Dawkins is the latest popstar of a long line of zionist phony atheists. Take a look at this:

Richard Dawkins on Islam

[http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xc693r_richard-dawkins-on-islam_news]

or

Richard Dawkins reproduces Pat Condell’s ‘Ground Zero mosque’ rant DateSunday, June 6, 2010

“In response to a request that the video be removed, Dawkins writes:

“I believe Pat Condell deserves a hearing. He may sound extreme, but that could just reflect the extremes he is fighting against. I don’t know the corresponding figures for America, but polls in Britain suggest that an alarmingly high percentage of young British Muslims support the terrorists of 9/11 and 7/7, and some 40% of Muslims want Sharia Law introduced into Britain. Disquietingly high percentages supported the death sentence against Salman Rushdie and the threats of violence against the Danish cartoonists. Even ‘moderate’ Muslim leaders support the principle that apostasy deserves the death penalty, even if they are too nice to carry out the sentence themselves. I think it is well arguable that Islam is the greatest man-made force for evil in the world today. Pat Condell is one of the few with the courage to say so.”

[http://www.islamophobia-watch.com/islamophobia-watch/2010/6/6/richard-dawkins-reproduces-pat-condells-ground-zero-mosque-r.html]

He’s another zionist Islamophobe misusing atheist views to support zionist prejudice.

For a while, he was a popular thread topic ad the guardian’s talkboard (he gets a lot of play at the guardian, I believe). The zionist laborites (not Labour, but newlabor) love him.

Bill Maher and Richard Dawkins Scapegoat Islam

Could Dawkins be using his “atheism” as a means to promote “Islamophobia” (read: Zionism)? I think that may be the point of Shabnam’s argument. I never heard of this guy before but I wouldn’t be surprised. If others can share more information I’d appreciate it.

Deadbeat wrote: “CUTE! What you provided was a definition of “Zionist Occupied Government” not Zionism itself and not of the Zionism that Chomsky claims. ”

That ZOG is meant to destroy white society is part of the Zionist definition as white nationalists see it.

That’s NOT a definition of Zionism. That is a right-wing INTERPRETATION of Zionist influence of U.S. government. There’s also a left-wing interpretation that you tend to dismiss best articulated by Jeffery Blankfort and James Petras.

However your claim is that there is another benign definition of Zionism promoted by Noam Chomsky’s false claims of Arab and Jewish working class solidarity. Neither you or Luis Cayetano have provided any evidence to support that claim and now you are using a red herring fallacy to make your case because you have no evidence. All you have to do catguy00 is concede that you have no evidence and that you made a mistake. I won’t make fun of you.

It’s like someone claiming to be opposed to the death penalty, yet cheers when a person gets lynched whom they though beat a murder rap.

This is really weak.

Dawkins is an ATHEIST. He abhors all RELIGION.

Some more than other but particularly the abrahamic religions since they have inlficted the most damage on the world.

I fully agree with him.

That ZOG is meant to destroy white society is part of the Zionist definition as white nationalists see it.

For those who think (2beancan) that I agree with Chomsky on the 2 state, well I DON”T and have said so with great frequency here. It is not a viable solution however it may seem to appease those who believe you can split the “baby”. That land is of a piece and I believe it is a bioregion that cannot be sustain the population as two nations.

Let’s be clear Max about your position regarding Chomsky. You are right that you have consistently been in disagreement with Chomsky on the two-state solution. But the REAL problem is you’ve been inconsistent in your disdain for Zionism. You are against Zionism SO LONG AS the discussion LIMITS Zionism to Israel. But when it comes to analysis and discussing Zionism’s INFLUENCE upon the United States political economy you are right there alongside Chomsky.

Zionism is an IDEOLOGY that is NOT limited to the boundaries (whatever they may be) of Israel. Israel is the physical form of Zionism and help to generate Arab backlash towards Jews and maintains the victimization psychology that binds Jews together around Zionism.

The goals of Israel as a nation differs from that of the United States but it is Jewish influence IN THE UNITED STATES that binds the U.S. to Israel. It is not the other way around. Both Chomsky and you are on the same page in that denial.

First, I have idea who Charles Dawkins is. My comment was clear, I am not responsible for who posters are, but I haven’t seen anything recently (that is since the REAL zionist troll squad last hit here some months ago…I’ve not noted them lately).

I’m certainly not arguing against the Israel’s interventions into the African continent and particular Sudan. I am very suspicious of what is going on there, but that’s another story.

For those who think (2beancan) that I agree with Chomsky on the 2 state, well I DON”T and have said so with great frequency here. It is not a viable solution however it may seem to appease those who believe you can split the “baby”. That land is of a piece and I believe it is a bioregion that cannot be sustain the population as two nations.

But the real issue I have with Chomsky and those who support the 2-state, is the notion that it is a politically viable solution. One need only imagine a Palestinian state with army, airforce, navy, economic trade, demand for increased water access (currently deprived by Israel) and much more.
I cannot imagine an Israeli state willing to have this neighbor.

A single bio-region/state, would reintegrate Palestinians. There numbers would over time assure political strength, the land and all natural assets and resources in the region would be better managed then to split them off. I’m not saying that it is an easy solution given the predatory state. But as the US empire declines, this will be the only way peace can come to the region, and Israel will become less of what it is without its parent to bail it out.

That is why, the US and its decline should be what we are watching rather than looking to some kind of Soviet style Israel (Israel is only relatively strong as a military power in the region because of its relation with the US). When the race is over, Israel will begin to shrivel. It will be further isolated. The end is not fully discernable, but it is in process.

Northern Sudan is one of the best-educated regions of Africa and Sudan as a state one of Africa’s most powerful militarily. After the Arab disaster in the June 1967 Six-day War with Israel, Sudan provided shelter bases for the remaining Egyptian airforce place that had not been destroyed by Israel.

Sudan trained Egyptian airforce and ground forces, something that alarmed Israel. The Israelis realized that a strong Sudan would be a permanent geopolitical threat to them.

The following year, Israel started to support and arm the breakaway Anyanya movement of southern Sudan and using the then Ugandan army commander, Major-General Idi Amin as coordinator, funneled arms to the southern rebels.

This was part of the reason that Israel actively supported the 1971 military coup that brought Idi Amin to power in Uganda.

On Sept. 4, 2008, Avi Dichter, a former Israeli internal security minister and former director of Israel’s internal security service Shabak, presented a lecture in Jerusalem in which he explained Israel’s role in stirring trouble in Sudan.

Said Dichter: “Our allies or our friends in southern Sudan are capable of implementing the Israeli agenda. We had to weaken Sudan and deprive it of the initiative to build a strong and united state. That is necessary for bolstering and strengthening Israel’s national security. We produced and escalated the Darfur crisis to prevent Sudan from developing its capabilities.

“Our strategy which was implemented in southern Sudan in the past and is being implemented now in Western Sudan [location of Darfur] has succeeded in changing the situation in Sudan so that it becomes critical and divisions occur,” Dichter continued.

“The present conflicts in Sudan will sooner or later lead to its partition into several entities and states. There are international forces led by America that insist on interfering in Sudan in favour of the independence of southern Sudan, and also of Darfur, similar to what happened in Kosovo,” Dichter said.

{http://ugandarecord.co.ug/index.php?issue=74&article=891&seo=Israel’s%20secret%20role%20in%20Sudan}

All forces in the region MUST BE UNITED AGAINST ZIONISM and its supporters.

[http://www.uruknet.info/?p=m73777&hd=&size=1&l=e]

Wow, as if weren’t Max Shields who is this site’s champion of “tit-for-tat excerise in futility”!
Btw, I presented a just AND viable solution to the genocide in Palestine in my comment (August 29th, 2010 at 5:56pm) to the article Roundabout as Conflict-avoidance versus Malcolm X’s Psychology of Liberation
by Denis Rancourt / August 25th, 2010. – Of course zionazis and their supporters will find it “undoable/unrealistic/unviable/… “, or – using Chomsky’s standard consent-manufacturing phrases – “irrational/hypocritical”, “It won’t happen!”…

Please review Luis’s weblog. He very much admires Dawkins and believes in his politics. Do you know who Charles Dawkins is? I am sure you know his work in science and perhaps have read his famous book ‘selfish gene’ which I don’t agree with. But this is not the problem. The problem for me is his association with Ex Muslim crowd who are part of the Islamophobic industry used by the west intelligence agency. He has retired himself to be active full time advocating for ‘secularism’ and death to religion. He, however, like other ‘secularists’ and Ex Muslim members, do not target Judaism or Christianity, but only Islam although they claim all religions are target which is nothing but a lie.

I don’t know Luis know his involvement with the Islamophobic industry, I assume he knows. Then, apparently, he does not have any objection to it as his weblog, I included in the earlier comment, shows because he advocate Richard Dawkins’ speeches and lectures in his weblog. Dawkins has cooperation with the neocons such as Maryam Namazie, Ayaan Hershi Ali and Ibn Warraq, all supporters of Islamophobic industry.

{http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/may/08/ayaan-hirsi-ali-interview}

If you appreciate David Duke politics, then I would accept Richard Dawkins’ racist attitude towards Muslim.

{https://homoeconomicusnet.wordpress.com/2008/10/16/richard-dawkins-on-the-counicl-of-ex-muslims-of-britain/}

The thought of taking the time and energy to write a thoughtful piece for DV (whether I agree with all of them or not) only to have it trashed by the comments here seems like such a waste.

I trust you are correct on the use of “troll” and if so, stand corrected that DB uses it. I think DB is not the other posters that come to mind (and probably yours too) …but he’s only good with “debate” as it is so commonly misused to describe anyone passionately yelling in hopes of winning- getting corrected be damned. His illogical witch hunts are not made better by the fact that he’s a supposed leftist and there’s still that problem of hanging out in front of the club making sure no one would want to come inside

What???

I finally got barred from Lenin’s Tomb, not for “left antisemitism”, which is what I usually get banned for. It was for trying to question the use of the term ‘racism’ as a way of reducing ethnic conflict. So thank God for Dissident Voice and Palestine Think Tank.

These lines are from Mary’s comment. Since you, Max Shield, are not worried about Partition of Southern Sudan based on lies and deception of Charles Jacobs, (Child Slavery) a hoax, to carry out the partition of Sudan according to ODED YINON, “A Strategy for Israel in the Nineteen Eighties” or the ‘left’, then I wanted to remind people of what is happening now.

Have you seen an article about Sudan, for the past year and half about Sudan? No one CARES that what is happening to Sudanese people by imperialism/Zionism and its stooges including Obama, Clinton, Kerry or Susan Rice. Hollywood stooges, George Clooney and Mia Faro were involved. I know you DON’T CARE, but this is VERY IMPORTANT FOR THE WHOLE REGION, to tell the least. This partition is going to affect on movements and states in the region including Palestine, Iraq, Egypt, Tunisia, Morocco and beyond. But I know YOU DON’T CARE.

{http://weekly.ahram.org.eg/2007/853/op2.htm}

If you knew Arabic or Persian then you would have understood the grave sitution of Sudan and its partition.
You are so indifferent that you cannot see the connection.

{http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/pdf/The%20Zionist%20Plan%20for%20the%20Middle%20East.pdf}

Save Darfur is mainly a Jewish Organization where constructed the “genocide” hoax in Darfur.
{http://www.jpost.com/Home/Article.aspx?id=20232}

In Southern Sudan, however, the Judeofasfist Charles Jacobs from David Project and Camera, who led “child slavery” hoax to brainwash American people against Sudan. He played a prominent role at the university including at HARVARD UNIVERSITY during 1990s up to 2005 where Bashir was forced to sign an agreement to hand in half of his country to the West to improve Israel and US position at the horn of Africa. The zionists played very important role in partition of the Sudan. Wake up.

{http://www.ratedesi.com/video/v/yGOpfH_5_pY/Prof.-Mahmood-Mamdani-and-John-Prendergast}

did you notice the question mark in my perfect statement regarding how you come across (as well as your terrible understanding of logical fallacy)? I have no problems admitting I called you a name (I may have referred to you as a fuckwit but not sure if I actually typed it) but again, the QUESTION was in regards to YOU labeling others and I was showing a much more likely scenario with you better fitting those labels. In fact, thanks for posting it, please let it stand and consider it. Dead Beat, If you are not a “RACIST”, “ZIONAZI”, “LYING” “TROLL”, you coming in here and claiming others are, is NOT helping this website and the articles from concerned anti-zionists trying to share information.

I’ve explained this to you many times, but like circular reasoning or ad hominem, you don’t understand. I’m glad Hayate is concerned for your freedom of speech, but having mouths doesn’t mean you should open them