Canadian “Porn King” Randy Jorgensen’s tourism “development” projects are stirring up conflict and destroying afro-descendant Garifuna communities in Trujillo on the north coast of Honduras

Jorgensen, president of the Canadian pornographic video store chain Adults Only Video through his real estate development company Life Vision Properties plans to convert a beautiful coastal area of Trujillo into a large scale tourism project that includes a series of vacation home developments and a cruise ship dock, displacing and destroying indigenous Garifuna communities.

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http://www.pej.org/html/modules.php?op=modload&name=News&file=article&sid=8620&mode=thread&order=0&thold=0

There’s a light wind coming in from the West and yes Australia is in big trouble first so is America the king of oil, oh we are the king of something alright.

I have not seen the film and have no intention of doing so.

What would the late King have to say about his sleazy grandson Andrew? When he is not being rude and obnoxious to the lower orders (as he perceives them to be) as he travels round flogging arms and weapons, he is keeping this type of company.

{http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1361039/Prince-Andrew-girl-17-sex-offender-friend-flew-Britain-meet-him.html}

PS The best speech ever given at the Oscars was this pne of ‘non acceptance’ by the beautiful Sacheen Littlefeather on behalf of Marlon Brando.
{http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2QUacU0I4yU}

That’s what I call style and poise.

‘whatever the hell “animalism” label means’ is urs. i didn’t say that. why such misrepresentation?
u’r mad, right. i think that if u continue to misrepresent what i actually say. i’ll flag u for that and see if DV wld remove such dishonest behavior. tnx

OK. In each of my critique of your commentary bozh I have never level a personal attack or THREAT like you’ve done here on Dissident Voice. Now you boldface attempt to deny your labeling of humanity as “animalistic” yet you wrote right here the following …

bozh said on February 27th, 2011 at 2:01pm #

i said we became animalistic. in fact, we were converted by religion to another: into animalism or animalistic behavior. and we never left it!

So before you engage in ANY threats bozh you better have your facts straight otherwise it is yet another one of your many CONTRADICTIONS that I often site as evidence of your many fallacies.

“besides, nearly everything i posit, had already been said; in all lands and thruout the ages.
people who hate what we posit put the ancient ruse on unwary people: they marginalize or attribute the ideas facts a i posit to one person.”

i finished reading this post and i and i was laughing in surprised pleasure. . your note was astute, interesting and frankly, to my mind, very divergent in content and style from your usual manner of address.. i salute you in friendship and thank you for your post.

supremacy may also mean high or total control by military means of some areas.areas!
religious supremacism invokes tacitly also etern infallibility.”we were converted by religion to another: into animalism or animalistic behavior what ever the hell “animalism” label means.

‘we were converted by religion to another: into animalism or animalistic behavior
what ever the hell “animalism” label means.’

‘whatever the hell “animalism” label means’ is urs. i didn’t say that. why such misrepresentation?
u’r mad, right.
i think that if u continue to misrepresent what i actually say. i’ll flag u for that and see if DV wld remove such dishonest behavior. tnx

“converted to another religion”. the word “converted” to another religion may have mislead some people.
however, if the statement wld be put in the context of everything i said thus far in this regard, it wld be clear to each of my readers [if they cld remember everything i said about sacerdotal class] that the usurpers of a irreligious class of life, were at first sorcerers, followed by magicians, wizards, shamans, and finally priests.

by being impious i mean to say that our ancestors of 10-15 k yrs ago may have believed in god or whatever; however, had no organized religion.

once organized religion [and structured just like an army; proclaimed infallible] was set up, the hell broke loose on our heads.

i think i have only said thousand and one time that i do not blame the victims, say, in most lands, 98% of people.
the victimizers are solely priests and the ‘nobility’. these people are the greatest criminal minds.
i am positively surprised that some sites don’t delete just what i have said now!

the reason that the ruling class in u.s. gets more votes than in any land [about 99%] is because of the fact that it controls almost totally curriculum, education, information, entertainment, etc.

about my use of “animalism”, it was a poor choice to describe how we behave.
i often use the words “inhumane”, “criminal”, etc. in its stead.
but, look no label wld suffice anyway! tnx

so the question wld arise regarding labeling and the fact that it does not elucidate any situation is to ask the writer: after what facts u label, say priests, “the greatest criminal minds”?

alas, i have listed their crimes hundred of times. if people read my posts with anger, hostilities, etc., or blitzread and blitz understand, it is not my fault.
there are just too many bellicose and uncivil people also on this site.

i do not always understand what is written. on occasion, i have to reared a paragraph more than two times before i grasp it. on other occasions, i just give up but seldom attack the person or person’s writing when i do respond. tnx

Morpheus: The Matrix is a system, Neo. That system is our enemy. But when you’re inside, you look around, what do you see? Businessmen, teachers, lawyers, carpenters. The very minds of the people we are trying to save. But until we do, these people are still a part of that system and that makes them our enemy. You have to understand, most of these people are not ready to be unplugged. And many of them are so inured, so hopelessly dependent on the system, that they will fight to protect it.
[Neo's eyes suddenly wander towards a woman in a red dress]
Morpheus: Were you listening to me, Neo? Or were you looking at the woman in the red dress?
Neo: I was…
Morpheus: [gestures with one hand] Look again.
[the woman in the red dress is now Agent Smith, pointing a gun at Neo's head; Neo ducks]
Morpheus: Freeze it.
[Everybody and everything besides Neo and Morpheus freezes in time]
Neo: This… this isn’t the Matrix?
Morpheus: No. It is another training program designed to teach you one thing: if you are not one of us, you are one of them. Matrix

Yes came close but no cigar and this man smoked a pipe and nailed it.

A human being is part of the whole called by us universe, a part limited in time and space. We experience ourselves, our thoughts and feelings as something separate from the rest. A kind of optical delusion of consciousness. This delusion is a kind of prison for us, restricting us to our personal desires and to affection for a few persons nearest to us. Our task must be to free ourselves from the prison by widening our circle of compassion to embrace all living creatures and the whole of nature in its beauty. The true value of a human being is determined by the measure and the sense in which they have obtained liberation from the self. We shall require a substantially new manner of thinking if humanity is to survive. (Albert Einstein, 1954)

i said we became animalistic. in fact, we were converted by religion to another: into animalism or animalistic behavior. and we never left it!

I have to agree with penelope l.m.s. kelly comments about your remarks. Your remarks which consumes a great deal of bandwidth here are in severe contradiction. It would be one thing if your comments remained consistent but here you go saying that you agree with Jensen’s stereotyping of humanity.

On the one hand you claim to be against “supremacy” which is a recognition of power imbalances (just like Jensen acknowledgment of Capitalism) but on the other hand you go on to say… we were converted by religion to another: into animalism or animalistic behavior what ever the hell “animalism” label means.

As far as I know animals have never set up commodities arrangements that interfere with their natural interactions but Capitalists imposed this relationship on humanity and the vast majority of human beings are not Capitalists.

Thus what you and Jensen have in common are contradictory rhetoric that fill up useful space for serious analysis and discussion. That both you and Jensen can argue two entirely CONTRADICTORY axioms — supremacy and blame the victim demonstrates how so called “thinkers” are really verbal charlatans who waste precious time shifting the focus and obscuring rational analysis of real problems that are in vital need of radical solutions.

yes, i agree with this observation. i cld even evaluate parts of it as factual.
i’d like to add to this observation the fact that in civility-civic affairs we long ago became [pardon the extremity] animalistic to one another and also to an ‘alien’ folk or group of people.

i said we became animalistic. in fact, we were converted by religion to another: into animalism or animalistic behavior. and we never left it!
if a-bombings of innocent people [innocent even by u.s. definition of innocence] do not prove how inhumane a people can get then i do not know what else cld u.s. do to prove it!
ok? we can discount one mn dead, 4mn refugees in iraq as a proof, since it can and will be topped, so we can await it and use it as another proof that an admixture of people and cults in a region called u.s. can behave bestially.

and vast number of americans appear totally oblivious of these facts.
in fact, 99& of them just voted for more of the same.

but even most journalists-contributors and on all sites i have thus visited seem to underestimate the perils which some voelken and people face from u.s. supremacists.
so, jensen is right in saying that! u.s. evil is awesome!!! tnx

From there, questions about the inherent economic injustice in capitalism and the violence required for U.S. imperial domination of the world became central. Finally, I began thinking more about how human domination of the living world is destroying the ecosphere’s capacity to sustain life as we know it.

This is Jensen only mention of Capitalism in his entire article and then he follows it by what he labels as “human domination”. What is remarkable is how Jensen on the one hand can speak to Capitalism’s violence and then indicts “human domination”. Jensen’s contradiction is quite obvious and it is surprising that of the commentators on this thread heaping Jensen with praise miss or avoid critiquing this terrible article.

First second-wave feminism which Jensen used as his foray into so-called “consciousness raising”, wasn’t all that liberating for women. What it did was to force primarily white women INTO the Capitalist labor force increasing COMPETITION among the sexes rather than liberate both. Clearly there were progressive social attitude changes but on the fundamental questions of race and class, second wave feminism sought to create WHITE female identity as a class in an attempt to obscure race and class antagonism among women and thus became a useful tool to divide the working class.

Second, Jensen tendency to blame “humanity” fall flat on its face when he mentions capitalism. The contradiction is that Capitalism itself is anti-humanity. It seeks to create a tiny class of humans that dominates over ALL humans. So to blame humanity is to blame the victims of Capitalism.

Unfortunately Jensen’s rhetoric seems to be the use of sentimentality to offset any analysis and any deeper thinking. In other words, leave your brain at the door while being mesmerizes by soothing words that integrates axioms, bromides and cliche.

i thought that one needs to go to university in order to learn how to write an article of several thousand words.

there is spelling, grammar, punctuation, and most importantly, a politico-journalistic language to learn; the one that no houseperson speaks nor understands.
one has to learn typing. i type mostly with one finger and still make mistakes.

besides, nearly everything i posit, had already been said; in all lands and thruout the ages.
people who hate what we posit put the ancient ruse on unwary people: they marginalize or attribute the ideas facts a i posit to one person.

thus an individual like galileo is a lunatic or is the only one who maintains that the earth circles the sun.
apparently that happened to giordano bruno, semmelsweis, columbus, and many others.
regarding semmelsweis, doctors laughed at him for saying that the reason there were so many infections and deaths in hospitals, was the fact that doctors did not wash their hands. tnx

What is the difference between Qaddafi and those people not much they both are good at using prop’s and telling people how much they love them as they drive away in a big white limo.

There clearly is a HUGE difference Don and to put Qaddafi on par with Hollywood celebrities is to spread the Zionism/Western lies and hubris like Jensen is doing when he indicts all humanity rather than provide insightful and useful analysis.

Here’s some of the things that Qaddafi has done that Zion-wood will never do for Arabs:

Libya: Scratching beneath the surface…
[http://english.pravda.ru/opinion/columnists/24-02-2011/117000-libya_surface-0/]

Colonel Muammar Gathafi’s social and welfare programmes in Libya are far greater than those implemented in neighbouring countries. Modern infrastructures have sprung up in recent years which aim to attract investment and bring added wealth and sustainable development to the citizens of Libya; Gathafi’s literacy programme has seen universal education become reality and since he took power in 1969, the life expectancy of Libyan citizens has risen by twenty years while infant mortality has decreased sharply.

Gathafi represents the control of Libya’s resources by Libyans and for Libyans; literacy reached ten per cent of the population when he came to power. Today it is around 90 per cent. Women, today, have rights and can go to school and get a job. The standard of living is around 100 times greater than it was under the rule of King Idris I. The conclusion, therefore, is that Gathafi’s Libya is a different ball game from Tunisia and Egypt.

Please do more research Don and you’ll avoid Jensen’s sentimental and drippy fallacies.

“thank you for the reminder that democracy, and freedom of speech means that even the least informed among us, or those whose opinions seem absurd, also have the right to speak, and i have the obligation to be polite. thank you for this reminder.”

my dear, to me, no opinion is absurd. an opinion cannot ever be evaluate right or wrong.
u have the right to call an opinion any name u like, it does not elucidate or teach.
it make sno didd to me whether and the label used is dysphemistic, euphemestic, pejorative, etc., it still only tells us about the user of such labels.

we, of course, cannot avoid labeling!

i am retired; so, i have time to post. i post on DV often. i am sure that DV owners welcome that.

u seem not to? deeming by the pejorative “incessant” [and whatever annoyance or ill feeling led u to use it] u feel bad. please be nice to self and use healthy
words; never sick ones! tnx

btw? i do not evaluate as true everything wikileaks sez.

“This highway leads to the shadowy tip of reality: you’re on a through route to the land of the different, the bizarre, the unexplainable…Go as far as you like on this road. Its limits are only those of mind itself. Ladies and Gentlemen, you’re entering the wondrous dimension of the unknown…………….”

How quickly they forget. By all means people keep looking out that window where you see reality and unreality at the same time and watch those crack’s in the road.

I began thinking more about how human domination of the living world is destroying the ecosphere’s capacity to sustain life as we know it. Robert Jensen