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		<title>By: Don Hawkins</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2010/12/2010-news-round-up-profiles-quotes-troubled-times/#comment-79103</link>
		<dc:creator>Don Hawkins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Jan 2011 20:20:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hay that would be a good short story the cost of staying silent or lying sort of I like to call it lawyer talk that much more will be heard, happen very soon. Am trying to think of an ending maybe something with repeat the obvious with a twist woven in maybe a starship headed far far away an old starship with old engines and fuel well enough to get maybe 200 light years out and a computer onboard named Hal who doesn&#039;t tell the truth preprogrammed by a group nobody knows about yet.  I know needs work. Hal how much fuel onboard 85 million Captain more than enough for the return trip.  Hal are you telling the truth yes Captain my master preprogrammed me to always&#039; tell the truth.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hay that would be a good short story the cost of staying silent or lying sort of I like to call it lawyer talk that much more will be heard, happen very soon. Am trying to think of an ending maybe something with repeat the obvious with a twist woven in maybe a starship headed far far away an old starship with old engines and fuel well enough to get maybe 200 light years out and a computer onboard named Hal who doesn&#8217;t tell the truth preprogrammed by a group nobody knows about yet.  I know needs work. Hal how much fuel onboard 85 million Captain more than enough for the return trip.  Hal are you telling the truth yes Captain my master preprogrammed me to always&#8217; tell the truth.</p>
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		<title>By: Don Hawkins</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2010/12/2010-news-round-up-profiles-quotes-troubled-times/#comment-79102</link>
		<dc:creator>Don Hawkins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Jan 2011 19:34:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Let&#039;s see today on Fox New&#039;s a talking head and a policy maker talking about climate change the level of intelligent&#039;s on a scale between 1 and 10 was about .05 and that could be pushing it. On CNN this morning the last story was Queensland and the flooding 15 seconds a few pictures that&#039;s it. On the Weather Channel 25 seconds and they did say Biblical’ Floods then went to another story the football weather I think not one word on why you know maybe a chart or two of the ocean temperatures and forecast temperatures heck maybe a word or two on the first climate crisis in 2010 but the people we see who don&#039;t tell the truth but stay silent yes there is an outside force controlling there thought&#039;s and just on the off chance that&#039;s true I&#039;d ask for a pay raise.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let&#8217;s see today on Fox New&#8217;s a talking head and a policy maker talking about climate change the level of intelligent&#8217;s on a scale between 1 and 10 was about .05 and that could be pushing it. On CNN this morning the last story was Queensland and the flooding 15 seconds a few pictures that&#8217;s it. On the Weather Channel 25 seconds and they did say Biblical’ Floods then went to another story the football weather I think not one word on why you know maybe a chart or two of the ocean temperatures and forecast temperatures heck maybe a word or two on the first climate crisis in 2010 but the people we see who don&#8217;t tell the truth but stay silent yes there is an outside force controlling there thought&#8217;s and just on the off chance that&#8217;s true I&#8217;d ask for a pay raise.</p>
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		<title>By: bozh</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2010/12/2010-news-round-up-profiles-quotes-troubled-times/#comment-79055</link>
		<dc:creator>bozh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Jan 2011 18:20:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[0n the other hand, babich, prez of republika srpska krajina, rsk [with a pop of ca. 300k] complained that miloshevich lied to him.
tudjman and croatian leadership lied to croatian people in croatia and bosnia about croat&#039;n aggression against bosniaks [muslims]

croatian leadership also jailed some officers for not commanding croat&#039;n soldiers and ensuring that they not kill serb civilians once military action was over: in medak pocket &#039;93, w.slavonia early &#039;95, and Knin area in aug &#039;95.

it shld have been tudjman and croat&#039;n govt members who shld have been tried for those crimes [it seems 2-3k civilians had been killed in the three battles] and not generals norac, gotovina, cermak, markac, et al.
sentencing chermak, markach, and gotovina is due in april &#039;11.

as for karadzich, i don&#039;t know what he hadn&#039;t lied about. most notable lie had been that serb aggression against bosnia had been about defence of serbs and gathering all serbs in one land.
ok! it may not be called a lie. how about self-delusion? resulting in death of  innocent serbs also. plus 142k dead bosniaks and in name of uniting all holy serb lands in one area! 

and hadn&#039;t miloshevic lied to everybody when he made an agreement with tudjman to split asunder bosnia. price being abandonment of rsk by serb army in &#039;04.
and indeed serb army [euphemisticly called yug&#039;v army] had left for bosnia in order to further terrorize bosniaks.

serbia had also been guilty in not preventing evacuation of rsk serbs. google &quot;knin je pao u beogradu&quot; [knin fell in belgrad {white city} by major general, milisav sekulich, who said that order by rsk leadership to evacuate civilians, was the worst thing it cld have done.
naturally, the battle had also been a cause for serb mass departure from rsk. serbia did tell rsk prior to last battle &#039;95 that it  was all over and to go for peace 
agreement.
the only serb leader who the day before the battle opted for a peaceful solution had been babich.
croatia demanded unconditional surrender. however, too many serbs had done too many wrongs against the croats [3k dead; 400k expelled] to undergo death or jailings. 

but one of the biggest lies ever had been about a-bombings of hiroshima and nagasaki and nazi ideas about necessity of killing-expelling all &#039;jews&#039;, poles, romas, et al.
so, neither croats nor serbs cld with straight face claim the coveted championship. 

actually slovene, croat, serb, bosnian, macedonian, montenegrin leadership of &#039;18 shld be commended for being the first nations [never in the yes of evil empires] to have voluntarily entered a governmental union.
alas, mistakenly.  they did not know serbs or did but nevertheless not well enough.
it had been serbs which deposed elected yug&#039;v govt in &#039;41; abrogated the peace pakt with germany by shouting &quot;bolje rat nego pakt&quot; [better war than peace].
which suited evil empires just fine.
hoever, it also suited all Left [and to this day] and Right. go figure!   tnx]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>0n the other hand, babich, prez of republika srpska krajina, rsk [with a pop of ca. 300k] complained that miloshevich lied to him.<br />
tudjman and croatian leadership lied to croatian people in croatia and bosnia about croat&#8217;n aggression against bosniaks [muslims]</p>
<p>croatian leadership also jailed some officers for not commanding croat&#8217;n soldiers and ensuring that they not kill serb civilians once military action was over: in medak pocket &#8217;93, w.slavonia early &#8217;95, and Knin area in aug &#8217;95.</p>
<p>it shld have been tudjman and croat&#8217;n govt members who shld have been tried for those crimes [it seems 2-3k civilians had been killed in the three battles] and not generals norac, gotovina, cermak, markac, et al.<br />
sentencing chermak, markach, and gotovina is due in april &#8217;11.</p>
<p>as for karadzich, i don&#8217;t know what he hadn&#8217;t lied about. most notable lie had been that serb aggression against bosnia had been about defence of serbs and gathering all serbs in one land.<br />
ok! it may not be called a lie. how about self-delusion? resulting in death of  innocent serbs also. plus 142k dead bosniaks and in name of uniting all holy serb lands in one area! </p>
<p>and hadn&#8217;t miloshevic lied to everybody when he made an agreement with tudjman to split asunder bosnia. price being abandonment of rsk by serb army in &#8217;04.<br />
and indeed serb army [euphemisticly called yug'v army] had left for bosnia in order to further terrorize bosniaks.</p>
<p>serbia had also been guilty in not preventing evacuation of rsk serbs. google &#8220;knin je pao u beogradu&#8221; [knin fell in belgrad {white city} by major general, milisav sekulich, who said that order by rsk leadership to evacuate civilians, was the worst thing it cld have done.<br />
naturally, the battle had also been a cause for serb mass departure from rsk. serbia did tell rsk prior to last battle '95 that it  was all over and to go for peace<br />
agreement.<br />
the only serb leader who the day before the battle opted for a peaceful solution had been babich.<br />
croatia demanded unconditional surrender. however, too many serbs had done too many wrongs against the croats [3k dead; 400k expelled] to undergo death or jailings. </p>
<p>but one of the biggest lies ever had been about a-bombings of hiroshima and nagasaki and nazi ideas about necessity of killing-expelling all &#8216;jews&#8217;, poles, romas, et al.<br />
so, neither croats nor serbs cld with straight face claim the coveted championship. </p>
<p>actually slovene, croat, serb, bosnian, macedonian, montenegrin leadership of &#8217;18 shld be commended for being the first nations [never in the yes of evil empires] to have voluntarily entered a governmental union.<br />
alas, mistakenly.  they did not know serbs or did but nevertheless not well enough.<br />
it had been serbs which deposed elected yug&#8217;v govt in &#8217;41; abrogated the peace pakt with germany by shouting &#8220;bolje rat nego pakt&#8221; [better war than peace].<br />
which suited evil empires just fine.<br />
hoever, it also suited all Left [and to this day] and Right. go figure!   tnx</p>
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		<title>By: bozh</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2010/12/2010-news-round-up-profiles-quotes-troubled-times/#comment-79016</link>
		<dc:creator>bozh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Dec 2010 16:57:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[glad to hear what &#039;aliens&#039; think about u.s. i always thought that chinese, russians, et al saw it as i do:
american god and american planet is indivisable; so, heed u heathens and u&#039;d not need! or we will get angry with u!! and u&#039;d be sorry!

at home, american god, as always before, wld continue to wage nescience and poverty.
for one cannot wage wars or servitude otherwise! tnx]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>glad to hear what &#8216;aliens&#8217; think about u.s. i always thought that chinese, russians, et al saw it as i do:<br />
american god and american planet is indivisable; so, heed u heathens and u&#8217;d not need! or we will get angry with u!! and u&#8217;d be sorry!</p>
<p>at home, american god, as always before, wld continue to wage nescience and poverty.<br />
for one cannot wage wars or servitude otherwise! tnx</p>
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		<title>By: 3bancan</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2010/12/2010-news-round-up-profiles-quotes-troubled-times/#comment-79015</link>
		<dc:creator>3bancan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Dec 2010 16:46:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Obama has nothing to lose now by sticking to his principles&quot;
Obama has been sticking/is sticking/will be sticking to his principles...
For other issues especially &quot;NATO and the US itself are living on borrowed time&quot; one should read the article
[http://www.uruknet.info/?p=m73433&amp;hd=&amp;size=1&amp;l=e]
It seems like Eric Walberg is imitating MichaelKenny...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Obama has nothing to lose now by sticking to his principles&#8221;<br />
Obama has been sticking/is sticking/will be sticking to his principles&#8230;<br />
For other issues especially &#8220;NATO and the US itself are living on borrowed time&#8221; one should read the article<br />
[http://www.uruknet.info/?p=m73433&amp;hd=&amp;size=1&amp;l=e]<br />
It seems like Eric Walberg is imitating MichaelKenny&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: MichaelKenny</title>
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		<dc:creator>MichaelKenny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Dec 2010 16:16:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[That the American dinosaur is another step down the road to collapse and is lashing out wildly in its death agonies is clear, but Wall St&#039;s plan to create an anti-euro &quot;revolt&quot; in Germany has blown up in its face! On the eve of Estonia adopting the euro, Germany is booming. Volkswagen alone has created 50 000 new jobs worldwide to meet soaring demand for its now much cheaper cars, for example! Thus, Germany is not &quot;turning on&quot; the very countries that have generated that economic boom. It&#039;s bailing them out so that the boom will continue. &quot;Worse&quot; yet, China has offered to bail out any eurozone country in need and has even offered to help Hungary. (Maybe that&#039;s why Iceland has applied to join the EU!) Thus, a vast new alliance of the EU, Russia and China seems to be shaping up. In general, the leftward trend in European politics favours &quot;fortress&quot; EU over US-dominated organisations like NATO. In Germany, the SPD and the Greens are competing for second place (20 – 25%) and even the small Left Party is doing well in the polls (+- 10%). In France, IMF president DSK seems to be the favourite to unseat Sarko in 2012 and in Britain, Labour has little choice but to move back to its social democratic roots. The EU was tested in 2010 and withstood the test. That gives hope for 2011.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That the American dinosaur is another step down the road to collapse and is lashing out wildly in its death agonies is clear, but Wall St&#8217;s plan to create an anti-euro &#8220;revolt&#8221; in Germany has blown up in its face! On the eve of Estonia adopting the euro, Germany is booming. Volkswagen alone has created 50 000 new jobs worldwide to meet soaring demand for its now much cheaper cars, for example! Thus, Germany is not &#8220;turning on&#8221; the very countries that have generated that economic boom. It&#8217;s bailing them out so that the boom will continue. &#8220;Worse&#8221; yet, China has offered to bail out any eurozone country in need and has even offered to help Hungary. (Maybe that&#8217;s why Iceland has applied to join the EU!) Thus, a vast new alliance of the EU, Russia and China seems to be shaping up. In general, the leftward trend in European politics favours &#8220;fortress&#8221; EU over US-dominated organisations like NATO. In Germany, the SPD and the Greens are competing for second place (20 – 25%) and even the small Left Party is doing well in the polls (+- 10%). In France, IMF president DSK seems to be the favourite to unseat Sarko in 2012 and in Britain, Labour has little choice but to move back to its social democratic roots. The EU was tested in 2010 and withstood the test. That gives hope for 2011.</p>
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