Comments on: Economics: Doing Business as if People Mattered

By: siamdave

siamdave — Fri, 08 Oct 2010 08:42:03 +0000

- the biggest cooperative of all, so far – Green Island http://www.rudemacedon.ca/greenisland.html .

By: hayate

hayate — Fri, 08 Oct 2010 01:49:57 +0000

Deadbeat

“Don’t you think that its time to stop working for money and start working for the betterment of society.”

Yup

By: Deadbeat

Deadbeat — Thu, 07 Oct 2010 19:11:11 +0000

The problem with Jensen’s suggestion is that he refuses to get to the heart of the problem — Capitalism. What he says is that the economy is dominated by “corporations”. What are corporation if not a more efficient form of organizing capitalist economic activity. If there were no “corporaton” it would just be a big capitalist. No difference.

Now Jensen offers up a “kinder and gentler” Capitalist arrangement — “Cooperatives”. Cooperatives unfortunately will suffer the same problems as any corporation — the profit motive. Who’s going to decide whose going to get fired when the cooperative sees their profits decline? Jensen doesn’t say.

Workers may agree to take cuts but the worker’s debtors won’t. The problem here is that Jensen is using a nice sounding axiom but hasn’t thought through all the implications. That is why his suggestions are yet just another Liberal bromide to the Capitalist system rather than a radical transformation which is what is needed.

What is needed is a system that places human needs ABOVE the commodity fetish. Don’t you think that its time to stop working for money and start working for the betterment of society.

By: bozh

bozh — Thu, 07 Oct 2010 16:24:40 +0000

The first ‘state’, the citystate of, say Ur, Eridu had been founded on ownership of land, water, and people.
And every uncivilized people [some blacks and 'indians' were highly civilized] emulated such behavior.
This is more evident in kurdistan, india, pak’n, US than in many other countries.

So utter emancipation of, say, 80% of americans is a must; we are not going anywhere without it.
No, patching, [de, re]forming, [de]regulating [mal, re ] educating, supervising, checkandbalancing, or chequeandbalancing wld change that!

Btw. Socalled the Clash of Civilizations amounted to one of the great snake oils sales. People really believed and believe now that US is civilized society.
This observation is valid also for the fictive “End of History”.
It really meant and means now that fascists can be freer than ever before to continue owning people and to even increase it.
Which, of course, [to me] represents the greatest evil ever perpetrated against humans, nature, and animals.

I know that to most commenters and writers, it’s zionism, lack of backbones of some people, capitalism, taxation, some ‘jews’, etc., that are the actual causes for our and planet’s miseries and not in fact mere symptoms.

One can make good money treating symptoms. Is any wonder that all MSM columnists do just that only. And not all symptoms, but the most trivial ones!
Do we have to? tnx