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		<title>By: bozh</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2010/12/bah-fa-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la/#comment-78134</link>
		<dc:creator>bozh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Dec 2010 21:23:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;each american&quot; sees nutting.  may i take that back?  i have contradicted self.  i have said that there  is no americans nor america. what we see is a region ruled by families.
they call their servants &quot;americans&quot;.  even a nanni can become american in the yes of the cosa nostra.
a hopi, apache, uncle pedro, abduallah, ali, uncle tom, aunt sarah, all can be called &quot;americans&quot;. 
ok, so what&#039;s this all about? that all americans are equal? equally ignorant? all falling in hate with islam? that they all shld be called &quot;regionals&quot;? some dying in service of that region and the cosa nostra? 
u be the judge!
i am an earthman.  soon to lose my country: the planet.  but, then, being eighty, the news of losing my earth, appears  premature! but, then, who noze?
does even the happy family know? tnx for ur left-leaning ears! fascist ear, too!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;each american&#8221; sees nutting.  may i take that back?  i have contradicted self.  i have said that there  is no americans nor america. what we see is a region ruled by families.<br />
they call their servants &#8220;americans&#8221;.  even a nanni can become american in the yes of the cosa nostra.<br />
a hopi, apache, uncle pedro, abduallah, ali, uncle tom, aunt sarah, all can be called &#8220;americans&#8221;.<br />
ok, so what&#8217;s this all about? that all americans are equal? equally ignorant? all falling in hate with islam? that they all shld be called &#8220;regionals&#8221;? some dying in service of that region and the cosa nostra?<br />
u be the judge!<br />
i am an earthman.  soon to lose my country: the planet.  but, then, being eighty, the news of losing my earth, appears  premature! but, then, who noze?<br />
does even the happy family know? tnx for ur left-leaning ears! fascist ear, too!</p>
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		<title>By: hayate</title>
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		<dc:creator>hayate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Dec 2010 20:50:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Deadbeat said on December 11th, 2010 at 11:41pm

Cheers and thanks.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Deadbeat said on December 11th, 2010 at 11:41pm</p>
<p>Cheers and thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: Don Hawkins</title>
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		<dc:creator>Don Hawkins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Dec 2010 17:31:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[and each american cld say, I see nutting, i know nutting.   I thought if we see something say something the new thing in old twenty ten. Now could the real reason be not so much for national security but inter security somewhat of a prison for the mind.   Go shopping and keep your eye&#039;s open the whole damn thing is crazy.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>and each american cld say, I see nutting, i know nutting.   I thought if we see something say something the new thing in old twenty ten. Now could the real reason be not so much for national security but inter security somewhat of a prison for the mind.   Go shopping and keep your eye&#8217;s open the whole damn thing is crazy.</p>
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		<title>By: bozh</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2010/12/bah-fa-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la/#comment-78127</link>
		<dc:creator>bozh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Dec 2010 17:21:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[it is still illusory to sever a set of  supremacists [fascists, if u prefer] from a much larger set of egzact-thinking-doing people.
for millennia there had been everywhere one structure of society.  broadly, it consisted of a master and servant class.

in its end stage, it may become ideally inegalitarian.   in u.s, today,  development towards an ideally fascist structure appears to be increasing  by leaps and bounds.

how do those who blame solely a set of fascist do not see 700 bases, one mn dead people in iraq.
these were  slain by christian soldiers.  so, is obama, bush, clinton, or powell gonna say, Jews made me do it!  i was only following orders.  and each american cld say, I see nutting, i know nutting.
the last statement actually being true! tnx]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>it is still illusory to sever a set of  supremacists [fascists, if u prefer] from a much larger set of egzact-thinking-doing people.<br />
for millennia there had been everywhere one structure of society.  broadly, it consisted of a master and servant class.</p>
<p>in its end stage, it may become ideally inegalitarian.   in u.s, today,  development towards an ideally fascist structure appears to be increasing  by leaps and bounds.</p>
<p>how do those who blame solely a set of fascist do not see 700 bases, one mn dead people in iraq.<br />
these were  slain by christian soldiers.  so, is obama, bush, clinton, or powell gonna say, Jews made me do it!  i was only following orders.  and each american cld say, I see nutting, i know nutting.<br />
the last statement actually being true! tnx</p>
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		<title>By: Deadbeat</title>
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		<dc:creator>Deadbeat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Dec 2010 06:41:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[ERBills:“my broader point is that there are plenty of other issues to address on DV on subjects that don’t concern zionism, zionazis, etc.”

hayate:  Unfortunately zionism is infiltrated into just about every aspect of western life. Be it economic, social, academic, you name it, there is a zionist influence there. ... The fact is, that with zionist influence THE major force in america, and most of the British Commonwealth, or ex-Commonwealth, and of a varying and mostly growing importance in many other regions, little happens today without the events being influenced by ziofascism, inc. at some important level. Just like little happens without capitalism influencing the event at some level or another.

EXCELLENT RESPONSE to the question of why so much focus on Zionism.  Clearly this is a topic the pseudo-Left never wanted to discuss deflecting the issue to &quot;U.S. Imperialism(tm)&quot;.  This is the reason why the focus on Zionism seems so &quot;disturbing&quot; and makes activists feel so uncomfortable that they want to change the subject.  Only by confronting Zionism can Zionism be challenged and people get educated.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ERBills:“my broader point is that there are plenty of other issues to address on DV on subjects that don’t concern zionism, zionazis, etc.”</p>
<p>hayate:  Unfortunately zionism is infiltrated into just about every aspect of western life. Be it economic, social, academic, you name it, there is a zionist influence there. &#8230; The fact is, that with zionist influence THE major force in america, and most of the British Commonwealth, or ex-Commonwealth, and of a varying and mostly growing importance in many other regions, little happens today without the events being influenced by ziofascism, inc. at some important level. Just like little happens without capitalism influencing the event at some level or another.</p>
<p>EXCELLENT RESPONSE to the question of why so much focus on Zionism.  Clearly this is a topic the pseudo-Left never wanted to discuss deflecting the issue to &#8220;U.S. Imperialism(tm)&#8221;.  This is the reason why the focus on Zionism seems so &#8220;disturbing&#8221; and makes activists feel so uncomfortable that they want to change the subject.  Only by confronting Zionism can Zionism be challenged and people get educated.</p>
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		<title>By: bozh</title>
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		<dc:creator>bozh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Dec 2010 19:52:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[it seems to me that regarding what israel does, most of us seem to say much the same thing.
the difference between my position and  theirs is that i think israel is  a dependency on nato-u.s.
these people also split supremacism [fascism-inegaliatrianism] asunder into nonsupremacism and supremacism or fascism and nonfascism and i don&#039;t.

i, instead, split asunder  social structure into an idillic structure of society and ideally inegalitarian.
in an ideally fascist structure of society, we may always have people sleeping under bridges and people sleeping in mansions and latter holding all the power.

nearly all or even all &#039;jews&#039; appear supremacistic and are vigorously supported
by at least by one bn other supremacists.
i evaluate this as fact an draw own conclusion as to where we are headed: hell, i think, even for many &#039;jews&#039; and not just for other &#039;lowlife&#039;! 
it shld be noted 3bancan had even libeled me as a nazi defender! tnx]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>it seems to me that regarding what israel does, most of us seem to say much the same thing.<br />
the difference between my position and  theirs is that i think israel is  a dependency on nato-u.s.<br />
these people also split supremacism [fascism-inegaliatrianism] asunder into nonsupremacism and supremacism or fascism and nonfascism and i don&#8217;t.</p>
<p>i, instead, split asunder  social structure into an idillic structure of society and ideally inegalitarian.<br />
in an ideally fascist structure of society, we may always have people sleeping under bridges and people sleeping in mansions and latter holding all the power.</p>
<p>nearly all or even all &#8216;jews&#8217; appear supremacistic and are vigorously supported<br />
by at least by one bn other supremacists.<br />
i evaluate this as fact an draw own conclusion as to where we are headed: hell, i think, even for many &#8216;jews&#8217; and not just for other &#8216;lowlife&#8217;!<br />
it shld be noted 3bancan had even libeled me as a nazi defender! tnx</p>
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		<title>By: 3bancan</title>
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		<dc:creator>3bancan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Dec 2010 19:14:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[E.R. Bills said on December 10th, 2010 at 3:25pm #
&quot;I think we (me, 3bancan, hayate, mary, bohz, etc) probably have more in common on these issues than we disagree on&quot;
How one can see me having anything in common with bozh really is a real mystery...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>E.R. Bills said on December 10th, 2010 at 3:25pm #<br />
&#8220;I think we (me, 3bancan, hayate, mary, bohz, etc) probably have more in common on these issues than we disagree on&#8221;<br />
How one can see me having anything in common with bozh really is a real mystery&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: hayate</title>
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		<dc:creator>hayate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Dec 2010 03:18:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[E.R. Bills

&quot;I think we (me, 3bancan, hayate, mary, bohz, etc) probably have more in common on these issues than we disagree on.&quot;

Probably. :)

&quot;my broader point is that there are plenty of other issues to address on DV on subjects that don’t concern zionism, zionazis, etc.&quot;

Unfortunately zionism is infiltrated into just about every aspect of western life. Be it economic, social, academic, you name it, there is a zionist influence there. It may not be apparent to a casual observer, most of the time the zionist influence is more or less in agreement with the rest of rightwing capitalist influence, such as the fascist/ziofascist coup against Honduras, so it is not something generally remarked upon, or noticed. But when there is conflict between zionist and non-zionist capitalists (all zionists are capitalists, BTW, irregardless of the deflections they employ to deny this) and the zionists win out, the influence is obvious and stands out. That occurrence is actually very rare, though, so someone not attuned to the ziofascist-fascist union may perceive that zionist influence is only in some isolated examples. The fact is, that with zionist influence THE major force in america, and most of the British Commonwealth, or ex-Commonwealth, and of a varying and mostly growing importance in many other regions, little happens today without the events being influenced by ziofascism, inc. at some important level. Just like little happens without capitalism influencing the event at some level or another.

As for Dissident Voice paying a lot of attention to zionism, anti-zionism is probably the most important dissidence right now. If we ignore the zionist corrupting of just about everything in our lives, we will remain obedient dogs chasing their own tails.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>E.R. Bills</p>
<p>&#8220;I think we (me, 3bancan, hayate, mary, bohz, etc) probably have more in common on these issues than we disagree on.&#8221;</p>
<p>Probably. :)</p>
<p>&#8220;my broader point is that there are plenty of other issues to address on DV on subjects that don’t concern zionism, zionazis, etc.&#8221;</p>
<p>Unfortunately zionism is infiltrated into just about every aspect of western life. Be it economic, social, academic, you name it, there is a zionist influence there. It may not be apparent to a casual observer, most of the time the zionist influence is more or less in agreement with the rest of rightwing capitalist influence, such as the fascist/ziofascist coup against Honduras, so it is not something generally remarked upon, or noticed. But when there is conflict between zionist and non-zionist capitalists (all zionists are capitalists, BTW, irregardless of the deflections they employ to deny this) and the zionists win out, the influence is obvious and stands out. That occurrence is actually very rare, though, so someone not attuned to the ziofascist-fascist union may perceive that zionist influence is only in some isolated examples. The fact is, that with zionist influence THE major force in america, and most of the British Commonwealth, or ex-Commonwealth, and of a varying and mostly growing importance in many other regions, little happens today without the events being influenced by ziofascism, inc. at some important level. Just like little happens without capitalism influencing the event at some level or another.</p>
<p>As for Dissident Voice paying a lot of attention to zionism, anti-zionism is probably the most important dissidence right now. If we ignore the zionist corrupting of just about everything in our lives, we will remain obedient dogs chasing their own tails.</p>
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		<title>By: E.R. Bills</title>
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		<dc:creator>E.R. Bills</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Dec 2010 22:25:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[okay. perhaps I misspoke (er, uh, wrote). and perhaps I am not being clear.  I am not a fan of Israel. I condemn the way they treat the Palestinians.  I don&#039;t like their ideas. I don&#039;t like their methods. and  I don&#039;t like their religion (or any of the three desert religions that sprang from the middle east for that matter). their pseudo-state was foisted upon the palestinians et al without consent and the palestinians have every right to make war on a presence which obvuiously comprises a genocidal occupation. I&#039;m sure that  some of my indigenous American ancestors felt the same way about the Protestants flooding in from Europe. I think we (me, 3bancan, hayate, mary, bohz, etc) probably have more in common on these issues than we disagree on. my broader point is that there are plenty of other issues to address on DV on subjects that don&#039;t concern zionism, zionazis, etc.  if I&#039;m clueless and DV was designed primarily to bang the drum for anti-zionist voices, lemme know.  cause if that&#039;s all or mostly all DV is about, I&#039;m in the wrong place.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>okay. perhaps I misspoke (er, uh, wrote). and perhaps I am not being clear.  I am not a fan of Israel. I condemn the way they treat the Palestinians.  I don&#8217;t like their ideas. I don&#8217;t like their methods. and  I don&#8217;t like their religion (or any of the three desert religions that sprang from the middle east for that matter). their pseudo-state was foisted upon the palestinians et al without consent and the palestinians have every right to make war on a presence which obvuiously comprises a genocidal occupation. I&#8217;m sure that  some of my indigenous American ancestors felt the same way about the Protestants flooding in from Europe. I think we (me, 3bancan, hayate, mary, bohz, etc) probably have more in common on these issues than we disagree on. my broader point is that there are plenty of other issues to address on DV on subjects that don&#8217;t concern zionism, zionazis, etc.  if I&#8217;m clueless and DV was designed primarily to bang the drum for anti-zionist voices, lemme know.  cause if that&#8217;s all or mostly all DV is about, I&#8217;m in the wrong place.</p>
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		<title>By: bozh</title>
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		<dc:creator>bozh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Dec 2010 21:47:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[it is a classical ruse evaluating a known fact as equal in validity  with an event that might happen.
it is not very wise to say that palestinians wld have done  to  &#039;jews&#039; what &#039;jews&#039; r doing to  paln&#039;s if the roles were reversed.
it cannot happen, to boot.  so, why invoke such a comparison?  unless, one approbates what christo-talmudic soyuz is doing to pal&#039;ns.

actually, w.o. christian help,  &#039;jews&#039; cld have never established a state of their own in palestine.
i also think that the sole reason palestine had been picked for victimization was to lure the vilest-dumbest people imaginable to palestina.
 and anyone who read torah or knew even a little of these looniest people on earth, cld have predicted more or less that what&#039;s happening in israel, wld happen. tnx]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>it is a classical ruse evaluating a known fact as equal in validity  with an event that might happen.<br />
it is not very wise to say that palestinians wld have done  to  &#8216;jews&#8217; what &#8216;jews&#8217; r doing to  paln&#8217;s if the roles were reversed.<br />
it cannot happen, to boot.  so, why invoke such a comparison?  unless, one approbates what christo-talmudic soyuz is doing to pal&#8217;ns.</p>
<p>actually, w.o. christian help,  &#8216;jews&#8217; cld have never established a state of their own in palestine.<br />
i also think that the sole reason palestine had been picked for victimization was to lure the vilest-dumbest people imaginable to palestina.<br />
 and anyone who read torah or knew even a little of these looniest people on earth, cld have predicted more or less that what&#8217;s happening in israel, wld happen. tnx</p>
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		<title>By: E.R. Bills</title>
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		<dc:creator>E.R. Bills</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Dec 2010 19:42:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[uh, 3bancan... so when I charaterize one side as unjust I&#039;m equating the two? the root term of ignorance is ignore. you are being selectively perceptive. isn&#039;t that a zionazi tactic?is  this zionazi ruse?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>uh, 3bancan&#8230; so when I charaterize one side as unjust I&#8217;m equating the two? the root term of ignorance is ignore. you are being selectively perceptive. isn&#8217;t that a zionazi tactic?is  this zionazi ruse?</p>
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		<title>By: 3bancan</title>
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		<dc:creator>3bancan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Dec 2010 19:31:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[E.R. Bills said on December 10th, 2010 at 11:23am #
&quot;it’s never been demonstrated to me that if the israeli-palestinian roles were reversed, the palestinians would be any more humane or accomodating than the israelis&quot;
An anti-intellect argument. Nobody except E.R. Bills needs and/or asks for such a ludicrous &quot;demonstration&quot;.
&quot;both sides have more than their share of clannish, hatfield/McCoy yahoos and I wouldn’t want to be the nieghbors, subjects or fellow citizens of either&quot;
Another bogus argument, and another example of &quot;evenhandedness&quot; of the typical zionazi type: where there is a quite homogeneous group of illegal genocidal colonial invaders perpetrating genocide against the innocent unarmed indigenous population, the real owners of the land, E.R. Bills sees two equal sides with some bad apples in both of them against whom he directs his disgust. In other words, he equalizes the Jewish genociders with their victims, the Palestinians - the criminal===the victim...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>E.R. Bills said on December 10th, 2010 at 11:23am #<br />
&#8220;it’s never been demonstrated to me that if the israeli-palestinian roles were reversed, the palestinians would be any more humane or accomodating than the israelis&#8221;<br />
An anti-intellect argument. Nobody except E.R. Bills needs and/or asks for such a ludicrous &#8220;demonstration&#8221;.<br />
&#8220;both sides have more than their share of clannish, hatfield/McCoy yahoos and I wouldn’t want to be the nieghbors, subjects or fellow citizens of either&#8221;<br />
Another bogus argument, and another example of &#8220;evenhandedness&#8221; of the typical zionazi type: where there is a quite homogeneous group of illegal genocidal colonial invaders perpetrating genocide against the innocent unarmed indigenous population, the real owners of the land, E.R. Bills sees two equal sides with some bad apples in both of them against whom he directs his disgust. In other words, he equalizes the Jewish genociders with their victims, the Palestinians &#8211; the criminal===the victim&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: E.R. Bills</title>
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		<dc:creator>E.R. Bills</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Dec 2010 18:23:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[3bancan:

I&#039;m not sure there are any legitimate states, just states of mind and people. if it makes you feel better or superior to pigeonhole me into zionist or anti-zionist positions, knock yerself out. I&#039;ve already stated on numerous occasions that I don&#039;t care much for israel or their lobby here in the states. my original response to Hayate&#039;s now deleted comment was an off-the-cuff &quot;israelli-schmizraeli&quot; becuase I think it&#039;s ridiculous that so many pieces on this site are distorted and warped into debates over israel. I think zionists are a pathetic lot. But I also feel that way about christians and muslims. and americans these days. if the only bars to the cage you see are palestinian, that&#039;s fine. they&#039;re unjust and need to be addressed. but there are many other cages and bars out there and I don&#039;t think the israelis or jews are the wardens or have the keys to all or even most of them. but if you want me to fan the flames I will. it&#039;s never been demonstrated to me that if the israeli-palestinian roles were reversed, the palestinians would be any more humane or accomodating than the israelis. both sides have more than their share of  clannish, hatfield/McCoy yahoos and I wouldn&#039;t want to be the nieghbors, subjects or fellow citizens of either.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>3bancan:</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not sure there are any legitimate states, just states of mind and people. if it makes you feel better or superior to pigeonhole me into zionist or anti-zionist positions, knock yerself out. I&#8217;ve already stated on numerous occasions that I don&#8217;t care much for israel or their lobby here in the states. my original response to Hayate&#8217;s now deleted comment was an off-the-cuff &#8220;israelli-schmizraeli&#8221; becuase I think it&#8217;s ridiculous that so many pieces on this site are distorted and warped into debates over israel. I think zionists are a pathetic lot. But I also feel that way about christians and muslims. and americans these days. if the only bars to the cage you see are palestinian, that&#8217;s fine. they&#8217;re unjust and need to be addressed. but there are many other cages and bars out there and I don&#8217;t think the israelis or jews are the wardens or have the keys to all or even most of them. but if you want me to fan the flames I will. it&#8217;s never been demonstrated to me that if the israeli-palestinian roles were reversed, the palestinians would be any more humane or accomodating than the israelis. both sides have more than their share of  clannish, hatfield/McCoy yahoos and I wouldn&#8217;t want to be the nieghbors, subjects or fellow citizens of either.</p>
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		<title>By: 3bancan</title>
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		<dc:creator>3bancan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Dec 2010 17:37:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[E.R. Bills said on December 10th, 2010 at 8:59am #
&quot;Of course the land was Palestine… and something else before that. And something else before that&quot;
Imho E.R. Bills wants to say that in his eyes Israel is a legitimate state and the Jewish genociders who flocked in there from other parts of the world are the legitimate owners of the land.
&quot;The land itself doesn’t care what you call it&quot;
Yeah, and the sun rises in the east.
&quot;The attachment ot the land is a one-way relation&quot;
Yeah, 1+1=2. Instead of talking about legitimacy and justice E.R. Bills prefers to blather about &quot;attachment to/obsession over&quot; the land.
&quot;but the israelis obviously obssess over this dust as much or more than the palestinians&quot;
This amount to asserting that the white genociders from Europe &quot;obviously&quot; (sic!) obsess(ed) over the land in the Americas &quot;as much or more than the&quot; indigenous Indian population. 
&quot;I root for the palestinians in this struggle, but (sic!!!)&quot;
I&#039;m not a Palestinian, but I doubt that the Palestinians are happy with such rooters for their cause like E.R. Bills...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>E.R. Bills said on December 10th, 2010 at 8:59am #<br />
&#8220;Of course the land was Palestine… and something else before that. And something else before that&#8221;<br />
Imho E.R. Bills wants to say that in his eyes Israel is a legitimate state and the Jewish genociders who flocked in there from other parts of the world are the legitimate owners of the land.<br />
&#8220;The land itself doesn’t care what you call it&#8221;<br />
Yeah, and the sun rises in the east.<br />
&#8220;The attachment ot the land is a one-way relation&#8221;<br />
Yeah, 1+1=2. Instead of talking about legitimacy and justice E.R. Bills prefers to blather about &#8220;attachment to/obsession over&#8221; the land.<br />
&#8220;but the israelis obviously obssess over this dust as much or more than the palestinians&#8221;<br />
This amount to asserting that the white genociders from Europe &#8220;obviously&#8221; (sic!) obsess(ed) over the land in the Americas &#8220;as much or more than the&#8221; indigenous Indian population.<br />
&#8220;I root for the palestinians in this struggle, but (sic!!!)&#8221;<br />
I&#8217;m not a Palestinian, but I doubt that the Palestinians are happy with such rooters for their cause like E.R. Bills&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Rehmat</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2010/12/bah-fa-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la/#comment-78034</link>
		<dc:creator>Rehmat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Dec 2010 17:02:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Paige Turner MD, having been a born-again Christian for 22 years, she devoted her life in studying Bible and holy Qur’an to find material to apply to convert Muslims to Christianity. However, to her great surprise – in her comparison, she found many historical lies and distortion of the so-called “Bible bieng the Word of God”. In her book “How to Prove That Christianity Is Not True” published in 1992 – she wrote that “nothing in the Old Testament pertains to Jesus”, which the priests quote to ignorant Christians. For example:

Genesis 17:19 - “And God said, Sarah thy wife shall bear a son indeed; and thou shalt call his name Isaac; and I will establish my convenant with him for everlasting convenant, and with his seed after him.”

According to Dr. Turner – God also blessed and multiplied Ishmael, who was another son of Abraham. At this point God told Abraham and Isaac and all male members of their household to be circumcised. this makes no reference to any Messiah, but rather states that He will establish his convenant with Isaac and that it would be everlasting (as long as they obey Lod). The verse, however, had nothing to do with Jesus.

http://rehmat1.wordpress.com/2009/01/10/searching-for-jesus-as-eh/]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Paige Turner MD, having been a born-again Christian for 22 years, she devoted her life in studying Bible and holy Qur’an to find material to apply to convert Muslims to Christianity. However, to her great surprise – in her comparison, she found many historical lies and distortion of the so-called “Bible bieng the Word of God”. In her book “How to Prove That Christianity Is Not True” published in 1992 – she wrote that “nothing in the Old Testament pertains to Jesus”, which the priests quote to ignorant Christians. For example:</p>
<p>Genesis 17:19 &#8211; “And God said, Sarah thy wife shall bear a son indeed; and thou shalt call his name Isaac; and I will establish my convenant with him for everlasting convenant, and with his seed after him.”</p>
<p>According to Dr. Turner – God also blessed and multiplied Ishmael, who was another son of Abraham. At this point God told Abraham and Isaac and all male members of their household to be circumcised. this makes no reference to any Messiah, but rather states that He will establish his convenant with Isaac and that it would be everlasting (as long as they obey Lod). The verse, however, had nothing to do with Jesus.</p>
<p><a href="http://rehmat1.wordpress.com/2009/01/10/searching-for-jesus-as-eh/" rel="nofollow">http://rehmat1.wordpress.com/2009/01/10/searching-for-jesus-as-eh/</a></p>
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		<title>By: E.R. Bills</title>
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		<dc:creator>E.R. Bills</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Dec 2010 16:53:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Mary:

It got removed. He referred to Liberte as an Israeli and a troll. Apparently it violated &quot;commenting etiquette.&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mary:</p>
<p>It got removed. He referred to Liberte as an Israeli and a troll. Apparently it violated &#8220;commenting etiquette.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: mary</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2010/12/bah-fa-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la/#comment-78029</link>
		<dc:creator>mary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Dec 2010 16:44:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I can&#039;t see Hayate on here.]]></description>
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		<title>By: E.R. Bills</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2010/12/bah-fa-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la/#comment-78026</link>
		<dc:creator>E.R. Bills</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Dec 2010 15:59:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hayate brought up the Israeli issue. I simply responded off the cuff. Of course the Israelis are genocidal. Nothing new. Of course the land was Palestine... and something else before that. And something else before that. The land itself doesn&#039;t care what you call it. Only the people fighting over it give it importance and project personal and cultural meaning. The attachment ot the land is a one-way relation. The dust and dirt itself is oblivious to whether jew or palestinian trods over it. if it&#039;s any consolation, I root for the palestinians in this struggle. but the israelis obviously obssess over this dust as much or more than the palestinians. and they have aligned themselves with more powerful, though less just powers. they shame only themselves.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hayate brought up the Israeli issue. I simply responded off the cuff. Of course the Israelis are genocidal. Nothing new. Of course the land was Palestine&#8230; and something else before that. And something else before that. The land itself doesn&#8217;t care what you call it. Only the people fighting over it give it importance and project personal and cultural meaning. The attachment ot the land is a one-way relation. The dust and dirt itself is oblivious to whether jew or palestinian trods over it. if it&#8217;s any consolation, I root for the palestinians in this struggle. but the israelis obviously obssess over this dust as much or more than the palestinians. and they have aligned themselves with more powerful, though less just powers. they shame only themselves.</p>
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		<title>By: bozh</title>
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		<dc:creator>bozh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Dec 2010 11:41:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;they fight over dust&quot;  needs clarifying.  we know that people lived in the area for at least 10 k yrs; probably fighting over or for it.  but, then, what people haven&#039;t defended or fought for their habitat? lucky ones, i guess!
it is good enough to sustain one or two mn people if they&#039;d live in a pristine way; i.e., sustainably.
 the quoted  statement does seem to including alien and indigenous pop! tnx]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;they fight over dust&#8221;  needs clarifying.  we know that people lived in the area for at least 10 k yrs; probably fighting over or for it.  but, then, what people haven&#8217;t defended or fought for their habitat? lucky ones, i guess!<br />
it is good enough to sustain one or two mn people if they&#8217;d live in a pristine way; i.e., sustainably.<br />
 the quoted  statement does seem to including alien and indigenous pop! tnx</p>
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		<title>By: mary</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2010/12/bah-fa-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la/#comment-78004</link>
		<dc:creator>mary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Dec 2010 10:32:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You said it better and with more emphasis than me 3bancan.  I couldn&#039;t see the significance of the comment anyway in relation to the subject of the article especially as Israel hadn&#039;t been referred to until Bills brought it up.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You said it better and with more emphasis than me 3bancan.  I couldn&#8217;t see the significance of the comment anyway in relation to the subject of the article especially as Israel hadn&#8217;t been referred to until Bills brought it up.</p>
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