Nobel Politics

Since first awarded in 1901, Nobel Peace recognition went to 98 individuals and 23 organizations. Last year, another war criminal won, Barack Obama, one among many previous ones.1

Nearly always, politics, not merit, determines awards. Consider past winners, including Henry Kissinger, three Israeli war criminals (Shimon Peres, Yitzhak Rabin, and Menachem Begin), the Dalai Lama (a past and likely current CIA asset), Elie Wiesel (a hawkish Islamophobe), Kofi Annan (a reliable imperial stooge), and Al Gore, (another war criminal, neoliberal extremist, and no friend of the earth).

A celebratory Western media hailed this year’s winner, jailed Chinese dissident, Liu Xiaobo, a man New York Times writers, Andrew Jacobs and Jonathan Ansfield, called: “an impassioned literary critic, political essayist and democracy advocate repeatedly jailed (for) his activism, the Nobel Committee “recogni(zing) his long and non-violent (stand) for fundamental human rights in China.”

Long supportive of US adventurism, The Nation magazine hailed Obama’s award but said little about Liu, save for writer, Robert Dreyfuss, calling him “a Chinese dissident and author of a manifesto for human rights,” then adding:

“It’s well and good to draw attention to China’s treatment of political dissidents and its harsh restrictions on free speech, meeting, and Internet communications.” However, the award “isn’t likely to cause Chinese authorities to change their minds; if anything, it’s more likely to cause them to crack down even harder,” especially after Obama’s disingenuous September 23 General Assembly speech, talking peace and stressing human rights while waging war and defiling them at home and abroad even more egregiously than Bush.

Two Wall Street Journal editorials praised “A Nobel for China” and a “Nobel Vision for a Better China,” using the award to bash Beijing, less on human rights violations than for becoming an economic superpower, challenging America’s dominance. That’s the core issue, not pretending humanitarian considerations matter.

A Financial Times editorial called the award “A Nobel Peace Prize to celebrate,” saying:

The Nobel Committee “reinstated itself into the best traditions of the award,” recalling past winners like Martin Luther King and Burma’s Aung San Suu Kyi, but omitting names listed above and numerous other non-worthies. Saying nothing either about Western imperial wars, co-sponsored by America, Britain and Israel, topics major media accounts suppress or gloss over superficially.

Broadcasting US propaganda globally, the Voice of America was jubilant over Liu’s award, saying the Nobel Committee “issued an explicit challenge, calling on China to respect political rights as it rises toward economic great-power status.” Omitted was America’s support for wealth and privilege, not populist and human rights it disdains.

Al Jazeera’s Imran Kahn reported accurately, calling Liu’s award “controversial” and “contentious,” citing past winners like Kissinger, the Israelis and Obama, choices exalting war, not peace.

An In-Depth Alternative View

Posted October 11 on Pravda.ru, Professor Peter Baofu, headlined “The Nobel Peace Prize, and an Instrument of Western Power,” explaining what major media accounts omitted.

Saying awarding Liu doesn’t promote peace and prosperity, he gave seven reasons:

(1) Despite more improvement needed, China, in fact, “has done much to promote freedom at home in the last few decades,” in contrast to America where it’s eroded. According to Anne-Marie Brady, a New Zealand University of Canterbury China expert:

“the average person has so much more freedom than they ever had in the post-’49 period. There’s a strong feeling of ‘don’t rock the boat too far, don’t prod into sensitive areas,’ but, compared to earlier, much now is tolerated. Understandably, China resents being ‘under-appreciated’.”

(2) China has “done much to contribute to world peace and prosperity in the last few decades.” For example, it “lifted hundreds of millions of people out of poverty,” in contrast to America where it’s growing exponentially. In China, poverty dropped from 64% around 30 years ago to 16% in 2004, “a tremendous achievement for human rights” gone unrecognized.

In addition, China’s explosive growth “became a major engine of the world’s economic growth” because it depends so heavily on raw material and other imports. While it has trade surpluses with America and elsewhere, it’s in deficit to other countries. It also invests heavily overseas to build “roads, railways, sports complexes, hospitals, bridges, schools,” and other projects. Though exploiting labor, many nations and consumers benefit from Chinese low prices.

(3) Liu isn’t “an innocent defender of peace and freedom in China as popularly depicted.” For example, in a 1988 Hong Kong Open Magazine interview, he said it would take “300 years of colonialism for (China) to transform into how Hong Kong is today. I have my doubts as to whether 300 years would be enough,” he added. It caused an uproar, but he never retracted.

He was also instrumental in drafting Charter 08, a political manifesto modeled after Czechoslovakia’s Charter ’77, calling for an end to one-party rule, respect for human rights, and other freedoms.

Charter 08 principles include:

— free speech, belief, assembly and the press;
— respect for human rights, dignity, equality, and freedom;
— republicanism, democracy and constitutionalism; and
— for China to move in these directions, but not as fully as misreported.

In fact, Liu and other drafters endorse China’s ruling interests, advocating improved, but limited freedoms, to prevent a potential social eruption. The Charter warned about protests and strikes “becoming more militant and raising the possibility of a violent conflict of disastrous proportions.”

(4) Because of its growing economic strength and independence, China-bashing, opposition group backing, and saber rattling try pressuring Beijing to be more pro-Western and subservient. Though ineffective and counterproductive, it continues.

For example, years of arm-twisting hasn’t gotten Beijing to weaken its currency nor should it. Currently, just the opposite is practiced by its expanding its money supply at a 20% annual rate to prevent appreciation, despite intense Western efforts to encourage strengthening.

China knows how the 1985 Plaza Accord affected Japan. After 1989, the stronger yen toppled equities and real estate valuations, causing two decades of deflationary stagnation, what China is determined to avoid.

(5) No “one-style-fits-all” political system suits all societies equally. Liu learned Western values at Columbia University, the University of Oslo, and University of Hawaii. However, China’s history goes back thousands of years, its modern state a product of those times. As a result, it’s arrogant, offensive, and mindless to expect Beijing to abandon its traditions for Western ones that disdain principles rhetorically endorsed.

In 2009, Chinese actor Jackie Chan notably said:

I’m not sure if it’s good to have freedom or not. If you’re too free, you’re like the way Hong Kong is now. It’s very chaotic. Taiwan is also chaotic. I’m gradually beginning to feel that we Chinese need to be controlled. If we’re not being controlled, we’ll just do what we want.

(6) Western societies, especially America, have “no genuine interest in promoting the human rights of the Chinese people,” or their own. Globally, in fact, they exploit other societies much like they do internally, and wage wars when other methods don’t work.

Overall, “The West has no respect towards the ideas and values of the Non-West and has time and again indulged, since the modern era, in lecturing and dictating to other peoples (on how) to behave,” either peacefully, subversively, or violently.

Western countries, especially America, fear China as a rival, apprehensive it will supplant their supremacy through a better model, much like Asian Tiger economies did until targeted in 1997-98 to become US satellites, exploiting them through foreign investments, weakening them in the process. China has lots such investments under its rules, not others.

(7) The award “perpetuate(s) the vicious cycle of mistrust between China” and the West, mainly America. As a result, it fuels “Chinese nationalism” and reinforces internal sentiment that China doesn’t get the respect it deserves, whatever its faults.

At the least, the glass house analogy applies. More importantly, its history of Western colonization and dominance gives China justifiable reason to want more even-handed, stable relationships, and won’t tolerate less. Bashing its policies won’t help, nor is rewarding Liu, Beijing lashing out at the West in response.

A Final Comment

The Nobel Committee is a notorious Western tool. Its Peace and other awards promote unshared global values, nor should they be when for belligerence, human exploitation, and imperial dominance, principles America espouses to the detriment of other societies and its own.

Moreover, according to Alfred Nobel’s will, the award’s made to persons and/or organizations that:

shall have done the most or the best work for fraternity between nations, for the abolition or reduction of standing armies and for the holding and promotion of peace congresses.

In other words, it’s for opposing war and promoting peace. Though advocating human rights helps achieve it, those doing it focus largely on Universal Declaration of Human Rights principles, including:

— respecting everyone’s rights equally;
— opposing discrimination, slavery, torture and other forms of abuse;
— respecting the rule of law and rights to life and fair treatment;
— advocating free expression, movement, personal safety, a nationality, and right to leave and return to one’s country, as well as other human rights provisions, not specifically advocacy for peace over war.

That aside, awarding one political prisoner the Peace Prize ignores all others and the greater problem overall, aggressively suppressed because of its prevalence in the West.

Narrowly defined, America alone has hundreds of political prisoners, many, perhaps most, more deserving than Liu. Broadly defined, it has thousands — unheralded, unmentioned, and lawlessly punished.

Many other countries, including China, have theirs. Israel for one, that at any time holds up to 12,000 or more, including women and young children, unfairly subjecting them to torture, abuse and humiliation — issues Nobel Committee members ignore and won’t recognize as a way to condemn rogue practices, expose their lawlessness, and support equal justice everywhere vigorously.

Instead, choosing Liu bashes China politically. Moreover, recognizing notorious war criminals like Obama, Al Gore, and numerous others flouts peace and related free society and human rights principles, ones Nobel Committee members reject as their honorees attest.

  1. A earlier article on the Nobel Committee’s long and inglorious tradition may be accessed here. []
Stephen Lendman wrote How Wall Street Fleeces America: Privatized Banking, Government Collusion and Class War. Contact him at: lendmanstephen@sbcglobal.net. Also visit his blog site and listen to The Global Research News Hour on RepublicBroadcasting.org Mondays from 11AM-1PM US Central time for cutting-edge discussions with distinguished guests. All programs are archived for easy listening. Read other articles by Stephen.

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  1. Ismail Zayid said on October 13th, 2010 at 8:07am #

    The Norwegian Nobel Peace Committee continues its strange seletion process. Besides the clearly-undeserved Nobel Peace award to President Obama, the award to Israeli leaders like Menachem Begin, Shimon Peres and Yitzhak Rabin, with a history of well-documented war crimes, compounds this strange selective process.

    This Nobel prize deserves a more careful assessment to justify this great distinction.

  2. Gary S. Corseri said on October 13th, 2010 at 8:39am #

    A fine article…

    Just as average citizens of the world have been developing alternative media to counter the half-truths and outright machinations of the Mainstream Media, why don’t we establish our own NOBLE (not “Nobel”) prizes? The winners of this year’s NOBLE Peace Prize should have been those victims of brutality who were slaughtered or traumatized on the Gaza flotilla that was bringing food and medical supplies to the besieged people of Gaza. Other organizations worthy of a NOBLE Peace Prize include Voices in the Wilderness and Voices for Creative Non-Violence. Consider awarding the NOBLE Prize in Economics to Global Research, since one book published by that group, THE GLOBAL ECONOMIC CRISIS, does more to illuminate the current “Great Recession”–its origins and ramifications–than thousands of sanctioned pundits at CNN, MSNBC, FOX, the Wall Street Journal, the New York Times, the Washington Post, etc. Just as we have been creating an alternative to the Mainsteam Media, we must create an alternative to the meretricious “Nobel” Prizes.

  3. catguy00 said on October 13th, 2010 at 8:48am #

    The contrarians fail to mention people like Mandela and Arafat who also received the prize. Liu now is being unfairly smeared as being a “western pupper”. Chinese nationalists couldn’t have said it better.

  4. Hue Longer said on October 13th, 2010 at 10:15am #

    catguy,

    What would be the point of pointing out these people as recipients? You think that takes away from the premise of the article that Stephan didn’t? I think mentioning them serves a point about the cynicism of the awards though. If the West can co-op then bastardize a movement or message through a Nobel then they will. In a world where Helen Keller was a little blind girl who could and Martin Luther King was a guy who wanted us to get along, then removing struggle from the message of Mandela and Arafat should be easy enough to spot

  5. Mulga Mumblebrain said on October 13th, 2010 at 10:20am #

    Arafat sold out his people and received nothing in return, save to be poisoned with polonium by Sharon. And Mandela oversaw South Africa following a neo-liberal economic course that has seen, after 16 years of so-called ‘freedom’ the plight of South Africa’s downtrodden masses actually worsening, one of the greatest betrayals in history. That other arch-phony, the execrable Tutu,organised the white-wash of the ‘Truth and Reconciliation’ process that allowed some of the vilest racist scum in recent history to escape justice, and which, in truly despicable fashion, equated the violence of the oppressed with the violence of the oppressors. This waste of carbon now serves his Western admirers yet again by joining in the chorus of praise for a rotten compradore and tool of Western aggression.

  6. hayate said on October 13th, 2010 at 10:33am #

    Good article. The nobel prizes are a shoddy and crass propaganda ploy. All image, no real substance. Very zionist in that way.

  7. 3bancan said on October 13th, 2010 at 11:16am #

    catguy00 said on October 13th, 2010 at 8:48am #

    ziogatto obviously welcomes awarding the Nobel Peace Prize to people who bow to the zionazis’ diktat…

  8. teafoe2 said on October 13th, 2010 at 12:18pm #

    plaudits to Hue L, 3bancan, and especially to Mulga for the accurate descriptions of the roles of Arafat & Mandela.

    The Nobel scam gains its effectiveness by awarding prizes to people who really deserve recognition, or do so within the conventional value system of Western Civilization, for good research in particle physics, cosmology, biology etc. And also gives the Peace prize occasionally to somebody like Rigoberto Menchu. But recently they’ve been pretty careless, cheapening and delegitimizing the whole charade by giving it to the likes of B Obama.

  9. shabnam said on October 13th, 2010 at 1:53pm #

    Well said Mulga.

    Mr. Lendman forgots to mention another racist and war criminal, de Klerk who was awarded the “Noble” along with a Western enabler, Mandela, to help the West to change the nature of apartheid state in the world and stop the boycott.
    We should be forgetting that the South African economy is dominated by the zionist Jews. The fight against Apartheid state was mainly carried out by Mandela’s second wife, Winnie , while he was in prison. Winnie Mandela recently accused Nelson Mandela to be a “corporate foundation” where his main job is to raise money for ANC.
    In a savage attack, Winnie Mandela said MANDELA had done nothing for the poor and should not have accepted the Nobel peace prize with the man who jailed him, FW de Klerk.
    She said her ex-husband had become a ‘corporate foundation’ who was ‘wheeled out’ only to raise money for the ANC party he once led. She also caused outrage by endorsing the punishment of apartheid collaborators with ‘ necklacing’ – putting burning tyres around their necks. ‘You all must realise that Mandela was not the only man who suffered. There were many others, hundreds who languished in prison and died.
    ‘Mandela did go to prison and he went in there as a young revolutionary but look what came out.
    ‘Mandela let us down. He agreed to a bad deal for the blacks. Economically we are still on the outside. The economy is very much “white”.
    ‘I cannot forgive him for going to receive the Nobel with his jailer de Klerk. Hand in hand they went. Do you think de Klerk released him from the goodness of his heart?
    ‘He had to. The times dictated it, the world had changed.’
    Mrs. Mandela criticized her country’s Truth and Reconciliation Committee – which she appeared before in 1997 and which implicated her in gross violations of human rights.
    She said: ‘What good does the truth do? How does it help to anyone to know where and how their loved ones are killed or buried?
    ‘That Bishop Tutu who turned it all into a religious circus came here. He had a cheek to tell me to appear.
    ‘I told him that he and his other like-minded cretins were only sitting there because of our struggle and me. Look what they make him do. The great Mandela. He has no control or say any more.
    ‘They put that huge statue of him right in the middle of the most affluent white area of Johannesburg. Not here [in Soweto] where we spilled our blood.
    ‘Mandela is now like a corporate foundation. He is wheeled out globally to collect money for ANC.
    Therefore, the Nobel Peace Prize is a Western tool to reward their servants to expand Western’s agenda in the targeted country like Iran or China.
    Shirin Ebadi supported the Western puppet, the Shah, was awarded the Nobel Peace Prize on October 10, 2003. No criticism was written against this award, which was given to her “for her significant and pioneering efforts for democracy and human rights, especially women’s, children’s, and refugee rights.” I as an Iranian never heard of Shirin Ebadi until this award. Thus, the award is a tool to present stooges of the criminal states as “leaders” to ignorant population of the world. Ebadi has close working relations with Payam Akhavan, an NED agent of US and Canada. Payam Akhavan is the co funder of “Iranian documentation Center” in New Heaven which is connect to Yale University and is funded by NED (CIA),

    http://deathtozion.wordpress.com/2007/06/01/dear-professor-akhavan/

    and an active agent of Judeofascist organization “Save Darfur” accusing Al Bashir with “genocide” in Darfur which is HOAX according to Mahmoud Mamdani who is a professor at Colombia University and has close working relations with the United Nation. He used the US department statistic to prove that “genocide” is nothing but a HOAX.

    The zionists have used a campaign of lies and deception to partition Sudan to implement ODED YINON STRATEGY to bring Sudan and the Red Sea and the Canals including Suez under the Judeofascists’ control. The ‘progressives’ HAS NOTHIG TO SAY about Sudan where is pushed toward PARTITION ACCORDING TO ODED YINON STRATEGY.

    The fascist enablers, Mia Farrow and George Colooney are giving the ignorant population of American LIES to hold them hostage to expand the interest of the West, especially the Zionists, in the horn of Africa when George Clooney pleads for intervention to prevent war in the Sudan. The Oded Yinon Strategy is seeking partition of Southern Sudan through imposed referendum. The Judeofascists and their puppets in the south are speeding up the violence to push their agenda.

    Obama and other black Zionist puppets including Susan Rice are fully on board to keep their PETTY JOBS.

  10. ZapRowsdower said on October 13th, 2010 at 2:50pm #

    Free speech is just booming in China:
    http://shanghaiist.com/2010/10/13/update_censorship_plea_censored.php

  11. ZapRowsdower said on October 13th, 2010 at 2:52pm #

    “No “one-style-fits-all” political system suits all societies equally.”

    Speaking of a “one-style-fits-all” approach, how about the one-party style of government in the PRC? Is Lendman really arguing some peoples are just meant to be kept under a dictatorship? Amazing the positions some people will contort themselves into just to denigrate the West.

  12. mary said on October 13th, 2010 at 3:07pm #

    I would rather have a Noble than a Nobel!

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Noble_(English_coin)

  13. bozh said on October 13th, 2010 at 3:09pm #

    It does look to me that only fascists—each of which may be on dif rung of ladder to perfect fascism- get monetary rewards.
    Hand shake, obviously wld never do! How cld it in fascism; its basic nature being rewarding or elevating some people [usually a tiny minority of people] and putting dwn and punishing others.

    True, vast majority of people do not see the obvious: whenever one praises, rewards, exalts another person, one is punishing and belittling another.
    And, of course, fascism cannot thrive unless people accept the greatest snake oil ever sold and root of all evil, to boot.

    To entrap people into this morass of evil, all u need to do is herd them in some kind of prison: city, country, school.
    Simply tell children there is god and that they are living a in a great civilization; with great forefathers and culture and u’v got slaves for lifetime.

    And trns of people gladly went into battle; saluted flags, were awed at a church, king’s picture, icons, best-dressed, etc., and felt so little, but never knew why!
    There are people who go ballistic upon reading the fact that the civilization we once had had been destroyed; they’d swear to god that we are now civilized.

    Can one imagine being civilized killing children, driving cars for four hours a day, having wmd, etcetc.
    But once fascism is perfected and rules the whole planet, wmd wld be eliminated in one hour! tnx for ur Finger or Left, Right, Fascist, Wrong Ear. tnx

  14. bozh said on October 13th, 2010 at 3:24pm #

    Americans not living under stronger authoritarianism than any other people is news to me. And with chasmic social diff in earnings?
    OK?It’s true u can move ur ass around more freely but try to say s’mthing that authoritarians don’t like and it ends in trash basket.

    Free speech, but with no means to deliver it, is just lots of hot air. Tell ur boss that u’r socialist or that u hate US flag, constitution, WH and we will quickly find out how free u are.
    Yes, free but w.o. work, respect, being needed or valued. It seems that so many people use aliases because they feel imprisoned or fear the ‘just’ people! tnx

  15. ZapRowsdower said on October 13th, 2010 at 3:30pm #

    “Free speech, but with no means to deliver it, is just lots of hot air. Tell ur boss that u’r socialist or that u hate US flag, constitution, WH and we will quickly find out how free u are.”

    The difference, bozh, is that you won’t end up in prison for doing so. And there is no constitutional guarantee to a means to deliver your speech- should everyone be able to have their own printing press, TV station, radio station, etc.? At least in the States we can blog and Twitter our time away without getting censored or blocked by the national firewall.

  16. 3bancan said on October 13th, 2010 at 3:44pm #

    This is the kind of free speech that is becoming more and more prevalent in the zionazified West:

    http://www.uruknet.info/?p=m70736&hd=&size=1&l=e

  17. teafoe2 said on October 13th, 2010 at 3:56pm #

    thank you shabnam for the details about Winnie Mandela and her turncoat ex-husband. Winnie is the one who should have a statue in her honor.

  18. teafoe2 said on October 13th, 2010 at 4:19pm #

    Re K McDonald, Andrew Winkler etc: These are stooges the Zionists promote in order to discredit all anti-Zionism as racism akin to White Supremacy aka European Civilization. And to give credibility to Zionist front orgs like SPLC.

    Academic freedom of such types is way down on my list of priorities, way down.

  19. shabnam said on October 13th, 2010 at 5:10pm #

    teafoe2

    I agree with you hundred percent that Winnie is the one who should have a statue in her honor. The apartheid system and people like Tutu tried to distort her image as a smart and brave woman where brought apartheid state down by providing strong leadership for her people while working with other activists around the world. She committed her life to delegitimize Apartheid state of South Africa and she did.
    Unfortunately, “moderate Arab head of states” have no will and desire to stand together as a united force against Judeofascists to liberate not only Palestinians but the whole region. I love Winnie.

  20. bozh said on October 13th, 2010 at 5:32pm #

    Zap,
    Why in an empire– with 99.99% of its people inegalitarian– and relishing so much evil [extermination of paleo- and now neo-indians], some 180 wars-incursions, a-bombing japan; occupying much of the planet; with CIA terror, bother imprisoning its twelve dissenters, when such people can keep them jobless and a burden on their wifes/husbands or family?

    And narry a soul in the world dare even complain about it, let alone send agents to egg himher on or support himher with money?

    Even on this ‘radical’ DV i have not met a single dissenter. All just nag and use aliases.

    In add’n, china has mns of fascists, but perhaps only twelve communists or egalitarians.
    And china jumped from perfect communism to near-perfect fascism millennia ago; thus, division of people into lesser- and more-valued has deep roots even today.
    Inegalitarianism, which to me is the root cause of all ills that befall us, cannot be eradicated even in a century with 98% of its pop rendered unsane and by the ‘nobility’.

    Bolsheviks cld not do it; i.e., make humans in decades outta so many and so viciously evil people that nobility and ‘religion’ had wrought over millennia.

    Tito cldn’t do it nor other european communists.
    But i do assert that at one time prepriestly rule we all were communists and that’s why we survived.
    I do not think a tribe of people cld have survived if they hated, belittled people as we do now.
    That’s why US has strong army CIA, FBI, police. Or does one think US fears some row boats attacking US? Or even the twelve ‘terrorists’ of afgh’n?

    Anent the twelve dissident in US– no, it is not klein, zinn, chomsky, et al– i have minimized dissent on purpose to get people to understand how hopeless are the marches, movements, dissent, plaints in changing the invariance under transformation; noted by many people by saying: the more things change [size of crumbs, amount or degree of freedoms] the more things stay the same. tnx for ur Right Ear!

  21. bozh said on October 13th, 2010 at 5:59pm #

    I forgot to add also uselesness of talking about all this let alone nagging or blaming minor factors/actors and not seeing the most important factor in all this: division of people and rendering them unsane.

    I also forgot to posit that bolsheviks were demonized by US more than nazis were,
    because bolsheviks were right and not because they were wrong. Now that i think of it, even ‘jews’ don’t seem to run dwn nazis.
    They prefer to run dwn a non-threat to them; precisely, why; because muslims are not a treat to nato-us; thus, not to israel.
    If muslim posed any threat to israel. All ‘jews wld pipe dwn or join de jure US or europe.

    Btw, i don’t really know that US had criticized nazis since ’45? But even now, even mentioning a dead bolshevik, causes rage and hatred. And because? Ah, americans hate more than anything else is egalitarianism!
    Question arises, can the onepercenters forever make asses outa people?
    Curioso is that many “jews’ were communists and now ?all fascists! I wonder why? tnx

  22. hayate said on October 13th, 2010 at 7:17pm #

    Z as in zaprowsdower.

    Z as in zionist.

    :D

  23. kalidas said on October 13th, 2010 at 8:28pm #

    Hell, and there’s poor peace prizeless Bill Clinton. All he got to be was a stinking “Rhodes scholar.”

  24. hayate said on October 13th, 2010 at 8:30pm #

    “All he got to be was a stinking “Rhodes scholar.”

    But he gets hillary….

    :D

  25. Mulga Mumblebrain said on October 14th, 2010 at 12:47am #

    Zapetc is full of it, and I don’t mean wisdom. If you wish to see ‘authoritarianism’ in action look at the US Gulag of the prison-industrial system. The US imprisons more people than any other regime, mostly black and Hispanic. They serve sentences wildly disproportionate to their ‘crimes’ and vastly greater than those imposed for similar offences on whites. The rich receive suspended sentences, if any. Access to legal representation is determined entirely by the ability to pay. Moreover in many US states they are then stripped of their ‘right’ to vote.
    Inside gaol they are subjected to brutal mistreatment, isolation, sensory deprivation, physical abuse amounting to torture, use of cruel restraint including electrified devices etc. Moreover there is a growing number of nakedly political prisoners, mostly Islamic, convicted in kangaroo courts of ‘crimes’ such as sending humanitarian aid to the victims of Judaic brutality in the Gaza concentration camp.
    Overseas, as we know, the US has supported, financed and trained torturers and mass murderers in scores of countries for decades. It has imposed sanctions of medieval savagery on countries such as Iraq, where the sadistic psychopath Madeleine Albright observed, the 500,000 children under five who died as a direct result represented a price that was ‘worth it’.
    The US and every capitalist state is ‘democratic’ in name only. The US is a brutal plutocracy, with sham elections without choice and where money-power calls all theshots. An American citizen who had been trained by enemy agents in an enemy state, and returned home to agitate for the overthrow of the US system, would have disappeared into the US prison system, not for 11 years, but more likely 86 years like the unfortunate Siddiqui, sentenced to insanely Draconian punishment, by a Zionazi thug, for the ‘crime’of waving a rifle around. And, if the US had suffered over 100 years of foreign intervention, invasion, colonisation, humiliation, contempt and the murder of 10% of its population, followed by decades of threats, including that of nuclearattack, by brutal, racist, enemies who show no compunction in shedding the blood of millions, that US traitor would have been torn limb from limb by that great Yankee institution, the lynch-mob.
    Liu is, in my opinion, a traitor clearly in the service, if not the pay,of US intelligence. The Tian An Men fiasco has been clearly shown to have been a US attempt to stage a colour revolution of the type successful in Serbia and Georgia, but defeated in Iran. In China the average citizen is as free, if not more so, in his daily life, than any average Yank. But just as in the USA, when you collude with your country’s ideological and civilizational (not to mention racial)enemies, you can expect to get your just desserts. The Chinese model of authoritarian government is superior to the Western model of authoritarian government because it is more honest, because it is in reality a meritocracy, not a money controlled mediocracy or kakistocracy like the USA. Just compare the insane, moronic, ignorant and vicious cretins about to be elected by the Mad Hatters of the Tea Party to the US Congress with the scientists, technocrats, engineers etc who rise to the top in China. Better an open meritocratic authoritarianism, and all mass societies are authoritarian to more or less degree, than a hypocritical, disguised one, where power is exercised to the sole benefit of a tiny, parasitic, elite.

  26. ZapRowsdower_ said on October 14th, 2010 at 2:21am #

    The US has an incredible number of faults, but the PRC isn’t exactly a shining alternative. Your “meritocracy” is an oligarchy rife with corruption and mismanagement. The ruling Communist Party is controlled by a “tiny, parasitic elite” (exactly as you put it) that personally capitalize on the corruption inherent in true authoritarianism. It protects itself via paranoid repression of the speech of its people as explained in the link I shared above (unless you wish to believe those Communist party elders on their deathbeds are also in pay of the CIA). Your assertion that Liu Xiaobo is a CIA stooge is likewise without any evidence whatsoever. Nor was Tiananmen a simple CIA front- State Department papers declassified in 1999 give the actual perspective of the US toward China at the time of the protest, which was actually quite moderate, seeking to maintain stability:
    http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB/NSAEBB47/

    The Tea Party can rant all it wants and elect a Congress full of wackos but it will still be the educated “scientists, technocrats, engineers etc” who rise to the top in terms of quality of life in American society. Corruption and power play a role in determining one’s education and career advancement, but such corruption is universal across the globe and it similarly exists in China where the farmers (and really anyone not from major cities) are truly second-class citizens.

    “But just as in the USA, when you collude with your country’s ideological and civilizational (not to mention racial)enemies, you can expect to get your just desserts.”

    Does this mean by speaking out against American empire and for the interests of “enemy” countries like Iran which America oppresses, you likewise expect to get your “just desserts”? So far you’re on record advocating not only authoritarianism but also police crackdown on those who exercise their right to free expression in dissenting against their rulers’ ideologies.

  27. Mulga Mumblebrain said on October 14th, 2010 at 9:52am #

    Well, Z, it’s good to see your open advocacy of the US system and hatred of China. I certainly can imagine a better society than China, just as I can, just barely, imagine one worse than the USA or Israel, but for me China passes a number of tests. First it is not terrorising the rest of the world.The wealth of the USA was built up by exterminating the indigenous, utilising the unprecedented natural resources of the continent, exploiting, often to death, millions of slaves, and millions of European indentured labourers and poor immigrants and then by attacking, terrorising and pillaging much of the rest of the world.
    That US pillage was not simply achieved by military and subversive means but also by economic warfare and thuggery. Indeed the economic system maintained by the US since WW2, with the unparalleled advantage of the US dollar becoming a de facto global currency, has kept billions in poverty and causes over fifty million premature deaths amongst children every year. For a run-down on ‘excess deaths’ caused by US malevolence, I recommend Gideon Polya’s work. He establishes, pretty convincingly, that the USA has caused more excess deaths, directly and indirectly, than any other force in history.
    China, on the other hand, since 1949, has seen life expectancy grow from less than forty to well over seventy, the fastest and greatest such leap in human history. most achieved under Mao. His regime also emancipated women for the first time in Chinese history. And now the Western racists who held China in such contempt when it was weak, have the gall to demand China follows its orders. This coming from countries characterised by great inequality, rampant and growing racism and xenophobia, ruthless neo-imperial aggression in Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan and elsewhere, as if the era of the ‘Whiteman’s Burden’ had never ended, and steadily growing social pathology as manifest in epidemics of obesity,diabetes, and dementia, and the growth of industries in pornography, including paedophilic pornography (perhaps this is the essence of the ‘freedom’ you espouse) and violent entertainment. Moreover the social institutions of ‘Western Civilization’ are corrupt to the point of open decay, with the Roman Catholic Church, that bulwark of Judeo-Christian Civilization, a gigantic paedophile ring, various strands of Judaism preaching that killing civilians and child murder are ‘mitzvahs’ or good deeds and fundamentalist Protestants simply salivating at the prospect of a global Armageddon in which billions will be mercilessly slaughtered by their ‘God’. And to cap it all, the polities of the West have been captured, thanks to the money power of deranged rich Rightists, by armies of vicious, morally demented,ignorant imbeciles who have rejected science and rationality and the whole body of rationality built up since the Enlightenment. And you expect the Chinese to take orders from this vile rabble? You must be joking.

  28. bozh said on October 14th, 2010 at 10:28am #

    I thank daily my devil [it cld be ours as well if people want that] that china is banning ‘religion’, or if not, it shld be banning it. Also ‘free’ speech. or it wld be OK if we ever had it. To get it, first go to their bank and get a loan [no gates doe not have to get a lone; he just steals bns] and u can by ‘free’ speech on any private outhouse; oops, i meant, house.

    That wld be one great bane done with and forever i hope. However, on the whole, chinese people are better off than ever now. It is too bad for Al Xiabo that he’s’ eating his heart out over the fact that now women in china can walk side by side instead in tandem.

    And the poorer the chinese are, that much better. Too bad that wasn’t the case in US; as long as all of them wld be poor!.What a paradise we wld then have!! tnks

  29. bozh said on October 14th, 2010 at 10:34am #

    Walking side by side with men and not far behind them. And it is Xiabao, i think and no xiabo. tnx

  30. hayate said on October 14th, 2010 at 9:01pm #

    Russia refuses route for NATO supplies

    By: Sikander Shaheen | Published: October 13, 2010

    ISLAMABAD – Russia has formally conveyed to NATO that it would not allow its soil to be used for transporting NATO military supplies to Afghanistan while it (Russia) can only allow transportation of the non-military consignments across the border.

    Credible diplomatic sources confided to TheNation that after unknown miscreants had torched more than three dozens NATO oil tankers in Quetta last Thursday, the North Atlantic Treaty Organisation had formally contacted the Russian Government to discuss the option of using Russian land as transit route for the transportation of NATO cargoes to Afghanistan.

    Russia has reportedly conveyed to NATO that it would only allow the transportation of non-military items like food, medicines, tents and other related usable commodities and that there was not even a slightest possibility for the NATO to transport military consignments to Afghanistan via Russia.

    Sources believe that Russia’s adamant stance towards NATO military cargo is embedded with mistrust that thoroughly evolves around Russia-NATO relationship.

    Russia has had been accusing NATO of uncalled for interference in Eastern Europe since long. NATO’s presumed military aid to Georgia, Ukraine and Estonia is strongly opposed by Russia. The Organisation is reportedly instrumental in flaring up Russia over territory row with Georgia as the Western military alliance backs Georgia over its claim on South Ossetia, a disputed territory between Georgia and Russia. Back in 2008, Russian forces had bombarded Georgian cities Tbilisi and Gori and South Ossetian capital Tskhinvali, over the same dispute.

    Russia sees NATO at Ukraine’s back for not allowing Russia to use Ukraine as transit state for providing gas to Europe. It is by ‘virtue’ of NATO’s support for Ukraine that Russia and Ukraine have not so far been able to settle fiscal disputes involving the proposed gas project from Russia to the rest of Europe via Ukraine.

    Last year, Estonians demolished the monuments of Russian soldiers who were regarded as heroes of World War II. The Estonians termed these monuments as “Relics of Russian occupants.” Again, it was the presumed NATO’s involvement that stirred reaction against the Russian soldiers that were once highly revered in Estonia. In addition, NATO’s anti-narcotics ‘strategy’ in Afghanistan is strongly deplored by Russia and the country accuses NATO forces of patronising drug trade in that region.

    Options are shrinking to minimum for the NATO to consider alternative supply routes in the wake of repeated attacks on NATO consignments in Pakistan. While using Iran as transit state for carrying cargo supplies to Afghanistan is out of question for NATO, the aforementioned scenario suggests that NATO could only wish to use Russian route for its military supplies.

    http://www.nation.com.pk/pakistan-news-newspaper-daily-english-online/Politics/13-Oct-2010/Russia-refuses-route-for-NATO-supplies

    Those naughty Russians….

  31. hayate said on October 14th, 2010 at 9:05pm #

    The nobel prize was the official opening salvo, now the war begins:

    U.S. is currency war’s “tomb maker”: China economist

    BEIJING | Thu Oct 14, 2010 6:39am EDT

    BEIJING (Reuters) – The United States fired the first shot in the currency war and the rest of the world must be on guard for its deliberate strategy to devalue the dollar, a Chinese economist said in an official newspaper on Thursday.

    In a front-page commentary in the overseas edition of the People’s Daily, Li Xiangyang described the United States as the conflict’s “first maker of tomb figures,” a Chinese idiom that means someone who creates a bad precedent.

    Li, head of the Asia department at the Chinese Academy of Social Sciences, a top government think tank, said continued intervention in currency markets by developed economies would deal a blow to global economic recovery.

    Chinese leaders have warned before that loose monetary policies in the United States pose a serious challenge for emerging markets, but rarely in such strident language, a window onto the rising anger in Beijing.

    “The dollar’s depreciation may appear to be market-driven. In reality, it is a depreciation colored by very strong, deliberate actions,” Li said in the paper, which serves as the chief mouthpiece of China’s ruling Communist Party.

    The overseas edition of the People’s Daily is a smaller offshoot of the domestic edition.

    Li said the Federal Reserve’s announcement that it might soon launch another round of quantitative easing by buying bonds and other financial assets had been the key factor pulling down the dollar.

    The motives were plain enough, he said.

    Without a weaker dollar, the United States would have no hope of meeting President Barack Obama’s goal to double exports in five years, Li said.

    Dollar depreciation will also serve longer-term interests by generating inflation and easing the debt burden that the financial crisis dumped on the U.S. government.

    “If the global financial crisis was about nationalizing private debt, then in the post-crisis period the urgent need of the United States is to internationalize its national debt,” he said.

    (Reporting by Simon Rabinovitch; Editing by Chris Lewis)

    http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE69D15B20101014

  32. ZapRowsdower_ said on October 14th, 2010 at 11:00pm #

    “Also ‘free’ speech. or it wld be OK if we ever had it. To get it, first go to their bank and get a loan [no gates doe not have to get a lone; he just steals bns] and u can by ‘free’ speech on any private outhouse; oops, i meant, house.”

    Bozh, you’re speaking freely right now, unless you can’t read what you’ve just typed. As I said before everyone is not entitled to their own TV station to broadcast their opinions. Indeed, were that the case, TV would cease to be a high-impact medium because it would be oversaturated with millions of channels. The very scarcity of broadcasts and published documents are what lend them their impact.

  33. ZapRowsdower_ said on October 14th, 2010 at 11:05pm #

    Mulga Mumblebrain said on October 14th, 2010 at 9:52am

    First you accuse me of supporting pedophilia, and then you go and make a blood libel against Jews. You said it yourself, “You must be joking.”

  34. Mulga Mumblebrain said on October 14th, 2010 at 11:25pm #

    Thanks for revealing yourself completely Z,as if it wasn’t already plain that you were a Zionazi.I did forget to mention that I’ve always found that most Western critics of China are nothing but racists, and the Zionazis, always central to the current upsurge of Sinophobia, are nothing if not visceral racists. ‘Blood libel against ze Jews’..I mean how many times do you see this smear, even more beloved of the Zionazis than the mere vilification of ‘anti-semitism’, when you simply quote the Zionazis own words. The Yesha Council’s words are on the open record, as are those of many other Judaic racists and all round monsters, but the Zionazis, with practiced mendacity and arrogant contempt, simply deny them. Makes you wonder how many other stories of Judaic malevolence, dismissed as ‘blood libels’ down the centuries were, in fact, true.

  35. ZapRowsdower_ said on October 15th, 2010 at 12:24am #

    Mulga Mumblebrain said on October 14th, 2010 at 11:25pm

    Condemning blood libel suddenly makes me a Zionist? Leaps of logic are your specialty. Settler violence is a major problem, but representatives of numerous settler organizations – including the Yesha Council – are on official record condemning the use of violent acts against civilians. The acts of belligerent thugs don’t generalize to the Jewish faith, and if you think they do, then that same principle must also be applied to other faiths such as Islam. The only real racist here is you, the raging anti-semite.

  36. mary said on October 15th, 2010 at 12:44am #

    How about this settler who steered his car at the two Palestinian boys and injured them? Now one of the children has been arrested!

    Boy hit by settler’s car in Silwan arrested
    October 14, 2010 — occupiedpalestine
    [ 14/10/2010 – 11:07 AM ]

    OCCUPIED JERUSALEM, (PIC)– Israeli police arrested Tuesday one of the boys in Jerusalem’s Silwan district who was deliberately hit by the car of a Jewish man several days back.

    Mohammed Sharaf was arrested before finishing his medical treatment for the several fractures and bruises he sustained after settlement chief David Be’eri hit him and a number of other Palestinians in the Silwan district with his vehicle alleging that they were throwing stones at his car.

    Pictures of Sharaf flying in the air shown on TV before being hit a second time by the far right Jew sparked Palestinians’ outrage over Israeli abuse against Palestinian children.

    The Palestinian Prisoners Committee called on human rights organizations to step in to release Sharaf, saying Israel “engages in terrorism against the child to conceal the signs of its crime.”

    (OccupiedPalestine.wordpress.com)

    The incident on video
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G2unZIzIwp0

  37. Mulga Mumblebrain said on October 15th, 2010 at 2:28am #

    Screech on Z! The ‘blood libel’ is classic Judeofascist and Zionazi vilification, so, as I said, you’ve revealed yourself fully.Of course I don’t think all Jews or all Israeli Jews get off on killing children, just the evil ones, and there’s plenty of them. Plainly there are many fine Jews who, putting their humanity before the tribal loyalty of ‘Chosenness’ condemn the vicious crimes of their co-religionists. But in Israel and amongst the diaspora they are, sadly, a diminishing minority, and the voice of Jewry is more and more the voice of fundamentalist goy-haters and apologists for them, like you. The decent Jews are, as we all know, subjected to another species of Zionazi vilifying invective-the accusation of ‘self-hatred’. So you see, I only hate evil Jews, evil non-Jews and evil acts. Call me a ponerophobe, perhaps, but never ‘anti-semite’-it just ain’t true.
    As for ‘blood libels’, a snide device to exculpate every abominable crime committed by any Jew, you put me in mind of one of its most recent outings. That, of course, was when a Swedish newspaper had the effrontery to report the Israeli practice of stealing organs from dead Palestinians for profitable use in the human organ trafficking business. There was the usual screeching, hissing and spitting of abuse, in which ‘blood libel’ was prominent. The old tunes are the best, don’t you think? When, soon after,it was revealed that the stories were indeed true, and that Yehuda Hiss,the former (I hope!) Israeli chief pathologist was implicated in removing organs illegally from 125 bodies, the Zionist controlled media sewer’s silence was deafening.There followed revelation after revelation of Zionazi involvement in organ trafficking from Moldova and South Africa to Turkey and Brazil, with even the sainted ‘Rabbis’ involved. All dug up by real journalists, but ignored by the Western media.So much for one ‘blood libel’-it makes you think, anew, about all the others, wouldn’t you say.

  38. Mulga Mumblebrain said on October 15th, 2010 at 3:39am #

    I forgot to mention an obvious candidate for a ‘Peace Prize’ if human decency, bravery and fortitude under despicable mistreatment were the criteria, not slavish service to the US led Whiteman’s Empire of Western, Judeo-Christian, Civilization-Mordechai Vanunu. But can you imagine the Nobel creeps, with their barely credible record of despicable choices, picking a really heroic Jew, rather than a murderous one?

  39. hayate said on October 15th, 2010 at 11:13am #

    Mordechai Vanunu is a very deserving candidate. Though the nobel peace prize is not deserving of such an honour as being associated with Mordechai Vanunu, considering the level of depravity it has been attached to repeatedly in the past.