When Generals and Spies Do More for Peace than Democrats

When the CIA and elements of the Pentagon do more – much more – than the Democrats to restrain the Bush gang from plunging the planet into an even wider spasm of war, it is time to recognize the absolute irrelevance of the Democratic Party – certainly, under present leadership.

Jaws dropped in capitals all around the globe when the combined intelligence agencies of the United States yanked the rationale for war with Iran, like a rug, from under George Bush’s feet. It was a mutiny, centered in the CIA and in the Pentagon’s nine separate intelligence agencies, designed to prevent Bush and Dick Cheney from expanding, against all military and political logic, their failed jihad in the Persian Gulf. Visibly startled, Bush behaved like he’d been knee-capped by his own men – which he had. The Pentagon-CIA revolt – witnessed by the entire planet – is unprecedented in modern times. Anyone who tells you differently is too blinded by imagined spy-novel schemes to recognize a mutiny when he sees it.

This is not to say that the uniformed and civilian spooks should be given medals – they simply saw disaster of unthinkable dimensions bearing down like a semi-trailer truck, and grabbed the steering wheel from the madman-in-charge before it was too late. The intelligence agencies only look like temporary saviors of the planet in comparison to the Democratic Party, which has done nothing to put the brakes on the Bush-Cheney war machine, or to hold these criminals accountable for a phone book-full impeachable offenses. When spies and generals are more useful to the cause of peace than Democrats, when career intelligence officers and life-time military men conspire to derail the insane schemes of their Commander-in-Chief – yet the opposition party offers no resistance whatsoever – then one must accept that the Party is…worthless.

Democratic leadership has once again caved in to Bush on war spending, after last month shunting aside Congressman Dennis Kucinich’s bill to impeach Dick Cheney. Speaker Nancy Pelosi’s rationale – shared by Judiciary Committee Chairman John Conyers – is that impeachment is a diversion from all the great works that the Democrats want to accomplish in this and the next Congress. But of course, they have accomplished very little on the domestic front, and nothing on the peace front. They almost seem to enjoy their whippings – like suburban, weekend masochists in a red-light district. If this were not so – if Democratic leadership really wanted to gum up the works of war, and rail to high heaven against Bush and Cheney’s crimes – they could do so even without a working majority. One can only conclude that Democratic leadership believes that allowing Bush to keep his war going, and permitting Bush and Cheney to pile up felony upon felony against the Constitution, is good for Democrats. From a moral standpoint, that puts the mutinous spies and generals who dared to buck their president on Iran heads and shoulders above the Democratic so-called “opposition” in Congress.

For Black Agenda Radio, I’m Glen Ford.

Glen Ford is Executive Editor of Black Agenda Report, where this article first appeared. He can be contacted at: Glen.Ford@BlackAgendaReport.com. Read other articles by Glen, or visit Glen's website.

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  1. gerald spezio said on December 20th, 2007 at 6:12am #

    When we are forced to admit that our military caste and its related spying apparatus has temporarily saved us from the suicidal policies of our elected civilian “best and brightest,” the deadly precipice stares back.

    What a complete switch from the sixties novel/movie, “Six Days in May,” where the generals try to take over the “too liberal” civilian government.

    Anti-militarists and intellectuals of all stripes are shaking their heads in bewilderment, but the same murdering mad dogs in Washington and Tel-Aviv are re-grouping and re-framing their strategy to dominate the Middle East for Zionist expansion and control of Muslim/Arab oil.

    It is not just the two party system or the Democratic Party that has failed and will continue to fail.

    Republican government has failed right in front of us, and today on the MSM and DV we will witness convoluted discussions about the upcoming elections for our NEW REPRESENTATIVES who will, of course, save us from our old corrupt representatives.

    Lyndon Johnson was a great society Democrat, who was perfectly willing to exterminate the Vietnamese vermin for all kinds of high sounding humanistic principles.

    Fraternity boy Bush will work for the highest bidder, and the Zionists are willing to pay whatever it takes.
    The big oil boys & girls need only collect as the game proceeds.

    We are the schmuckery, and we have been HAD big time.

    Nancy Pelosi, our “loyal” Democratic opposition, becomes Speaker of the House, and within hours she is in the Israeli Knesset pledging her allegiance to Zionist expansionism.

    When the Lobby says; “Nancy, get down; Nancy gets down and dirty!”

  2. Harry B said on December 20th, 2007 at 10:50am #

    Yes, the intelligence agencies and the military have done better lately. Let us keep in mind, though, that ultimately the Generals must obey the orders of the President. So as long as he is in office the Commander-in-Chief can order an attack on Iran and it will be carried out. We actually wouldn’t want it any other way. We don’t want the military refusing to accept legal civilian orders and going their own way. Our Constitution, however, allows us to change the Commander-in-Chief.

    Last year I thought it was crazy; now, so much has happened and so much has been revealed that I am in favor of impeachment, starting with VP Cheney.

    For those who want impeachment to at least get out of committee and to the floor for debate, US Rep Wexler of Florida, on the House Judiciary Committee where the impeachment resolution is being held up, has set up a web site on which people can sign and be counted. He has joined with two others on the committee who want to release it to the floor: Gutierrez of Illinois, and Baldwin of Wisconsin. He has promised that he “will report back to each and every Democratic colleague of mine the true power that exists behind this movement”. (Though US Rep Conyers of Michigan, the Chairman of the committee, at times in the past has seemed sympathetic, there is a rumor that Pelosi threatened to remove him from his job if he allowed impeachment to get out of his committee. Is it possible for her to do that? I don’t know.)

    To be counted: http://wexlerwantshearings.com/

  3. hp said on December 20th, 2007 at 11:02am #

    Exactly correct Gerald.

  4. joed said on December 20th, 2007 at 11:25am #

    … and the sheeple ain’t got a clue!

  5. joed said on December 20th, 2007 at 11:35am #

    but what is truly astonishing is that the folk that do know and see what has happened to this country are not able to do ANYTHING to stop the murderous bush/cheney gang. many of those that see what has happened do not realize the seriouness of the situation. the gang has turned this country into another India, caste system and all the poverty and religous lunacy. And still the transfer of wealth from common to elite continues without a hitch. the american people seem to enjoy cutting their own throats. what a sick bunch.

  6. dan elliott said on December 20th, 2007 at 11:45am #

    Everybody should pay a lot more attention to Glen Ford and his “co-conspirators” like Bruce Dixon & Margaret Kimberly.

    My take is usually v. close to BAR’s if not nearly as well articulated. However in this piece one phrase caught my attn: “…under the present leadership”.

    Which for me raises the old question: “Can the Democrat Party be reformed from within?” With its corollary: “Is there such a thing as a “Progressive Democrat”?

    While some elements of the PDA are vigorously attacking Artillery Hillery and Nasty Pelosi, others push such as Obama and Edwards as
    “anti-War progressives who can win”. Or maybe it’s not “others”, maybe it’s the same people out of alternate sides of the mouth?

    As far as I’m concerned, and I speak as one who invested years in Demo candidates & causes, the Demockrat party is a fraud from top to bottom, from Nancy & Hillery to your local school board. All are part of the scam, with the well-meaning but ignorant dupes on the bottom rungs providing cover for the Zionist gangsters running the show.

    Nothing will ever change until there is a real electoral alternative. Whether sthg like that can be cobbled together out of the Greens, the new Reconstruction Party that’s emerged in the wake of Katrina, outfits like our CA P&F & various “Peoples” parties around the country, maybe with participation by some of the “democratic centralist” parties that have been running candidates — who knows. But unless and until there is a Party or a Bloque able to compete in the electoral arena that really represents our Class & our views, we might as well stay home.

  7. Lloyd Rowsey said on December 20th, 2007 at 12:07pm #

    Artillery Hillery and Nasty Pelosi!!! Beautiface, dan.

    It’s easy to SAY – and with a hello, to Marcelle – “let there be two, three, many oppositons…”

    Support BAR and IVAW!!

  8. When Generals and Spies Do More for Peace « The Fanonite said on December 20th, 2007 at 4:38pm #

    […] 20, 2007 Glen Ford comments on the irony ‘When Generals and Spies Do More for Peace than Democrats‘, however he makes no mention of the reason for the Democratic Party’s pusillanimity […]

  9. Mike McNiven said on December 20th, 2007 at 5:13pm #

    Mr.Ford,

    Please be very careful about those imperialist “generals and spies”! They are the trained strategists in the field of preserving and protecting this anti-human system! They are not looking after your interests! They have learned from the fall of the other empires and trying to prevent an implosion! They are against bloody interventions, not the politico-economic (imperialist) interventions! The best people strategy now is to stay away from “general and spies,” and other current rulers, and to work very hard for the founding and funding of a non- imperialist “Peoples’ Party”!

  10. greybeard said on December 20th, 2007 at 10:13pm #

    One clear observation–current Democratic leadership is clearly taking its marching orders from some other source than the people who elected them. We don’t have a two-party system–we have a narrow spectrum of thought represented by some people with blue hats, and some with red hats. But on the subject of empire (manageable, please, not suicidal!), off-shoring of jobs to maximize profits, and payment of tribute to Israel–there is no discussion. And there needs to be!

  11. gerald spezio said on December 21st, 2007 at 7:33am #

    McNiven, therefore you and your fellow Zionist cyber-soldiers can work and lobby to advance the murdering Zionist cause but with as little bloodshed as possible, especially Israeli/Zionist blood.

    According to your position, the US military caste will be more likely to murder along.

    “OHHH, it’s the BLOODY Imperialism that is causing the problems.”

    That was the original Zionist plan for Iraq, but alas it backfired big time.
    Fellow Zionist cyber soldiers, Joshua Frank and Ron Jacobs, just love your “people’s strategy for non-imperialism.”

    Solidarity forever with Israel’s expansion, and Zionism from the Nile to the Euphrates.

  12. Myles Hoenig said on December 21st, 2007 at 1:01pm #

    Do I need to point out that our generals swear an oath to the Constitution, not to their commander-in-chief? It is the duty of every soldier to resist illegal orders and policies of madmen. We see the cowardice of such men (and a few women) who wait until retirement and that extra star before they come out and say how wrong this war is. Why is it that the only opposition in America comes from these retired generals and an occasional spook? Hell, the Democrats chose General Sanchez, responsible for Abu Ghraib, as their Saturday morning spokesman! They are as much a war party as the GOP. And the ‘organized’ peace movement is gearing up to support the Democratic nominee, just as they turned a blind eye to the complicity of the Dems leading up to 06.
    That’s why we really don’t have an active peace movement.

    BTW, It’s 7 days in May, not 6, and General Scott was modeled after Maj.Gen. Edwin Walker, an extremist right winger who was real.

  13. Deadbeat said on December 21st, 2007 at 2:27pm #

    Do I need to point out that our generals swear an oath to the Constitution, not to their commander-in-chief?

    That begs the question why the “generals” didn’t go along with the CIA assessments prior to the War. Did the generals believe that Iraq was going to be a “cakewalk”? The “generals” are culpable for the mess in Iraq because they OBEYED illegals orders. Had Iraq went “as planned” they may have “obeyed” their commander-in-chief and invaded Iran. The fact that Iraq has been a miserable failure is why there was a mutiny against any incursion into Iran.

    I agree with The Fanonite, Glen Ford didn’t ask and analyze the obvious question WHY the Democrats provide NO opposition. His conclusion is merely that the Democrats are a “war” party is too easy and too simplistic. There need to be an exploration and examination of ALL of the special interest that influence these politicians so that people can mobilize against ALL of these special interests.

    Without that honest analysis any action will be weak or weaken by such special interests. Especially those special interest that have clearly embedded themselves on the “left”.

  14. dan elliott said on December 21st, 2007 at 4:46pm #

    Hmm. So now Glen Ford is to be denounced because he didn’t provide a complete analysis of the Demo Pty & the whole political situation in this particular article? I wonder if critics bothered to visit the BAR page to read what else Ford & cohorts have been publishing re the Dems?
    Upon encountering the critical comment from Mr Deadbeat, who is normally pretty sharp IMHO, I went back and reread the piece from the top. Consider again this excerpt:

    “This is not to say that the uniformed and civilian spooks should be given medals – they simply saw disaster of unthinkable dimensions bearing down like a semi-trailer truck, and grabbed the steering wheel from the madman-in-charge before it was too late. The intelligence agencies only look like temporary saviors of the planet in comparison to the Democratic Party…”

  15. Myles Hoenig said on December 21st, 2007 at 8:03pm #

    PS
    I thought it was an excellent article.

    Myles

  16. Deadbeat said on December 21st, 2007 at 11:36pm #

    Dan,

    I don’t believe my observation of Mr. Ford’s article should be described as a “denouncement”. It is clearly an observation of what is missing from his analysis. Clearly James Petras was able to provide a complete and accurate analysis weeks BEFORE the NIE was released to the public. I’m an avid reader of BAR and was an avid reader of Black Commentary when Mr. Ford was the editor there.

    Here’s a link to James Petras article …
    U.S. Miltary vs. Israel Firsters

    As you can see, while Glen Ford’s article confirms what Dr. Petras already wrote, Ford’s article is missing key information that Dr. Petras includes in his article.

    Thanks,
    Deadbeat.

  17. Deadbeat said on December 21st, 2007 at 11:38pm #

    Apparently the link doesn’t work. Here it is again

    U.S. Miltary vs. Israel Firsters

  18. Lloyd Rowsey said on December 22nd, 2007 at 8:38am #

    Deadbeat. So, Glen had weeks to hone his perspective. And my God, man, the piece was/is ON THE RADIO. What I wonder is, where is Bruce Dixon, whose attention to detail complements Glen’s perspective so well, and who would probably meet your criticism about “missing key information” if he put up an article on DV about the NIE.

    For your info, deadbeat, both Glen For and Bruce Dixon (and Margaret Kimberly) are currently the editors of BAR.

    Thanks in any case for being the first poster-person I’ve read to say that (s)he reads BAR regularly. Some writers of DV articles I’ve read have referred to it.

    Lloyd Rowsey

  19. Deadbeat said on December 22nd, 2007 at 11:28am #

    Gerald,

    Keep at it. Regardless of any censorship, getting your perspectives out is the one way to continue to confront this issue. I use to dismiss arguments about “racism on the left” and was an avid reader/listener of Chomsky. He had me believing that Zionism was restricted to Israel or that it was originally a benign nationalistic movement for a group of oppressed people. However because I was able to read contrary opinions I was able to develop my own analysis. What became obvious was the denials by so-called “left-wing” opinion makers as well as their anger toward people of color who would have affinity against ALL FORMS of racism in their analysis and perspectives.

    What really altered my views was what happened with the anti-war movement and so-called “leftist” that revealed their phoniness in 2004. I noticed that International Answer would always speak about Zionism and the issue of Palestinian rights. I noticed strong criticism about Answer coming from UFPJ and other members on the left. The criticisms was that they are “sectarian”, “disruptive”, and are turning off people because of their “ultra-left” politics.

    There may be some iota of truth to those arguments but what that criticism didn’t address is why UFPJ themselves didn’t address the issue of racism and Zionism. Is speaking about racism and Zionism “ultra-left” or are Answers critics really trying to avoid discussion of racism and Zionism.

    Thus in 2004 you saw all of the so-called “left-wing heroes” throw their support to John Kerry or the “safe-state/Anybody But Bush” strategy. People like Howard Zinn (who apparently went “neutral” on the moving train of Zionism), Noam Chomsky, Michael Albert, and many others. For all their preaching about “principles” when it came time to be counted they showed their true alliances.

    I would say that if your comments are being removed that you keep a copy of your comments so that you can easily cut and paste them back in.

  20. gerald spezio said on December 22nd, 2007 at 1:38pm #

    Deadbeat, even my post that you responded to has been “disappeared” by ” the news letter for peace and justice.”

  21. Lloyd Rowsey said on December 22nd, 2007 at 2:14pm #

    Hey, gs. I second what deadbeat said about keeping a copy of your posts. I know I have weird problem with hotmail, and it’s caused posts I intended for one article at DV to appear at a pnother DV article which I was (previously) reading. Are you certain you have seen your post at DV Article One, at Time One, and then later not found the post at DV Article One, at Time Two?

  22. Lloyd Rowsey said on December 22nd, 2007 at 6:00pm #

    gs. I am fully aware that Kim Petersen wrote: “… But when commenters start on ad hominem tirades, whatever the viewpoint, then these will be censored. It is simple as that.” The sentence is in a post following Putin Agonistes: Missle Defense Will Not Be Deployed (12.21).

    I find it deplorable that an editor of all people would choose to use the word “censored,” but were I an editor of Dissident Voice, I’d likely also curtail “protracted speech usually marked by intemperate, vituperative, or harshly censorious language ,” which appeals “to feelings or prejudices rather than intellect.” (Merriam-Webster Online.)

    On the other hand, what I was saying above is that a portion of your missing posts may be the result of your own rapid typing.

  23. Lloyd Rowsey said on December 22nd, 2007 at 6:27pm #

    Actually, gs, what I am saying NOW is that a portion of your missing posts may be the result of your own rapid typing. In my “I second deadbeat” post above, I was implying that all your missing posts were the result of your own error. Rest assured, I am not mystified. Or don’t rest assured; I do believe some of your posts include ad hominem tirades.

    At this point, I’ll settle for clarity. It’s been a long day.

  24. Mike McNiven said on December 22nd, 2007 at 10:03pm #

    Capitalism creates imperialism to survive; imperialism creates racism, zionism, fascism to survive!

  25. dan elliott said on December 23rd, 2007 at 4:28pm #

    Ahoy Kim P!

    Are you there? Just a note to wonder what happened to the last post I submitted. Any ideas?

    Henceforth I’ll take that good advice & make a copy of anything I post in one of these boxes. Beginning right now:)

    Thanks,

    Dan

  26. Shabnam said on December 23rd, 2007 at 5:59pm #

    “Capitalism creates imperialism.” Where capitalism does came from? Please Read Werner Sombart analysis of modern capitalism.

    http://socserv.mcmaster.ca/econ/ugcm/3ll3/sombart/jews.pdf

  27. duaner said on December 24th, 2007 at 11:37am #

    Hey, Shabnam. I didn’t read the entire book, but I got a pretty good taste of it. Seems like Mr. Sombart is trying to make the case that capitalism was invented by Jewish people, or at least they were the first to effectively employ business methods that we would characterize as capitalistic. I can accept that, and I don’t really have the historical chops to dispute it in any event.

    I object, however, to what you are implying by posting this link in this context: Jews begat Capitalism which begat Imperialism. Imperialism is evil, therefore the Jews begat, or are themselves, evil. To have someone indicate that they are against the evils of Imperialism while at the same time waving a racist rant like Sobart’s as something worth reading is evidence of fuzzy thinking.

    Can you hate Jews and be an anti-imperialist? Probably, but I don’t think you’d be win the Logician of the Year award. Imperialism is racism in a different guise. Instead of feeling free to hate/abuse/attack someone based on the inherent inferiority/evil of their race, you attack them because of the evident superiority of your country.

    You’re against imperialism. Good. Now go the rest of the way and renounce racism, and hatred in any of its forms.

  28. Deadbeat said on December 24th, 2007 at 11:59pm #

    while at the same time waving a racist rant like Sobart’s as something worth reading is evidence of fuzzy thinking.

    I agree with duaner. You cannot allow anger and frustration make you lose sight of what’s at stake and tread down a path that will only embolden your enemies and enable them to discredit your general viewpoint. In order to challenge and confront Zionists, especially the “Zionist left”, you must exercise strict and disciplined adherence to anti-racist principles.

  29. Shabnam said on December 25th, 2007 at 12:14am #

    Hey duaner. Werner Sombart during his lifetime was one of the influential and prominent social scientist in the world, yet today his work is not known to many. He believes that Jews were influential and had many contributions towards development of modern capitalism. He presents his historical observations to prove his theory. On the other hand, we have Max Weber’s “The protestant Ethic and the Spirit of Capitalism” which is about the influence of Protestantism on the development of capitalism. To clarify his contention on the uniqueness of the west, Weber undertook several major studies in the sociology of religions in different areas, particularly Asia, in order to understand why other religions did not generate the emergence of a modern capitalism. Therefore he believes modern capitalism has been developed in the West under certain conditions. This theory is widely known, even beyond sociological circles, few Sociologists today know that Sombart had an alternative explanation. That’s why I mentioned this book which I think is very interesting and unfortunately for political reasons has almost been eliminated from the reading list. Imperialism, as we know it and Zionism have both been developed in the West.
    I think not many people are familiar with Sombart’s work which is interesting to read and compare with Weber’s work.
    I am against all forms of racism and I believe Imperialism and Zionism are both faces of the same coin and it is necessary to understand both and reject them.
    Am I against Protestants if I had mentioned Weber’s book? I think the answer is pretty obvious. Of course not. I think you should have more confidence not to be threatened by a book title. Knowledge is very important and does not recognize border. Apparently still few people value the work of Sombart to include it in their syllabus which is great.
    Good luck.
    http://www.economics.utoronto.ca/munro5/ProtCap2.htm

  30. Mike McNiven said on December 25th, 2007 at 4:01am #

    Thanks to those who say that fighting for peace with social justice, among other things, requires a good fight against racism!

    Right at this moment, the Kurds are being murdered by the NATO member Turkey with direct US/Israeli military aid/advice! This is not an allegation, it is the confirmed news of all imperialist news services for the past several days! Yet, we are forced to read racist anti-Kurd comments because Mr. Jalal Talebani of Iraq — an ally of Tehran’s rulers — is a US/Israeli puppet! More than twenty million Kurds are harmed because of the few who are agents! That is as racist as being anti-Jew!

    Also, for the record, the rulers of Israel, UK, US, Kuwait and Iran wanted the ouster of Saddam Hussein, and they confess that they worked together to achieve that illegal goal! How the supporters of the Tehran regime can claim moral superiority about the Iraq tragedy is a hypocricy waiting for an expose!
    In a December opinion poll done in Iraq, published by the Washington Post last week, almost every Iraqi who asked for an end to US occupation has indicated a desire to see an end to Tehran’s intervention in Iraq as well! Why? Because Iraq was the most advanced/most secular Muslim country of the Middle East before the criminal US invasion of 1991! Bush, Khomeini, bin-Laden and Ariel Sharon — all reactionaries — tried to destroy Iraq! What did they had in common against Iraq? Love of Holy Capital!

    http://www.ipsnews.net/news.asp?idnews=40510

    http://www.hrw.org/photos/2007/iran03/index.html

  31. Lloyd Rowsey said on December 25th, 2007 at 8:29am #

    Hey, Shabnam. I don’t find in The Toronto University course you reference any mention of H.R. Trevor-Roper’s book “The Crisis of the 17th Century” and its classic 46-page first essay, “Religion, the Reformation and Social Change.” The book was originally published in 1956, I think, almost a decade after its author published his landmark, “The Last Days of Hitler.”

    The main thesis of the essay is that the rise of modern capitalism should be attributed to prejudice – against both non-Catholics (including a great number of Protestants) and Jews – and to their active persecution. Running from Amsterdam to Venice, the discrimination resulted in the savviest business-persons in both groups decamping from their native European countries to more favorable climes to pursue their capitalist endeavors.

    The essay is truly a delight to read and re-read, whatever one’s politics, not least because in it Trevor-Roper named names.

  32. Shabnam said on December 25th, 2007 at 4:14pm #

    It is ironic that the person who has written in his post on November 26, 2007 at 12:37am on this site “The supporters of the “Persian Taliban” are not going to like your piece.” resaves the right to present himself as an Iranian opposition who wants the well being of Iranian people. But, he can not distinguish “Persian” from “Taliban” and does not know that these two terms can not be mixed. It is like oil and water. For his information I must say that Persian is a culture like Arab culture which goes beyond the present Iran’s border. People of the Northern Afghanistan who are mainly Tajik coming from Persian culture but Taliban who were mainly Pashto and were trained in Pakistan with the help of US and money from Saudi Arabia were greatly influenced by Wahabism, the servant of Imperialism. Taliban considered Afghan in the North, are called the Northern, as their enemy and killed them in large number. That’s why the United States brought Taliban into power to place a hostile regime next to Iran. “Persian Taliban” has been introduced by the Zionists who want ignorant people think there is an enemy in Iran who rules and is “Persian” and the victims who suffer are “non-Persian” like in Sudan and elsewhere and through this campaign of lies and disinformation put one against the other to exaggerate the differences among the population to manufacture
    “crisis” to make the environment suitable for invasion. This person who presents himself as Iranian opposition and a “socialist” yet is not able to distinguish between a Charlatan and others and has posted many times an article by Hassan Daioleslam , who wants more sanction against Iranian people to keep them poor and jobless, like Iraqi people, to create tension in the society which is prerequisite for a velvet revolution to force the regime out. This charlatan has been on “Voice of America” many times in the past to present his rubbish which has attracted no “socialist” except Mike McNiven.
    http://www.losangeleschronicle.com/articles/viewArticle.asp?articleID=35885
    The Kurds have a relationship with Israel for decades now and we do not forget the moment when Wolfowitz arrived in Northern Iraq where was surrounded by Kurdish women who expressed their appreciation for the invasion by kissing Wolfowitz’s shoulder. People with Persian
    Language skill know that Khamenei and his associates were strongly against the invasion of Iraq and he gave many speeches against the invasion. It was the “reformists” who received Kenan Makiya, a socialist, and ally of the Zionist/imperialist with close relationship with
    Kurds who supported this invasion.
    http://www.parapundit.com/archives/002199.html
    http://www.antiwar.com/justin/?articleid=8361
    http://www.baztab.com/news/71453.php
    Those who want “an end to Tehran’s intervention in Iraq” are those reactionary Arabs and Kurds who want occupation to continue so they can wage a war against Iran for “greater Kurdistan” and “greater Israel” to expand their influence in the region through killing of the population?
    http://news.independent.co.uk/fisk/article47195.ece

  33. Mike McNiven said on December 25th, 2007 at 7:07pm #

    Mr.Ford, one more article with an opposite approach:

    http://www.counterpunch.org/hornberger12132007.html

  34. Mike McNiven said on December 25th, 2007 at 8:29pm #

    NATO/Israeli Generals and Spies murder some forgotten People:

    http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/iraq/2004088539_kurds23.html