START, you land in the year 1950 with the burnings :-))))) After a PAPER WITH INTENTIONS:
    even so it would take 5-6 years to burn 4 millions. Of course ONLY JEWS, the rest dissappeared instantly, Russians, Polski, Gypsies…
    This Jewish-Zionist crap transforms the whole World in a Soviet Union. They don’t know something else.
    With the REAL number of ovens, you may land in the ’70 after Chr. :-))

  3. Tree said on February 21st, 2009 at 12:08pm #

    “But when far right dissenters (often smeared as white supremacists) gather publicly to lawfully and non-violently advance their own worldview, they are typically set upon by even larger numbers of left wing ‘counter-demonstrators’.”

    Give me a fucking break.

  4. John Davis said on February 21st, 2009 at 1:18pm #

    Very truthful article that should be read by many. It’s the things you don’t see or hear about, that hurt society the most.

  5. Michael Kenny said on February 21st, 2009 at 1:25pm #

    Well, I suppose if this website can publish articles which present the Daily Telegraph as an authoritative source for anything other than a chuckle, it can publish this!

    In the midst of all the ranting, there are a few serious legal points. Whether the two should be extradited is a matter of American law which is none of my business, but for exactly the same reason, what constitutes free speech in Europe is none of Mr Green’s business and Europeans have never regarded free speech as including the right to insult people.

    The two men are British nationals living in Britain and intended to bring illegal material to a British audience by evading their own country’s law. No legal system on earth permits that. If Mr Green’s view of the law were adopted, an American paedophile, living in the US, would be able to post illegal material on the internet and escape prosecution merely by posting it on a site based outside, but accessible in, the US. If Americans think that is a noble exercise of freedom, then more fools they!

    All the rest, from British diplomats quoting Mel Gibson to Les Moonves’s ancestors, is totally irrelevant.

    Just to correct something I’ve seen in several places, Bishop Williamson is not a Catholic. He is a member of the Society of St. Pius X, which is currently seeking to be admitted to the Catholic Church but, for the moment, is still outside it. That’s precisely his beleif that the earth is flat came to public attention.

    By the way, if you want to know more about Mr Green, his wife, Wendy Campbell, has a Wikipedia page.

  6. Ron Horn said on February 21st, 2009 at 2:09pm #

    The article is spot on. The Zionists, especially in the U.S., function as a fifth column to distort issues, quash dissent, steal military secrets, fund politicians, etc., all to serve the interests of another state–Israel. But people, whose lives are beginning to unravel under Zionist and capitalist imperialism, are gradually waking up. Even Americans, who have been brainwashed by so many decades of Zionist controlled media, are beginning to question.

  7. KR said on February 21st, 2009 at 4:16pm #

    This article is a real turn-off.

    I hope some here will take the time to read the pamphlet linked below titled “The Past Didn’t Go Anywhere: Making Resistance to Anti-Semitism Part of All of Our Movements.”

    It presents a very principled approach, and one all of us on the left can learn from.


  8. Barry said on February 21st, 2009 at 4:37pm #

    KR – Anti-Semitism is not a major problem in our country. Anti-Arab and anti-Muslim racism and phobias are real problems. Racism against blacks is historically our biggest blot, and in fact, so too is racism against non-white peoples in general. Jews, on the other hand, are our nation’s most successful immigrants. This does not mean that Jews have not suffered. But compared to what has been done to blacks, Hispanics, Asians, and Native-Americans, the plight of Jews in America is comparable to a hazing. And I think the Irish, as the US’s first large-scale non-Protestant white group to come here suffered more, and for a longer period of time. They too were enslaved and made up a high percentage of indentured servants.

    Certainly, people on the left sometimes get heated and fail to draw the line as to what is Zionist or Israeli and what is intrinsic to Jewishness. But that is in large measure because of the tenacity with which many American Jews fight on the behalf of Israel. And all of us who are male, or white, or well-off have had to endure situations where one of these classes of people took it on the chin. Hey, it goes with the territory.

  9. HR said on February 21st, 2009 at 5:00pm #

    Jews have no exclusive right to the term holocaust, or to the term semitic. They have imposed holocausts in the past, if their biblical history is to be believed and have subjected Palestinians to one over the last 60 years. Arabs are semitic, too. Some of the comments here show just how hypocritical the so-called left can be.

  10. rg the lg said on February 21st, 2009 at 5:11pm #

    Entering a discussion like this by a self-acknowledged cynic (cynicism is the hard shell an idealist grows to protect the ideals from reality), is quite dangerous. But, what do I care … really …

    The whole issue spins on who is having their ox gored … and in my book, any attempt BY GOVERNMENT to quash opinion is a bad thing. Having said that, there is a line to be drawn between saying the unpopular and incitement to act against a minority … any minority (though it seems right-wingers do not constitute a minority by any definition).

    The issue here seems to be that the right-wing and the Israeli lobby have a lot of issues in common … imperialist behavior being an obvious one … and therefore support each others acts and activities.

    But then, as we ‘rats’ over-populate the planet, we can expect some rather nasty events as we in the wealthy nations continue to hold down/back the masses from other countries. Even the poorest American is so much wealthier than the rest of the world’s really poor that we really need a new word to describe lack of wealth. ‘Les misrables’ pops to mind?


    RG the LG

  11. Doug Valentine said on February 21st, 2009 at 5:38pm #

    Denying “the holocaust” is a crime? Incredible.
    Why is it a crime?
    Is questioning “the holocaust” a crime too?
    Taking “the holocaust” in vain?

    Next it’ll be a crime to deny “The Donald!”

  12. Gideon said on February 21st, 2009 at 7:07pm #

    Arrested for saying what you think? Can it happen in a free society?

    “Depends on what you think. There’s a continuum of speech from merely offensive, but protected, to becoming a criminal offense. Everything from fraud to solicitation of murder is punished.”

    “Nothing is simple in the realm of speech. “Turning the prism” factually makes a huge difference. “Mere” Holocaust denial is one thing. Rallying neo-Nazis to another Holocaust under the banner of free speech sounds all too familiar in today’s world.”

    “Holocaust is an historic fact and there is no sense in denying this unparalleled crime.” – Schröder told Iranians.

    Many countries in Europe have laws banning Holocaust denial.

  13. Brian Koontz said on February 21st, 2009 at 7:21pm #

    “Finally, the Holocaust narrative deliberately creates and preserves enormous levels of guilt among Gentiles. This in turn induces them to yield before Jewish demands. As any dispossessed Palestinian will explain, the political payoff for Zionists is unparalleled.”

    It’s not the Holocaust narrative that does that – gentiles have racist guilt because they are racist – the Western funded genocides in Africa and the mass destruction of Iraq, both complicitly supported by Western white majorities, are only the latest examples.

    For Americans, the primary lure of Zionism is in it’s parallels to New World settlers in America – in both cases exterminating an indigenous “dark” people by a “more advanced”, “more technological”, “less primitive” society. There is thus a deep spiritual link between Americans and Zionists.

    Noone seems to know what the boundaries are for Zionists’ Manifest Destiny. The world would rather not find out the hard way.

  14. Shabnam said on February 21st, 2009 at 8:18pm #

    Schroder like Joschka Fischer has no respect around the world since both are zionist puppets. The Iranian president like any other university professors and people who are interested in historical events will ask questions about Holocaust like any other world events to contribute to human knowledge. Only non-thinking individuals repeat the official line which has forced upon world population. The Zionist puppet Schroder must answer this: since Schroder preaches the official line then he must recognize that it was his country and his people who made the Holocaust like Zionists who have made Palestinian Holocaust and lately Gaza Holocaust. Thus, he has to give, as Saudi king and others have already said, the best part of land in Germany to the victims of Holocaust. The rest is cheap talk and has no value.
    Dr. Ahmadinejad has correctly said: “Palestinian had no role in WWII Holocaust. Why should Palestinian pay for a crime that have not committed?” People have a right to ask question about anything on earth. We are not going to accept zionist fascist control over freedom of expression to facilitate their plan for world domination. One of the Iranian communist sympathizers told the judge in Court during the Cold War era when he was asked: “Have you read Capital?” He said: “To read a book is not a crime. You should ask instead why people do not read.”
    Raise your voice against zionist inquisition today, because tomorrow is too late.

  15. KR said on February 21st, 2009 at 9:05pm #

    I still hope folks will read the pamphlet I linked. It’s not a matter of “oppression Olympics,” but simple common sense about how to best seek collective liberation with a clear and humane analysis.

  16. Deadbeat said on February 21st, 2009 at 11:01pm #

    Brian Koontz writes…

    For Americans, the primary lure of Zionism is in it’s parallels to New World settlers in America – in both cases exterminating an indigenous “dark” people by a “more advanced”, “more technological”, “less primitive” society. There is thus a deep spiritual link between Americans and Zionists.

    I think Brian is “over-thinking” the issue. The link between Americans and Zionism is that Zionism is over-runned U.S. institution. Its power is immense and its control of especially the media cowers politicians and its propaganda shapes the discourse.

    It is a mistake fir that the “Left” to make such so-called “links”. It borders on Chomskyism as a means to AVOID dealing with the reality of Zionist power and influence within U.S. institutions.

  17. Ramsefall said on February 22nd, 2009 at 8:20am #


    while I don’t believe that the Holocaust is a myth, the concept of free societies certainly is.

    I’m wondering what these guys (Sheppard and Whittle) were thinking, despite their ludicrous beliefs that insult victims of historical precedence, by seeking asylum in the Empire? They may as well have sought asylum in Israel.

    It’s a shame that freedom of speech is eroding in Amerika, and that Europe is generally even much less tolerant to opposing opinions that challenge the status quo. Just the same, it’s a brave new world and the Orwellian society surrounds our daily life.

    Change we can believe in? Looks like we’re headed into new, unchartered territories as the elite reinforce their sense of security for themselves, and we begin to witness change that’s unbelievable.

    Best to all.

  18. Myles Hoenig said on February 22nd, 2009 at 9:21am #

    Is this the same Mark Green who on Grit TV called Ali Abunimah’s (Electronic Intifada) analysis of the Israeli assault on Gaza ‘propaganda’?

  19. Myles Hoenig said on February 22nd, 2009 at 11:34am #

    I have just learned from a very reliable source (Mark Green himself), that this author is NOT the Mark Green who owns Air America and espouses anti-Palestinian screeds.
    My apologies to this MG.


  20. Brandy Baker said on February 22nd, 2009 at 11:56am #

    The Mark Green that wrote the above article is not that jackass Mark Green who owns Air America radio and called Ali Abunimah’s analysis “propaganda”. That was outrageous, but what can be expected from the Air America crowd.

  21. Beverly said on February 22nd, 2009 at 6:14pm #

    They should have sought asylum in Canada – or maybe not, with US-butt kisser Stephen Harper in charge.

    Check out some home grown free speech follies at blackagendareport.com:

    2/18/09 edition. “Who Won the Civil War?” by Jonathan D. Farley. Farley is Vanderbilt professor who got run out of town for a article he wrote.

    11/26/08 edition.l “Rev. Pinkney – and God – Versus Racism in Michigan” Pinkney is a local activist who was jailed for his comments. (to locate this archived piece, click “African American” on BAR home page and then click “Mass Incarceration”).

    No surprise on the mainstream media’s silence on Sheppard and Whittle. Who in the press needs free speech rights when their job is to regurgitate what the corporment (govt +

  22. Beverly said on February 22nd, 2009 at 6:17pm #

    to finish my comment – I hit the submit key by mistake!

    Who in the press needs free speech when their job is to regurgitate what the corporment (govt + corporations) dictate.

  23. youalreadyknow said on February 24th, 2009 at 4:52am #

    Why is it so hard for people to see what is front of their eyes…

    Fox news is conservative media… They are pro-Israel moreso then most liberal media. Why? Because Israel is an imperialist/ fascist state!

    I am not going to self-justify for deeply programmed in saying the usual “I know the holocaust happened and I am just criticizing Israel blah blah” . Like I have to first prove I am not some hatemongering beast who wishes suffering on a group of people who I attribute all the worlds problems too, just so I can criticize Israel or even just TALK about the holocaust. As if to say that someone is full of venomous hatred, and is nearly likened to the devil himself for criticizing the practices of a group of people (and their affiliates) who refer to themselves as the Jews. DO YOU NOT SEE HOW RIDICULOUS THIS IS? TAKE A STEP BACK AND THINK ABOUT IT… Every civilization in the history of mankind has suffered some injustice at the hands of another MANY in which more people of a certain group died. Why Israels actions must always be contextualized or referenced to the holocaust is ridiculous. THIS IS BORDERLINE LUNACY!!! THIS WHOLE SCENARIO (i.e. Jews Vs. Nazis) !!! LOOK AT WHO OWNS THE FKN BANKS! THE FKN CORPORATIONS! THE MEDIA! HOW LONG WILL PEOPLE PERSIST IN DENIAL… SOME PEOPLE DON’T EVEN BELIEVE THIS IS TRUE. WTF ARE THEY SMOKING!!! LOOK AT THE GOD DAMN NAMES ON THE FORTUNE 500… DISCREPANCY BETWEEN RICH AND POOR ANYONE!!! SOCIALISM ANYONE!!! You so called lefties need to open your fkn eyes, HOW ARE YOU GOING TO HAVE A REVOLUTION WITHOUT OVERCOMING THAT HURDLE!!! CLEARLY THIS MEANS THAT ANYONE WHO WANTS THE POOR TO NOT BE POOR IS ANTI-‘SEMITIC’. CLEARLY!!! GUESS WE BETTER USE OUR “PURCHASING POWER” or ENGAGE IN PEACEFUL PROTEST. FKN PROGRAMMING PEOPLE!!! FUCK! DON’T HATE BUT FOR GOD SAKES BUT GET WITH THE FUCKING FACTS! YOU HAVE BEEN PROGRAMMED, AND MANY WILL CLAIM TO DEPROGRAM YOU, BUT DON’T BELIEVE ANYTHING, BECAUSE THEY WANT YOU TO BE ANTI-JEW, ONE MISLEAD INDIGNANT KNOW IT ALL AT A TIME!

    On a calmer note…

    I have self-referred as a socialist for sometime. The people that leave comments instructing what the ‘left’ (the so called ‘peoples’ wing) ‘ should and should not do are the ones that scare me. They are the idealists who have no clue of the reality of the shit they are in, they think that propaganda is Fox news, they cant see the deception in things like “democracy now” or even this website… MAYBE ITS A TRAP!!! WHO GIVES A FUCK! And no… Aliens don’t run the world and the nurses aren’t stealing my money. But this is all smoke and mirrors baby!

    You know who else scares me, the right wing media who has convinced people that what is occurring is in the US regarding bailouts and stimulus packages is socialism! Watch how they use this in the coming months after they start saying a black socialist did it!

    The Jewish thing is so obvious though, really you HAVE to be self-deceiving to not see the connection to that and the brunt of the shit we are in. Does that mean one should shave a swastika on their head, and align themselves with some ‘movement’ that targets Jews? CLEARLY NOT THATS PART OF THE PLAN! But (and I know this will be totally taken the wrong way) sometimes I wonder if that lunacy is really less intense then the cowardice of completely avoiding the issue all together. The optimal way of addressing those who are fking us over is as rich/ powerful people, this is the most objective way to avoid being sucked into one of there many distractions be it Jews, religion, race etc. And it would not be less objective to say that a significant disproportion of these people are imperialist supporting self-describing Jews and Jewish supporters. So lets see here, we have a environment deteriorating due to corporate/ media supported mass consumption, we have people being put into debt by money lenders, we have mainstream media that is about as informative as my girlfriends ass, and we have a group of people with a stated affiliation who are in charge of a large chunk of it, but nevermind, just go the fuck back to sleep, because WE all know, and we all know we cant do anything about it except rationalize, and react with the plethora of decision making protocols we have been conditioned with.

    BUT… heres the problem. The Jews who profited off of WW2 are equally motivated today, I wouldn’t put it past them to galvanize the “9/11 was an inside job” libertarians towards the end of anti-semitism, should Usama not come through for them 🙂 Nothing like being able to split the world in two… and cash in when the smoke clears.

    How convenient for such a sinister plan it is that half of the Jews (the duped religious ones) are all located in one place… I really dont know what they are up to now! But I am sure its stranger then fiction!

    As for the guy criticizing the site for facilitating dialogue that goes beyond bullshit politalk, go watch some democracy now, and read Naomi Klein, maybe some Noam Chomsky if you are feeling like it, its well suited to blue pill poppers.


    Emphasis on MASS, because the mass sometimes APPEARS critical

    THIS WEBSITE SCREENS POSTS!!!! “Dissident voice”…


  24. Brian Koontz said on February 24th, 2009 at 9:54am #

    In reply to Deadbeat:

    “Brian Koontz writes…

    For Americans, the primary lure of Zionism is in it’s parallels to New World settlers in America – in both cases exterminating an indigenous “dark” people by a “more advanced”, “more technological”, “less primitive” society. There is thus a deep spiritual link between Americans and Zionists.

    I think Brian is “over-thinking” the issue. The link between Americans and Zionism is that Zionism is over-runned U.S. institution. Its power is immense and its control of especially the media cowers politicians and its propaganda shapes the discourse.

    It is a mistake fir that the “Left” to make such so-called “links”. It borders on Chomskyism as a means to AVOID dealing with the reality of Zionist power and influence within U.S. institutions.”

    Crediting Zionism with power it does not possess is fueled by hatred of and paranoia about Jews.

    Israel is a client state of the US. It’s the US’s most powerful and most useful client state. It may at some point in the future grow in power to become the US’s junior partner, or it may evaporate in a nuclear holocaust largely of the US’s (and global capital’s) making.

    Per capita Jews hold considerable power in the US. But their numbers are small and despite various anti-Jewish assertions to the contrary, they are not a unified organized force.

    Just because Zionism loves to exaggerate or invent threats to Jews doesn’t mean there aren’t real threats to Jews – several comments and a few articles on Dissident Voice are anti-Jew.

    Just like we seek to improve our own lives, we seek to improve the lives of Jews. This means destroying Zionism, which is a threat to Jewish security as well as a threat to the security of many other people.

    Granting Jews and Zionism false power only holds us back from improving the world.

  25. Shabnam said on March 4th, 2009 at 8:32am #

    In an interview with Susan Lindauer, an agent who is a specialist in politics of Iraq, revealed that Mossad knew about 9/11 terrorist act and sent its agents with video cameras to document this tragedy before the airplane reached WTC. Mossad agents were waiting for the airplanes on the sidewalk with their video cameras.
    This is a strong evidence suggests that Israel was involved in 9/11 and Bush knew about it. The following events support the revealed information. Who did benefit from 9/11? Who has been victimized by 9/11? Who has been killed by 9/11? An honest answer to these questions documents the real terrorists and guilty country/countries where are behind this tragedy to FRAME ARABS AND MUSLIMS ALIKE.
    We demand the guilty brought to justice. Where are the fools who were repeating stupid lines such as “bring Bin Laden” to justice? Every one with more than two brain cells knows that Bin Laden is dead since 2002 and he has been preserved in the freezer of the main intelligent services who are responsible for this tragedy.

    {Lindauer: Dr. Fuisz never formally revealed his source to me. But within about 30 minutes after airplanes struck the Twin Towers , he blurted something to me over the phone.

    He told me the Israeli Mossad had advance warning about the attack. As I recall, he said it before the buildings collapsed.

    He asked me if I thought it was “an accident that a man and woman happened to be waiting on the sidewalk with a video camera, ready to record the attack.” He was highly agitated. He challenged me “how often a bystander has a camera cued up to record a car accident?” }

    Then he said, “Those are Israeli agents. It’s not an accident. They knew this attack was coming. And they were waiting for it.”


  26. ZIHOP said on March 9th, 2009 at 3:53am #

    The Zionists not only knew 9-11 was going to happen, they MADE it happen.
    There is a mountain of circumstantial evidence. But who can question them? It’s practically against the law! Thanks to the fascist ADL and other Jewish groups and lobbyists. We had BETTER question AND CHALLENGE them before it’s too late, that is FOR SURE.