Comments on: Obama’s Liberty Problem

By: shabnam

shabnam — Mon, 27 Dec 2010 02:04:43 +0000

UN General Assembly voted early Friday to hold a summit commemorating the 10th anniversary of the contentious UN conference on RACISM that was dominated by clashes over the Middle East and the legacy of slavery.

The United States voted against the Durban III resolution. In a statement issued following the vote, US Ambassador to the U.N. Susan Rice said: “We voted ‘no’ because the Durban Declaration process has included ugly displays of intolerance and anti-Semitism, and we do not want to see that commemorated,” the statement said. “The United States is fully committed to upholding the human rights of all individuals and to combating racial discrimination, intolerance and bigotry. We stand ready to work with all partners to uphold human rights and fight racism around the world.”
Many African countries were directed to vote NO bythe US president , if that’s too much then stay away to avoid voting YES for Durban III. Please view the list to see how the world is divided between Zionist supporters where majority of them are referred to as ‘democratic’ West, including SWEDEN.
I am shocked to see Macedonia, a Muslim country, has been forced to vote against Durban III to become another Micronesia where always is instructed to vote with US/Israel against other countries. Many have joined Micronesia since, including the criminal entity of Albania. It is very interesting to see Tajikistan, Uzbekistan also have been turned to PUPPET STATES , even Somalia, due to an instruction of a black president at the WH who serves the interest of Israel. These African counties have shown less courage than occupied AFGHANISTAN.
On the other hand, the Latin American countries exibit more freedom of action compare to African states.

In favour: Afghanistan, Algeria, Argentina, Azerbaijan, Bahrain, Bangladesh, Barbados, Belarus, Belize, Benin, Bhutan, Bolivia, Botswana, Brazil, Brunei Darussalam, Burkina Faso, Burundi, Cambodia, Cameroon, Chile, China, Colombia, Congo, Costa Rica, Côte d’Ivoire, Cuba, Democratic People’s Republic of Korea, Djibouti, Dominican Republic, Ecuador, Egypt, Eritrea, Ethiopia, Fiji, Gabon, Ghana, Grenada, Guatemala, Guyana, Haiti, Honduras, India, Indonesia, Iran, Iraq, Jamaica, Jordan, Kazakhstan, Kuwait, Lao People’s Democratic Republic, Lebanon, Lesotho, Liberia, Libya, Madagascar, Malawi, Malaysia, Maldives, Mali, Mauritania, Mauritius, Mexico, Mongolia, Morocco, Myanmar, Namibia, Nepal, Nicaragua, Niger, Nigeria, Oman, Pakistan, Panama, Peru, Philippines, Qatar, Russian Federation, Rwanda, Saudi Arabia, Senegal, Singapore, Solomon Islands, South Africa, Sri Lanka, Sudan, Swaziland, Syria, Thailand, Timor-Leste, Togo, Trinidad and Tobago, Tunisia, Turkey, Turkmenistan, Tuvalu, Uganda, United Arab Emirates, United Republic of Tanzania, Uruguay, Venezuela, Viet Nam, Yemen, Zambia, Zimbabwe.
Against: Australia, Bulgaria, Canada, Czech Republic, Denmark, Estonia, Germany, Israel, Italy, Latvia, Lithuania, Marshall Islands, Micronesia (Federated States of), Netherlands, Palau, Poland, Romania, Slovakia, Sweden, The former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia, United Kingdom, United States.
Abstain: Albania, Andorra, Armenia, Austria, Belgium, Bosnia and Herzegovina, Croatia, Cyprus, Finland, France, Georgia, Greece, Hungary, Iceland, Ireland, Japan, Liechtenstein, Luxembourg, Malta, Monaco, Montenegro, New Zealand, Norway, Portugal, Republic of Korea, Republic of Moldova, Samoa, Serbia, Slovenia, Spain, Switzerland, Tonga, Ukraine.
Absent: Angola, Antigua and Barbuda, Bahamas, Cape Verde, Central African Republic, Chad, Comoros, Democratic Republic of the Congo, Dominica, El Salvador, Equatorial Guinea, Gambia, Guinea, Guinea-Bissau, Kenya, Kiribati, Kyrgyzstan, Mozambique, Nauru, Papua New Guinea, Paraguay, Saint Kitts and Nevis, Saint Lucia, Saint Vincent and the Grenadines, San Marino, Sao Tome and Principe, Seychelles, Sierra Leone, Somalia, Suriname, Tajikistan, Uzbekistan, Vanuatu.

By: Mulga Mumblebrain

Mulga Mumblebrain — Sun, 26 Dec 2010 21:31:54 +0000

Aside from the ludicrous assertion that this Kafkaesque measure is against US ‘traditions’, when it most certainly is not, it’s lovely to watch the contortions and listen to the obfuscations and, increasingly, silence of the Obama Hope Fiend suckers. After two years of a regime indistinguishable from that of Bush (save, as Berlusconi noted, for the cappo’s lovely tan)you’d think by now that at least a few of the prominent Obama flunkeys would have the guts, honesty and basic decency to get up and admit that they were dudded. In my opinion Obama is worse, concretely, than Bush, worse in his betrayals and worse in that his lame duck years will witness total collaboration with the deranged Republican zealots he helped elect. You can expect much more aggression, more drone murders (can there, conceivably, be a viler hypocrite than one, whose hands are caked in the blood of drone victims, posing as a moral authority, and condemning suicide bombers, probably stooges of Western intelligence, who target the same long-suffering people?) more kowtowing to the Chosen Ones, more regressive social policy, more tax cuts for the rich, more encircling and hectoring China, Russia and Iran, more meddling in South America, more sabotage of climate change action, all ameliorated by photo-ops, where he can grin to his heart’s content, utter a few mendacious platitudes and the bien pensant ‘progressives’ can anaesthetise their minds and consciences by congratulating themselves on how racially broadminded they are as to support a ‘black’ man as President.

By: andy.turner.pacsurveys

andy.turner.pacsurveys — Sun, 26 Dec 2010 04:56:56 +0000

subjugation is evident with the new indefinite detention scheme

By: Max Shields

Max Shields — Sat, 25 Dec 2010 17:29:55 +0000

While I, like you Mr. Andrews, would like to see more references in the DV posts – and particular accusations that while they appear plausible, don’t always have more than innuendo wrapped around it. However, it does appear that the MSM has picked up on this as well, namely ABC news:

In a speech at the National Archives in May 2009, President Obama acknowledged that his way forward in dealing with the terrorist threat would include indefinite detention.

The Obama admin more than admits to this, it looks like it’s moving forward in a public way:
http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2010/12/executive-order-being-drafted-for-indefinite-detention.html

By: John Andrews

John Andrews — Sat, 25 Dec 2010 07:16:23 +0000

“Advisors in the Obama administration have floated the idea of creating a special new legal system to indefinitely detain people by Executive Order.”

Where is the proof that this is being done?

Whilst I don’t doubt it’s quite possible a bit of proof would be nice.

By: bozh

bozh — Fri, 24 Dec 2010 18:22:19 +0000

“now, one can be a [un]wittingly willing serf or not, but, once again calling serfs “free” servants amounts to quite a warp of words.”
this needs clarification:
a person being [un[wittingly willing serf or not can be called free even, tho, it does not seem to matter or make sense.

for one thing, nobody wants to be knowingly a servant or subservient to anyone.
it is just that americans are conditioned to evaluate that they were free or that they participated in lawmaking.
to outsiders, they were never ever free nor participating in the governance; they merely thought so.

americans were always free to gamble, lie, cheat, swindle, deceive, move the ass about, believe in gods-spirits, exploit, feel superior, etc.. and that remains.
this analyses is valid for many other ethnicities; usans r not an exception. tnx

By: bozh

bozh — Fri, 24 Dec 2010 15:38:34 +0000

“The right to liberty is one of the foundation rights of a free people. The idea that any US President can bypass Congress and bypass the Courts by issuing an Executive Order setting up a new legal system for indefinite detention of people should rightfully scare the hell out of the americans”.

alas, we have not been free anywhere on planet until just millennia ago. we have been for a long time interdependent and becoming dependent, say, 10 k yrs ago.

so, saying that we were, say, 50 yrs ago, free [in]dependencies, does not make any sense to me. for, one label clashes with the other.
one cannot be free and be a [in]dependency-in-whatever-degree.

and, if we were interdependent, then, the label “free” for people in such a structure society amounts to a repeat of same idea.

and, if we had laws, say, in india, and not diktats imposed from above, once again, the label “free” appears superfluous.

americans have always been ruled by ‘laws’; written by supremacists for serfs.
now, one can be a [un]wittingly willing serf or not, but, once again calling serfs “free” servants amounts to quite a warp of words.

and, since u.s appears a lawless region [yes, region-- and not a country; ruled by mafia], obama is acting in a lawless way just like every prez had done before him.

one can be only in two ways: interdependent-to-a degree or dependent-to-a degree.
a prez may be deemed as one of the most interdependent regionals– a house person most dependent.
even a hobo, bless herhis interdependence, appears more interdependent than a miner, fisher, tiller, soldier.

a hobo or homeless p. lives from what people throw away! i call that a positive interelationship or structure of existence.
it is also very good for the environment! tnx