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		<title>By: beverly</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2010/12/obamacare-%e2%80%93-worse-than-you-thought/#comment-79117</link>
		<dc:creator>beverly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Jan 2011 02:57:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Max Shields wrote:

&quot;I hold Obama directly responsible for war crimes. The economy is out of his hands as is much else. &quot;

Obama&#039;s evil pawprints are all over the economy along with every other domestic and foreign policy matter.  His administration has willfully and deliberately continued, and in many cases increased, the mayhem, high crimes, and misdemeanors of the Bush/Cheney years.  His Clintonista redux cabinet were major players in the financial deregulation, free trade, and telecommunication wildings of the 1990s which contributed big time to the financial and economic train wreck we face today.    The man wouldn&#039;t even name a real liberal to the Supreme Court - and he had 2 chances to do so.   He promised with a straight face that he&#039;d fight for Net Neutrality and look who he appointed to the FCC and the outcome of that.

Out of his hands?  Don&#039;t go there, please. Obama is as complicit in the mess  as the power players who his robotic hustler ass into the White House.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Max Shields wrote:</p>
<p>&#8220;I hold Obama directly responsible for war crimes. The economy is out of his hands as is much else. &#8221;</p>
<p>Obama&#8217;s evil pawprints are all over the economy along with every other domestic and foreign policy matter.  His administration has willfully and deliberately continued, and in many cases increased, the mayhem, high crimes, and misdemeanors of the Bush/Cheney years.  His Clintonista redux cabinet were major players in the financial deregulation, free trade, and telecommunication wildings of the 1990s which contributed big time to the financial and economic train wreck we face today.    The man wouldn&#8217;t even name a real liberal to the Supreme Court &#8211; and he had 2 chances to do so.   He promised with a straight face that he&#8217;d fight for Net Neutrality and look who he appointed to the FCC and the outcome of that.</p>
<p>Out of his hands?  Don&#8217;t go there, please. Obama is as complicit in the mess  as the power players who his robotic hustler ass into the White House.</p>
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		<title>By: mary</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2010/12/obamacare-%e2%80%93-worse-than-you-thought/#comment-78966</link>
		<dc:creator>mary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Dec 2010 08:56:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[....One wonders whether it would not be better if ObamaCare failed in the courts leaving us with the reasonable two choices: Medicare for all, as in Canada and France, ++or a National Health Service, as in the UK++

The neoliberal Conservative Liberal Democrat Coalition led by Thatcher&#039;s protégé David Cameron, will be doing its best to demolish OUR beloved NHS and hand it over completely to private health care companies, following in the footsteps of Blair and Brown who continued with the Thatcher plan in the American model. For instance, there are already privately run polyclinics and PFI hospitals.

The first stage proposed by this coalition  is to close down the strategic area health authorities and primary care trusts who decide where the budget is spent and to transfer their work to consortia of general practitioner doctors.   These GPs entered the medica profession to deliver  care to their patients and to refer them to hospital specialists if  further investigations or treatment were needed.  They did not want to become  managers sitting at desks.

{http://www.nhsca.org.uk/policy.html}]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;.One wonders whether it would not be better if ObamaCare failed in the courts leaving us with the reasonable two choices: Medicare for all, as in Canada and France, ++or a National Health Service, as in the UK++</p>
<p>The neoliberal Conservative Liberal Democrat Coalition led by Thatcher&#8217;s protégé David Cameron, will be doing its best to demolish OUR beloved NHS and hand it over completely to private health care companies, following in the footsteps of Blair and Brown who continued with the Thatcher plan in the American model. For instance, there are already privately run polyclinics and PFI hospitals.</p>
<p>The first stage proposed by this coalition  is to close down the strategic area health authorities and primary care trusts who decide where the budget is spent and to transfer their work to consortia of general practitioner doctors.   These GPs entered the medica profession to deliver  care to their patients and to refer them to hospital specialists if  further investigations or treatment were needed.  They did not want to become  managers sitting at desks.</p>
<p>{http://www.nhsca.org.uk/policy.html}</p>
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		<title>By: lichen</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2010/12/obamacare-%e2%80%93-worse-than-you-thought/#comment-78965</link>
		<dc:creator>lichen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Dec 2010 04:42:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yes, actually, it is a human right to choose also your field of medicine; hr676, the single payer bill includes naturopaths and alternative therapies.  Making condescending comments about people who have not been educated or taken care of in this land where big business is given free reign to pollute and sicken human bodies as much as they want is clearly a corporatist ploy.  If your appendix burst or you came down with a hernia, I don&#039;t think you&#039;d start ranting about allopathy.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, actually, it is a human right to choose also your field of medicine; hr676, the single payer bill includes naturopaths and alternative therapies.  Making condescending comments about people who have not been educated or taken care of in this land where big business is given free reign to pollute and sicken human bodies as much as they want is clearly a corporatist ploy.  If your appendix burst or you came down with a hernia, I don&#8217;t think you&#8217;d start ranting about allopathy.</p>
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		<title>By: Liberte</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2010/12/obamacare-%e2%80%93-worse-than-you-thought/#comment-78964</link>
		<dc:creator>Liberte</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Dec 2010 02:59:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[What is &quot;healthcare&quot;?

Is it the psychotic allopathy of Rockefeller owned pharma?  That sort of healthcare certainly isnt a human right, its an assult on humanity.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What is &#8220;healthcare&#8221;?</p>
<p>Is it the psychotic allopathy of Rockefeller owned pharma?  That sort of healthcare certainly isnt a human right, its an assult on humanity.</p>
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		<title>By: lichen</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2010/12/obamacare-%e2%80%93-worse-than-you-thought/#comment-78963</link>
		<dc:creator>lichen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Dec 2010 02:18:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The right wing antizio-nazi&#039;s who don&#039;t give a damn about whether people in the US (or the wider world) have human rights should stop spamming.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The right wing antizio-nazi&#8217;s who don&#8217;t give a damn about whether people in the US (or the wider world) have human rights should stop spamming.</p>
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		<title>By: lichen</title>
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		<dc:creator>lichen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Dec 2010 02:13:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Healthcare is a human right, so yes, those of us fighting for single payer healthcare are not blind for failing to accept that supposedly &quot;it is our responsibility&quot; to pay for healthcare on our own, and nor are we naiive for supposedly expecting &quot;the feds to do it for us&quot; when they are obligated to do so.  The scum of the obama administration are 100% responsible for all of their right wing economic policies, and they should be prosecuted.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Healthcare is a human right, so yes, those of us fighting for single payer healthcare are not blind for failing to accept that supposedly &#8220;it is our responsibility&#8221; to pay for healthcare on our own, and nor are we naiive for supposedly expecting &#8220;the feds to do it for us&#8221; when they are obligated to do so.  The scum of the obama administration are 100% responsible for all of their right wing economic policies, and they should be prosecuted.</p>
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		<title>By: hayate</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2010/12/obamacare-%e2%80%93-worse-than-you-thought/#comment-78932</link>
		<dc:creator>hayate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Dec 2010 20:05:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Mulga Mumblebrain

I couldn&#039;t agree more.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mulga Mumblebrain</p>
<p>I couldn&#8217;t agree more.</p>
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		<title>By: Mulga Mumblebrain</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2010/12/obamacare-%e2%80%93-worse-than-you-thought/#comment-78931</link>
		<dc:creator>Mulga Mumblebrain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Dec 2010 20:02:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[One of Obama&#039;s pathetically few &#039;triumphs&#039;, one that his Zionazi cheer squad holds up as proof of his bona fides, is a sham? Who&#039;d of thought? Obama is worse, far, far, worse than Bush, because he is such a cynical, posturing, fraud. He&#039;s the Clarence Thomas of US politics, the ruling class&#039; pet black, whose loyalty to his white bosses is absolute, and whose mediocrity is an insult to all African Americans. Uncle Tom surely does not cover it all. However this is not a case of treachery, of selling-out when power has been gained. No this is a long-term project, a Trojan Horse, a Tel Avivian Candidate talent spotted by Zionazis when at college, and groomed, financed and trained in obedience over many years, to do his masters&#039; bidding. The only question really is whether he is fully aware of his treachery, or is so well conditioned and so gargantuanly egotistical that he truly sees himself as a man of destiny. He&#039;s a fit, tragi-comic figure for an evil empire in collapse.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One of Obama&#8217;s pathetically few &#8216;triumphs&#8217;, one that his Zionazi cheer squad holds up as proof of his bona fides, is a sham? Who&#8217;d of thought? Obama is worse, far, far, worse than Bush, because he is such a cynical, posturing, fraud. He&#8217;s the Clarence Thomas of US politics, the ruling class&#8217; pet black, whose loyalty to his white bosses is absolute, and whose mediocrity is an insult to all African Americans. Uncle Tom surely does not cover it all. However this is not a case of treachery, of selling-out when power has been gained. No this is a long-term project, a Trojan Horse, a Tel Avivian Candidate talent spotted by Zionazis when at college, and groomed, financed and trained in obedience over many years, to do his masters&#8217; bidding. The only question really is whether he is fully aware of his treachery, or is so well conditioned and so gargantuanly egotistical that he truly sees himself as a man of destiny. He&#8217;s a fit, tragi-comic figure for an evil empire in collapse.</p>
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		<title>By: Max Shields</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2010/12/obamacare-%e2%80%93-worse-than-you-thought/#comment-78923</link>
		<dc:creator>Max Shields</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Dec 2010 18:13:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[My only other thought is: why do we wait for government (particularly feds) to do any of this? Why do we give over this and then not trust those we have appointed/annoited with so much power over our welfare?

We are responsible for our well-being...and as long as we expect someone or system to take care of that, we can expect pretty much what we get.

I hold Obama directly responsible for war crimes. The economy is out of his hands as is much else.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My only other thought is: why do we wait for government (particularly feds) to do any of this? Why do we give over this and then not trust those we have appointed/annoited with so much power over our welfare?</p>
<p>We are responsible for our well-being&#8230;and as long as we expect someone or system to take care of that, we can expect pretty much what we get.</p>
<p>I hold Obama directly responsible for war crimes. The economy is out of his hands as is much else.</p>
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		<title>By: Max Shields</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2010/12/obamacare-%e2%80%93-worse-than-you-thought/#comment-78919</link>
		<dc:creator>Max Shields</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Dec 2010 17:21:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;One wonders whether it would not be better if ObamaCare failed in the courts leaving us with the reasonable two choices: Medicare for all, as in Canada and France, or a National Health Service, as in the UK.  Progressives might well want to ponder joining the suits against ObamaCare.&quot;

Yes, John, my thoughts frequently go to that possibility. The &quot;compromise&quot; that Obama made may have trapped his twisted check off list of health care reform (i.e., he was able to fraudulently check of &quot;land mark health care reform, even though it is hardly anything ANYONE wants or needs).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;One wonders whether it would not be better if ObamaCare failed in the courts leaving us with the reasonable two choices: Medicare for all, as in Canada and France, or a National Health Service, as in the UK.  Progressives might well want to ponder joining the suits against ObamaCare.&#8221;</p>
<p>Yes, John, my thoughts frequently go to that possibility. The &#8220;compromise&#8221; that Obama made may have trapped his twisted check off list of health care reform (i.e., he was able to fraudulently check of &#8220;land mark health care reform, even though it is hardly anything ANYONE wants or needs).</p>
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		<title>By: Rehmat</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2010/12/obamacare-%e2%80%93-worse-than-you-thought/#comment-78915</link>
		<dc:creator>Rehmat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Dec 2010 15:28:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[No wonder more and more US heathcare organizations are looking toward Iran for inspiration.

http://rehmat1.wordpress.com/2010/06/04/irans-health-house-model-for-us/]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No wonder more and more US heathcare organizations are looking toward Iran for inspiration.</p>
<p><a href="http://rehmat1.wordpress.com/2010/06/04/irans-health-house-model-for-us/" rel="nofollow">http://rehmat1.wordpress.com/2010/06/04/irans-health-house-model-for-us/</a></p>
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