The Hate Mongers Among Us

First in a 4-part Series

Hate is a harsh word. As the counterpoint to love, hate reigns supreme among those emotions that the faith traditions seek to expunge from the human heart.

Hate,we’re told, is the face of evil seen in plumes of smoke and ash on 911. Yet hate also serves a purpose for those adept at catalyzing conflicts.

In the aftermath of that horrific event, hate, we’re assured,is a desired emotional state. Yet induced hate led us into two unwinnable wars. Hate may yet take us into Iran. Or Pakistan.

That hate is also bankrupting us both financially and psychologically.

This 4-part series identifies those who induce us to hate—and describes how.

As the “how” of hate-mongering becomes transparent, its common source will become apparent. With transparency comes accountability. That’s when you can watch for hate to emerge yet again to shield those who hide behind the toxic charge of “anti-Semitism.”

With the shared knowledge of how hate is evoked and sustained, those provoked to hate can say with confidence “Never Again” to those complicit in inducing this evil.

Timing is Everything

Hate can be personal or geopolitical. Those who induced us to war in the Middle East made it personal. The murderous provocation of 911 was emotionally wrenching and intensely personal. As a people, our gut reaction ensured that support for the war would become widespread.

In the aftermath of that mass murder on U.S. soil, Martin Peretz, editor of The New Republic, summed up the situation: “We are all Israelis now.”

So now we can all be persuaded to hate Muslims—even if we’ve never met one.

The shared mental environment was flooded with what then seemed like plausible justifications for the invasion of Iraq: Iraqi WMD; Iraqi ties to Al Qaeda; Iraqi meetings with Al Qaeda in Prague; Iraqi mobile biological weapons laboratories; Iraqi purchases of yellowcake uranium from Niger.

We now know that all those rationales were fixed around a preset agenda. Yet a critical mass of false beliefs sufficed to take us to war. For those skilled at inducing hate, consensus beliefs need not be true, they need only be credible—and only for a limited time.

With a corrupt consensus ruling the day, anyone offering proof that Iraq was not a threat was dismissed as unpatriotic or soft on terrorism.

This 911-prompted hate fest started with Iraq, a former ally, as a U.S.-led invasion kicked off The Clash of Civilizations. The bravado of “bring ‘em on” quickly became “shock and awe” as a vicious invasion was pursued with a relaxed “Aw Shucks” attitude supported with a media campaign comprised of photo ops of a commander-in-chief nonchalantly clearing brush at his home in Crawford, Texas.

Brand America became “We’re still the world’s biggest and baddest in the war-waging business. Just you watch.”

And watch us go broke as America led an Atlantic coalition that, like Israel, alienated much of the Muslim world.

An Invalid War

Plus there’s another strategic problem: our reason for invading Iraq was “invalid.” That’s the assessment of Defense Secretary Robert Gates. He should know. After the invasion, the invalid storyline quickly shifted to “Saddam the Evil Doer” as our rationale.

How can the rationale be invalid? If we’re all Israelis now, surely that entitles us to invade lands belonging to Muslims, kill them, transform them into refugees and, with impunity, create widespread outrage among the broader Muslim population.

Let’s fast-forward to nine years after a high-profile slaughter in Manhattan and survey our success in the stark light of hindsight. Are we more secure? Are we more prosperous? Are Americans facing a brighter future? Are our children proud of the outcome?

Israel has occupied Palestinian land for more than six decades. The September 13th issue of Time magazine captured the Israeli sentiment: “Why Israel Doesn’t Care About Peace.”

Israelis are too busy prospering to care. Outraged Muslims are a nuisance but they’re now largely marginalized and, for the most part, manageable. Is that what happened to us? Have Americans become Israelis?

Not long ago an internal poll of friendly foreign intelligence agencies ranked our best and worst allies — those who behave as friends to the U.S. versus those who are clearly foes. Israel ranked dead last as a reliable ally. Though their brazen theft of technical and industrial secrets is well known among those in the know, the broader U.S. public remains deceived or in denial.

Most Americans still see Israel as an ally. The facts confirm that’s a dangerous delusion.

Meanwhile Mossad agents are recruiting Arab-Americans to spy on their neighbors in the U.S. Though Tel Aviv is called on the carpet three times as often as other nations, Israel still ranks third in the aggressiveness of its U.S. operations, behind only China and Russia.

That ranking may well be out of date with Israel now first in foreign operations on U.S. soil.

Other Telling Signs

Zionist Jews deployed terror and intimidation to occupy Muslim lands long before Harry Truman was induced in 1948 to recognize an extremist enclave as a legitimate nation state. Disputes over land remain at the heart of the expansionist agenda for Greater Israel.

On September 7, Palestinian leader, Mahmoud Abbas, asked that the U.S. settle a dispute over the Israeli expansion of settlements that threaten to derail Mideast peace talks. Those talks have dragged on since 1967. Settling those disputes would disrupt the Zionist agenda.

In a telling rebuke, on September 12th, Tel Aviv rejected a proposed visit to Israel by the foreign ministers of France, Spain, Britain, Germany and Italy. Why? These senior diplomats sought a remedy to that dispute in order to achieve a long-evasive peace.

Therein lies Israel’s strategic strength. Absent this sustained provocation (43 years and counting), hatred might subside and peace may become a possibility. That’s a danger Tel Aviv works hard to avoid.

September 12th also saw the release of a new report indicating that 2,066 new homes would be constructed in the West Bank as soon as the temporary freeze expires September 26th.

Meanwhile back in the U.S., Americans remain unaware of how many contracts for Homeland Security were awarded to Israeli firms or to firms owned by pro-Israelis. Nor do Americans realize how many Homeland Security outlays have been directed to Jewish community centers.

That’s all the more reason for Zionists—both Jewish and Christian—to create an uproar about an Islamic Community Center planned for construction two blocks from the 911 site in Manhattan.

And all the more reason for a Christian-Zionist preacher to designate the ninth anniversary of 911 as “International Burn a Koran Day” at his 50-member church.

The Koran gambit gained global attention, stoked by a media dominated by Jewish Zionists. High profile political personalities ensured that this hate-mongering stunt was kept in the forefront of international news coverage in the lead-up to the anniversary of modern history’s best-known hate-mongering provocation.

Next: Signs of a rift between U.S. politicians and U.S. national security

Jeff Gates is author of Guilt By Association, Democracy at Risk, and The Ownership Solution. Read other articles by Jeff, or visit Jeff's website.

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  1. MichaelKenny said on September 15th, 2010 at 7:43am #

    The problem with this is thay Mr Gates falls into the “Israel always wins” trap. Outraged Muslims are most certainly not largely marginalized or manageable! It is a typically American mistake to assume that anyone who is not snarling hatred into your face is subservient. It is also a typically American (and Jewish!) mistake to beleive that you can beat people down by force indefinitely. Muslim outrage is alive and well and biding its time! Once American power collapses, Israel has little choice but to cut a deal on Palestinian terms. It is yet another typically American mistake to assume that only Americans are clever!
    Equally, Mr Gates doesn’t seem to realise that the “Koran gambit” and the “Mosque gambit” are both disasters for the US and Israel. On the one hand, both incidents made the US an international laughing stock and no one respects those they laugh at. Secondly, they set up a confrontation between the US on one side and Islam in general on the other. No one in their right mind thinks the US could win such a confrontation and the rest of the world, and in particular, Europe, will want to keep out of such a confrontation. Thus, in so far as either incident was “stoked” by any part of the Israel Lobby, they have shot themselves in the foot.
    Yes, hate is an American problem, but that’s precisely the point. It’s an AMERICAN problem. The rest of the world may suffer in the short term as American hatemongers strut and posture and bully, but ultimately, the consequences of American hate will fall on American heads.

  2. bozh said on September 15th, 2010 at 8:41am #

    Am i wrong in my observation that the stronger a state is asocialistic and is more for chasmic difference in earnings, the stronger support of US for it.
    Israel, of course being such a state and most likely a 51st US state.

    Thus why US wld not use its power and terrritory to fight also hizbollah and thus iran. And from own territory; closest to the enemy.

    And does not US also use colombia in its fight against a more egalitarian society?
    It did turkey; emplacing missiles on its borders in order to frighten socialists in SU.

    US, ‘elite’ is not going broke; else, if they do, they’d in a day bring troops back home! No?
    So, whose paying for wars. Jeff, please find out! Is it coming from higher heating and driving costs; with all planetarians paying for it!

    So, the silently-expressed hope that US will go broke and the meats wld rise in revolt and change america for better and thus wait for it, appears as viable option?

    Not to me.Why not try what some euro lands are trying now! At least there is some barking going on in some of those blabbing groups of rich people.
    And in US congress not even one person barking or barking up the wrong tree; such as kucinich!

  3. hayate said on September 15th, 2010 at 8:52am #

    Jewish zionists – that is where the hate mongering starts.

  4. bozh said on September 15th, 2010 at 8:57am #

    One recent historical fact, the invasion of lebanon ’06, shows that US cld have won the war against hizbollah but, as we now know, let the win slip and let IOF get s’mwhat beaten.

    So, if ‘jews’ control US foreign policy to the degree that many fear, why not command US forces to forever crush not only hisbollah but also hamas?

    Or even to establish a ‘jewish’ state only that wld stretch not only to littani but also euphrates and nile? After all haven’t hebrews arrived in canaan from sumerian Ur ca 4-5 k yrs ago and have every right to return there???

    Curioso appears that sem. cannaanites left canaan for Ur some 4 k yrs ago. And why? Because it had been too small, arid, cold, and forever at war with all kinds of peoples; including egyptians, hittites, hyxos, et al. tnx

  5. Rehmat said on September 15th, 2010 at 10:14am #

    If one study the Jewish literature – both Zionist and religious – from objective sources – one will find that the great majority of Jews are born in hatred towards non-Jews and even those Jews (the self-hating ones) who dis agree with the exploitation of the Old Testament.

    As the famous ‘The Protocols’ says: “Whosoever control the communication (propaganda), controls the world”. Any well-informed person would tell you that 96% of the world mass-media is owned by six Jew Zionist families.

    Thanks to the control over the mass-media, all the Israeli false-flag operations including 9/11, 7/7 and Mumbai, were all pinned on Muslims without any proof which could be proved in a court of law.

    In other words, the Holy Vengeance which Christians practiced against the Jew minorities in the past – has been turned on Muslims by Judeo-Christians for the love of Jewish money and sex.

    http://rehmat1.wordpress.com/2010/09/11/the-holy-vengeance/

  6. kalidas said on September 15th, 2010 at 12:30pm #

    Hate is fear having a bad day.
    And anyone born, raised and carrying on in an atmosphere of existentialities, eating heaping helpings of narcissism with a side of angst for breakfast every morning is gonna have a lot of bad days.
    Quite possibly all of them.

  7. Don Hawkins said on September 15th, 2010 at 12:53pm #

    Just had a person come in the shop a teacher and he seemed down a little on edge. So all I said was having a bad day? He said yes how could you tell? I didn’t answer that question but he told me two girls are disrupting the class. All I said was maybe watching to much Gaga Gaga. I guess I could have just let him be down and take it for that and maybe even think it was me but I made a decision heck maybe am a decider.

  8. teafoe2 said on September 15th, 2010 at 1:37pm #

    3bancan said on September 15th, 2010 at 9:37am #

    MichaelKenny said on September 15th, 2010 at 7:43am #

    “Once American power collapses, Israel has little choice but to cut a deal on Palestinian terms”

    MichaelKenny’s zionazi blather resembles more and more Bozh’s…

    However I T42 beg to differ. MichaelKenny’s blather is that of a fanatic Phalangist crackpot. Bozh is just a crackpot:)

  9. Rehmat said on September 15th, 2010 at 1:39pm #

    No child is born in hate. It’s the parents and the society – raised on hatred which turns the child to be hateful. Why would the Israeli children signed greetings on the rockets meant to be dropped on the Lebanese children in 2006 during 34-day war with Hizbullah?

    “Every nation, in its time of misfortune, has conspirators who do their work in secret. In our case an entire nation has been raised on conspiracy. With others the conspiracy is political; with us it is religious and national,” – Chaim Kaplan wrote in his diary during Warsaw ghetto uprising, ‘The Scroll of Agony”

    “Each country can only absorb a limited number of Jews, if she doesn’t want disorders in her stomach. Germany has already too many Jews,” – Theodor Herzl

    “Anti-Semitism is an understandable reaction to Jewish defects,” – Dr. Chaim Weizmann, first president of Zionist Israel.

    “One million Arabs are not worth a Jewish fingernail.” —Rabbi Yaacov Perrin, Feb. 27, 1994.

    “Show no mercy to the people of Gaza,” – Israel\’s Chief Military Rabbi, Brigadier General Avi Ronzki

    http://rehmat1.wordpress.com/2009/02/12/israelis-people-raised-on-hatred/

  10. Mulga Mumblebrain said on September 16th, 2010 at 1:42am #

    I know from my own reading, of Australian and UK media, with some US thrown in, that behind almost every outburst of Islamophobic hatred are Zionist, Rightwing Jews (I’ll refer to them from now on as Judeofascists, although their mentality long pre-dates fascism). They are either the direct authors of the hate,or the well-known sponsors of the Sabbat Goy stooges who do their dirty work for them. The prime locus of their operations in this country is the Murdoch pathocratic apparatus. Whether you count Murdoch as a Jew himself, on the basis of his mother being a Jew (and, to all appearances, the polar opposite of her son, charming, amiable and decent) a type of crypto-Jew like the Donmeh perhaps, doesn’t really matter, because he is, in my opinion, as vile a Zionist as exists.
    The bias towards Israel and against Islam,Moslems and the Palestinians (save the Fatah Quislings)is absolute, but that is the Murdoch modus operandi.On all topics the Murdoch pathology operates as a ranting, raving,lying, dissembling, slandering propaganda apparatus, for the most Rightwing position available.And all contention,all disputes, are painted in a puerile Manichean manner (the element of crude projection is always infuriating, but often so crass as to be laughable)where the Right (the US, Israel, Republicans, business leaders etc) are the quintessence of good and decency, and the ‘Left’ (‘progressives’, socialists, environmentalists, Palestinians, Iran, China etc) the very embodiment of evil.
    I have seen that the position is the same, to a slightly lesser degree, amongst the other media groups in Australia. I have had friends and relatives employed in the media here over decades, and the other big empire Fairfax, which runs the Sydney Morning Herald, and TheAge, plus other interests, made it plain that criticism of Israel or Jews was absolutely forbidden, and career-ending.
    The situation, plainly, is the same throughout the West, and this reflex support of Israel,no matter what its crimes, and contempt for its victims, easily explains ‘why they hate us’, and it has nothing to do with contemptible faery stories about our ‘morality’ and ‘values’. The opinions pages are crammed with Jews, just 1% or so of the population,and not by Chomskys or his ilk, but by savage hate fomentors and vilifiers like Melanie Phillips in the UK. The Israeli version of events is always preferred, the other side downplayed or totally suppressed.The ZBC’s shameful treatment of the Israeli death-squad attack on the ‘Mavi Marmara’ in the Panorama program was typically base and biased.
    While the Judeofascists preach their hatred openly, their activities are,officially,ignored. In the letters columns, or in the blogs of the mass media,it is totally forbidden to mention the ethnicity or religion or political allegiance of these hate mongers. On the ABC’s blog, TheDrum, where one contributor had managed to get a list of those behind the ‘9/11 Mosque’ hate-fest published, when I tried, repeatedly,to point out that every one of them was a Rightwing Likudnik Israeli, a diaspora Judeofascist or an arm of Mossad or some other branch of the Zionist state, it was censored. A policy clearly operates where mentioning the fact that some criminal or some political operative, some vilifier or propagandist is Jewish, is forbidden. De facto Jews have become the one group that, at least as far as the media is concerned, never do anything wrong, and criticism of their actions is always motivated by simple hatred.
    Of course, having established this position above all criticism,in the West, that so closely mirrors their own limitless narcissism and sense of entitlement as the ‘Chosen People’ and the victims of what has become the West’s new state religion,’The Holocaust’, (a status that, curiously, does not apply to the Roma, the Russians or the Poles etc, the other victims of Nazi genocide, nor to the Armenians or the people of the Congo, the indigenous of America or Australia or the victims of other genocides, suffering being, plainly, far more significant when Jews suffer)it has all gone to their heads. As we all know,it was the Judeofascists behind 9/11, so convenient, so presciently predicted by the Judeofascist ‘Project for a New American Century’, as the ‘New Pearl Harbor’ needed to incentivise the US public to a new century of imperialism and just one in a long line of Mossad ‘black-ops’ designed to blame others,and, crucially, foment hatred and violence between non-Chosen populations.
    In all the ancient denunciations of Jews, surely not all simply motivated by jealousy at their matchless perfection, ‘business acumen’ and history as ‘Christ killers’, one theme always emerges. The Jews operate within societies, not as part of the wider society but as an enclave, a group dedicated to furthering its interests at the cost of the rest. Being, almost always, a small group, they had to rely on bribery and other forms of subversion. At times where the state was powerful,as under the Ottomans and other Moslem states, and where the Jews’ impulse to exploit their neighbours through usury and other business techniques, was severely curtailed, the Jews often lived in peace and amity with their non-Jewish neighbours for centuries.
    Unfortunately, where they gain the upper hand, through the money power that they have assiduously cultivated for centuries, as in the West today, they become more than a nuisance, they become a cancer in societies. Not only do Judeofascists control the politics of the West,often, as in Canada, the USA, and Australia, to the degree that they have become de facto the ultimate arbiters of policy, but they also utterly dominate the mass media, which has been reduced to a crudely pro-Israel propaganda apparatus. They are using this power to relentlessly foment hatred of Islam,setting the scene for civil strife throughout Europe, and for further massacres in the Middle East, where their policies have already caused several million deaths. All the while ruthlessly suppressing the voices of reason and humanity.Plainly they see war, strife and hatred as being factors that benefit them.
    A new,and sinister element,has been added to Judeofascist hatemongering recently. That is Sinophobia, which,in Australia at least, but I’m certain is true throughout theWest, is being led by Zionists. The motivation is pretty easy to discern.Israel controls the West, completely, thus Jews become ,defacto, what they always saw as their due-global overlords. One fly alone could ruin this ointment-the rise of China. There will never be a Confucian-Zionist claque to control China as the Christian-Zionists help control the US and the West. So China must be de-railed, come what may.The Murdoch apparatus,led by its ‘Foreign Editor’ and pro-Israel zealot, Greg Sheridan, has been attacking China as a ‘threat’ for some time, and the fever of his utterances has been rising to the hysterical, but Sheridan is a bit of an hysteric when it comes to absolute devotion to the US and Israel. China’s ‘threat’ is manifest in such sinister moves as protesting US naval operations right off China’s coast.Those damned yellow fiends!
    And right behind Sheridan is Michael Danby,the Jewish ‘Labor’ member for Melbourne Ports, and a belligerent and bellicose Zionist zealot.This creature, in my opinion one of the most sinister and dangerous men ever to enter Parliament, has been attacking local Palestinians and their supporters for years, from the safety of Parliament,and often in what I would describe as the vilest terms, the hatred and contempt undisguised.A few years ago he became an agent of influence here for that CIA asset the Dalai, and took up the Tibetan cause. Recently he added support for Kadeer, the Uighur leader considered a terrorist by Beijing.While posing as a greal moralist, and with his little mate Sheridan singing his praises as a force for ‘moral clarity’ in these attacks on China, and its territorial integrity, somehow Danby’s peerless morality does not extend to the Palestinians,or the Shia of South Lebanon. They, who suffer far greater horrors at the hands of Danby’s co-religionists than the Tibetans or Uighurs at the hands of the Chinese, Danby, of course, vilifies and traduces as ‘terrorists’. And just today, he’s at it again, comparing China to Nazi Germany and Stalin’s Russia and slandering Hugh White, who published an essay urging that we seek a middle ground between China and the USA, as an appeaser,like the appeasers of the1930s.
    I never cease to wonder at the apparently bottomless wellsprings of hatred, ambition and lust for power that drive the Judeofascists on. They already control the West, thoroughly,yet they seem determined not to peacefully rest on their laurels and just let the loot from their control of global finance, the blood diamonds trade, the huge pornography industry they so completely dominate, the human organ trafficking networks, the sex slavery networks and the high-tech industries they dominate, flow into Israel. They seem absolutely intent on annihilating Iran, probably Pakistan as well, and obliterating the Palestinians,bit by bit, with inexorable cruelty and contempt. Is this all just a manifestation of hatred for non-Jews,or is there something even more sinister at work?

  11. mary said on September 16th, 2010 at 4:33am #

    Here’s a hatemonger. He would have been at home in Nazi Germany. A man after Sarkozy’s heart too as he rounds up and deports the Roma.

    Knesset Speaker calls for closure of Palestinian refugee camps
    Wednesday, 15 September 2010 23:00

    The Speaker of the Knesset (Israel’s parliament) has called upon the international community to put pressure on the Palestinian Authority to dismantle and close all of the Palestinian refugee camps in the West Bank, Gaza Strip, Lebanon, Jordan and Syria. Reuven Rivlin believes that the refugees’ legitimate right of return poses a threat to the existence of the Jewish state. In a meeting of the ruling Likud Party, Mr. Rivlin said that as long as the Palestinians use the refugees as a political tool, a peace agreement will not be reached.

    The right of return is on the agenda of the latest round of direct negotiations between the Israelis and the Palestinians.

    http://www.middleeastmonitor.org.uk/news/middle-east/1518-knesset-speaker-calls-for-closure-of-palestinian-refugee-camps

  12. 3bancan said on September 17th, 2010 at 5:03am #

    (Errare humanum est:)
    Here’s another proof of the Jewish love for the goyim:
    http://www.uruknet.info/?p=m69835&hd=&size=1&l=e

  13. mary said on September 17th, 2010 at 5:49am #

    According to the UNRWA, only 30 truckloads of building gravel per week have been permitted to enter Gaza via the Karni crossing. At this pace, it will take approximately 15 years to bring in the 24,000 truckloads of aggregate needed to carry out 26 frozen UNRWA projects, and about 75 years (2085) to bring in the aggregates needed to implement the whole UNRWA reconstruction plan for Gaza. (Source: The Humanitarian Monitor (ochaopt.org/documents/ocha_opt_the_humanitarian_monitor_2010_08_25_english.pdf) July 2010, page 8

    DCI-Palestine has now documented five cases of children shot in their legs whilst collecting building gravel within a 50-400 metre range of the border. The available evidence suggests that these children were probably shot by soldiers manning the nearby watch towers that ring Gaza. We believe there is sufficient evidence to warrant further investigation – Voices From The Occupation(dci-pal.org/english/doc/press/Gaza%20-%20Arafat’s%20Case%20-%2010%20July%202010.pdf)

    Chronology

    22 May 2010 – Hasan (17) is shot just below his right knee, 300m from the border
    7 June 2010 – Awad (17) is shot just above his right knee, 350m from the border
    16 June 2010 – Ibrahim (16) is shot in the right leg, 400m from the border
    17 June 2010 – Israel announces an easing of restrictions on goods entering Gaza (Washington Post (washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/06/17/AR2010061700952.html )
    22 June 2010 – Abdullah (16) is shot just above his right ankle, 60m from the border
    10 July 2010 – Arafat S. (16) is shot in his left ankle, 50m from the border – Voices From The Occupation

    Please do not hesitate to contact me if you require any further information.

    Best regards

    Gerard Horton
    International Advocacy Officer – Lawyer
    Defence for Children International – Palestine Section
    Website: http://www.dci-pal.org <http://www.dci-pal.

  14. catguy00 said on September 17th, 2010 at 8:35am #

    Looks like the far right has infiltrated this site.

  15. bozh said on September 17th, 2010 at 9:20am #

    Catguy,
    People who label other people’s writing and a person with al kinds of dysphemism drive away some people whom we need badly to make the world a better place.
    The socalled Left cannot do that alone; we need also people who are neither of the RIght or the Left and also Rightists in order to impove life on this planet.
    Belittling other peoples writings amounts to denying other peoples right to be even wrong if indeed they’d make errrors.

  16. teafoe2 said on September 17th, 2010 at 9:59am #

    bozh ol’ buddy, please stop generalizing. Be specific, say what you mean. Go ahead, name names. You have a right to your opinion, so go ahead and express it. Why beat around the bush?

  17. teafoe2 said on September 17th, 2010 at 10:21am #

    Mulga, read your latest with great interest. Here in California such anti-China propaganda as you describe wouldn’t fly very well so I don ‘t see much evidence of them trying it. Chinese, along with Japanese, Koreans, Filipinos and other East Asian groups are well established in civil society and represented in government here. All are very aware that during WWII all American Citizens of Japanese ancestry resident in California were rounded up and interned in concentration camps, so any overt expression of anti-Chinese or anti-Asian racism sets off alarm bells and produces a unified reaction, not only from Asian groups but from nearly all organized social bodies.

    Of course China is the big fly in the ZioImperialist soup, so the population has to be prepared to support some form of action to contain or better yet dismantle the PRC. So we see a lot of the Dalai Lame-O, hear a lot about CCP & PRC government abuses, but also much praise for Taiwan.

    So it’s interesting that while the US and “Oz” are so closely allied, the approach to relations with China seems so different. ??

  18. bozh said on September 17th, 2010 at 12:41pm #

    Ro repeat, and possibly for new readers, labeling a person or what s/he says or writes either with eu- or dysphemistic labels and then using the new label which appears nowhere in a post written by condemned person, to prove that the person or hisher thoughts are brilliant, right, wrong, good, bad, stupid, intelligent, incoherent, comunist, fascsist, know-it-all, etcetc., is as old as the hills.
    And in reality, such behavior only tells s’mthing about the person who uses labels and not much if anything about the condemned people.

  19. teafoe2 said on September 17th, 2010 at 1:12pm #

    Bozh ol’ buddy, how do you do it! Amazing! Your ability to convert my urging you to be more specific in making your case, into me trying to deter your free speech, leaves me speechless!

    I read a lot of word-twisting, but not often do I come across somebody who has the skill developed to a degree enabling them to turn a plea for more expression of your views into an attempt to deter you from expressing same. Wow! Impressive!

    Actually I agree with a lot of your notions… …well, a few of them anyway:)

    Really, Bozh, I have nothing in particular against you or your goofy ideas, I just wish you’d express them a little more coherently, use a little more linear style of English Usage? So I could get a clearer idea of what you’re trying to say?
    Most of the time I have no idea whether I agree with you or not!

    BTW, what the fuck is a “dysphemistic”? Sounds like a fancy term for Ex-Lax…? well, whatever, Bozhy ol boy, be my guess, take some dissfammistick & have a good one!

  20. catguy00 said on September 17th, 2010 at 7:55pm #

    I’m pretty sure it is safe to assume that someone who references the Protocols is on the far right.