Hugo Chavez vs RCTV

President Hugo Chavez’s refusal to renew the license of Radio Caracas Television might seem to justify fears that Chavez is crushing free speech and eliminating any voices critical of him.

Amnesty International, Human Rights Watch, the Committee to Protect Journalists and members of the European Parliament, the U.S. Senate and even Chile’s Congress have denounced the closure of RCTV, Venezuela’s oldest private television network. Chavez’s detractors got more ammunition Tuesday when the president included another opposition network, Globovision, among the “enemies of the homeland.”

But the case of RCTV — like most things involving Chavez — has been caught up in a web of misinformation. While one side of the story is getting headlines around the world, the other is barely heard.

The demise of RCTV is indeed a sad event in some ways for Venezuelans. Founded in 1953, it was an institution in the country, having produced the long-running political satire program “Radio Rochela” and the blisteringly realistic nighttime soap opera “Por Estas Calles.” It was RCTV that broadcast the first live-from-satellite images in Venezuela when it showed Neil Armstrong walking on the moon in 1969.

But after Chavez was elected president in 1998, RCTV shifted to another endeavor: ousting a democratically elected leader from office. Controlled by members of the country’s fabulously wealthy oligarchy including RCTV chief Marcel Granier, it saw Chavez and his “Bolivarian Revolution” on behalf of Venezuela’s majority poor as a threat.

RCTV’s most infamous effort to topple Chavez came during the April 11, 2002, coup attempt against him. For two days before the putsch, RCTV preempted regular programming and ran wall-to-wall coverage of a general strike aimed at ousting Chavez. A stream of commentators spewed nonstop vitriolic attacks against him — while permitting no response from the government.

Then RCTV ran nonstop ads encouraging people to attend a march on April 11 aimed at toppling Chavez and broadcast blanket coverage of the event. When the march ended in violence, RCTV and Globovision ran manipulated video blaming Chavez supporters for scores of deaths and injuries.

After military rebels overthrew Chavez and he disappeared from public view for two days, RCTV’s biased coverage edged fully into sedition. Thousands of Chavez supporters took to the streets to demand his return, but none of that appeared on RCTV or other television stations. RCTV News Director Andres Izarra later testified at National Assembly hearings on the coup attempt that he received an order from superiors at the station: “Zero pro-Chavez, nothing related to Chavez or his supporters…. The idea was to create a climate of transition and to start to promote the dawn of a new country.” While the streets of Caracas burned with rage, RCTV ran cartoons, soap operas and old movies such as “Pretty Woman.” On April 13, 2002, Granier and other media moguls met in the Miraflores palace to pledge support to the country’s coup-installed dictator, Pedro Carmona, who had eliminated the Supreme Court, the National Assembly and the Constitution.

Would a network that aided and abetted a coup against the government be allowed to operate in the United States? The U.S. government probably would have shut down RCTV within five minutes after a failed coup attempt — and thrown its owners in jail. Chavez’s government allowed it to continue operating for five years, and then declined to renew its 20-year license to use the public airwaves. It can still broadcast on cable or via satellite dish.

Granier and others should not be seen as free-speech martyrs. Radio, TV and newspapers remain uncensored, unfettered and unthreatened by the government. Most Venezuelan media are still controlled by the old oligarchy and are staunchly anti-Chavez.

If Granier had not decided to try to oust the country’s president, Venezuelans might still be able to look forward to more broadcasts of “Radio Rochela.”

This article was first published in the Los Angeles Times.

Bart Jones spent eight years in Venezuela, mainly as a foreign correspondent for the Associated Press, and is the author of the forthcoming book "Hugo! The Hugo Chavez Story, From Mud Hut to Perpetual". Read other articles by Bart, or visit Bart's website.

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  1. VENEZUELA said on June 2nd, 2007 at 5:33am #


    My Father is 57 years old, my Mom is 52 (both were born here in Venezuela) and they pretty much have seen a lot of Presidents, a lot of situations, Democracy and Dictatorship, they have seen good and bad times, and they both agree that this President has been the Worst… He has built in some Venezuelan’s hearts “hate” and “envy”.

    Mr. Jones, I am sure that you know that Chavez participated in a coup against Carlos Andres Perez (President of Venezuela back then)… In Venezuela we say do not do to other what you don’t want they do to you… If he says that those that try to revoke his Presidency on 2002 are Criminals, then CHAVEZ IS A CRIMINAL AS WELL!!!

    Chavez Do not help the poor people, He wants the people to live, think and do what he wants, He is not really against the rich people, He is against the Knowledge, the freedom, and the Time… He wants to have a Presidency like his friends Fidel and Hussein; they lived like King while the people were dying.

    – Ignorance is the best weapon for the socialism
    – Fear is the word of trust for the socialism
    – Silence is the best way to say what you want under the socialism
    – Dependency to the Government is the plan of Chavez to stay in Power

    Sir, you really need more that 8 years to understand our needs, our thoughts and believes… You need more that 8 years to tell my parents that Venezuela is having the best President ever… You need more than 8 years living in Venezuela to believe what you just said in your comment…

    – My Country’s name is Venezuela an Not “Republica Bolivariana de Venezuela”
    – My Flag has 7 stars an not 8 as he change it
    – We have de right to watch, eat and dress what WE want
    Please don’t tell me Chavez is the solution because he has been our DESTRUCTION!!!!


    “Sometimes Ignorance is a privilege”.

  2. Kim Petersen said on June 2nd, 2007 at 5:53am #

    VENEZUELA, you have a right to watch what you like, and say what you like, and to decide. RCTV, however, does not have a right to own the airwaves.
    As for Carlos Andrés Pérez, he ran as a socialist and then embraced neoliberalism which hurt the poor of Venezuela leading to mass protests and two coup attempts against him. If Chávez betrays his socialism and the people suffer, then a coup to restore the will of the people could be justified. That is not what happened in the 2002 CIA-backed coup attempt.
    Time will tell if vanity and arrogance overwhelm Chávez and he becomes a president-for-life like Castro. It would be a move open to much criticism.

  3. VENEZUELA said on June 2nd, 2007 at 6:17am #

    Dear Sir… I really see how much you think you know about my Country. People always talk about the rich and privileged people, so I ask you to name those huge companies because as I KNOW there are few of them, the rest are people that came from poverty and DESIDE not to live like that their whole life…

    What make you think that all people that have something they were born with money in their beds???…..
    YES, there are poor people in my country and we need to help them to be educated people, help them to work and find their own food and not feeding them as animals in a ZOO!!

    Because that’s what Socialism is all about, maintain people depending on the Government, live for them, CHAVEZ wants to make as blind and deaf people, because you cannot believe on Democracy or freedom when de Government controls averything… What would you say if Bush desides to cancel all broadcast company and maybe maintain one or two and the rest talking all about his Government and how well hi is doing it… That’s should be OK for you… Am I wrong???

    You cannot help to the progress of the people when you want to bring everybody into a huge hole… You need to bring EVERYBODY to the Hill of the Mountain!!!!

  4. Paul said on June 2nd, 2007 at 9:42am #

    So you don’t like President Chávez? Why don’t you vote him out of office then? Oh, wait a minute, Venezuelans keep voting for Chávez in ever bigger numbers… maybe the opposition can try a coup…

  5. jose de PR said on June 2nd, 2007 at 1:15pm #

    i think manypeople here confuse “free speech” to do whaterever they want irresponsibly and ilegally and then pretend NOBODY cant touch them.

    i think, if there were an error in venezuelan’s goverment was not to settle the score right there and then when RCTV willingly participated in an ilegal action against the people and waited 5 years for them, quietly, to go away. but like i say, even if it was 5 years the govermnet has the right not to valid the permission to RCTV.

    What i find disgusting is that if a media was involved in a coup in another democratic country like the United States or the United Kingdom the international view would back up any action that this countries could take agaisnt that media…but in Venezuela is different. The international views is that Venezuela should take whatever their enemies, opposition and retractors throw at them.

    but anyway, what makes this more wonderful and beautiful is the citizens of Venezuela is not easily manipulated by all this elements and continue to support their goverment even with all this agaisnt them.

  6. VENEZUELA said on June 2nd, 2007 at 3:56pm #

    My intention is no to change anybody’s ideas but to tell the other side of the history, the side we really live here… I wonder what make people think that corruption that not exist under Chavez Government where you can PAY few thousand of Bolivares to a Cop if he stops you for a traffic ticket or drugs or better yet avoid jail… What make you think that corruption doesn’t exist when the Government has so much money for Constructions that it doesn’t accomplish any construction requirements because what really matters is have the work done and make people happy…

    I DO believe that the same corruption exist when we vote, has always been and this is not the exception, with the only difference that NOW there is a lot of money involve and a lot of people that refuse to loose it.

    CHAVEZ is as bad or worst than any other Venezuelan president, but the difference is that because of the OIL price he has money and He can work on his POLITICS….
    He always opens his mouth saying that he helps all Venezuelan poor people, BUT I wonder if he doesn’t know that our poor People is in VENEZUELA and not in this countries:

    – US$260 million in financing to repave a Jamaican highway
    – US$17 million in upgrades to airports on the Caribbean islands of Antigua and Dominica
    – US$5 million for a Uruguayan tire plant, glass business and leather factory as part of a $400 million flow of aid since March 2005, when Uruguay’s leftist President Tabare Vazquez took office, according to the Venezuelan Embassy in Uruguay.
    – Venezuelan bulldozers have already begun clearing land at Dominica’s Melville Hall Airport for a longer runway to boost tourism. Under Petrocaribe, a deal bringing Venezuelan oil to needy Caribbean countries, the island has received asphalt, fuel storage tanks, university scholarships and $12 million for housing.
    – Venezuela also bought or pledged to buy more than $3.6 billion in bonds from Argentina, Ecuador and Bolivia to help them cover deficits. Most of that — $3.5 billion — went to Argentina, helping a leftist ally pay off its World Bank and International Monetary Fund debts.
    – According to several published reports, Venezuela currently exports about 90,000 barrels of crude oil a day to Cuba, but there are well-documented reports that the Cuban regime of Fidel Castro is hundreds of millions of dollars in arrears to Venezuela.

    What this information tells me is that Chavez is not helping us he is just helping himself. And as I said previously Money is on the table, and what the “poor people” receive is the left over of Chavez’s gifts to Cuba, Bolivia, Argentina, Nicaragua and a lot of other countries but not ours…. Believe me He is not so different from previous President just a little bit worst creating hate and envy….

    Money comes and goes but our felling stays for many years as a scar, and that’s what He is doing with the people… There is a lot of damage here…!! Is sad…

  7. jose de PR said on June 2nd, 2007 at 5:55pm #

    “What this information tells me is that Chavez is not helping us he is just helping himself”-

    and dont forget how venezuela is helping the poor in the United States.

    yes, all that list shows how chavez is helping himself by helping others. thats the way to do it, u know? u want to help yourself, help other. i think even paul McCartney even sings about it.

    u are funny. the usual politician uses the national resources to help their rich friends to become more richer and the politician more influential. thisis the same way but all the way around; chavez and his goverment uses the national resources to help the people to a better life and with dignity while he become more influential.

    politics is a trashy business but if one has to take it, i prefer the venezuelan way.

  8. Max Shields said on June 2nd, 2007 at 6:22pm #

    VENEZUELA, I won’t deny you your reality. But those who have tracked the history in Latin America have seen the pattern. It is not to to claim impunity for Chavez . There is, and should always be a watchful eye on power. It is a corrupting force.

    But the facts (in this case a concensus of international news reports) are clear: there was a coup attempt and RCTV (among other media) were complict. It is entirely beside the point to put the Chavez government under a microscope and find it wanting in some regards. Chavez was democratically elected 3 times by the Venezuelan people.

    What we know is that the US history in Latin America has been atrocious – through a century of gun boat diplomacy, of toppling one regime after another who did not do “business” with the US (even when that gov’t was democratically elected). A persistant embargo of Cuba which is one of a kind, is but one example of an imperial, a Monroe doctrine US boot.

    So, you come to the wrong place if you’re looking for sympathy for the elitist media and those in the ranks of the elite (whether they in them or have their sights set on being in that concentration of wealth that happens under capitalism). The gap between the wealthiest and the poorest are no where greater than it has been in those South American countries who have been under the aegis of American imperialism and neoliberalism.

  9. VENEZUELA said on June 2nd, 2007 at 8:14pm #

    As I said, I am not trying to change nobody’s ideas; I am just telling you a few facts. And yes I might have come to the “wrong place” looking for “sympathy” as Max Shields said BUT I in fact what I do like is exchange Ideas, I love others people point of view… That’s why I love DEMOCRACY don’t you???

    “u are funny. the usual politician uses the national resources to help their rich friends to become more richer and the politician more influential. thisis the same way but all the way around;”

    Maybe I am “FUNNY” as you said “jose de PR” but not as blind as you are… Chavez has been in Power for already NINE YEARS and he has done so little for Us that’s not even funny… Don’t you see it?? Chavez does no want anybody to talk about all money he gives away; He doesn’t want anybody to talk anything that has nothing to do with the so call “Revolution” HE WANTS TO HAVE THE ONLY and FINAL WORD.

    He closed already RCTV and probably GLOBOVISION is going to be the next one, and then Chavez will control the whole media… And you think that is correct? Come on give me a break Chavez is making it very clear He is a Dictator!!

    Socialism the magic word for the poor people, followed for many important people as Mr. Charles Hardy (as an example) who I supposed might be Homeless or at least he gives a big percentage of all his income to the “poor people”, because according to his politic view been rich is a bad thing…

    Have you heard how Cuban people live everyday?? Have you even gone to that poor Country? Well, they have a very simple live try to think what they are going eat, dress, or find some dollars while their president live as a King and have beautiful banking account with maybe half a dozen of Zeros… Socialism is a joke…

    Socialism will never be an option to anybody because we all are different, some likes to work hard and have a million dollar house, some prefer stay in the house not going to work and just receive a pension, some likes to do exercise and some just love to eat…

    I just invite you to live for a month in Cuba “with the poor people” or Venezuela with the poor People and you will understand what I am talking about…

  10. stephen said on June 3rd, 2007 at 2:47am #

    to expand the authors thoughts, what would happen if a “liberal” member of the united states military went on anderson cooper’s show on CNN and openly threatened the presidency of george bush? then a few days later bush was toppled, and replaced with george soros, who then dissolved all of the government institutions? and all the while, CNN cheered this on, and/or ignored what was happening at the most important moments? then two days later, bush was restored to power?

    would these guys not drop through the floor of the gallows, with a rope around their necks? would lou dobbs and larry king have the opportunity to start new tv shows on the food network, or sci-fi? if soros fled to cuba, would the united states not pursue him to the end?

    in answering that last question, keep in mind that this is a country that has destroyed iraq and afghanistan, along with huge sectors of central america. it has also viciously bombed libya and sudan during the time that the current officialdom has occupied various offices in the government. despite his shortcomings (whatever they are), perhaps chavez’s fairly civilized response to the threats on his life comes from the fact that venezuela doesn’t have a long history of international aggression. our barbarians could be counted on to destroy everything in their path to pursue coup plotters.

  11. jose de PR said on June 3rd, 2007 at 4:19am #

    venezuela, u talk as if poverty is only an exclusive of venezuela and cuba and by default socialism doesnt work. i want u, some day, to visit Puerto Rico and see how in loiza and the poor lives, and this is an island that thinks that capitalism and democracy is the same. and if one good thing the hurricane katrina did was to open up the discussion of poverty in the united states and i dont think that this country practices socialism.

    i want u think too why thousands of central americans tries to cross the border to the United States; this not trying to escape socialism or chavez. this people comes from countries that hold capitalism dearly and they too are poor. i dont think that mexico, guatemala, el salvador or whatherver country has the same system of cuba or maybe venezuela…but anyway, they are poor too.

    to understand this u have to know a lil of history; things dont pop up like magic and then have the nerve to say that this countries are wrong. all this countries have their history and part of the way that they are like they are has to do with other external factors that shape their economic, social and politics ways.

    venezuela, i invite u to read “las venas abiertas de latinoamerica” by eduardo galeano. it was written in the early 70’s but it will make u understand why many latinamerican countries are in the shape that they are. then, after reading it, come here and i want to know if u continue to say that cuba or venezuela things are miserable because castro or chavez are monsters.

  12. Hue Longer said on June 3rd, 2007 at 6:21am #

    Classism and racism is very strong in Venezuela where those profiting from their spoons would naturally be worried if not upset by an African/Indian New Dealist (better than using isms all the time) in the palace. Some of those spoons wouldn’t look golden to their management class counterparts in America, but make no mistake, the poor are way happier about Chavez than the “middle class” who enjoy and can afford to watch television like most US residents. I don’t have the numbers, or facts in front of me, but maybe VENEZUELA (the username) can tell me about the educational and medical access Chavez is providing to the poor (it must be said that the poor are truly poor and represent the vast majority of your country). I don’t think the US government would sponsor classes teaching the poor how to get involved with their government either.

    I’ll end with a story of a young friend of mine who traveled to Caracas and stayed with a family…Upon returning, he informed me that I was wrong about Chavez and that the people actually hated him. I asked if the family he stayed with was educated and he said that they were with two teenaged sons attending college. I may not have been to Venezuela before, but I don’t think his arguments about how modest this family lived convinced me that he had either.

  13. VENEZUELA said on June 3rd, 2007 at 9:49am #

    Once again I proof myself that Socialism is not a realistic solution for society, we actually can spend years talking about the same matter and maybe we would agree someday (who knows), and you are right “Juan de PR” there is a lot of people running from Mexico, Guatemala, El Salvador, etc… But don’t forget there are also people living from Cuba, China, North Korea, etc… (Please note that China is moving slowly to the capitalism)…
    Look I understand your feeling when you say that Capitalism is not the solution and I can tell you the Socialism is not either… And why I know??? Well, I know it because I have lived in both systems.

    Unfortunately politic is a dirty thing to work with and I which those people that studies it stop thinking on systems that where design half a century ago and maybe create a realistic system that bring all of us to the success.

    I do not agree completely to the Capitalism because I do not think that you can progress at any cost (been careless for other people’s benefits), but I firmly believe that we all can progress if our government help us to do it.

    I do not AGREE with the Socialism because if Rich people is bad people, well you are looking at your own future, they want you to keep been poor and miserable.

    Capitalism at least gives you a hope that if you make an effort you can have a better life; maybe your dream will come true… Please don’t tell me you don’t have dreams of success, because that has been our Human nature since the caveman exists… They wanted a better life and they found it, and that’s our NATURE and nobody can deny it.

    Socialism, not only take away for dreams, take away your children, your belonging because you do not know what is good for you, they want to guide you all the time. And I am sorry to hear somebody to agree with this but I BELIEVE on myself, I am not handicap and I believe I deserve all I can work for.

    I hope we all can understand that we are in the same line but in opposite extremes and we need to find that middle point that will bring us together to the same or similar benefits…

    Books, beautiful books I love them I think that’s another proof of Human imagination and desire to be away of all these bad people and bad Governments. I will find the book you mentioned and will read it very carefully, and believe me I will come back and we will talk about it… if you want to… I am not afraid to the true I AM AFRAID OF THE PEOPLE who tries to show you only one side of the history…

    We actually see what we want to see and hear what we want to hear… And I really hope good luck to you folks for your adventure on finding you Socialism Salvation.
    I am done with it, simply because I KNOW Venezuelan people (actually WE ALL) deserve more than these Governments wants to give us, I KNOW we have the power to build our own destiny and I KNOW we all are capable to progress and make our dreams become true!!! I just Don’t believe on Limits!!

  14. jose de PR said on June 3rd, 2007 at 11:27am #

    yourself…you… well, a vast majority in venezuela is not you nor your dearly parents… and the vast majority has given the vote to mr. chavez so he can continue his socialism of the 21st century (whatever that means) and that is what counts.

    so cry, “patalea todo lo que tu quieras” and protest all that you want because the way this is “painting” there is chavez for a long time.

  15. VENEZUELA said on June 3rd, 2007 at 2:35pm #

    You know Jose de PR, I hoped more from you… But that’s Ok… God bless you.

  16. Max Shields said on June 3rd, 2007 at 7:17pm #

    VENEZUELA, this is not about “socialism” it is about the concentration of wealth in the hands of a few. Latin American has been replete with such deep inequities. Chavez was put into office to correct that course.

    The history in South America has been one of ruling elites (and a small middle class vying for the fruits of capitalism) who control the national wealth and power. That includes the media that is owned and operated by the very people Chavez is in office to replace. Venezuelan law (pre-Chavez) gives the government licensing rights that can be given and taken away (the FCC can do the same here) from stations or carriers such as RCTV.

    Now, if you have something against doctrinaire Marxism or some sort of socialism, than fine. I don’t think Chavez represents that kind of “socialism”, it’s more of a social democratic and anti-imperialist agenda. If you can provide facts to support how the vast majority of the peasents were better off before Chavez – be my guest. Or if you have facts that the elections are rigged, then present them.

    Otherwise you’re beginning to sound like the same tired noice we’ve heard from Cubans for the past 50 years since Castro ran Batista out of town.

  17. Deadbeat said on June 4th, 2007 at 6:13am #

    The biggest “lie” in this episode is the media “reporting” that Chavez “closed” RCTV. Even “Democracy Now!” engaged in this same smear. Chavez chose not to renew their license to use the public airwaves. And in fact those NGO’s that criticized Chavez did more to reveal their own hypocrisies and duplicities. These NGO really need to be scrutinized to their true role to diffuse activism and to misinform the public.

  18. Max Shields said on June 4th, 2007 at 7:47am #

    While I agree that the news media has distorted the issue of licence renewal with “closing down” RCTV and that is a very important distinction. Interesting observation about Democracy Now. It was a debate but the title of the segment was completely wrong (I agree). Nevertheless, on balance, the debate was well handled by Goodman and Gonsales who moderated.

    There are some historical complexities that I think (and here I’m giving DN the benefit of the doubt given their excellent reporting heretofore) may have led to the ambivelance and desire for a “debate” rather than giving just the Chavez side.

    But Goodman highlighted the excellent documentary: The Revolution Will Not Be Televised, by filmmakers Kim Bartley and Donnacha O’Briain. This was the backdrop to the debate; and the first statement made by ANDRES IZARRA, was: “President Chavez hasn’t shut down any TV station. The concession has expired after fifty-three years, and the government decided not to renew the concession, because it needed to develop a national public service television. There is no shutdown at all.”

    Here’s the link of that show in case anyone wants to see the rushed transcript or view the podcast.

  19. Binh said on June 4th, 2007 at 8:04am #

    Chavez should have jailed the management of the station immediately after the coup. If a TV station tries to help overthrow a democratically elected government, closing it down is defending democracy, not an attack “free speech.” Chavez has been incredibly lenient towards the right-wing neo-liberal pro-U.S. hysterical nutjobs who make up the opposition – they should be happy they weren’t treated the way the Jacobins or the Bolsheviks treated counterrevolutionaries.

  20. Hue Longer said on June 5th, 2007 at 3:56am #

    “Chavez Shuts Down Venezuelan TV Station as Supporters, Opponents Rally: A Debate on the Closing of RCTV”. We shouldn’t give anyone the benefit of the doubt until they retract that nonsense. I listen to DN every day but it NPR’s up a bit at times. Listening to Amy Goodman stay incredibly neutral as she has PR hacks filibuster a whole segment can be painful, damn fair and balanced (a format they’ve jumped to since being picked up by NPR a couple years back). Objectivity means calling bullshit…ESPECIALY when it’s your own

  21. Hue Longer said on June 5th, 2007 at 4:01am #

    Another funny thing I’ve noticed is that many progressives are afraid to back Chavez because they remember great minds that had supported Mao and Stalin lose all credibility later when facts were revealed. truth is truth and is not owned by any man… whether Stalin, Castro, Jesus or Atilla…If this guy is doing the right thing…celebrate the right thing!

  22. Max Shields said on June 5th, 2007 at 8:39am #

    Hue Longer
    “Another funny thing I’ve noticed is that many progressives are afraid to back Chavez because they remember great minds that had supported Mao and Stalin lose all credibility later when facts were revealed. truth is truth and is not owned by any man… whether Stalin, Castro, Jesus or Atilla…If this guy is doing the right thing…celebrate the right thing!”

    I think there are people who are not discerning. I see no reason to celebrate Chavez’s non-renewal of a license. What’s to celebrate? A decision was made, it is a legal decision, and the station seems to be a threat to the democracy (the people) who voted for Chavez – so I agree with his actions on all levels. He dealt with an abuse of power within the context of Venezualian law – in this case the abuse of a priviledged media outlet.

    Broad brushing “many progressives” is highly speculative. I do not purport to be an expert on current Venzuelan affairs. This could be a tranformative moment for Latin Ameria. As such much of what happens is in reaction to the mighty “devil” to the north. Castro’s Cuba is a perfect case in point. Only now do we see a vision in Cuba which is not entirely (operative word) tied to the strategic hegemony of the Soviet Union and the US.

    My judgements are not permanent – if DN slips into the comatose of quasi-alternative I’ll re-think it. But it is an alternative. If I want straight up, no bars hold support for Chavez I’ll read “Socialism and Liberation” magazine.

    Btw, DN did an excellent interview with Mahmood Mamdani on Darfur: “The Politics of Naming: Genocide, Civil War, Insurgency”, based on an article he wrote for the London Times Book Review – truly the best study I’ve read (minus polemics, to be sure) of the situation.

  23. Hue Longer said on June 5th, 2007 at 1:08pm #

    Fair enough Max…I should have prefaced with, “Off topic…”