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		<title>By: mary</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2011/01/plus-ca-change-plus-cest-la-meme-chose/#comment-79529</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Jan 2011 14:32:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Many of those calling Tucson a tragedy etc were calling for Assange&#039;s assassination and the poor little nine year old &quot;born on 9/11&quot; is indeed a poor mite.

On 27th December Obomber&#039;s troops in Afghanistan killed eight school children, allegedly also dragging some, physically, screaming from their classroom. We didn&#039;t hear much about that did we. Or the 500 Iraqi academics (in main stream press) assassinated under US/UK watch. 

{http://wsws.org/articles/2011/jan2011/pers-j10.shtml}]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Many of those calling Tucson a tragedy etc were calling for Assange&#8217;s assassination and the poor little nine year old &#8220;born on 9/11&#8243; is indeed a poor mite.</p>
<p>On 27th December Obomber&#8217;s troops in Afghanistan killed eight school children, allegedly also dragging some, physically, screaming from their classroom. We didn&#8217;t hear much about that did we. Or the 500 Iraqi academics (in main stream press) assassinated under US/UK watch. </p>
<p>{http://wsws.org/articles/2011/jan2011/pers-j10.shtml}</p>
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		<title>By: mary</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2011/01/plus-ca-change-plus-cest-la-meme-chose/#comment-79523</link>
		<dc:creator>mary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Jan 2011 12:05:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Some war propaganda in this ZBC report.  I thought that Rhee seemed to be a rather pugnacious  type when he was answering questions immediately afterwards. 
 
&#039;Paramedics then took her to a nearby hospital where trauma surgeon Peter Rhee, a former military doctor who served in Afghanistan, and his team worked with impressive efficiency.&#039;

{http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-12148446}

He probably had a lot of experience with cutting skulls in half. and removing bullets.

ZBC extols the triumph of whitey medicine and explosive technology in a psychopathic context.

&#039;much dead brain tissue,&#039;  ??? how could they be sure.   Madness is mentioned but PTSD is not, of which there are 750,000 in the bloody states.

I remember vividly in &#039;Bowling for Columbine &#039;  Moore&#039;s interview with the shrivelled  Charlton Heston.  The latter - &#039;we have been up to our elbows in blood since we first colonised NA.&#039;   Conclusion - the killing and the maiming, the deep cruelty, is habitual.  As with &#039;&#039;Israel&#039; and the other axis member, the UK, it is lethal.  In the latter, killing is glorified on every day of the year.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some war propaganda in this ZBC report.  I thought that Rhee seemed to be a rather pugnacious  type when he was answering questions immediately afterwards. </p>
<p>&#8216;Paramedics then took her to a nearby hospital where trauma surgeon Peter Rhee, a former military doctor who served in Afghanistan, and his team worked with impressive efficiency.&#8217;</p>
<p>{http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-12148446}</p>
<p>He probably had a lot of experience with cutting skulls in half. and removing bullets.</p>
<p>ZBC extols the triumph of whitey medicine and explosive technology in a psychopathic context.</p>
<p>&#8216;much dead brain tissue,&#8217;  ??? how could they be sure.   Madness is mentioned but PTSD is not, of which there are 750,000 in the bloody states.</p>
<p>I remember vividly in &#8216;Bowling for Columbine &#8216;  Moore&#8217;s interview with the shrivelled  Charlton Heston.  The latter &#8211; &#8216;we have been up to our elbows in blood since we first colonised NA.&#8217;   Conclusion &#8211; the killing and the maiming, the deep cruelty, is habitual.  As with &#8221;Israel&#8217; and the other axis member, the UK, it is lethal.  In the latter, killing is glorified on every day of the year.</p>
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		<title>By: hayate</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2011/01/plus-ca-change-plus-cest-la-meme-chose/#comment-79503</link>
		<dc:creator>hayate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Jan 2011 22:47:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Suspect in attack on congresswoman acted alone [well of course he did, cant have a &quot;lone nut&quot; with accomplices, it just doesn&#039;t look right - h]

By PAULINE ARRILLAGA and AMANDA LEE MYERS, Associated Press Pauline Arrillaga And Amanda Lee Myers, Associated Press   – 1 hr 2 mins ago

&quot;Pima County Sheriff Clarence Dupnik said Sunday that Loughner acted alone.&quot;

[http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20110109/ap_on_re_us/us_congresswoman_shot]

Does that mean the 2nd guy they were looking for yesterday turned out to be working for the u.s. guv or had important zionist connections or both?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Suspect in attack on congresswoman acted alone [well of course he did, cant have a "lone nut" with accomplices, it just doesn't look right - h]</p>
<p>By PAULINE ARRILLAGA and AMANDA LEE MYERS, Associated Press Pauline Arrillaga And Amanda Lee Myers, Associated Press   – 1 hr 2 mins ago</p>
<p>&#8220;Pima County Sheriff Clarence Dupnik said Sunday that Loughner acted alone.&#8221;</p>
<p>[http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20110109/ap_on_re_us/us_congresswoman_shot]</p>
<p>Does that mean the 2nd guy they were looking for yesterday turned out to be working for the u.s. guv or had important zionist connections or both?</p>
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		<title>By: hayate</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2011/01/plus-ca-change-plus-cest-la-meme-chose/#comment-79478</link>
		<dc:creator>hayate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Jan 2011 02:20:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[More from Dupnik:

Arizona Rep. Giffords shot, 6 killed in rampage

&quot;When you look at unbalanced people, how they respond to the vitriol that comes out of certain mouths about tearing down the government. The anger, the hatred, the bigotry that goes on in this country is getting to be outrageous,&quot; the sheriff said. &quot;And unfortunately, Arizona I think has become the capital. We have become the mecca for prejudice and bigotry.&quot;

[http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_congresswoman_shot]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>More from Dupnik:</p>
<p>Arizona Rep. Giffords shot, 6 killed in rampage</p>
<p>&#8220;When you look at unbalanced people, how they respond to the vitriol that comes out of certain mouths about tearing down the government. The anger, the hatred, the bigotry that goes on in this country is getting to be outrageous,&#8221; the sheriff said. &#8220;And unfortunately, Arizona I think has become the capital. We have become the mecca for prejudice and bigotry.&#8221;</p>
<p>[http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_congresswoman_shot]</p>
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		<title>By: hayate</title>
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		<dc:creator>hayate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Jan 2011 02:02:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Sheriff Clarence Dupnik: &quot;Not convinced&quot; gunman acted alone

Posted: Jan 08, 2011 5:25 PM PST Updated: Jan 08, 2011 5:45 PM PST

&quot;Sheriff Dupnik also confirmed that two individuals at this crime scene tackled the suspect. He said there is reason to believe that the gunman came to the location with another individual. Dupnik told reporters his office has pictures of a &quot;person of interest&quot; in this case.

Dupnik described the tragic event as a day of &quot;personal sadness for all of us in the room.&quot; He went on to say he &quot;hoped all Americans are as saddened and as shocked as we are. I hope that most of them are as angry as I am. I think it&#039;s time as a country that we do a little soul searching. Because the vitriolic rhetoric that we hear from people in the radio business and from some of those in the TV business...this is not the nice United States that we grew up with.&quot;

Dupnik went on to say that &quot;pretty soon we are not going to be able to find willing decent people to subject themselves, to serve in public office.&quot;

[http://www.kgun9.com/Global/story.asp?S=13809243]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sheriff Clarence Dupnik: &#8220;Not convinced&#8221; gunman acted alone</p>
<p>Posted: Jan 08, 2011 5:25 PM PST Updated: Jan 08, 2011 5:45 PM PST</p>
<p>&#8220;Sheriff Dupnik also confirmed that two individuals at this crime scene tackled the suspect. He said there is reason to believe that the gunman came to the location with another individual. Dupnik told reporters his office has pictures of a &#8220;person of interest&#8221; in this case.</p>
<p>Dupnik described the tragic event as a day of &#8220;personal sadness for all of us in the room.&#8221; He went on to say he &#8220;hoped all Americans are as saddened and as shocked as we are. I hope that most of them are as angry as I am. I think it&#8217;s time as a country that we do a little soul searching. Because the vitriolic rhetoric that we hear from people in the radio business and from some of those in the TV business&#8230;this is not the nice United States that we grew up with.&#8221;</p>
<p>Dupnik went on to say that &#8220;pretty soon we are not going to be able to find willing decent people to subject themselves, to serve in public office.&#8221;</p>
<p>[http://www.kgun9.com/Global/story.asp?S=13809243]</p>
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		<title>By: hayate</title>
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		<dc:creator>hayate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Jan 2011 01:13:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;We are witnessing yet another round of the “theatre of the absurd,” or what I also call the political/judicial circus, the biggest, most expensive, and unending show ever in America. I’m referring to the opening of the 112th show from Congress. The Republicans, now in charge of the House, have rehearsed their parts and can’t wait to get big government off the backs of big business. New House speaker, John Boehner, proclaimed that Congress is going to give government back to the people.&quot;

I wonder if this was their opening shot:

Arizona Rep. Giffords shot, at least 5 killed

By TERRY TANG, AMANDA LEE MYERS and DAVID ESPO, Associated Press Terry Tang, Amanda Lee Myers And David Espo, Associated Press   – 34 mins ago

[http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_congresswoman_shot]

Giffords had been target of violent threats
By Zachary Roth

[http://news.yahoo.com/s/yblog_thelookout/20110108/ts_yblog_thelookout/giffords-had-been-target-of-violent-threats]

I wonder if this shooter was a regular &quot;hate radio&quot;  listener and viewer of the fox hate network?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;We are witnessing yet another round of the “theatre of the absurd,” or what I also call the political/judicial circus, the biggest, most expensive, and unending show ever in America. I’m referring to the opening of the 112th show from Congress. The Republicans, now in charge of the House, have rehearsed their parts and can’t wait to get big government off the backs of big business. New House speaker, John Boehner, proclaimed that Congress is going to give government back to the people.&#8221;</p>
<p>I wonder if this was their opening shot:</p>
<p>Arizona Rep. Giffords shot, at least 5 killed</p>
<p>By TERRY TANG, AMANDA LEE MYERS and DAVID ESPO, Associated Press Terry Tang, Amanda Lee Myers And David Espo, Associated Press   – 34 mins ago</p>
<p>[http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_congresswoman_shot]</p>
<p>Giffords had been target of violent threats<br />
By Zachary Roth</p>
<p>[http://news.yahoo.com/s/yblog_thelookout/20110108/ts_yblog_thelookout/giffords-had-been-target-of-violent-threats]</p>
<p>I wonder if this shooter was a regular &#8220;hate radio&#8221;  listener and viewer of the fox hate network?</p>
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		<title>By: bozh</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2011/01/plus-ca-change-plus-cest-la-meme-chose/#comment-79438</link>
		<dc:creator>bozh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Jan 2011 18:36:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[the above post shed&#039;s light on why nader received only ab. 700k votes.
it is because of duopolic state of affairs of u.s: dems-repubs on one side and the &#039;dissident &#039;side&#039; on the other side dose not want joe and josephine to rule america.

how about nader? what doe she want? it seems to me he wants joe and josephine to stop looking in and come in finally! tnx]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the above post shed&#8217;s light on why nader received only ab. 700k votes.<br />
it is because of duopolic state of affairs of u.s: dems-repubs on one side and the &#8216;dissident &#8216;side&#8217; on the other side dose not want joe and josephine to rule america.</p>
<p>how about nader? what doe she want? it seems to me he wants joe and josephine to stop looking in and come in finally! tnx</p>
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		<title>By: bozh</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2011/01/plus-ca-change-plus-cest-la-meme-chose/#comment-79435</link>
		<dc:creator>bozh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Jan 2011 18:26:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[when u have obtained monopoly at latest 10kyrs ago and made into law [in some societies] why change it if u don&#039;t have to?
and especially in view that is is voted in by 99% of ballots cast.
and also on plain view that ?all dissidents only complain about an unseeable duopoly instead seeable monopoly.

now u understand why the other monopolies-- the ones of the infrahumans r idemonized! and not only by the &#039;duopoly&#039;, but also by the triopolic side-- the socalled dissident side or actors-factors.  tnx]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>when u have obtained monopoly at latest 10kyrs ago and made into law [in some societies] why change it if u don&#8217;t have to?<br />
and especially in view that is is voted in by 99% of ballots cast.<br />
and also on plain view that ?all dissidents only complain about an unseeable duopoly instead seeable monopoly.</p>
<p>now u understand why the other monopolies&#8211; the ones of the infrahumans r idemonized! and not only by the &#8216;duopoly&#8217;, but also by the triopolic side&#8211; the socalled dissident side or actors-factors.  tnx</p>
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