Britain’s Foreign Office Surrenders to the War Criminals

The British public must be wondering what has happened to the nation’s backbone – and its moral compass – when they see news items like these.

“British Foreign Secretary David Miliband yesterday apologized to MK Tzipi Livni and Foreign Minister Avigdor Lieberman for the arrest warrant issued against Livni in London earlier this week. He also promised Lieberman to begin working immediately to change the UK laws that enable the issue of arrest warrants against Israeli officials accused of war crimes.”

Who does this foreign secretary think he is, apologising in our name for the operation of British law, especially when the warrant was issued to answer well-founded charges of war crimes?

Livni claims it was not personal. “It’s about the entire State of Israel and our ability to go on working together against common threats.”

What common threats? We have nothing in common. The threats Israel faces are caused by its racist expansion, land theft, general lawlessness and hateful attitude towards its neighbours, and by the lethal threat Israel itself presents to others in the region. Our government puts us in harm’s way by associating so closely with the regime and continually taking its side.

As for ex-night club bouncer Lieberman, a deranged loudmouth who lives in an illegal Jewish settlement in the Palestinian West Bank and thrives on extremist language, since when did he merit a British apology?

“Miliband called the warrant intolerable and said he had spoken to Prime Minister Gordon Brown and Justice Minister Jack Straw to find an urgent solution. Prosor [the Israeli ambassador in London] chastised the British secretary saying it was time the British government took action.”

Prosor “chastised” a Minister of the Crown… demanded a change to our laws? Your own laws need changing more than ours, Prosor.

“Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu’s office also released a statement: ‘We will not agree to a situation in which [former prime minister] Ehud Olmert, [Defense Minister] Ehud Barak and [opposition leader and former foreign minister] Tzipi Livni will be summoned to the bench. We utterly reject the absurdity that is happening in Britain.’”

Get your tanks off Palestine’s lawn, Netanyahu, and your squatters off Palestinian land before you criticize anyone else.

The Israelis’ arrogance is breath-taking. Livni would gladly repeat the atrocities in Gaza last December-January. Her office issued a statement saying she was proud of Operation Cast Lead. And speaking at a conference at Tel Aviv’s Institute for Security Studies, she said: ”I would today take the same decisions.”

Leave the law on arrest warrants alone

Miliband’s grovelling, especially to the Lieberman and Livni, is enough to make any red-blooded UK citizen cringe with shame. Few of us, surely, would touch these people with a barge-pole.

This abandonment of principle and descent into the abyss is explained in the Foreign Office statement: “The UK is determined to be a strategic partner of Israel.”

Why? I have always wanted to know how this serves our best interests.

The law on arrest warrants, of course, should be left undisturbed. It’s all quite simple. If Israel behaved in a civilised manner there would be no need for them.

This diplomatic ruckus helps us to see clearly the lunacy of stacking the British Foreign Office with Israel-lovers. There’s Miliband, of course, with his ethnic links. He voted enthusiastically for the Iraq war and against an investigation.

Then there’s our minister in charge of Middle East affairs, Ivan Lewis. He’s a former vice-chairman of Labour Friends of Israel. He too voted for the Iraq war and against any investigation. In January, with the sickening stench of Israel’s blitzkrieg on Gaza in the world’s nostrils, Lewis told a rally in Manchester: “This community stands shoulder to shoulder with the people of Israel in the good and the bad times. We do not apply double standards to Israel…”

The trouble is, his kind don’t apply any standards at all.

In July, with the blood of 1,400 dead Gazans (including 320 children and 109 women) on the hands of the Zionist devils, and with thousands more horribly maimed, the insensitive Lewis told the House of Commons: “Israel is a close ally of the UK and we have regular warm and productive exchanges at all levels.”

Lewis is also chief executive of the Manchester Jewish Federation and a trustee of the Holocaust Educational Trust. Along with Miliband, he is the face of British diplomacy in the explosive Middle East.

Add to the team Miliband’s Principal Private Secretary, Matthew Gould, just promoted as Britain’s first Jewish ambassador to Israel with effect from next year. Gould told Haaretz that he and his wife will keep a Jewish household and bring up their kids in the Jewish tradition. “The fact that I’m Jewish means I will come with a particular insight and sympathy and understanding, because the story of my family is in certain respects the story of the people of the State of Israel. But fundamentally I’m going as the British ambassador, to pursue British policies and advance British interests.”

That’s difficult to believe, and some will point to a hopeless conflict of interests not only for Gould but also Miliband, Evans and others who feel an affinity with the appalling “story” of Israel.

Presiding over all this is our disaster-prone prime minister Gordon Brown, a Zionist sympathizer and patron of the Jewish National Fund, which is an organization set up to facilitate the confiscation and development of illegally occupied Palestinian lands.

As if to illustrate just how far Britain will go to appease Israel’s ‘Criminal Tendency’, the Jewish Chronicle reported a few days ago how the Foreign Office stamped on an initiative by the Department for Communities and Local Government to reassure the Muslim community that the British government did not support Israel’s actions in Gaza. Foreign Office officials considered it pandering to the Muslim community’s prejudices about Israel, especially when it was discovered that some Muslim leaders around the country wanted the government to recognise Hamas’s right to armed resistance. Tut-tut. Oh dear, no. Everybody knows that only Israel is entitled to self-defence. And Britain panders only to Israel.

British-Jewish MP Sir Gerald Kaufman recently threw a bucket of cold water over this obscene Anglo-Israeli love-in by branding the Israeli government a gang of amoral thugs. These are the undesirables Miliband wants to accommodate with a change in the law. Well, I doubt if the British public would welcome the idea of such vile people, who think nothing of burning women and children to the bone with white phosphorus, coming and going as they please in our capital city.

These same thugs won’t even allow thousands of Palestinian students like Berlanty Azzam the freedom to travel within their own homeland to attend university and finish their degree.

Stuart Littlewood, after working on jet fighters in the RAF, became an industrial marketeer in oil, electronics and manufacturing, and with innovation and product development consultancies. He also served as a Cambridgeshire county councillor and a member of the Police Authority. He is an Associate of the Royal Photographic Society and has produced two photo-documentary books including Radio Free Palestine (with foreword by Jeff Halper). Now retired, he campaigns on various issues, especially the Palestinians' struggle for freedom. Read other articles by Stuart, or visit Stuart's website.

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  1. Michael Kenny said on December 17th, 2009 at 10:26am #

    One of the fundamental principles of criminal justice is that your are prosecuted for an offence in the place in which the offence is committed. There’s no reason why Livni or Lieberman (undoubtedly the world’s most inappropriately named person!) should not be prosecuted in England for an offence committed in England, but it would be a gross injustice to prosecute them or anyone else there for offences committed elsewhere. Mr Littlewood is asserting the “Guantanamo principle”, which is the very antithsis of the rule of law and human rights. I’m sure Israel will applaud him.

  2. Mary said on December 17th, 2009 at 10:43am #

    You should be made aware that under International Law, The UK Government is one of the High Parties under the Geneva Conventions Act 1957 and has certain rights and responsibilities.

    One of its duties under the Fourth Geneva Convention is to ‘seek out and prosecute’ alleged war criminals. Under the Geneva Conventions Act 1957, the UK has universal jurisdiction to arrest and try suspected perpetrators of “grave breaches” of the Fourth Geneva Convention 1949 (IVCG). War criminals should be pursued – Britain must not become a ‘safe haven’.

    The British judicial system is meant to be completely independent and the government’s role is not to intervene. If a judge believes there is sufficient evidence for an arrest warrant to be granted, it is irrelevant whether this embarrasses or causes problems for the British government.

    The Goldstone Report detailed war crimes and potential crimes against humanity committed by Israel in Gaza . It was shameful that the government abstained on the vote for the Report at the UN Human Rights Council and General Assembly.

    Instead of responding to pressure from the Israeli government to end the right to charge and prosecute war criminals, the government should immediately change its position – it should be supporting international law and justice, and act itself to uphold the Fourth Geneva Convention.

    Britain cannot be a true and independent ‘partner’ for peace if its policies are one-sided, and it allows those responsible for war crimes against Palestinians to avoid justice.

    Tzipi Livni is just the latest in a list of Israelis who have come under scrutiny over allegations of war crimes. Our government should reflect on this, and change its foreign policy, including ending its arms trade with Israel . She is not an Israeli minister.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fourth_Geneva_Convention

  3. Mulga Mumblebrain said on December 17th, 2009 at 11:10am #

    The reality of Judaic control of the West is nowhere more plain than here. As soon as one of the terrorist Israeli leaders (herself the daughter of an earlier Judaic terrorist) from the Gaza atrocities is threatened with international law, the terror-state issues orders to its UK puppets, who fall over themselves to obey in the most obsequious manner possible. The orders from the Supreme Beings are reinforced by one of the Elect, Miliband, himself, without any media figure daring to comment on the irony. If an Islamic minister were to convey direct orders from Saudi Arabia to interfere in the UK judicial process, the UK media sewer would erupt in fury, but when that force that so nakedly and unashamedly controls the politics of the West acts, they fall in like the abject sycophants to power and arrogance that they so plainly are. And they will, as ever, deny the reality of arrogant Judaic control of their countries, expressed with ever growing contempt for their goy servants, until the cows come home. Dare for an instant to mention the reality of power control in the West, and your career as an overpaid propagandist will dissolve in a fury of hissing and spitting accusations of ‘anti-Semitism’ and ‘support for terrorism’.

  4. Kim Petersen said on December 17th, 2009 at 12:53pm #

    Michael Kenny,

    With all due respect, you assert a fundamental principle of justice. Your principle would pretty much shut down the Hague, the ICC, Nuremberg, Tokyo, etc. Trials are set up all the time (rightly or wrongly) away from where the crimes were alleged to have been committed.

    Also it is not at all similar to the “Guantanamo principle,” which you assert it to be because Israeli officials are not being snatched from their homelands and shipped abroad. Israeli officials have the choice to stay at home to avoid prosecution.

    Israel is snatching people from abroad and trying them in Israel (where their crimes were not perpetrated — e.g., Adolf Eichmann, John Demjanjuk), so why not speak as well to Israeli violations of the “Guantanamo principle,” as you call it?

    Israeli officials decry what they themselves practice.

  5. jon s said on December 17th, 2009 at 1:35pm #

    Kim,
    Only Eichmann was “snatched”, way back in 1961, and that was a unique case, given the enormity of his crimes. Demjanjuk was legally extradited.

  6. Carlyle Moulton said on December 17th, 2009 at 2:02pm #

    I think we put too much of the blame for the mess in the middle east on Israel and its leaders and citizens and too little on the UK and the USA and on their leaders and citizens.

    Israel would not have succeeded in its colonial project except for the help given it firstly by the UK and then by the USA. Surely it is time that the Palestinian resistance realized that the UK and the USA are more appropriate targets for military action than is Israel.

  7. Carlyle Moulton said on December 17th, 2009 at 2:42pm #

    “We will determine who comes to this country and the circumstances in which they come” . This is a statement made by John Winston Howard former prime minister of Australia, man of steel and good friend of George W Bush. He made this statement prior to the Australian election in 2001 to express his determination to keep out of Australia unwanted immigrants arriving unlawfully by boat with their spurious excuse being that they were refugees fleeing places like Afghanistan, Iraq and Iran where they felt their lives to be under threat. The particular instance that prompted him was the rescue by the Norwegian cargo ship MV Tampa of unlawful migrants headed to Australia but whose boat sank. The captain of the Tampa picked the people up in Indonesian waters but tried to offload them in the Australian territory of Christmas Island. After this vigorous defense of Australia’s borders against unwanted arrivals, public opinion swung strongly towards the Liberal/National Party coalition and the coalition was reelected.

    I am certain that Palestinians in Palestine between 1918 and 1947 would like to have been able to make the same announcement, unfortunately for them they were not. The sovereignty of Palestine was in the hands of the British and they did not exercise it to protect the interests of non-Jewish Palestinians. They allowed Jewish immigration both legal and illegal which most Palestinians opposed on a basis that the newcomers would displace them and steal their land. The Palestinians who feared this turned out to be correct.

    Unfortunately for the natives of America who were there in the sixteen hundreds and for the natives of Australia in 1788, they failed to protect their borders against the arrival of boat people to their and their descendants misfortune.

    Just before the Israeli war of the declaration of the state of Israel, the majority of the population of the area that became Israel was non Jewish and were they allowed to remain a majority of any democratic state to come would have stopped further Jewish immigration on the principle of protecting borders invoked by John Winston Howard. However in their “war of independence” the Israelis expelled enough of the Palestinians to make Jews a majority in the new state. today the term “ethnic cleansing” is used to describe such a forced exodus. Israeli state justification mythology has it that the Palestinians fled because broadcasts on Arab nation’s radio told them to do so. In fact Jewish death squads killed enough of them to encourage the others. If Arab radio stations did broadcast warnings it is because they knew of these Jewish intentions.

  8. DavidG. said on December 17th, 2009 at 4:41pm #

    So, not only is the U.S. controlled by Israel but so is the U.K. It’s amazing that this pissy little country pulls so many strings.

    I guess their control of vast amounts of money, the MSM, and their over-representation in the Governments of the world probably explains it. The confusion by Christianity that Jews are somehow Christians helps to further the Jewish cause.

    When is Israel, and the nations that support its brutality, racism, fanaticism and threat to world peace, going to be put in their place?

  9. Kim Petersen said on December 17th, 2009 at 5:13pm #

    jon s,
    In the case of Demjanjuk, “legally extradited” is a euphemism for “snatched.” At any rate, he is being tried for crimes not committed in Israel, and that was the main point.
    And as for “enormity of crimes,” I submit that 1400 slaughtered Gazans is enormous.

  10. Ismail Zayid said on December 17th, 2009 at 5:32pm #

    There is nothing new about British officials’ support for Israel and Zionism. Its history goes back from Palmerston, Balfour and Churchill to Blair and Brown. The statements and actions of Miliband and Brown, in defending Livni and other Israeli leaders who were instrumental in the massacre and war crimes committed in Gaza, are a continuation of this process, no matter what British judges or courts may say.

  11. Mulga Mumblebrain said on December 18th, 2009 at 2:03am #

    In my opinion, the establishment of an openly Judaic cabal controlling UK foreign policy is a new and dire development in UK politics. No longer content to pull the strings behind the scenes through financial control, as revealed by Blair’s reliance on Judaic fundraisers, the Herrenvolk have now moved to open control, directly. And, naturally, it passes unremarked in the sewer of the mainstream media that Jews, who could never be accused of ‘divided loyalties’ as the absolute supremacy of their fealty to Israel is starkly apparent, like Miliband, act as enforcers within the so-called UK Government, for their first and truest love, Israel.
    One must pay tribute to the audacity, the single-minded determination of the Judeofascists in taking over the Western powers, the US and the UK (and Australia also, for what it is worth) in particular,and the craven cowardice and moral imbecility of their goy collaborators. Of course this power rises from Judaic money power, the absolute corruption of Western money politics, the moral insanity of Western elites and the utter certainty that the worst Jews hold in the absolute supremacy of Judaic tribal beliefs and practises. And this insane situation, where the entire edifice of international law and humanitarian law, such as they are, is daily degraded, abused,held in open contempt and steadily destroyed by one tiny,Messianic, infinitely arrogant,racist state, and the very worst elements of Jewry and their goy collaborators, seems certain to continue and steadily worsen.

  12. Mary said on December 18th, 2009 at 5:34am #

    Yes indeed Mulga. We have articles in the Jewish Chronicle complaining about Redress and Gilad Atzmon, another attacking the protesters who crashed the JNF meeting, an article by Lord Pannick on arrest warrants and news that the Attorney General (recently fined £5,000 by the way for breaking the law on employing an illegal immigrant as a maid) is going to visit Israel in January. The maid got charged of course.

    http://www.thejc.com/news/uk-news/25128/anti-israel-attacks-spread-across-web
    Anti-Israel attacks spread across web
    By Martin Bright, December 17, 2009
    Anti-Zionist activists are increasingly turning their attention to a web-based de-legitimisation campaign against Israel rather than high-profile public protests against individual politicians…….

    They do not like it ‘up em!

    Martin Bright used to be the New Statesman Political Editor but now shows his true colours on the JC. He set up ‘New Deal for the Mind’
    (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martin_Bright) Lord Puttnam called the event “a remarkable moment in history” For luvvies and friends of Nu Labor possibly but over one million unemployed school leavers might not concur.

  13. jon s said on December 18th, 2009 at 7:38am #

    Kim,
    There’s a big difference between a kidnapping and an extradition. The Eichmann case was ,as I said , one-of -a -kind, and does not reflect any “policy”. You could have simply admitted that you were mistaken regarding Demjanjuk.
    1400 deaths in Gaza is indeed horrible. The leaders of Hamas bear a large degree of responsibility, and should be held accountable for their crimes.

  14. kalidas said on December 18th, 2009 at 8:35am #

    And of course there is the Jewish communities who, with the exception of the rarest of individuals, live exclusively under the “don’t ask, don’t tell” principal.
    (tell us what we already know)

    So far this seems to work very well for them.

  15. kalidas said on December 18th, 2009 at 4:14pm #

    Well then Ernst Zundel is a one of a one a kind.

  16. Kim Petersen said on December 18th, 2009 at 5:06pm #

    jon s,
    I agree with you 100% that those who commit crimes “should be held accountable for their crimes.” If Israel and its officials are held accountable for their crimes against Palestinians, then Palestinians, and groups such as Hamas, wouldn’t have to resist. The occupation would be ended, the right of return would be upheld, reparations would be paid, and stolen land would be returned.

  17. russell olausen said on December 18th, 2009 at 5:20pm #

    The people who sought for power and then intellectualized nuclear processes with the bomb as their first product are linked to Zionism. With this fact showing a bent of mind why the wonder that less powerful groups would see danger in a group with such resources. The actions of Hitler must go down as the most insanely stupid response to power envy in the history of the world. People who are out thought often react with thoughtless vengeance and that leads to new payback such as codified hate and thought crime. It would be most interesting to get our Asian brothers opinions on these insane European cockups.

  18. Mulga Mumblebrain said on December 19th, 2009 at 4:43am #

    jon s is back to his old tricks, the sure trademark of the Zionist apologist, of, to be diplomatic, being fast and loose with the truth. Hamas has virtually no responsibility for Israeli crimes in Gaza. Israel began throttling Gaza as soon as they evacuated the infestations of illegal Israeli colonists in 2005. After withdrawing to the walls of the concentration camp, they began inflicting an illegal blockade on the populace, a crime of collective punishment under international law, but when did mere goyish international law ever apply to the Chosen People, eh jonno? Not to forget the bombings, the artillery attacks, the death-squad raids and the psychopathic barbarity of the nightly supersonic overflights that have so traumatised Gaza’s people, particularly the children.To blame Hamas for Israeli crimes against humanity in Gaza is exactly akin, in my opinion,to Germans accusing the Jews of the Warsaw Ghetto for bringing destruction upon themselves. That is not the only manner in which the Israeli and Judaic extreme Right resembles the Nazis, and racist settler societies like apartheid South Africa, and it is a very great shame and disgrace.

  19. jon s said on December 19th, 2009 at 10:34am #

    Kim,
    If the Hamas were held accountable for their crimes , Israel wouldn’t have to exercise the right to self-defense. Their crimes include: the repeated firing of rockets and mortars at the Israeli civilian population;
    the use of their own people as “human shields”; using mosques, schools, UN facilities and residential areas as launching sites in order to “invite” Israeli counter-strikes on those sites; wholesale executions of Fatah activists; the abduction of and imprisonment under illegal and inhuman conditions of Cpl. Gilad Shalit.

  20. jon s said on December 19th, 2009 at 10:41am #

    Mulga,
    Pay attention to “comments etiquette” which you are clearly violating, in your Anti-semitic smears and your personal attacks . I’m not your friend, so don’t invent nicknames for me.

  21. Noisy Tappet said on December 19th, 2009 at 11:11am #

    jon s blames Hamas for: “…the repeated firing of rockets and mortars at the Israeli civilian population…”

    He forgets to add: “… who have built on the remains of Palestinian villages that Jewish terrorists seized at gunpoint (e.g. Najd, where the Israeli township of Sderot now stands) and ethnically cleansed.”

  22. jon s said on December 19th, 2009 at 12:42pm #

    Noisy,
    There were hundreds of Palestinian villages in what is now Israel, and obviously, the refugee problem needs to be addressed as part of the solution to the conflict. That still doesn’t justify intentionally targetting the civilian population, as the Hamas terrorists do.

  23. Noisy Tappet said on December 19th, 2009 at 1:58pm #

    Oh, and why not? They are living comfortably on stolen land while the people they forced off it, and their descendants, are eking out a miserable existence in refugee camps. No better excuse for firing a few whizz-bangs, surely.

  24. jon s said on December 19th, 2009 at 2:25pm #

    The oft-repeated contention that Zionism is akin to 19th-century European colonialism is simply wrong. There are some superficial similarities, but the differences outweigh the similarities.
    Zionism indeed arose in Europe, and originally endeavored to bring a largely European ethnic group to settle in the East, while taking advantage of the weakness of the local authorities (the Ottoman empire, at the time).
    But:
    Colonialism was designed and directed by the “mother country” (Britain, France, etc.),for the benefit of the mother-country. Zionism had no mother-country which sent and supported the immigrants. In colonialism profits were extracted from the colony and repatriated to Europe. In Zionism investment in Israel and any profits, stayed in Israel and were largely re-invested, for further development.

    Moreover, Zionism was based on the idea that the Jews were returning to their ancestral homeland. No British settler in India, or French settler in Algeria, had the idea that they were re-connecting with their historical roots. The Jews did not come as foreign conquerors, and were not accompanied by an army and a navy. While colonialists could simply take land by force and drive out the existing population – the Zionists purchased land at the going price, from Arab landowners, at least until 1948.

  25. Noisy Tappet said on December 19th, 2009 at 2:27pm #

    If you were in their shoes, torn from your home and put to flight, you’d be singing a different tune. Your lot don’t even have an excuse for firing high explosives into Gaza. I see your naval thugs have again been shooting up Gazan fishing boats. WHY?

  26. jon s said on December 19th, 2009 at 2:37pm #

    The past year, since Cast Lead, has been relatively quiet, on the Gaza-Israel border. Similarly the Hizbullah in Lebanon has observed the cease-fire since the 2nd Lebanese war. In both cases the Hamas and Hizbullah know that if they attack , they will be hit back, hard. It’s called deterrence.

  27. Noisy Tappet said on December 19th, 2009 at 3:15pm #

    Quiet? You’re not keeping up. There are air raids almost daily and numerous tank incursions. People are being abducted from the West Bank on a regular basis. If the Palestinians did any of that there’d be another blitzkrieg shoah.

  28. jon s said on December 19th, 2009 at 11:05pm #

    I wonder where you get your information from. The the Gaza border is relatively calm. It may be deceptive, it may be the proverbial calm-before-the-storm , but still.. The West Bank is enjoying a period of relative security ,economic development, even prosperity.

  29. Mulga Mumblebrain said on December 20th, 2009 at 1:22am #

    As ever always the Zionist disinformationist, your observations are false jon. Gaza was quiet before the child-murdering orgy of ‘Cast Lead’. By the way, jon, what particular Biblical injunction is behind the targeting of children, the launching of the cowardly (Zionists are murderous and gutless cowards)attack timed to catch the school-kids on the streets after classes, the slaughter of whole families and the use of white phosphorus against them? Please feel free to lie about any or all of these. I know it is pathopsychologically important for Zionists to lie and distort the facts.
    In the world of truth and facts, terra incognita to Zionists, Hamas had ceased its retaliatory sky-rocket attacks before the November 4 attack by the Herrenvolk that was the calculated pretext for ‘Cast Lead’. After the outbreak of violence Hamas offered another truce, but the Master Race were interested only in a Biblical massacre. This came, as the world recalls, after years of Zionazi sadism, in the form of the illegal siege, periodic massacres, bombings, death-squad assaults and their sadistic, exquisitely and calculatedly vicious tactic of supersonic overflights. These atrocities killed hundreds of Gazans and made life Hell for all, but, I know,jon, in your racially supremacist world view, where ‘precious Jewish souls’ outweigh those of the goy untermenschen by hundreds to one, the death of a few Jews in Hamas retaliation is all that matters. The Gazan deaths, being of ‘two-legged animals’, are simply forgotten, matters of no importance beside the deaths of the Chosen Ones, so they have disappeared down Orwell’s ‘memory-hole’ thanks to the Zionist controlled Western media.
    The facts are identical with Hezbollah, which honours its truces, unlike the Herrenvolk, who are religiously disinclined to keep any undertakings made to the untermenschen. Israel will never attack Lebanon on the ground again, because,like racist cowards, they don’t like getting beaten by people they regard as animals. Israel’s next gutless aggression will be from the air, as usual, targeting civilians, as usual. But Hezbollah will answer in kind, with rockets, if not, alas, in degree. If they could you would see real deterrence, because the Israelis, like all bullies throughout history, can dish it out, but they don’t like copping it.

  30. Mulga Mumblebrain said on December 20th, 2009 at 1:33am #

    jon, what rule of ‘etiquette’ allows you to repeatedly lie about the barbaric treatment of an entire people, by another people driven by delusions of absolute supremacy to the rest of humanity?

  31. Mary said on December 20th, 2009 at 7:46am #

    Well said Noisy Tappet.

    This is an excellent reprimand to the BBC Head of News Helen Boaden from a medialens contributor. Perhaps you can see why we call it the ZBC especially after their refusal to broadcast the DEC appeal for Gaza after the shoah Cast Lead.

    13 days in – BBC silence on Viva Palestina convoy, despite massive coverage elsewhere
    Posted by The Editors on December 20, 2009, 2:20 pm

    Dear Helen Boaden

    I think that it is part of the BBC charter and the basis for its privileged position in the media world, to bring news to the people of the UK in particular, and the wider world through the BBC World Service.

    This message constitutes a complaint about the total absence of news so far about an event which merits news coverage on any criteria. This event is a human response to one of the most momentous evils perpetrated in recent times, namely the attack by Israeli defence forces against Gaza nearly one year ago.

    In the unlikely event that you are not personally aware of it, a large convoy of trucks, vans and ambulances left the UK on December 6th and has been travelling through Europe in order to deliver life saving supplies to the people of Gaza. 13 days into this journey, the BBC has yet to cover the 200+ vehicle Viva Palestina convoy.

    With massive media coverage in Greece, Turkey and other parts of the world, the absence of coverage by the BBC requires an explanation. Some cynics and sceptics will say that you are afraid of the Zionist lobby which is known to exercise unaccountable power. Whatever the reason, you should be ashamed of your dereliction of duty.

    The convoy is scheduled to reach the border with Gaza on December 27th. Public interest is intense. One of the online maps of the journey (readingpsc.org.uk/vp3) has received 500,000+ hits in the first 2 weeks alone.

    There is still time to put this right, in this season of peace and goodwill, which is supposed to be extended to all men (and women). Please do so and recover something of the BBC’s fast declining reputation.

    Yours sincerely

    Colin Archer
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    PS The salaries of some of the executives are listed here. (www.guardian.co.uk/media/2009/jun/25/peter-salmon-bbc-salary)
    ‘Alan Yentob, the BBC creative director; director of future media and technology Erik Huggers; director of news Helen Boaden; and director of marketing, communications and audiences, Sharon Baylay, were on the next highest amounts of between £310,000 and £340,000’.

    and here is an absolutely brilliant video that the Reading PSC have made showing the silence of the double acts who present the BBC 24 hour news programme.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wmoeBlKzy9Q

  32. Mulga Mumblebrain said on December 20th, 2009 at 3:39pm #

    jon, you posted this stuff before. While I am sure that there are some Jews who see the concept of ‘Chosenness’ in some metaphorical sense, it is beyond doubt that many Jews do not. I have quoted Rabbi Kook the Elder, no insignificant figure as a Chief Ashkenazi Rabbi of Palestine, as to the innate superiority of Jewish souls to those on non-Jews, and similar opinions abound throughout Jewish history and today, both within Israel and in the diaspora.
    Then we have the irrefutable evidence of Jewish behaviour, in the actions o fall Israeli regimes since 1948 and Zionist and other Jewish organisations throughout theworld. Israel has been incessantly aggressive since its birth is violent aggression and ethnic cleansing by massacre and terror in 1947-8. It never keeps its undertakings, it treats its residual Arab population as third-rate, it demands recognition as a’Jewish state’, an open admission of its racially preferential, ie apartheid, nature and it has barbarised an imprisoned population of millions in the Occupied Territories since 1967. It occupied South Lebanon, which it sexpansionist ideology claims as Jewish property, from 1978 to 2000, when heroic resistance by Hezbollah ended a brutal, racist, occupation.
    Israel is the centre of attacks on the international system of humanitarian law, which it treats with open contempt, and,a swas witnessed by the hysterical attack on Goldstone, it tolerates no criticism of its brutality even from its own people, let alone the rest of decent humanity.
    To deny the reality of Jewish control of Western politics is crass and ludicrous. We see it every day as the US and its NATO stooges fulfil Zionist policy in Iraq, Afghanistan,and Pakistan and as they ceaselessly threaten Iran.We see it as the Western political class fall over themselves to lick any Zionist posterior offered, as Jews continue to contribute 50% of all US political donations and as they openly brag, as the Chicago Jewish News did in October 2008 that Obama is totally controlled by Zionists. The Western media is biased to Israel to a degree that is pathological, and to deny that fact, akin to denying that the sky is blue, takes real chutzpah.
    So jon, please spare me your humbug, and the boring smear of ‘anti-Semitism’. I see Jews as just the same as the rest of humanity, and when they kill children, deliberately, cruelly and wantonly, then lie about it, then I despise them. When they act decently I have not, and cannot, have any quarrel with them.

  33. ismael butt said on December 20th, 2009 at 5:38pm #

    i feel we should all be concerned as to what will happen on 28th february 2010,the jewish festival of purim ,which commemorates the victory of the jews over the persians who tried to wipe them out.

  34. Mulga Mumblebrain said on December 21st, 2009 at 3:13am #

    ismael, we only have the testimony of Judaic religious mythology as to the events commemorated at Purim. As we know the stories of the Exodus, the kingdom of David and Solomon and much more besides have been shown to be nothing but myths, although predominately violent and murderous myths. So we have no evidence that there really was a plot against the Jews, that Haman even lived and that 70,000 of his followers (equivalent, in terms of a percentage of the population then extant to hundreds of thousands, if not millions, today)were butchered in an orgy of revenge.What remains, as in the descriptions of the ethnic cleansing and genocide in Canaan and the indiscriminate slaughter of the Passover, is a religious adoration of murder and destruction. Of course decent Jews do not wish to repeat these, admittedly mythical, massacres, but the Judaic and Zionist fundamentalist Right, in religion and politics, makes no effort to hide the fact that they do.jon pretends that such creatures are on the fringes of Israeli and Judaic life, but as we know, that is not so. Just recently, in the New York Times, one could read where one of Netanyahu’s flunkies said, of Iran, ‘Think Amalek’, and, as we know, the ‘Amalek’ are a people sentenced by the Judaic God to total extermination. So we have the extreme Rightwing regime of a Messianic terror state openly threatening Iran with Biblical annihilation, yet the Zionist controlled sewer of the Western media ignores it entirely, and instead continues to peddle the lie that it is Iran that threatens the Holy State. You’re right ismael-next February 28th looks more and more like a date with destiny.

  35. bozh said on December 21st, 2009 at 1:47pm #

    The utterance by mad priests: We are chosen by god or God chose us appears crystal clear. It cannot be further defined; i.e., explained.
    It is an unique saying. And any child over 5 yrs old can instantly and correctly understand it.
    The problem arises only when one wants or attempts to do some damage control by applying usual comlexification of the simplicity.
    tnx

  36. Danny Ray said on December 21st, 2009 at 1:47pm #

    OK kim see above let’s se wheather the rules apply to everyone.

  37. Deadbeat said on December 21st, 2009 at 3:21pm #

    islamofascist sounds like an anti-semitic slur. You need to take your anti-semitism elsewhere.

  38. Noisy Tappet said on December 21st, 2009 at 3:26pm #

    I’m getting very tired of being told repeatedly that criticsing the lawless Israeli regime’s gangsters and thugs is equivalent to hating all Jews. A growing number of right-thinking Jews are also repelled by them and are happy to say so.

  39. bozh said on December 21st, 2009 at 3:38pm #

    I thought that no ‘jew’ cld be adequately fair to paln’s. Only a ‘jew’ who discards his/her “jewishness”; i.e., cultishness cld be fair to any noncultist.
    As long as a human asserts that s/he’s a “Jew”, which obviously does not denote an ethnicity, s/he’s wedded to mosheic or talmudic cult.
    And all cults and socalled religions are vastly antihuman and strongly supportive of kings, emperors, earls, lords, aghas, amirs, ceo’s, et al.
    Please, don’t ever forget that if a person is a “jew” he’s not one of us or with us.
    Tnx

  40. Shabnam said on December 21st, 2009 at 3:53pm #

    I agree with you Deadbeat.

    Islamofascism created by the racist and anti Semite Zionists pro Israel for propaganda against Muslims and Iran. This campaign of hatred is supported by Bernard Henri Levy, an imposter who presents himself a ‘philosopher.’ This liar with other Iranian ‘opposition’ groups, such as Maryam Namazi from HOPI, Shahla Shafiq from Iranian women movement, (one million signatures), Ayan Hershi Ali, Manji, Ibn Warraq, an Indian zionist racist whose job is to attack Edward Said to discredit his work since Said’s death, Salman Rushdie, Nasreen Taslimi, a Bangladeshi writer at the service of the ‘human rights’ organization and few others signed a petition against ‘islamofascism’ and religious totalitarianism. Bernard Henri Levy has close relations with Iranian ‘opposition’ groups including a clown by the name of Mohsen Makhmalbaf who has recently been to Washington begging for more sanctions against Iranian children and Marjane Satrapi, the graphic novelist who wrote Persepolis and it was made into a film with the same name in France, for propaganda against Iran. Later, it was distributed in the United States by the zionist pro Israel, Steven Spielberg, to brainwash Americans to be prepared for another zionist war.

    http://www.iranian.com/main/blog/darius-kadivar/marjane-satrapy-and-bhl-demonstrate-paris

  41. sybil e bondi said on December 21st, 2009 at 4:18pm #

    shabnam,what has this man got to do with zionism?

    Ibn Warraq (born 1946) is the pen name of a secularist author of Pakistani origin who founded the Institute for the Secularisation of Islamic Society. He is a senior research fellow at the Center for Inquiry[1][2][3] focusing on Qur’anic criticism.[4][5]

    Warraq gathered world notice through his historiographies of the early centuries of the Islamic timeline and has published works which question mainstream conceptions of the period. He is the author of seven books, including Why I Am Not a Muslim (1995), The Origins of the Koran (1998), The Quest for the Historical Muhammad, (2000), What the Koran Really Says: Language, Text and Commentary (2002) and Defending the West: A Critique of Edward Said’s Orientalism, (2007). He has also spoken at the United Nations “Victims of Jihad” conference organized by the International Humanist and Ethical Union alongside speakers such as Bat Ye’or, Ayaan Hirsi Ali, and Simon Deng.[6]

  42. Shabnam said on December 21st, 2009 at 4:40pm #

    What do call a person who is on a campaign to attack Muslims and yet they have said nothing about a racist ideology like zionism. Besides, He has attacked Edward Said’s work, Orientalism, where has gone to many field of studies and it is the dream of zionists to discredit this very important work.
    If you have Persian language skills read an open letter by Hajj Sayyd Javadi attacks Shahla Shafiq who has signed the following petition by pro Israel Lobby such as Bernard Henri Levy, Manji, Ayan Hershi Ali, Maryam Namazie, she is not only member of HOPI but also leader of a zionist supperted X-MUSLIM, and Ibn Warraq. What do you call someone who works closely with such a pro zionist crowd?

    http://otherclub.blogspot.com/2006/03/if-west-can-just-match-their-courage.html

  43. Shabnam said on December 21st, 2009 at 4:45pm #

    Read more about Bernard Henri Levy:

    http://www.qlineorientalist.com/IranRises/bernard-henri-levy/

  44. deceschi said on December 21st, 2009 at 4:54pm #

    There is a basic distortion of the truth operated by the anti-Zionists like noisy or mulga and others. Their black&white-position can be resumed with the slogan: Israel and her supporters (The”Zionists”) are a bad, while Arabs – and among them the Palestinians – are good. The former were colonianist “gangsters and thugs” (funny wording indeed), the latter would be the innocent “natives” that would be expelled from their land.
    This attitude is indeed very naiv, but dangerous at the same time. Naiv because it is simply not true that the arabs alias Palestinians are only “good”. It’s based on a myth, a very old one, the myth of the noble savage. Was never true, and a fortiori it isn’t today. On the other hand, it’s dangerous, because it perpetuates the state of pure victim cultivated by the Palestinians, and therefore justifies a war to the bitter end by all means available against the alleged aggressor and perpetrator. That the Arabs (Aka Palestinians) have internalized this mindset and act accordingly is demonstrated by their lack of consideration of peace. The ultimate goal of the Palestinians in fact appears to be to destroy the state of Israel, by virtue of the irrational moral weight of a whole world, the Arab world, which can not accept the presence of an independent Jewish state on a land that it considers solely and exclusively his own. Hamas has stated this axiome last week once again.
    “We will never give up on Palestine from the river to the sea,” Haniya told the crowd, referring to the pre-1948 borders of the British Palestine Mandate between the Mediterranean Sea and the Jordan River.
    “It is not enough for Hamas to liberate Gaza, nor to establish an emirate in Gaza, nor a state, nor an independent entity… Hamas strives to liberate all of Palestine.”, said Hamas Prime Minister Ismail Haniya.
    (http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20091214/wl_mideast_afp/mideastpalestinianpoliticshamasdemo_20091214125556)

    On the other hand, even the so-called moderate Fatah doesn’t appear trustworthy. As we can read on Haaretz, he refused even to consider a 100% land swap with Israel proposed in 2008 by Olmert:

    Haaretz.com, 20/12 2009
    Abbas: Olmert offered PA land equaling 100% of West Bank
    By Jack Khoury, Haaretz Correspondent

    Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas on Sunday confirmed that former Prime Minister Ehud Olmert offered him land near Gaza in exchange for settlement blocs that Israel wants to annex, Arab-language newspaper Asharq Al-Awsat reported on Sunday.
    Abbas said that the proposed swap would have given the Palestinians land that would equal 100 percent of the West Bank. He added that there are no Israeli settlements or Israeli Arab residents in the land surrounding Gaza that was offered to the Palestinians, according to the report.
    “I clarified that I refused to annex even one Israeli Arab citizen,” Abbas was quoted as saying.
    http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1136351.html

    Sad to say, but this inflexible Arab-Palestinian attitude alone could bring to an end another myth (all people and nations are indeed myths, built on mythic creations, what doesn’t mean that they aren’t true): the myth of the Palestinian people. I still hope it isn’t already too late to change this attitude – and with it that of its fiercest radical supporters – toward a rational pragmatism positve aimed at achieving a real peace.

  45. demize! said on December 21st, 2009 at 11:34pm #

    Why were my comments expunged? I can only surmise it is because I ended them with the suggestion to go die. A bit of weak tea it seems for a person who is an apologist for the murder of children to imbibe.

  46. Noisy Tappet said on December 22nd, 2009 at 1:06am #

    You and your pals are actually the ones, sybil, that lump Jews, Zionists and Israelis together – it’s so convenient for your propaganda lies. The rest of us know the difference.

  47. Mary said on December 22nd, 2009 at 4:31am #

    Israel: EU official’s ‘occupation’ remark casts pall on ties
    By Akiva Eldar, Haaretz Correspondent

    Government officials in Jerusalem harshly criticized the new European Union High Representative for Foreign Affairs and Security Policy, Catherine Ashton, for her scathing remarks about the “Israeli occupation” in her maiden speech.

    Ashton on Tuesday leveled scathing criticism at Israeli policy in her first speech as the European Union’s first high representative for foreign affairs and security policy.

    The government officials in Jerusalem said they were surprised, dissatisfied and concerned that such a senior figure had expressed criticism before visiting Israel and learning the facts.

    They said the remarks cast a pall over relations with the European Union, and that they were particularly angry that she had not welcomed the settlement construction freeze, as had her European colleagues.

    /…..
    http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1135787.html

    Mustn’t use the word ‘OCCUPATION’! As a friend said, it seems that Baroness Ashton has a spine but let’s see how long it stays upright under the domestic and foreign pressure.

  48. Mulga Mumblebrain said on December 22nd, 2009 at 10:49am #

    mary, I’ve come to the decision that ‘occupation’ does not do justice to what Israel has done and is doing in the lands that it is stealing, and the nature of the religious fanatic settlers it has introduced there. I now prefer the usage the ‘infested’ territories to give the proper sense of its nature. As for deceschi’s sordid maunderings, it is truly banal for him to ignorantly project his racism on the defenders of the Palestinians by accusing us of seeing them as ‘savages’, noble or otherwise. The rest of his truly pathetic attempts to invert history, the facts and commonsense, by portraying the planned, concerted and pitiless aggression of European colonialists to steal another people’s homeland and ethnically cleanse them through massacre and terror, may be the nadir of cynical hypocrisy and mendacity, but it is the true language of Zionist racism.
    No-one rational, certainly not I, says all Israelis or Jews are wicked, only a great many. No-one sane, certainly not I, says all Palestinians are noble, steadfast, brave and resilient victims of racist evil, only the vast majority of them. Inside Israel and amongst Jewry worldwide there are many Jews who put the decencies of common humanity before the arrogance of tribal solidarity, and who recognise vicious racism and murderous sadism as crimes against humanity, and reject them, even when committed by their co-religionists. And amongst Palestinians there are traitors and Quislings, like the Fatah leadership who have sold out to the brutal racist invaders that terrorise their imprisoned people. I bet you can guess which category I see you as occupying, deceschi. And, mary, I expect ‘Baroness’ Ashton to have been hauled into line soon, because the Judaic owners of the Western political class simply do not tolerate their employees evidencing any independent thought or the ‘anti-Semitic’ notion that Jews are capable of any ill, whatsoever.

  49. deceschi said on December 22nd, 2009 at 2:08pm #

    Mulga regrettably can not help but to think in abstract categories of “good” and “bad” und she loves to portrait Israel and the Jews who support Israel as the “bad guys”, while she idealizes on the other hand the “Palestinian natives” and their myths. Not even children are so naiv and blind.
    But what is mulga’s opinion about Olmert’s proposal to Abbas for a quite fair land swap corresponding to 100% of the West Bank, and about Abbas’ and Fatah’s strict refusal to even consider this as a starting point for peace talks? Does she ever have express a single critical thought about the Arab attitude and hate propaganda against Israel and Jews? What is her opinion about Hamas’ attempt to impose the Sharia in the Gaza strip, let alone the abuse of civilians as human shields for their terrorist acts which are designed to target civilians? Is she aware that the Palestinian people elected both Fatah and Hamas as their legitimate main political representatives? That Hamas killed many hundreds of Fatah supporters to be the sole power in Gaza?

    Or is her silence on these issues simply the tacit confirmation from her part that she is not really interested in Palestinians and their true well-being but actually in Israel … in abstract Israel-bashing?

  50. Mulga Mumblebrain said on December 23rd, 2009 at 1:42am #

    When dealing with your ‘contributions’ deceschi, one has, first, to ignore the lies (ie Hamas used the people of Gaza as ‘human shields’, when it was Israel that did so, as attested by Amnesty, Goldstone, UN, etc, an old, old Zionazi practice often labeled, with nauseating contempt for the victims, the ‘neighbour procedure’). Then one must set aside the crude, racist, double-standards of the Zionist, where the sadistic cruelty of a vicious, racist state, whose state ideology, based on perverted religion, sees the stormtroopers of that state as representing a higher being than the rest of humanity, ie they are ‘ubermenschen’, and their imprisoned victims, including the children, are ‘two-legged animals’. It takes real chutzpah to deny Israeli racism when the evidence is voluminous in the Master Race’s own words, uttered over and over again, but Zionist liars do not lack arrogant audacity, that is certain.
    After taking out your humbug and lies, deceschi, not much is left to reply to. Your assertions of Zionist willingness to concede (how noble and generous they are!)a Palestinian state is, as all know, pure BS. The latest Zionist offer, stunning in its contempt and racism, from that thug Netanyahu, was of an electronic zoo, on part only of the Infested Territories, with the Jordan Valley stolen (the untermenschen might, if they behave, be given work as serfs toiling in the Masters’ farms)no external boundaries, no armed forces (here Zionazi arrogance reaches truly hysterical levels of racist contempt. The ubermenschen, of course, remain armed to the teeth)no control of their airspace or electronic space and a veto over their foreign relations by the Chosen Ones.
    The reason Israel is reviled throughout the world is massively predominately because people detest racist bullies who spit venom and hiss abuse at any who dare oppose them. That’s why the UN General Assembly votes 140 or 150 against Israel every year. Israel gets away with being the vilest racist state extant because the Jews’ money power totally controls politics, the media and business in the West. For just one example, in Australia this media dominance and the craven subservience of the Sabbat Goyim in the media, has reached the stage that the Palestinian voice has been totally silenced, while Zionazis rage, day after day from editorials, opinion pieces and feature stories, reviling Islam, abusing the Palestinians and febrilely agitating for an onslaught on Iran. A new twist is their leading role in the outburst of Sinophobia, as they hate and fear the one global power that they do not control.
    SO DECESCHI, YOUR AGIT-PROP IS WITHOUT MERIT, INVERTS THE TRUTH AND IS, IN MY OPINION, BASED ON NOTHING BUT THE DELUSIONS OF ONE CONVINCED THAT UP IS DOWN, RIGHT IS LEFT, AND THAT THE MURDER OF CIVILIANS, EVEN CHILDREN, IS A MITZVAH OR GOOD DEED.

  51. demize said on December 29th, 2009 at 12:52pm #

    Brava! Bravissima! My new hero ^_^