Top 5 Lies About Israel’s Assault on Gaza

Lie #1) Israel is only targeting legitimate military sites and is seeking to protect innocent lives. Israel never targets civilians.

The Gaza Strip is one of the most densely populated pieces of property in the world. The presence of militants within a civilian population does not, under international law, deprive that population of their protected status, and hence any assault upon that population under the guise of targeting militants is, in fact, a war crime.

Moreover, the people Israel claims are legitimate targets are members of Hamas, which Israel says is a terrorist organization. Hamas has been responsible for firing rockets into Israel. These rockets are extremely inaccurate and thus, even if Hamas intended to hit military targets within Israel, are indiscriminate by nature. When rockets from Gaza kill Israeli civilians, it is a war crime.

Hamas has a military wing. However, it is not entirely a military organization, but a political one. Members of Hamas are the democratically elected representatives of the Palestinian people. Dozens of these elected leaders have been kidnapped and held in Israeli prisons without charge. Others have been targeted for assassination, such as Nizar Rayan, a top Hamas official. To kill Rayan, Israel targeted a residential apartment building. The strike not only killed Rayan but two of his wives and four of his children, along with six others. There is no justification for such an attack under international law. This was a war crime.

Other of Israel’s bombardment with protected status under international law have included a mosque, a prison, police stations, and a university, in addition to residential buildings.

Moreover, Israel has long held Gaza under siege, allowing only the most minimal amounts of humanitarian supplies to enter. Israel is bombing and killing Palestinian civilians. Countless more have been wounded, and cannot receive medical attention. Hospitals running on generators have little or no fuel. Doctors have no proper equipment or medical supplies to treat the injured. These people, too, are the victims of Israeli policies targeted not at Hamas or legitimate military targets, but directly designed to punish the civilian population.

Lie #2) Hamas violated the cease-fire. The Israeli bombardment is a response to Palestinian rocket fire and is designed to end such rocket attacks.

Israel never observed the cease-fire to begin with. From the beginning, it announced a “special security zone” within the Gaza Strip and announced that Palestinians who enter this zone will be fired upon. In other words, Israel announced its intention that Israeli soldiers would shoot at farmers and other individuals attempting to reach their own land in direct violation of not only the cease-fire but international law.

Despite shooting incidents, including ones resulting in Palestinians getting injured, Hamas still held to the cease-fire from the time it went into effect on June 19 until Israel effectively ended the truce on November 4 by launching an airstrike into Gaza that killed five and injured several others.

Israel’s violation of the cease-fire predictably resulted in retaliation from militants in Gaza who fired rockets into Israel in response. The increased barrage of rocket fire at the end of December is being used as justification for the continued Israeli bombardment, but is a direct response by militants to the Israeli attacks.

Israel’s actions, including its violation of the cease-fire, predictably resulted in an escalation of rocket attacks against its own population.

Lie #3) Hamas is using human shields, a war crime.

There has been no evidence that Hamas has used human shields. The fact is, as previously noted, Gaza is a small piece of property that is densely populated. Israel engages in indiscriminate warfare such as the assassination of Nizar Rayan, in which members of his family were also murdered. It is victims like his dead children that Israel defines as “human shields” in its propaganda. There is no legitimacy for this interpretation under international law. In circumstances such as these, Hamas is not using human shields, Israel is committing war crimes in violation of the Geneva Conventions and other applicable international law.

Lie #4) Arab nations have not condemned Israel’s actions because they understand Israel’s justification for its assault.

The populations of those Arab countries are outraged at Israel’s actions and at their own governments for not condemning Israel’s assault and acting to end the violence. Simply stated, the Arab governments do not represent their respective Arab populations. The populations of the Arab nations have staged mass protests in opposition to not only Israel’s actions but also the inaction of their own governments and what they view as either complacency or complicity in Israel’s crimes.

Moreover, the refusal of Arab nations to take action to come to the aid of the Palestinians is not because they agree with Israel’s actions, but because they are submissive to the will of the US, which fully supports Israel. Egypt, for instance, which refused to open the border to allow Palestinians wounded in the attacks to get medical treatment in Egyptian hospitals, is heavily dependent upon US aid, and is being widely criticized within the population of the Arab countries for what is viewed as an absolute betrayal of the Gaza Palestinians.

Even Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas has been regarded as a traitor to his own people for blaming Hamas for the suffering of the people of Gaza. Palestinians are also well aware of Abbas’ past perceived betrayals in conniving with Israel and the US to sideline the democratically elected Hamas government, culminating in a counter-coup by Hamas in which it expelled Fatah (the military wing of Abbas’ Palestine Authority) from the Gaza Strip. While his apparent goal was to weaken Hamas and strengthen his own position, the Palestinians and other Arabs in the Middle East are so outraged at Abbas that it is unlikely he will be able to govern effectively.

Lie #5) Israel is not responsible for civilian deaths because it warned the Palestinians of Gaza to flee areas that might be targeted.

Israel claims it sent radio and telephone text messages to residents of Gaza warning them to flee from the coming bombardment. But the people of Gaza have nowhere to flee to. They are trapped within the Gaza Strip. It is by Israeli design that they cannot escape across the border. It is by Israeli design that they have no food, water, or fuel by which to survive. It is by Israeli design that hospitals in Gaza have no electricity and few medical supplies with which to treat the injured and save lives. And Israel has bombed vast areas of Gaza, targeting civilian infrastructure and other sites with protected status under international law. No place is safe within the Gaza Strip.

Jeremy R. Hammond is the editor of Foreign Policy Journal, a website providing news, analysis, and opinion from outside the standard framework provided by government officials and the corporate media. He was among the recipients of the 2010 Project Censored Awards for outstanding investigative journalism and is the author of The Rejection of Palestinian Self-Determination. You can contact him at: Read other articles by Jeremy, or visit Jeremy's website.

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  1. bozh said on January 3rd, 2009 at 11:43am #

    well said. thnx for telling us that arabs r angry at latest crimes by euros. the leaders have been bought. we knew that.

  2. Brian said on January 3rd, 2009 at 2:42pm #

    How can we get CNN producers, editors and reporters and news readers to internalize these facts?

    I was watching their “programming” today about the illegal invasion of Gaza by Israel (using U.S. supplied weaponry, a violation of U.S. law) and began to get literally sick listening to their rendition of what is going down.

  3. lichen said on January 3rd, 2009 at 3:35pm #

    Yeah, my sort of roommate watches CNN, and all they publish is these fucking lies over and over again; it makes me want to smash the tv as I walk by. Imagine the difference in tone if Sadam Hussain (the death penalty is always wrong, yes!) did this to the kurds? Israel has to be dethroned.

  4. Suthiano said on January 3rd, 2009 at 5:15pm #

    5-6 thousand people rallied in Toronto today against zionist racists like mebozo ritchie…

    israel has invaded gaza with troops.

  5. bozh said on January 3rd, 2009 at 5:46pm #

    r u wishing isr had killed 350 ‘terrorists’ or is it the fact. did u count the bodies? or did IOF give u the numbers? r u that desperate to talk like that?
    even i who’s just a bit smarter than an ape can’t be taken in by such a discourse.
    but is nice to hear from u. i not only alllow free speech- i welcome it.
    still, i’d like u to be a bit more serious.
    give us also a few facts so that we can no more. thnx

  6. bozh said on January 3rd, 2009 at 5:55pm #

    don’t worry, isr cannot win. pals have freesex therapy an dw.o. use of alcohol.
    they gonna make lotsof babies an draise even better fighters.

    remember, lotsof lands r very fearful allowing jushits to totally vanquish or expel pals.
    and not because of their morality but because of the reality.
    this is my last post of the day. thnx.

  7. Don Hawkins said on January 3rd, 2009 at 6:39pm #

    Watching the news from Gaza and I think I saw a UFO or maybe a nameless, faceless drone. Just on the off chance it was a UFO I saw and let’s say they are watching us and thinking these human’s are toast. In just a few short years there climate will make there planet unlivable in many way’s and yet war is still there answer. Many have the knowledge to solve there problems but not used. The people in power are like there , faceless, mindless drones. The amazing part is many have the knowledge but not used not used. They don’t seem to learn from there history many have the knowledge but not used not used.

  8. Jeremy R. Hammond said on January 3rd, 2009 at 8:29pm #

    mebosa ritchie,

    I don’t agree with Hamas’ action in capturing Gilad Shalit. However, he is a soldier. The prisoners Israel is holding are civilians who have been held indefinately and not been charged with any crimes.

    I find your callous remark about “only” 400 killed disgusting. Have you no decency? This is a slaughter.

    Also, you dishonestly misrepresent the UN figure on civilian casualties. They’ve given a number of women and children killed. Among the men, they can’t calculate how many have been civilians and how many combatants. So they have stated plainly that the figure they give is an extremely conservative estimate.

    Israel has been “restrained”? This is incomparably disproportionate warfare, and a war crime.

  9. Don Hawkins said on January 4th, 2009 at 6:21am #

    Watching the news this morning and already the matrix is hard at work making it seem like what is happening in Gaza is just normal and remember go shopping keep America strong. We must conceder now the attitude of the captains of big finance and industry and what do they want us to do. We love them they are are friends and we must do what they tell us for they are the wise ones among us and remember the moon is made of green cheese. Three million to start in front of the head office. Think of this as kind of a war and ignorance is NOT strength. Oh and these captains of big finance and industry are drones over are heads to keep us mindless, nameless, faceless. Three million to start.

  10. rosemarie jackowski said on January 4th, 2009 at 9:02am #

    Great article with great clarity. Thanks for writing it. Next step – get it into the mainstream, please. This is the kind of info that needs to be given very wide coverage.

  11. bozh said on January 4th, 2009 at 9:29am #

    wld u like to elucidate us ab ur disagreeing w. the capture of an isr soldier?
    imv (in my view) a captured nation has the moral and legal obligation to fight occupiers by all means.
    not that i recommend pals resist their occupation since obvioulsy they cannot win anything w. it.
    it neither gains nor defends land; in fact; pals have been losing land since at least ’17. thnx

  12. Jeremy R. Hammond said on January 4th, 2009 at 10:05am #

    Yes. While soldiers are legitimate military targets, I simply think it is foolish tactics on the part of Palestinians to engage in violence. Of course, I recognize the right to self defense of the Palestinians. However, engaging in such behaviors as the capture of Shalit simply serves as pretext for further Israeli violence. It’s sheer stupidity, in my opinion.

    While armed resistance is their right, I believe if they “turned the other cheek”, so-to-speak, the support Israel has in the West (the US) could not continue. And if US support for Israeli crimes ended, Israel’s crimes against the Palestinians would be largely mitigated.

    Take the present violence, for instance. If Palestinians simply had not responded to Israel’s violation of the cease-fire by firing rockets into Israel, Israel would not have had the excuse it was looking for to wage this war. Not only are such attacks, by virtue of them being inherently indiscriminate, war crimes, but they are also just simply stupid. Suicidal.

  13. W said on January 4th, 2009 at 11:03am #

    Although I disagree strongly with your characterizations of the situation; please clarify what Israel is supposed to do when rockets are being lobbed into Southern Israel for 8 years by Hamas?

    By the way, I could not help but notice that when the Universities
    Police Stations and Mosques are bombed that the munitions that
    Hamas houses inside these places also explode and leave a unique
    smoke stream up into the sky. But I am sure that does not change your
    opinion if Hamas puts munitions inside Mosques.

  14. jack said on January 4th, 2009 at 11:18am #

    Much of what you write is not factually correct. I think you are missing the larger issue. Radical Islam is ruining the world. When you have a people committed to exterminating every jew, they must be stopped. The Radicals have long used civilians as a shield. They hide in Mosques, schools, hospitals, etc. They use suicide bombers to kill not only americans and jews, but anyone who disagrees with their maniacal views of they world. It is also ridiculous to dismiss the 6500 rockets that have been fired, because they are not very accurate. There are 1 million jews in shelters, because they are afraid to walk in their own neighborhoods. Why don’t you go live close to where the rockets are being fired and see how you feel. You live in a safe place so it’s easy to be so smug. I am all for the Palestinians having a state of their own. I believe they deserve it, but they are going about it the wrong way.

  15. Eric said on January 4th, 2009 at 11:55am #

    Totally Different

    by digby

    Jonathan Schwarz takes a trip down Israel’s Memory Lane and finds something interesting:

    The funny thing about the Israeli attack on Gaza following its long blockade is that Israel’s original justification for taking over Gaza in 1967 was that Israel was being subject to a blockade. This is from the official Knesset history of the Six Day War:

    Egyptian President Gamal Abdel Nasser blockaded the Straits of Tiran on May 21st and 22nd to all shipping from and to Eilat; the area was open to Israeli ships under UN supervision since 1957, and Israel repeatedly stated that such a blockade will be considered as casus belli (justification for acts of war).


    Jonathan also does a search and finds that nobody in journalism seems to drawn attention to this obvious parallel in all the talk about blockade and retaliation.

    How odd.

    digby 1/02/2009 07:30:00 PM

  16. Jay said on January 4th, 2009 at 1:26pm #

    I take offense to the author of this post presuming he has this all figured out. The situation in Israel/Gaza is a horrible predicament, and it is not a black & white situation. I do not agree with how the government there has gone about trying to solve problems, but I also think the truth to what is going on is MUCH more complex that the author (Jeremy) seems to want to acknowledge. That’s understandable, since it’s easier to just look at this all through a simplistic lens of right and wrong and try to sort it out rather than do any sort of research into this conflict.

    Hamas, as an organization, is and always has been committed to the destruction of Israel. Jeremy tries to dent the Israel only targeting civilian argument by saying Hamas is a democratically elected organization. Their aim is to destroy Israel, all men, women or children. This is their goal. It is not in dispute. Gaza is dense, and Hamas hides its fighters and weapons in Mosques and are very close to civilians. Jeremy’s justification for Hamas’ rockets, being “indiscriminate by nature” is under fantasy. They are aiming those rockets at cities and farms with the intent to kill civilians. Israel is targeting buildings and launching sites in Gaza with the intent to kill Hamas. Now, in my opinion this does not lessen how horrible the situation is. But the bottom line here is that the target — which Jeremy states was Rayan in his example — is not a civilian. But in war, these terrible things happen. I do not condone it, but if I were an Israeli living in Sederot and lived in fear of rockets landing on me daily, I would support targeting the leaders of Hamas, despite the consequences. But the bottom line here, which Jeremy cannot dispute, is that the IDF is not looking for civilian targets and firing on them to try to inflict civilian casualties. THAT is a lie.

    Regarding your Lie #2, the “cease-fire” breakage, again this is not a black and white issue. If you want to look at what happened on November 4, please feel free to examine both sides of the story. Israel determined that there was going to be an imminent attempt by Hamas to kidnap more Israeli soldiers through a new tunnel that was dug on the border of Hamas. Despite any cease-fire, Israel has a right to self defense. It was determined that this tunnel had to be taken out and it was. Hamas was not attempting to just live in peace during this cease-fire, they were preparing to kidnap more soldiers for ransom, as has been part of their strategy. So while Jeremy likes to pin the blame on Israel here, it is not so black and white. If you had a cease-fire but saw your enemy preparing to throw a bomb, would you act? Would you just sit back and let them hurl it? This “breakage” of the cease-fire is a gray issue. If you don’t see this then you probably can’t fully understand the situation in the middle east to begin with.

    Lie #3? Come on Jeremy, do a LITTLE bit of research. Even a tiny bit. Just go on Google and try typing in “Hamas human shields” and see what pops up. I appreciate your ballsy-ness in just flat out stating that there is no evidence of Hamas using human shields. I suppose you’d know this because you go there a lot and fight Hamas? Hamas has in the past been drawing Israeli forces into populated civilian areas, shooting at Jewish fighters from occupied civilian homes while women and children were inside. Here’s one link and if you don’t like that link, do some more research on this. They have a history of doing this. Hamas uses the civilian population for its own goals. It is a part of its military strategy.

    Lie #4 == well I don’t know who’s saying that’s true, so I find it pretty funny that you are propping up a statement as a “lie.” Of course there are Arab countries that are not supporting Israel’s actions. I’m not even sure what the point of this is other than Jeremy inserting is immense wisdom into why the government of Egypt is not supporting Hamas. It is a little more complex that just the US aid argument, that Jeremy so eloquently projects. There are destabilizing extremist groups within a lot of Arab countries that the governments do not want to see rise in power, similarly to Hamas. None of these groups are good news for the US either.

    Lie #5 — well Jeremy, I wish this were so black and white. But yes, I agree it is a lie, but I also don’t see your assessment as being totally accurate. Israel must bear some responsibility for civilian deaths, but so must Hamas, as this conflict is not one-sided. Hamas has made many decisions that have created the situation in Gaza over the last 2 years, and Israel has reacted. There is nowhere to run in Gaza, I agree, it is a small piece of land and you can’t just leave the war area. It’s all a war area. But again, the author of this article, Jeremy, does not wish to look at the bigger picture and pins all of the blame on Israel. Until we wish to look at the bigger picture and see how both sides contribute to the suffering, there will be no solution.

    I am not a proponent for aggression against Palestinians, but I am a proponent for looking at the big picture. As long as people like Jeremy refuse to have an accurate and intelligent conversation about what is causing conflicts like this in the region, there will not be offers of comprehensive solution for a situation that is much more complex than many of us want to accept.

  17. rosemarie jackowski said on January 4th, 2009 at 1:31pm #

    And there are those who support the idea of setting up a safe, protected, sovereign State of Israel someplace in central Europe – maybe someplace in Germany. (That is not an original idea.)

  18. Everett Vinzant said on January 4th, 2009 at 3:06pm #

    The reason lie #1 is a lie has nothing to do with anything given in response to it. It becomes a fallacy because you have structured three independent statements into one argument. Then you argue against a portion of what you have stated. The first statement is “Israel is only targeting legitimate military sites.” The second is “(Israel) is seeking to protect innocent lives.” The third is “Israel never targets civilians.” As these are three separate, distinct arguments, let’s analyze each one.

    Israel is only targeting legitimate, military sites. At no point in your article do you provide any statement to the contrary. This statement is true, based on the information you have provided.

    Israel is seeking to protect innocent lives. In Lie number five you state that Israel has notified civilians to flee from coming bombardment. Their notification has caused people not to be where an impending attack is while it happened. This statement is true based in part on what you have provided. It is also true because Israel has assisted in the evacuation of Palestinians that chose to leave for other countries.

    Israel never targets civilians. The Israeli military selects military targets in Palestine. Hamas is both a political AND military group. The leaders are elected by the society they represent, as you pointed out. Although voluntary human shields are currently treated as civilians, international law does NOT preclude attacks on military targets with civilians present. “The presence of a protected person may not be used to render certain points or areas immune from military operations.” Fourth Geneva Convention, Article 28

    You make the same mistake in constructing lie #2. There are two statements here. First you state Hamas violated the cease-fire. They didn’t. Neither did Israel. First I’ll explain how Hamas didn’t violate the cease fire. The two words we need to look at are hunda, and tahdiya. The difference between the two Arabic terms is substantial. Hudna means “truce,” which is more concrete than tahdiya – “a period of calm” – which Hamas often uses to describe a simple cease-fire. In traditional Islamic thought, a hudna is negotiated between an Islamic entity and a non-Islamic entity, but it can be reversed the moment the Islamic side has gained sufficient strength to resume fighting. Nevertheless, a hudna implies recognition of the other party’s actual existence, without acknowledging its legitimacy.
    A tahdiya has less standing than a hudna. Khaled Mashaal, Hamas’ leader, and his deputy in leadership, Musa Abu Marzouq, elaborated in recent months their interpretation of a tahdiya. In an interview with Al-Jazeera (April 26, 2008), Mashaal clarified that for Hamas, a tahdiya is “a tactic in conflict management and a phase in the framework of the resistance [meaning all forms of struggle].” He added that it “is not unusual for the resistance…to escalate sometimes and to retreat a bit sometimes as the tide does….The tahdiya creates a formulation that will force Israel…to remove the siege…and if it happens it will be a remarkable achievement….We are speaking of a tactical tahdiya….As long as there is occupation, there is no other way but resistance.”
    Now I’ll explain how Israel didn’t violate the cease-fire. On December 18th a six month ceasefire between Israel and Palestinian militants in Gaza expired. Late on that Thursday Hamas announced it would not be extending the truce. The Hamas spokesman, Fawzi Barhoum, says the Palestinian people don’t feel they have anything to gain by keeping the ceasefire in place.
    The Israeli bombardment is a response to Palestinian rocket fire and is designed to end such rocket attacks. The rocket attacks from Palestine are public record, and are mentioned in your own article. Israel did respond to the rocket attacks. There is no fallacy here.

    #3 The use of human shields is a war crime. That is a fact according to international law. Voluntary or involuntary human shields are currently considered civilians. However the status of voluntary human shields as civilians is a matter of international debate, and that status may change. As stated earlier, the people of Palestine elected the officials representing them. Voluntary, or involuntary, Hamas is using human shields by definition of international law. It is not Israeli “propaganda” that identifies who is a human shield, but international law.

    #4 The entire argument (Arab nations have not condemned Israel’s actions because they understand Israel’s justification for its assault.) is a moot point. It is irrelevant what the other nations think. They were not under attack from Hamas, Israel was, and responded.

    #5 Israel is not responsible for civilian deaths because it warned the Palestinians of Gaza to flee areas that might be targeted. See my response to #1 and #3. Also, Israel assisted Palestinians in leaving the country.

    Your article has done nothing to expose a lie in anything that was stated. You misstated arguments, causing the appearance of a lie. When the argument was correctly stated, it withstood logical analysis. I look forward to a response from you on this subject. Please note, I used many publicly verified sources in my response, and the only claim I make is to formatting it to respond to the inaccuracies you posted.

  19. bozh said on January 4th, 2009 at 4:08pm #

    what all defenders of isr and its numerous crimes do is to talk ab much less important events such as what a truce is; who broke it, etc.
    they always mention the fact that hamas is dedicated to the destruction of isr in spite of the fact that they have no tanks, jets, army, governance, country, etc., to do it with.

    secondly, they evalauate the near-complete destruction of palestine w. a few people or even most people wishing isr be destroyed.
    euros destroyed pals country and expelled by terror and warfare ab 700td pals.

    now these defenders of isr’s crimes r trying to trap us in an endless argument ab historical facts/fancy starting a few mos’ ago and going on now.

    whether isr targets deliberately civilians or not shld be only a curioso; it cannot be proven or disproved. especially since gaza is, as far as i know, blockaded and internat’l observers r not allowed to observe.

    there may be only one way to find out what isr is doing and that’s to have observers in the occupied lands and thereafter a judicial inquiry.
    of course, it won’t come to pass.

    meanwhile, the events of the greatest magnitude r crystal clear: isr stole the land; wants to and does steal land today.

  20. bozh said on January 4th, 2009 at 4:48pm #

    wld u like to rephrase what u said in ur post. also how do we know that isr does not target civilians? and why do u talk ab the three statements
    u quoted being independent?
    in view of the fact that isr has a policy and its inherent tactics so that everything is connected: tactics w. strategy and strategy w. all isr does
    all we know is that isr says it does not target civilians.

    hopefully, u don’t mean to say that haganah, irgun, and stern have not targeted pals in ’48 and that many settlers and isr soldiers have done it ever since to this day.

    what does one expect isr to say but how good they r and how bad pals r.
    we need independent account. my understaning is, it is not available.
    so if it is true that isr resepects the law, isr wld gladly have observers observe it.

    ur ‘explanation’ who did or did not observe truce violation is pointless/and unprovable since once again we have two conflicting accounts of it and no independent confirmation as one ot the other being correct partially or fully.

    jay keeps talking ab how things r not black and white and then omits to say if it is dark-light dark issue and w. isr being much darker that pals. thnx

  21. Angelo said on January 5th, 2009 at 2:05am #

    This article does nothing to prove any of its allegations of Israeli war crimes.

    It is not a war crime to attack an enemy in a populated area, all war would be pretty much illegal in that case (defensive or otherwise). Civilians will die in any war, especially if it is fought in urban zones. Knowing that attacking an enemy in an urban area you will kill civilians does not a war crime make.

    The author berates Israel for attacking schools and Mosques, but did you happen to mention the allegation of Hamas using these as weapons depots and HQs? Or do you dismiss such things outright?

    As for the no-go zone; it is pretty clear that cease-fires involve zones where enemies cannot go. Trespassing is a breach of a cease-fire, or simply trespassing (which is punishable by death, as any junkyard burglar knows well). Israel has a right to maintain security during a cease-fire; Hamas has hardly honored any in the past.

    I mean really; the author is just grasping here. Hamas can easily be said to be violating a cease-fire by lobbing missiles in Israel. But Israel specifically sectioning off a border zone as a no-go for security reasons (which are reasonable) in a major regional conflict area is much harder to construe.

    Also, the leaders of Hamas are both politicians and generals. They lead a party and a terrorist (or paramilitary, if you’d prefer) organization. I am pretty sure that leaders of paramilitary groups are liable for capture in war-time. I am also pretty sure that political leaders are also targets.

    I am really trying to picture a war where the following is true:

    No warring in areas where people live.
    No capturing/killing military leaders of the enemy nation.
    No capturing political leaders of the enemy nation.
    No security during cease-fires.
    No killing more people than your opponent.

    I think the author, and those like him, are quite irrational about war. It’s fine to be anti-war in general. However, it is disingenuous to place bizarre and arbitrary limits on it and pretend that “if only they followed these steps when they killed people” you’d be A-OK and hop on their side.

    Nothing Israel does will satisfy you, unless they roll over. If Hamas gets the upper hand and Jews get slaughtered I suppose they’d suddenly be the underdogs again. Only then would you support them. From what I’ve observed this is what it all comes down to. Israel is evil because it’s doing a better job of protecting its people and eliminating its enemy. Hamas isn’t that effective.

    Let’s all hope the situation changes so Israel gain regain your approval.

  22. Jeremy R. Hammond said on January 5th, 2009 at 6:40am #

    “It is not a war crime to attack an enemy in a populated area…”

    Yes, it is. Explicitly.

  23. Kim Petersen said on January 5th, 2009 at 7:06am #

    Obviously, the fallacious comments by some of the types here bear out the following:

    Israel Backed by Army of Cyber-Soldiers
    By Times Online.

    Israel’s Government has thrown its weight behind efforts by supporters to counter what it believes to be negative bias and a tide of pro-Arab propaganda. The Foreign Ministry has ordered trainee diplomats to track websites and chatrooms so that networks of US and European groups with hundreds of thousands of Jewish activists can place supportive messages.

    In the past week nearly 5,000 members of the World Union of Jewish Students (WUJS) have downloaded special “megaphone” software that alerts them to anti-Israeli chatrooms or internet polls to enable them to post contrary viewpoints. A student team in Jerusalem combs the web in a host of different languages to flag the sites so that those who have signed up can influence an opinion survey or the course of a debate.

  24. Max Shields said on January 5th, 2009 at 7:33am #

    Yes, Kim, it is quite obvious that DV has acquired some new posters at this time of Zionist murder in Gaza.

    There “arguments” are baseless and Hammond has so much documented support it’s like being asked to prove that Palestinians were the indigenous people of the area.

    These are red herrings which are student-like exercises that show themselves to be exactly what they are. They’ve even created a faux NGO – The Israel Project. They refuse to discuss what’s happening. They are warmongers that match Dick Cheney and then some. Israel has clearly demonstrated they cannot exist in ME.

    The answer, one state solution fully open to all Palestinians as full citizens, and which allows others to visit and live (naturalized citizens) including people of all religions.


  25. Suthiano said on January 5th, 2009 at 8:14am #

    Those students who choose to interrupt conversations with red herrings should be disgusted with their arrogance, racism and stupidity.

  26. bozh said on January 5th, 2009 at 9:05am #

    glad to read that you are for one state. what these defenders do, as you have noted also, is that they use what i call “intentional stupidity”.
    imo, it’s ok to refute their claims and not in order to dissuade them but to educate new and old posters. thnx

  27. julie said on January 5th, 2009 at 9:22am #

    Israeli Troops are going into Gaza and shooting babies and small children in the head and killing them. The fact that this happens in 2009 shows how little adancement Israel has made to peace in the middle east. Israel is just adding fuel to the ever growing anti aisraeli fire. It is inhumane how little Israel cares for Palistinian lives. To be able to kill a baby within close range is disgusting. My heart goes out to all the poor Palistinian victims of Israels horrible actions. I pray and ope that people who can control and influence Israel will step up and stop the blood shed.

  28. Petronius said on January 5th, 2009 at 9:42am #

    There are the provocateurs who deliberately use this website to cause dissent between the dissenters, mainly by ad hominem attacks. It is easy to spot them, but we should be aware of infiltration, even though it may superficially seem that they are just trying to provoke a more heated discussion.

  29. mebosa ritchie said on January 5th, 2009 at 11:01am #

    for julie–see below
    samir kuntar an arab hero and child killer
    makes bullets seem almost reasonable

    According to the witnesses, when Kuntar’s group found that the rubber boat they’d arrived in was disabled by gunfire, Kuntar shot Danny at close range in the back, in front of his daughter, and drowned him in the sea to ensure he was dead. Next, eyewitnesses said he smashed the head of 4 year-old Einat on beach rocks and crushed her skull with the butt of his rifle,

  30. Shabnam said on January 5th, 2009 at 11:15am #

    You are right Kim to say that Israel is sending its cyber force to divert discussion from condemning the Gaza massacre to anti Muslim issues to limit some of the damages. These Zionists not only have rushed to this site but also other sites that I have visited. They are shameless and aggressive. For example, among the Iranian ‘opposition’ groups, majority of comments are limited to attacking Iranian government and Islam in general. The issue of ‘Kurds’ has been promoted above Palestinian issue or equivalent to that to divert attention from Zionism and Israel. The world ‘Zionism’ is hardly seen at these sites. Of course the logo of CIA, and Radio Farda, CIA offshoot and other puppets are seen at the front page of this site. Some of these ‘opposition’ groups allow comments and all comments are taken in and only few ‘chosen’ one are printed.
    Some of these sites print NOTHING. All are censored. What is interesting is few site say we are not interested in US IMPEREIALSIM AND ISRAEL ZIONISM. They are interested in attacking only the Iranian government and Islam. Since the Gaza massacre, many Persian speaking posters have shown ANTI ZIONIST ISRAEL views which is a jump from 10 percent to 70 percent, at these sites and they cannot do a damn thing about it. These posters are mainly Iranians living abroad who have come to this realization that Israel seeking a FINAL SOULTION for Palestinian ‘problem’ to destroy the indigenous population of Palestine.
    The Trotskyite Iranian ‘left’ oppositon groups like the gatekeepers spreading the following slogan:

    ‘No to Israeli aggression, No to Hamas theocracy,’ very much the same as ‘No to US imperialism, No to theocracy in Iran’
    a reactionary slogan with hidden agenda.

    Al Arabiya, is jointly owned by Saudi Arabia and an American company, I think for information gathering, has received many Israeli cyber-soldiers lately who leave long comments on unrelated issues to divert attention from Gaza massacre but they have not been successful because they have attacked by the rest of the posters, Persian speaking section. Ninety five percent (95%) of comments have anti ZIONIST attitude and pro Palestinian. Arabic section, as well as English section of Al Arabiya show high percentage of comments are against ZIONIST war crimes. Israel has not only uses all kind of WMD to eliminate Palestinian but also uses Cyber-soldiers for the same objective, FINAL SOLUTION. These war crimes have turned the international community against them and their war crime activities.

    It has been reported that people are conducting a cyber war against the Zionist baby killers.

    {Hackers rewrote the content of several well-known Israeli websites and posted items about the atrocities committed by the Israeli army in Gaza. The hackers were thought to be operating from The hackers targeted websites of small companies as well as government bodies, including the Israeli Defense Forces and the Israel Discount Bank, according to Israeli radio.Lebanon, Morocco, Iran, and Turkey, the London-based newspaper Asharq al-Awsat reported Sunday.}

  31. rob said on January 5th, 2009 at 11:35am #

    Greetings Mr Jeremy

    hamas sends rockets that have killed less than 20 ppl in 5 yrs
    in a military sense the rockets are nothing in comparison to the american bombs.why the israeli’s don’t use bombs similar to hamas’s to target hamas? should hamas learn from israel when it “avoids” civilians? one u.n american member sez he does not want to equate israel with hamas.will he equate when hamas kills 125 israeli’s for every palestinian?

    4 israel v 500 palestinians
    israel kills 125 palestinians for every israeli.
    before they drop american bombs from land and see they know that there are civilians and before they bomb they claim “they have months of evidence” they send their planes to monitor palestine, yet they blame hamas when civilians die. is it fine to bomb every city of israel because an idf lives there ? shall palestians aquire bombs to bomb israel so that future palestinians won’t have to be bombed?
    if your an israeli goverment member then i guess the answer is yes.
    i say the israel are fukin coward motha fuckers. they hid behind their children when hitler was doing his blitgrich over they hide behind fighter planes , boats and billion dollar bombs.

  32. rob said on January 5th, 2009 at 11:47am #

    muslims have to realise the fact that the evil they see today is derived from the jewish and christian holy books.familirise your self with gods “choosen” ppl


    1 Samuel 15:1 Samuel said to Saul, “I am the one [Yahweh] sent to anoint you king over His people Israel. Therefore, listen to [Yahweh’s] command! 2 Thus said [Yahweh] of hosts: I am exacting the penalty for what Amalek did to Israel, for the assault he made upon them on the road, on their way out of Egypt. Now go, attack Amalek, and proscribe all that belongs to them. Spare no one, but kill alike men and women, infants and sucklings, oxen and sheep, camel and asses!”

    how are palestinians women and children responsible for hamas?
    you see the ruthless israel’s using bombs and weapons on palestinian women and children because what they are indoctrinated with is that an innoncent is RESPONSIBLE FOR OTHER ppls crimes.

    “Deuteronomy 25:17 Remember what the Amalekites did to you along the way when you came out of Egypt. 18 When you were weary and worn out, they met you on your journey and cut off all who were lagging behind; they had no fear of God.
    To this, I can only say, “So what?” This incident had happened around 430 years before Saul was commanded to go destroy totally the Amalekites of his time. Is it morally right to hold people responsible for something their ancestors had done centuries earlier? This is the kind of thinking that results in centuries-old ethic grudges in places like Bosnia and the Near East, which we hear about so often in the news. If we went back in time 430 years, we would be in the year 1575, which would be just 83 years after the discovery of the “new world” and 31 years before the first permanent colony was established at Jamestown. An account by Robert Beverely described an Indian attack on the colony on March 22, 1622, which killed 347 colonial settlers. The attack was deceptive in that the Indians, who had been on friendly terms with the colony, came into Jamestown as friends, as they often had, and then turned on colonists. Here is Beverely’s description of the attack.
    The very morning of the massacre they [the Indians] came freely and unarmed among them, eating with them and behaving themselves with the same freedom and friendship as formerly till the very minute they were to put their plot in execution. Then they fell to work all at once everywhere, knocking the English unawares on the head, some with their hatchets, which they call tomahawks, others with the hoes and axes of the English themselves, shooting at those who escaped the reach of their hands, sparing neither age nor sex but destroying man, woman, and child according to their cruel way of leaving none behind to bear resentment. But whatever was not done by surprise that day was left undone, and many that made early resistance escaped.
    I doubt that any ethnically identifiable descendants of the Powhatan tribe exist today, but let’s suppose they did exist on some reservation like the present-day descendants of other tribes. What would public reaction be if the president of the United States should say that he was going to exact the penalty for what the Powhatan tribe had done at Jamestown in 1622 and then sent army troops onto their reservation to destroy totally all of them, including women, children, and infants, along with any livestock they might have? Do you suppose there would be any public outrage if such a deed as this were done? The Nazi holocaust happened just some 50-60 years ago, but what would world reaction be if the Israelis, who almost certainly have atomic weapons, should send a fleet of bombers into Germany to nuke them on the pretense of “extracting penalty” for what had been done to Jews during the Nazi era? Do you suppose there would be any cries of outrage around the world?
    At times, I get the impression as I am going through Mr. Miller’s article that he is laying down a smokescreen by talking about “predators” and “raiders” to try to hide from his readers what the Bible really says about the Amalekite massacre, but if this is his intention, I urge readers to look through the smoke. For pity’s sake, the Bible plainly says that “God” gave a command to destroy completely the Amalekites of Saul’s day for something that their ancestors had done 430 years earlier. There is just no way to whitewash this incident and make it morally acceptable.”

  33. Ricardo said on January 5th, 2009 at 4:34pm #

    How can you say that they warned the people to flee, if the borders are CLOSED….>??????????????????

    How can you even begin to compare 4 deaths, vs. 450….??????


  34. Merc, said on January 6th, 2009 at 1:30pm #

    The entire world is watching as Israel is trying to justify it’s actions. Not just the Arabs but Muslims all over the world know what is happening. It won’t be long until Americans will start to realize that Israel is not defending itself, but acting with criminal acts against an already deprived people. Israel is by far the most nastiest country. Israel defends itself against those that want to wipe it off the map, but lets not forgot who invented that idea. Israel wiped Palestine off the map a long time ago. Its funny how everything Israel does is so justifiable, but people around world are realizing that Israel is a self-destructive terrorist state owned and operated by Zionists that control the West. On a final note, Barack Obama is sure showing his true colors now. Hope he had a great golf trip in Hawaii while over 500 people, mainly children and women died.

  35. rob said on January 6th, 2009 at 4:11pm #

    i would like to quote a paragraph from an article in reply to christian apologetic support of jewish killing of non-jewish races:

    “For the sake of argument, let’s just assume that despite having said that the Israelites were to destroy totally the Canaanites and to leave none of them alive to breathe, Yahweh meant only that those who refused to “migrate” out of the land were to be killed. What would be moral about ordering people to abandon their homes, fields, vineyards, wells, etc., which they had worked to build and maintain, and go to another land? Let’s suppose that the United States should try to end the fiasco in Iraq by ordering all of the people to leave and go to other countries with the warning that those who stayed would be killed. If such an order were issued, would Mr. Miller defend the morality of killing those who stayed in Iraq?”


  36. rob said on January 6th, 2009 at 4:13pm #



  37. W said on January 6th, 2009 at 10:37pm #

    Thank you for this article. It makes a lot more sense and sounds more logical.

  38. Grub said on January 7th, 2009 at 8:18am #

    How about hamas firing rockets before the strike?

    Is that also a lie?

  39. Jeremy R. Hammond said on January 7th, 2009 at 7:55pm #

    Hamas fired no rockets before the Nov. 4 Israeli strike. Israel, not Hamas, ended the cease fire.

  40. Brian said on January 7th, 2009 at 8:16pm #

    Jeremy is correct.

    Israel is the aggressor…and illegal occupier.

  41. Ahmed said on January 8th, 2009 at 4:54am #

    It is an outrage to hear that there are still people who are persistently trying to find a justification for myriad of war crimes and atrocities committed throughout Palestine with latest in Gaza strip.

    I am amazed how can a decent human being shrug when faced with the images of children, elderly, women and innocent civilians killed by IDF in what they call a “targeted attack on militants” albeit the Gaza strip prevents any real targeting what so ever as it simply too densely populated area.

    To add insult to misery Gaza strip is, in fact, overly populated due to long-term invasion by Israeli settlers who took the land where these people could have otherwise lived, chunk-by-chunk and peace by peace ….

    And, while all this is taking place, the world shrugs, the leaders talk incessantly about the need for stopping civilian casulaties over their fancy dinners and while sipping their fine wines ….

    What have we become …. how can we face ourselves in the mirrors after seeing the scenes of dead children on countless TV reports …. how many of these innocent poor souls have to die before someone puts an end to this … ?

    May God help us all …

  42. Shimshon said on June 20th, 2009 at 1:03am #

    Where have you all been while for eight years Quassam rockets where falling on Israel?? Israel didn’t want to attack anybody in Gaza, but Hamas gave Israel no choice. You should blame Hamas and not Israel!

  43. mary said on June 20th, 2009 at 4:03am #

    Where have you been for the last five months? Has Hasbara summoned you?

  44. bozh said on June 20th, 2009 at 6:26am #

    we were very busy watching euros steal land from 1917 by terrorism and expulsion of 750,000 of children, women, old men from palestine.

    then we watched Iraeli aggression of ’67 and theft of all of palestine. We saw ‘settling’ of gaza and later siege of gaza, assassination of pals, torture, abduction, man hunts, jenin, gaza raid, three invasions of lebanon, israel’s attack against egypt ’56, etcetc.

    yes we watched qassams and suicide bombers. tnx