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		<title>By: 3bancan</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2010/10/zionist-tolerance-for-a-change/#comment-75920</link>
		<dc:creator>3bancan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Nov 2010 13:14:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;I guess that the Zionification of Britain is beginning to take a heavy toll on our cultural and public life&quot; says Gilad here:
http://www.gilad.co.uk/writings/gilad-atzmon-julie-sabbath-goy-burchill.html#entry9350231
Not only in Britain, and it started quite a few decades ago...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I guess that the Zionification of Britain is beginning to take a heavy toll on our cultural and public life&#8221; says Gilad here:<br />
<a href="http://www.gilad.co.uk/writings/gilad-atzmon-julie-sabbath-goy-burchill.html#entry9350231" rel="nofollow">http://www.gilad.co.uk/writings/gilad-atzmon-julie-sabbath-goy-burchill.html#entry9350231</a><br />
Not only in Britain, and it started quite a few decades ago&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Mulga Mumblebrain</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2010/10/zionist-tolerance-for-a-change/#comment-75918</link>
		<dc:creator>Mulga Mumblebrain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Nov 2010 13:03:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[mary, I cannot agree that the Zionazis are &#039;genetically&#039; evil. I think that the greatest element in their undeniable evil, and I do think that they are as evil as humans come (which is saying a lot)is cultural, religious and ideological. Take a baby away from one of the &#039;settler&#039; Judaic Taliban infestations, raise it to see all humans as equal and worthy of respect, acceptance and compassion, and that child will become anti-Zionist in most cases. Zionazism grows from several polluted sources, in my opinion. Religious supremacism and contempt for the non-believers to a degree unmatched by any other &#039;faith&#039;. Colonialist racism directed at non-Europeans in general (the whole &#039;Clash of Civilizations&#039; perfidy is a Zionazi project) and the detested Palestinians who refuse to evaporate in particular. And extreme hatred for non-Jews flowing from the Nazi Judeocide, a trauma that would have exacerbated the most paranoid and hate-filled tendencies in any population. Add these to Jewish money power, and the political, moral and spiritual corruption that this power has engendered in the West, and the brew becomes truly toxic. What always surprises me is the moral cowardice and complicity of the ruling elites of almost all nations when faced with the spitting, foaming, Hydra-headed beast of Zionazi bullying and intimidation.  We end up with a world where one of the most despicable regimes in history calls all the shots and politicians everywhere jettison everything-international law, common human decency and their own self-respect included-in order not to aggravate these insidious and bellicose bullying thugs.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>mary, I cannot agree that the Zionazis are &#8216;genetically&#8217; evil. I think that the greatest element in their undeniable evil, and I do think that they are as evil as humans come (which is saying a lot)is cultural, religious and ideological. Take a baby away from one of the &#8216;settler&#8217; Judaic Taliban infestations, raise it to see all humans as equal and worthy of respect, acceptance and compassion, and that child will become anti-Zionist in most cases. Zionazism grows from several polluted sources, in my opinion. Religious supremacism and contempt for the non-believers to a degree unmatched by any other &#8216;faith&#8217;. Colonialist racism directed at non-Europeans in general (the whole &#8216;Clash of Civilizations&#8217; perfidy is a Zionazi project) and the detested Palestinians who refuse to evaporate in particular. And extreme hatred for non-Jews flowing from the Nazi Judeocide, a trauma that would have exacerbated the most paranoid and hate-filled tendencies in any population. Add these to Jewish money power, and the political, moral and spiritual corruption that this power has engendered in the West, and the brew becomes truly toxic. What always surprises me is the moral cowardice and complicity of the ruling elites of almost all nations when faced with the spitting, foaming, Hydra-headed beast of Zionazi bullying and intimidation.  We end up with a world where one of the most despicable regimes in history calls all the shots and politicians everywhere jettison everything-international law, common human decency and their own self-respect included-in order not to aggravate these insidious and bellicose bullying thugs.</p>
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		<title>By: mary</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2010/10/zionist-tolerance-for-a-change/#comment-75891</link>
		<dc:creator>mary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Nov 2010 21:02:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[From the dark side of a dark planet, but NO different from the other two members of the axis.  We can reflect on the 40 years&#039; imprisonment of the young man who was incarcerated aged 15 for allegedly killing a US army &#039;medic&#039;, and sentenced by a military court.  He who has been in Gitmo for 8 years.  And consider the image of the Muslim man boiled alive in Uzbekistan that was on Craig Murray&#039;s blog the other day.  The axis has opened Pandora&#039;s box, a box filled by the Talmudists who run the whole show and who are genetically evil.  The preponderance of the psychopathic personality in these sub-humans is extraordinary. 

http://www.jpost.com/Headlines/Article.aspx?id=193241&amp;utm_source=

Jerusalem Post                                                                                  10/29/2010 


Report: Foreign Ministry prevents Geneva Convention meeting 
By JPOST.COM STAFF  

The Foreign Ministry has succeeded in preventing a meeting of states which have signed the Geneva Convention, which could have resulted in a public statement that Israel has violated the charter during Operation Cast Lead in the Gaza Strip during 2009, Army Radio report Friday.

According to the report, Israeli embassies in Switzerland, New York and various European capitals with help from Washington, were able to diplomatically prevent the meeting in Switzerland. It was expected that the meeting would conclude that Israel did not do enough to prevent Palestinian civilian casualties during the 2009 war in Gaza.

Sources close to Foreign Minister Avigdor Lieberman also succeeded in preventing the establishment of the victim&#039;s compensation fund of those injured in Cast Lead, which was decided by the UN Human Rights Council.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From the dark side of a dark planet, but NO different from the other two members of the axis.  We can reflect on the 40 years&#8217; imprisonment of the young man who was incarcerated aged 15 for allegedly killing a US army &#8216;medic&#8217;, and sentenced by a military court.  He who has been in Gitmo for 8 years.  And consider the image of the Muslim man boiled alive in Uzbekistan that was on Craig Murray&#8217;s blog the other day.  The axis has opened Pandora&#8217;s box, a box filled by the Talmudists who run the whole show and who are genetically evil.  The preponderance of the psychopathic personality in these sub-humans is extraordinary. </p>
<p><a href="http://www.jpost.com/Headlines/Article.aspx?id=193241&#038;utm_source=" rel="nofollow">http://www.jpost.com/Headlines/Article.aspx?id=193241&#038;utm_source=</a></p>
<p>Jerusalem Post                                                                                  10/29/2010 </p>
<p>Report: Foreign Ministry prevents Geneva Convention meeting<br />
By JPOST.COM STAFF  </p>
<p>The Foreign Ministry has succeeded in preventing a meeting of states which have signed the Geneva Convention, which could have resulted in a public statement that Israel has violated the charter during Operation Cast Lead in the Gaza Strip during 2009, Army Radio report Friday.</p>
<p>According to the report, Israeli embassies in Switzerland, New York and various European capitals with help from Washington, were able to diplomatically prevent the meeting in Switzerland. It was expected that the meeting would conclude that Israel did not do enough to prevent Palestinian civilian casualties during the 2009 war in Gaza.</p>
<p>Sources close to Foreign Minister Avigdor Lieberman also succeeded in preventing the establishment of the victim&#8217;s compensation fund of those injured in Cast Lead, which was decided by the UN Human Rights Council.</p>
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		<title>By: bozh</title>
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		<dc:creator>bozh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Nov 2010 13:25:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[So, the victimizers [rude, hateful, mean people] keep on blaming their victims. A husband hitting his wife wld exclaim: Look what u made me do! And i did not hurt u too bad, anyway.
Insulters on the other hand, wld say: u r too sensitive! If children r killed in afgh&#039;n, u&#039;d hear: We did not intend to kill them. We r very sorry! But killings, wife beatings, wars go on and perps still sing the same refrain: Look what u made me do! tnx]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So, the victimizers [rude, hateful, mean people] keep on blaming their victims. A husband hitting his wife wld exclaim: Look what u made me do! And i did not hurt u too bad, anyway.<br />
Insulters on the other hand, wld say: u r too sensitive! If children r killed in afgh&#8217;n, u&#8217;d hear: We did not intend to kill them. We r very sorry! But killings, wife beatings, wars go on and perps still sing the same refrain: Look what u made me do! tnx</p>
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		<title>By: mary</title>
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		<dc:creator>mary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Nov 2010 10:24:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ahmad&#039;s life is shattered just like his leg.

Killing of Palestinian kids continues in the &quot;buffer zone&quot; 

The term &quot;buffer zone&quot;, of course, being a sanitised term for illegally-controlled Palestinian land. 

http://www.maannews.net/eng/ViewDetails.aspx?ID=329481 

&quot;Ahmad Abu Hashish attended school until the 10th grade, and had been collecting scrap in the border area for about a month when he was shot. He said he earned about 30 shekels a day. 

Physicians at Kamal Edwan informed him that his bones were shattered. After spending 20 days completely immobile in his family&#039;s camp, he is to return to the hospital to see if the leg has healed enough to install a prosthesis. 

He told Ma&#039;an that once his leg heals, he&#039;ll have no choice but to return to collecting gravel: &quot;I have to go back. There’s no work.&quot; 

Asked why he thought Israelis shot him, he said, &quot;Really, I don’t know.&quot; 

While Ahmad gave his testimony, lying on a blanket on the dirt floor of the tent, the sound of gunfire and exploding tank shells could be heard, coming from the border area. 

Information gathered by aid agencies, the UN, rights groups, shows that Ahmad Abu Hashish&#039;s story is far from unique. 

According to the UN Office for the Coordination of Humanitarian Affairs, eight Palestinians, all civilians, were shot by Israelis soldiers along the border in September alone. Six of these were workers collecting construction scrap. In a separate incident in the border area, Israeli tank shells killed a 91-year-old shepherd, and two boys, aged 16 and 17. 

Bassam Masri, head of orthopedics at the Kamal Edwan hospital, told the British newspaper The Guardian earlier in October that around 50 people have been treated for gunshot wounds suffered in or near the buffer zone while collecting rubble in the past three months. 

The Israeli military has publicly declared a 300-meter no-go zone on the Gaza side of the Green Line, but a UN study released in August, based on more than 100 interviews, shows that &quot;Since late 2008, Palestinians have been totally or partially prevented from accessing land located up to 1,000-1,500 meters from the Green Line (depending on the specific area).&quot; 

These restrictions mean that 17 percent of the total land area of the already tiny Gaza Strip, and 35 percent of its agricultural land, is off-limits to Palestinian use. This in turn has contributed to a variety of humanitarian problems, further damaging the economy and directly affecting more than 113,000 people who live or work in or near the border. 

Confusion about the boundaries of the exclusion zone persists. &quot;Despite the potential for civilian casualties, the Israeli authorities have not informed the affected population about the precise boundaries of the restricted areas and the conditions under which access to these areas may be permitted or denied.” 

Regardless of the actual size of the buffer zone, rights advocates say the ongoing shootings of civilians are unacceptable.&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ahmad&#8217;s life is shattered just like his leg.</p>
<p>Killing of Palestinian kids continues in the &#8220;buffer zone&#8221; </p>
<p>The term &#8220;buffer zone&#8221;, of course, being a sanitised term for illegally-controlled Palestinian land. </p>
<p><a href="http://www.maannews.net/eng/ViewDetails.aspx?ID=329481" rel="nofollow">http://www.maannews.net/eng/ViewDetails.aspx?ID=329481</a> </p>
<p>&#8220;Ahmad Abu Hashish attended school until the 10th grade, and had been collecting scrap in the border area for about a month when he was shot. He said he earned about 30 shekels a day. </p>
<p>Physicians at Kamal Edwan informed him that his bones were shattered. After spending 20 days completely immobile in his family&#8217;s camp, he is to return to the hospital to see if the leg has healed enough to install a prosthesis. </p>
<p>He told Ma&#8217;an that once his leg heals, he&#8217;ll have no choice but to return to collecting gravel: &#8220;I have to go back. There’s no work.&#8221; </p>
<p>Asked why he thought Israelis shot him, he said, &#8220;Really, I don’t know.&#8221; </p>
<p>While Ahmad gave his testimony, lying on a blanket on the dirt floor of the tent, the sound of gunfire and exploding tank shells could be heard, coming from the border area. </p>
<p>Information gathered by aid agencies, the UN, rights groups, shows that Ahmad Abu Hashish&#8217;s story is far from unique. </p>
<p>According to the UN Office for the Coordination of Humanitarian Affairs, eight Palestinians, all civilians, were shot by Israelis soldiers along the border in September alone. Six of these were workers collecting construction scrap. In a separate incident in the border area, Israeli tank shells killed a 91-year-old shepherd, and two boys, aged 16 and 17. </p>
<p>Bassam Masri, head of orthopedics at the Kamal Edwan hospital, told the British newspaper The Guardian earlier in October that around 50 people have been treated for gunshot wounds suffered in or near the buffer zone while collecting rubble in the past three months. </p>
<p>The Israeli military has publicly declared a 300-meter no-go zone on the Gaza side of the Green Line, but a UN study released in August, based on more than 100 interviews, shows that &#8220;Since late 2008, Palestinians have been totally or partially prevented from accessing land located up to 1,000-1,500 meters from the Green Line (depending on the specific area).&#8221; </p>
<p>These restrictions mean that 17 percent of the total land area of the already tiny Gaza Strip, and 35 percent of its agricultural land, is off-limits to Palestinian use. This in turn has contributed to a variety of humanitarian problems, further damaging the economy and directly affecting more than 113,000 people who live or work in or near the border. </p>
<p>Confusion about the boundaries of the exclusion zone persists. &#8220;Despite the potential for civilian casualties, the Israeli authorities have not informed the affected population about the precise boundaries of the restricted areas and the conditions under which access to these areas may be permitted or denied.” </p>
<p>Regardless of the actual size of the buffer zone, rights advocates say the ongoing shootings of civilians are unacceptable.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: 3bancan</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2010/10/zionist-tolerance-for-a-change/#comment-75847</link>
		<dc:creator>3bancan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Oct 2010 21:27:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Wow! My comments here keep disappearing. They probably are not kosher enough - and the truth hurts. Kosherization of the internet is in steady progress.
Btw, here is another article which clearly describes how zionazification of the world is marching on:

http://www.uruknet.info/?p=m71366&amp;hd=&amp;size=1&amp;l=e

Of course this site&#039;s regular zionazis will keep on saying: &quot;Bullshit&quot;...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow! My comments here keep disappearing. They probably are not kosher enough &#8211; and the truth hurts. Kosherization of the internet is in steady progress.<br />
Btw, here is another article which clearly describes how zionazification of the world is marching on:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.uruknet.info/?p=m71366&#038;hd=&#038;size=1&#038;l=e" rel="nofollow">http://www.uruknet.info/?p=m71366&#038;hd=&#038;size=1&#038;l=e</a></p>
<p>Of course this site&#8217;s regular zionazis will keep on saying: &#8220;Bullshit&#8221;&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: mary</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2010/10/zionist-tolerance-for-a-change/#comment-75828</link>
		<dc:creator>mary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Oct 2010 17:13:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The Spanish authorities, unlike the craven British government who propose to change the law on universal jurisdiction, refuse to give Dichter immunity.  There should be NO safe havens for these war criminals.

http://www.pchrgaza.org/portal/en/index.php?option=com_content&amp;view=article&amp;id=7085:spanish-authorities-refuse-to-grant-avi-dichter-immunity-&amp;catid=36:pchrpressreleases&amp;Itemid=194]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Spanish authorities, unlike the craven British government who propose to change the law on universal jurisdiction, refuse to give Dichter immunity.  There should be NO safe havens for these war criminals.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.pchrgaza.org/portal/en/index.php?option=com_content&#038;view=article&#038;id=7085:spanish-authorities-refuse-to-grant-avi-dichter-immunity-&#038;catid=36:pchrpressreleases&#038;Itemid=194" rel="nofollow">http://www.pchrgaza.org/portal/en/index.php?option=com_content&#038;view=article&#038;id=7085:spanish-authorities-refuse-to-grant-avi-dichter-immunity-&#038;catid=36:pchrpressreleases&#038;Itemid=194</a></p>
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		<title>By: bozh</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2010/10/zionist-tolerance-for-a-change/#comment-75814</link>
		<dc:creator>bozh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Oct 2010 14:31:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Please, note, that gilad has not said to date, as far as i know, what he&#039;s for.
Nor does he postulate salient causes; other actors-factors  that created &#039;jewish&#039; thinking-behavior.
Which, as i; rather, we, proved appear  about the same as of the all others&#039; cultists.
 
We need to chew on this postulate or even affirmation that 30 mn americans think egzactly the same as a few mn jews. tnx]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Please, note, that gilad has not said to date, as far as i know, what he&#8217;s for.<br />
Nor does he postulate salient causes; other actors-factors  that created &#8216;jewish&#8217; thinking-behavior.<br />
Which, as i; rather, we, proved appear  about the same as of the all others&#8217; cultists.</p>
<p>We need to chew on this postulate or even affirmation that 30 mn americans think egzactly the same as a few mn jews. tnx</p>
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		<title>By: Dr. Ashraf Ezzat</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2010/10/zionist-tolerance-for-a-change/#comment-75812</link>
		<dc:creator>Dr. Ashraf Ezzat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Oct 2010 14:15:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It is not hard to relate to the honesty, sincerity and openness of the author`s discourse on the identity problem of the Israelis.
I can`t remember when i last read such an enjoyable article.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is not hard to relate to the honesty, sincerity and openness of the author`s discourse on the identity problem of the Israelis.<br />
I can`t remember when i last read such an enjoyable article.</p>
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		<title>By: gil</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2010/10/zionist-tolerance-for-a-change/#comment-75794</link>
		<dc:creator>gil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Oct 2010 23:29:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Just to thank you all for your attention and enlightening discussion.  

I had to raise these issues. I believe that this is my duty... 

Peace Gilad]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just to thank you all for your attention and enlightening discussion.  </p>
<p>I had to raise these issues. I believe that this is my duty&#8230; </p>
<p>Peace Gilad</p>
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		<title>By: gil</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2010/10/zionist-tolerance-for-a-change/#comment-75793</link>
		<dc:creator>gil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Oct 2010 23:25:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Dave 

I hardly comment on Blogs... but thought that a clarification is important.

If you want to engage in a dialogue with me you will have to  do your homework.

A. Can you suggest to me and the rest  where and when exactly did I “criticize”  the Pro-Palestinian Solidarity Movement?  I don’t remember coming on record with such a statement!
B. I do not equate Zionism and Jewish Left… I basically prove beyond doubt that a Zionist paper is far more tolerant than my Jewish &#039;leftist&#039; detractors. If you want more evidence I am happy to provide it. 
C. If you are familiar with 90% of my articles, you should know that I differentiate between “Jewish Left” (a tribal exclusive affair) and Leftists who happen to be  Jewish by origin (totally innocent category). You have to ask yourself whether you are a Jewish Leftists or a Leftist who happen to be a Jew.  
I have no problem with the 2nd category!!
Also your comrade, are they of the former or the later category? 
D. If you are a Leninist as you suggest, you should also be familiar with Lenin criticism of the Bund (1903). I accept Lenin’s criticism, what about you? If you don’t accept it, what makes you into a Leninist? 

All the best 
Gilad]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dave </p>
<p>I hardly comment on Blogs&#8230; but thought that a clarification is important.</p>
<p>If you want to engage in a dialogue with me you will have to  do your homework.</p>
<p>A. Can you suggest to me and the rest  where and when exactly did I “criticize”  the Pro-Palestinian Solidarity Movement?  I don’t remember coming on record with such a statement!<br />
B. I do not equate Zionism and Jewish Left… I basically prove beyond doubt that a Zionist paper is far more tolerant than my Jewish &#8216;leftist&#8217; detractors. If you want more evidence I am happy to provide it.<br />
C. If you are familiar with 90% of my articles, you should know that I differentiate between “Jewish Left” (a tribal exclusive affair) and Leftists who happen to be  Jewish by origin (totally innocent category). You have to ask yourself whether you are a Jewish Leftists or a Leftist who happen to be a Jew.<br />
I have no problem with the 2nd category!!<br />
Also your comrade, are they of the former or the later category?<br />
D. If you are a Leninist as you suggest, you should also be familiar with Lenin criticism of the Bund (1903). I accept Lenin’s criticism, what about you? If you don’t accept it, what makes you into a Leninist? </p>
<p>All the best<br />
Gilad</p>
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		<title>By: Rehmat</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rehmat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Oct 2010 22:09:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[David Silver - Gilad atzmon on the side of Jews, who are not hypocrite, racists or living in self-denial. The others such Jews I know are Roger Tucker, Israel Shamir, Simon Jones and Mary Rizzo.

http://rehmat1.wordpress.com/2010/02/25/gilad-atzmon-proud-to-be-a-self-hating-jew/]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David Silver &#8211; Gilad atzmon on the side of Jews, who are not hypocrite, racists or living in self-denial. The others such Jews I know are Roger Tucker, Israel Shamir, Simon Jones and Mary Rizzo.</p>
<p><a href="http://rehmat1.wordpress.com/2010/02/25/gilad-atzmon-proud-to-be-a-self-hating-jew/" rel="nofollow">http://rehmat1.wordpress.com/2010/02/25/gilad-atzmon-proud-to-be-a-self-hating-jew/</a></p>
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		<title>By: shabnam</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2010/10/zionist-tolerance-for-a-change/#comment-75785</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Oct 2010 20:08:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[{To a certain extent then, it is clear that Jewish anti Zionism, is, in itself, still just another  form of Zionism}

Thank you Mr. Atzmon to say that.

Iranian socialists in 1950s and 1960s were strong supporters of Israel against ‘backward Arabs’ which may still be with few Iranian ‘lefties’ not all.  The reason behind this, beside the Iranians prejudice against Arab due to the invasion of Persia by Arabs where let the demise of Sassanid in 7th century, is that Iranian socialists were fed misleading  information by the socialists in the West especially the socialists in France.  These Iranian socialists became anti Stalinists, viewed the Stalinist Tudeh Party  put the interest of Soviet Union ahead of Iran’s interest, therefore, they  turned  to European socialists, mainly,  French left dominated by Jean Paul Sartre.

Jalal Al-e-Ahmad, a socialist during 1950s and 60s was in contact with the Socialists in France including the Iranian socialists who supported Israel against Arabs and they were interested in kibbutz where they translated many articles on Kibbutz into Persian and printed them in their journal. 
They believed that since the Zionist movement was shaped in the West then it should be ‘progressive’. The Iranian socialists’ views on Israel and Zionism were shaped by French socialists, majority of whom were Jewish. 
The Iranian socialists translated articles on Kibbutz and painted Israel in a good light, because the socialists in the West were giving misleading information about Israel and Zionism to hold world public opinion against Palestinians in support of Israel.

Jalal Al-e-Ahmad (December 2, 1923 – September 9, 1969) was a prominent Iranian writer, thinker, and social and political critic. Al-e-Ahmad joined the Tudeh Party, pro Stalin, along with his mentor Khalil Maleki shortly after World War II. Following the 1953 Iranian coup d’état Al-e-Ahmad was imprisoned for several years and “so completely lost faith in party politics.
Jalal was invited to Israel in 1963 by the Israeli government where he accepted.  This journey, where he wrote a critical essay about realities of Israel as a racist and apartheid in 1964 named:  “Safar be Velayat-e Esrael”  (A journey to land of Angel of death) سفر به ولایت عزرائیل .    From then on he turned against Israel and called Israel a racist state and an extension of the US imperialism in the region; he became supporter of the Palestine struggle against Israel. Then, he asked the Iranian socialists in France to stop writing  and printing articles about Kibbutz. Many Iranian opposition groups hate Al e Ahmad because he exposed opportunist intellectuals who said nothing against Israel, but they were ready to condemn Palestinians as ‘backward’ Arabs.

The following is a rough translation of a letter ( 2/3 of it) written by one of Jalal Al Ahmed’s friends who was in France when the socialists held meetings  to raise  money in support of Israel against Palestinians and ‘backward Arabs’.    This letter  was written in 1968, after 1967 war,  to  Al e-Ahmad by one of his friend in France  shows  that the ‘left’, many of whom were JEWISH, supported ISRAEL AND ZIONISM. 

***The letter reads:*** 

... From Jean Paul Sartre to Eugène Ionesco who reached the obscenity to claim: “Although stateless Palestinian, for the past 20 years are in the refugee camps receiving food, half of what is necessary for a person to live, from the United Nations; yet they want to perform a task that Hitler did not do”, it means the Palestinians want the European and American Jews who are representative of the ‘Western civilization’ to be massacred in the Arab countries. 
Another melancholy, Lanzmann, who is close to Jean Paul Sartre, became so mad with the imaginary Arab brutality that he said whatever came to his tongue against the Palestinians.
The Left federation and Mr. Mendès France, however, do require a special place. But Daniel Meyer was more aggressive and obscene than others. The head of the Human rights convention, Daniel Meyer according to his historic mission said: “I hate being a Socialist, I hate being a human, but I confess that I am a JEW.” (Good for you!!!)
The circus, like this, was let by these literary and political rouge individuals for the whole WEEK. I wish you were here to see Jalal. But when these individuals’ mouth foamed due to too many speeches, then the real personalities who controlled this circus entered the scene.
The political environment was ready. The entire French left (minus the communists who didn’t know what they were doing) emotionally was prepared to be taken as HOSTAGE. The bourgeois organizations and other reorganization that practices usury, were flirting with the lefties intellectuals. They started to collect signature for donation to collect money... 

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>{To a certain extent then, it is clear that Jewish anti Zionism, is, in itself, still just another  form of Zionism}</p>
<p>Thank you Mr. Atzmon to say that.</p>
<p>Iranian socialists in 1950s and 1960s were strong supporters of Israel against ‘backward Arabs’ which may still be with few Iranian ‘lefties’ not all.  The reason behind this, beside the Iranians prejudice against Arab due to the invasion of Persia by Arabs where let the demise of Sassanid in 7th century, is that Iranian socialists were fed misleading  information by the socialists in the West especially the socialists in France.  These Iranian socialists became anti Stalinists, viewed the Stalinist Tudeh Party  put the interest of Soviet Union ahead of Iran’s interest, therefore, they  turned  to European socialists, mainly,  French left dominated by Jean Paul Sartre.</p>
<p>Jalal Al-e-Ahmad, a socialist during 1950s and 60s was in contact with the Socialists in France including the Iranian socialists who supported Israel against Arabs and they were interested in kibbutz where they translated many articles on Kibbutz into Persian and printed them in their journal.<br />
They believed that since the Zionist movement was shaped in the West then it should be ‘progressive’. The Iranian socialists’ views on Israel and Zionism were shaped by French socialists, majority of whom were Jewish.<br />
The Iranian socialists translated articles on Kibbutz and painted Israel in a good light, because the socialists in the West were giving misleading information about Israel and Zionism to hold world public opinion against Palestinians in support of Israel.</p>
<p>Jalal Al-e-Ahmad (December 2, 1923 – September 9, 1969) was a prominent Iranian writer, thinker, and social and political critic. Al-e-Ahmad joined the Tudeh Party, pro Stalin, along with his mentor Khalil Maleki shortly after World War II. Following the 1953 Iranian coup d’état Al-e-Ahmad was imprisoned for several years and “so completely lost faith in party politics.<br />
Jalal was invited to Israel in 1963 by the Israeli government where he accepted.  This journey, where he wrote a critical essay about realities of Israel as a racist and apartheid in 1964 named:  “Safar be Velayat-e Esrael”  (A journey to land of Angel of death) سفر به ولایت عزرائیل .    From then on he turned against Israel and called Israel a racist state and an extension of the US imperialism in the region; he became supporter of the Palestine struggle against Israel. Then, he asked the Iranian socialists in France to stop writing  and printing articles about Kibbutz. Many Iranian opposition groups hate Al e Ahmad because he exposed opportunist intellectuals who said nothing against Israel, but they were ready to condemn Palestinians as ‘backward’ Arabs.</p>
<p>The following is a rough translation of a letter ( 2/3 of it) written by one of Jalal Al Ahmed’s friends who was in France when the socialists held meetings  to raise  money in support of Israel against Palestinians and ‘backward Arabs’.    This letter  was written in 1968, after 1967 war,  to  Al e-Ahmad by one of his friend in France  shows  that the ‘left’, many of whom were JEWISH, supported ISRAEL AND ZIONISM. </p>
<p>***The letter reads:*** </p>
<p>&#8230; From Jean Paul Sartre to Eugène Ionesco who reached the obscenity to claim: “Although stateless Palestinian, for the past 20 years are in the refugee camps receiving food, half of what is necessary for a person to live, from the United Nations; yet they want to perform a task that Hitler did not do”, it means the Palestinians want the European and American Jews who are representative of the ‘Western civilization’ to be massacred in the Arab countries.<br />
Another melancholy, Lanzmann, who is close to Jean Paul Sartre, became so mad with the imaginary Arab brutality that he said whatever came to his tongue against the Palestinians.<br />
The Left federation and Mr. Mendès France, however, do require a special place. But Daniel Meyer was more aggressive and obscene than others. The head of the Human rights convention, Daniel Meyer according to his historic mission said: “I hate being a Socialist, I hate being a human, but I confess that I am a JEW.” (Good for you!!!)<br />
The circus, like this, was let by these literary and political rouge individuals for the whole WEEK. I wish you were here to see Jalal. But when these individuals’ mouth foamed due to too many speeches, then the real personalities who controlled this circus entered the scene.<br />
The political environment was ready. The entire French left (minus the communists who didn’t know what they were doing) emotionally was prepared to be taken as HOSTAGE. The bourgeois organizations and other reorganization that practices usury, were flirting with the lefties intellectuals. They started to collect signature for donation to collect money&#8230; </p>
<p><a href="http://www.navaeian.blogfa.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.navaeian.blogfa.com/</a></p>
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		<title>By: hayate</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2010/10/zionist-tolerance-for-a-change/#comment-75782</link>
		<dc:creator>hayate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Oct 2010 19:25:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Interesting piece. Atzmon&#039;s experiences with the &quot;Kosher Left&quot; (great descriptive phrase, btw) match what I&#039;ve seen over the years. The whole process he describes I can identify with. I even had one of these people comment &quot;I thought you we one of us&quot; after it became clear I strongly opposed zionism (btw, I later found out that individual was a duplicitous zionist data miner, who &quot;befriended&quot; people to gather info. For several years he frequented 9/11 discussions all over the web, pretending to promote the &quot;inside job&quot; theories and befriending people in order to gather info on people doubting the official line on that attack. He apparently hacked several people&#039;s computers, as well). These people are far more hostile to any on the left who&#039;s views differ than they are to those on the right. Look at any predominantly Jewish (and Jewish run) website. There are always several obvious hasbarats spouting just about every repugnant view imaginable. These hasbarats are ridiculed, but they and their repugnant views are tolerated to a large extent. But if a leftist shows up and starts criticizing zionism, especially a non-Jewish one, the site&#039;s local &quot;kosher nostra&quot; herd will gangbang that individual and demand they be removed from the site, something which usually happens quickly after wards. The &quot;leftism&quot; of these kosher anti-zionists, as is their anti-zionism, is phony as hell.

One of the odd things I discovered about these &quot;zionist anti-zionists&quot; is that many I encountered were not from a Jewish background, yet were just as defensive when it came to criticism of zionism when such was from someone outside &quot;the group&quot; and not vetted as &quot;loyal opposition&quot;.

Another thing interesting about this piece is Atzmon&#039;s recent experiences dealing with israeli media. The openness of that media in comparison to the zionist controlled media outside israel is something many have talked about over the years. The reason zionists can allow this in israel, but not outside israel is that they know israelis are a loyal lot. They may differ, even fundamentally differ, but their ultimate loyalty to zionism remains strong. A little dissidence helps the zionists reinforce that loyalty by working to strengthen the counter arguments and also show that people are free to differ.

But outside israel, people cant be trusted to remain loyal and most are loyal zionists only because of incessant manipulation. They cant allow any views that might undo that manipulation or challenge it, since the effects of it are not very deep and it would not take much exposure of zionist criminality and bigotry to kill those zionist manipulations outside israel. So real anti-zionist views are simply not allowed.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting piece. Atzmon&#8217;s experiences with the &#8220;Kosher Left&#8221; (great descriptive phrase, btw) match what I&#8217;ve seen over the years. The whole process he describes I can identify with. I even had one of these people comment &#8220;I thought you we one of us&#8221; after it became clear I strongly opposed zionism (btw, I later found out that individual was a duplicitous zionist data miner, who &#8220;befriended&#8221; people to gather info. For several years he frequented 9/11 discussions all over the web, pretending to promote the &#8220;inside job&#8221; theories and befriending people in order to gather info on people doubting the official line on that attack. He apparently hacked several people&#8217;s computers, as well). These people are far more hostile to any on the left who&#8217;s views differ than they are to those on the right. Look at any predominantly Jewish (and Jewish run) website. There are always several obvious hasbarats spouting just about every repugnant view imaginable. These hasbarats are ridiculed, but they and their repugnant views are tolerated to a large extent. But if a leftist shows up and starts criticizing zionism, especially a non-Jewish one, the site&#8217;s local &#8220;kosher nostra&#8221; herd will gangbang that individual and demand they be removed from the site, something which usually happens quickly after wards. The &#8220;leftism&#8221; of these kosher anti-zionists, as is their anti-zionism, is phony as hell.</p>
<p>One of the odd things I discovered about these &#8220;zionist anti-zionists&#8221; is that many I encountered were not from a Jewish background, yet were just as defensive when it came to criticism of zionism when such was from someone outside &#8220;the group&#8221; and not vetted as &#8220;loyal opposition&#8221;.</p>
<p>Another thing interesting about this piece is Atzmon&#8217;s recent experiences dealing with israeli media. The openness of that media in comparison to the zionist controlled media outside israel is something many have talked about over the years. The reason zionists can allow this in israel, but not outside israel is that they know israelis are a loyal lot. They may differ, even fundamentally differ, but their ultimate loyalty to zionism remains strong. A little dissidence helps the zionists reinforce that loyalty by working to strengthen the counter arguments and also show that people are free to differ.</p>
<p>But outside israel, people cant be trusted to remain loyal and most are loyal zionists only because of incessant manipulation. They cant allow any views that might undo that manipulation or challenge it, since the effects of it are not very deep and it would not take much exposure of zionist criminality and bigotry to kill those zionist manipulations outside israel. So real anti-zionist views are simply not allowed.</p>
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		<title>By: kalidas</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2010/10/zionist-tolerance-for-a-change/#comment-75779</link>
		<dc:creator>kalidas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Oct 2010 18:50:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I also knew they were and are, with exceptions so rare as to be almost nonexistent, incapable of not dotting all those i&#039;s and crossing all those t&#039;s for the rest of &#039;us.&#039;
Ad infinitum. 

Otherwise this disturbed and disturbing identity is incomplete. One ends up like Gilad Atzmon; a human being, period. 

Can&#039;t have that now, can we?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I also knew they were and are, with exceptions so rare as to be almost nonexistent, incapable of not dotting all those i&#8217;s and crossing all those t&#8217;s for the rest of &#8216;us.&#8217;<br />
Ad infinitum. </p>
<p>Otherwise this disturbed and disturbing identity is incomplete. One ends up like Gilad Atzmon; a human being, period. </p>
<p>Can&#8217;t have that now, can we?</p>
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		<title>By: MylesH</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2010/10/zionist-tolerance-for-a-change/#comment-75776</link>
		<dc:creator>MylesH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Oct 2010 18:15:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I too enjoy your articles but am not in complete agreement with the belief that just being Jewish and of the left one is automatically a Zionist. I am proud of my Jewish culture; at least most of it. I hate Seinfeld but love Krusty the Clown. Its sense of justice to me is what I feel most aligned with, and perhaps why I am a leftist. I am not a Zionist. I have no religious affiliation. Why paint me and so many others (although I wish more) with such a wide brush? Isn&#039;t that an element of bigotry?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I too enjoy your articles but am not in complete agreement with the belief that just being Jewish and of the left one is automatically a Zionist. I am proud of my Jewish culture; at least most of it. I hate Seinfeld but love Krusty the Clown. Its sense of justice to me is what I feel most aligned with, and perhaps why I am a leftist. I am not a Zionist. I have no religious affiliation. Why paint me and so many others (although I wish more) with such a wide brush? Isn&#8217;t that an element of bigotry?</p>
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		<title>By: David Silver</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2010/10/zionist-tolerance-for-a-change/#comment-75775</link>
		<dc:creator>David Silver</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Oct 2010 17:59:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Gilad 
I usually enjoy and agree with 90% of your articles on DV. However here you are dead wrong equating Israel ad Zionism and the &quot;Jewish Left&quot;
you also were extremely critical of the Pro-Palestinian Solidarity 
Movement which has anb ulterior motive worthy of AIPAC or the FBI
Yes I&#039;m a Leninist and I have the label of a Jewish person and none of the comrades I support or work with fits your description. 
Which side are you on brother?
Dave]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gilad<br />
I usually enjoy and agree with 90% of your articles on DV. However here you are dead wrong equating Israel ad Zionism and the &#8220;Jewish Left&#8221;<br />
you also were extremely critical of the Pro-Palestinian Solidarity<br />
Movement which has anb ulterior motive worthy of AIPAC or the FBI<br />
Yes I&#8217;m a Leninist and I have the label of a Jewish person and none of the comrades I support or work with fits your description.<br />
Which side are you on brother?<br />
Dave</p>
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		<title>By: Rehmat</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2010/10/zionist-tolerance-for-a-change/#comment-75765</link>
		<dc:creator>Rehmat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Oct 2010 17:06:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Jewish religious scriptures don&#039;t teach tolerance - they call for vengeance.

In 1236, a Jew convert to Christianity, Nicholas Donin, submitted to Pope Gregory IX listing 35 charhes against the Judaism’s most holy book Talmud. The list included the insults to Jesus, his mother Mary, Christianity, spitting on the Cross and priests, the Blood Libel, hatred toward Gentiles and even animals and many foolish and revolting tales. After investigations – The Pope issued a ‘Papal Bull (Holy Directive)’ that all copies of this hateful book be confiscated and burnt in public. The Bull was also sent to the kings of England, Spain, France and Portugal for necessary action as “We are convinced this is the direction God wants us to go,” as Pastor Wayne Sapp has claimed recently why he wants to burn the copes of Holy Qur’an on September 11, 2010.

http://rehmat1.wordpress.com/2010/09/11/the-holy-vengeance/]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jewish religious scriptures don&#8217;t teach tolerance &#8211; they call for vengeance.</p>
<p>In 1236, a Jew convert to Christianity, Nicholas Donin, submitted to Pope Gregory IX listing 35 charhes against the Judaism’s most holy book Talmud. The list included the insults to Jesus, his mother Mary, Christianity, spitting on the Cross and priests, the Blood Libel, hatred toward Gentiles and even animals and many foolish and revolting tales. After investigations – The Pope issued a ‘Papal Bull (Holy Directive)’ that all copies of this hateful book be confiscated and burnt in public. The Bull was also sent to the kings of England, Spain, France and Portugal for necessary action as “We are convinced this is the direction God wants us to go,” as Pastor Wayne Sapp has claimed recently why he wants to burn the copes of Holy Qur’an on September 11, 2010.</p>
<p><a href="http://rehmat1.wordpress.com/2010/09/11/the-holy-vengeance/" rel="nofollow">http://rehmat1.wordpress.com/2010/09/11/the-holy-vengeance/</a></p>
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		<title>By: bozh</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2010/10/zionist-tolerance-for-a-change/#comment-75755</link>
		<dc:creator>bozh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Oct 2010 15:48:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Of course, gilad depicts accurately what almost all &#039;jews&#039; do-think.
Calling them tribal appears inadequate and inaccurate; by now imbued with false to fact notions by our less knowledgable ancestors.
Being or behaving like a tribe; in which everybody was needed, equally valued had been a noble event.

It appears better to call ALL  &#039;JEWS &#039; &quot;cultists&quot; and compare them with all other cultists.
And we wld discover that in some salient thinking-behaving they behave-think alike or egzactly the same.
None of these cultists know god; they all just guess them. All cults r structured like an army. All r full of hatred. All disseminate lies; r prowar, etcetc.
Islam, christianity, and mosheism comprise of many ethnoses; thus, none appear tribal nor behaving as tribal.

Slav word for  &quot;tribe&quot; is  &quot;Pleme&quot;; derives from word  &quot;plemenit&quot;: meaning noble, kind, honest.
I have forgotten some of my german, but do propose that the words &quot;folk&quot;,  &quot;volk&quot; or  &quot;voelken&quot; send positive message.

But even in this piece, gilad omits causative factors for events he talks about! We need to know how-why-when-where cultists became prowar, prowaging poverty-ignorance-hatred-etc.
We even need to learn how nice-honest-noble voelken became what thy became.

In this piece gilad does not say he intends to accept islam. tnx]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Of course, gilad depicts accurately what almost all &#8216;jews&#8217; do-think.<br />
Calling them tribal appears inadequate and inaccurate; by now imbued with false to fact notions by our less knowledgable ancestors.<br />
Being or behaving like a tribe; in which everybody was needed, equally valued had been a noble event.</p>
<p>It appears better to call ALL  &#8216;JEWS &#8216; &#8220;cultists&#8221; and compare them with all other cultists.<br />
And we wld discover that in some salient thinking-behaving they behave-think alike or egzactly the same.<br />
None of these cultists know god; they all just guess them. All cults r structured like an army. All r full of hatred. All disseminate lies; r prowar, etcetc.<br />
Islam, christianity, and mosheism comprise of many ethnoses; thus, none appear tribal nor behaving as tribal.</p>
<p>Slav word for  &#8220;tribe&#8221; is  &#8220;Pleme&#8221;; derives from word  &#8220;plemenit&#8221;: meaning noble, kind, honest.<br />
I have forgotten some of my german, but do propose that the words &#8220;folk&#8221;,  &#8220;volk&#8221; or  &#8220;voelken&#8221; send positive message.</p>
<p>But even in this piece, gilad omits causative factors for events he talks about! We need to know how-why-when-where cultists became prowar, prowaging poverty-ignorance-hatred-etc.<br />
We even need to learn how nice-honest-noble voelken became what thy became.</p>
<p>In this piece gilad does not say he intends to accept islam. tnx</p>
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		<title>By: kalidas</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2010/10/zionist-tolerance-for-a-change/#comment-75749</link>
		<dc:creator>kalidas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Oct 2010 15:04:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I knew that.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I knew that.</p>
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