What’s the Difference between President Ahmadinejad and Rabbi Yosef?

Short answer. Iran’s President Ahmadinejad did NOT call for Israeli Jews to be annihilated. Rabbi Ovadia Yosef, the spiritual leader of Israel’s Shas party, HAS called, more than once, for the Palestinians (and, in fact, all Arabs) to be exterminated.

As reported by the mainstream Western media, Ahmadinejad called for Israel to be “wiped off the map”. What that meant, it was asserted, was the destruction, the driving into the sea, of Israel’s Jews.

What Ahmadinejad actually called for was the de-Zionization of Palestine. His actual words were to the effect that he wanted the Zionist state to disappear as the Soviet Union had done. In other words, there would be a place in a de-Zionized Palestine for all Jews who wanted to stay and live in peace with their fellow Arab citizens.

As has been widely and accurately reported, Rabbi Yosef called on 27 August for the Palestinian Authority, its President Mahmoud Abbas and “all these evil people” (the occupied and oppressed Palestinians) to “perish from this world.” How was this to happen? “God should strike them with a plague.”

And what if God doesn’t act in the way Rabbi Yosef wishes?

He gave his own answer to that in 2001 when his subject was the Arabs. He said: “It is forbidden to be merciful to them. You (the Israeli government and the IDF) must send missiles to them and annihilate them. They are evil and damnable.”

But let us give credit where credit is due. Rabbi Yosef, unlike most others in Israel’s political, military and spiritual leadership, is being honest. I mean only that he dares to say in public what he really thinks.

Alan Hart has been engaged with events in the Middle East and globally as a researcher, author, and a correspondent for ITN and the BBC. Read other articles by Alan, or visit Alan's website.

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  1. bozh said on September 1st, 2010 at 10:37am #

    Actually, as an egalitarian; i.e., against unequal pay for equal needs, i am very happy that those who are for unequal pay are fighting one another.
    I do not know enough about hamas to welcome `jewish` and christian attack on them.
    If fascists want to run down other fascists, that`s ok with me. So let them run dwn amirs, aghas, beks, lords, ceos, large shareholders, barons, counts, boyars, et al whereever they are.
    Jus don`t run dwn some cubans, koreans, vietnamese, chinese who are or seem to be establishing the OLD ORDER, the one prepriestly or prepriestly-`noble` brutal rule. tnx

  2. Ismail Zayid said on September 1st, 2010 at 4:09pm #

    As Alan Hart accurately states, the comparison betwen Ahmadinejad and this racist rabbi, who is calling for a complete genocide of Palestinians and Arabs, is baseless. Ahmadinejad spoke only of eliminatinig Zionism from the land of Palestine and not killing the Jews.

  3. 3bancan said on September 1st, 2010 at 5:45pm #

    bozh said on September 1st, 2010 at 10:37am:
    “Actually, as an egalitarian; i.e., against unequal pay for equal needs, i am very happy that those who are for

    unequal pay are fighting one another.”

    In other words, Bozh was/is/will be “very happy”
    1. that the US and the UK “for-unequal-pay-for-equal-needs” massmurderers invaded and destroyed Iraq and

    murdered some 1.5 million “for-unequal-pay-for-equal-needs” Iraqis,
    2. that the US and NATO “for-unequal-pay-for-equal-needs” massmurderers are massmurdering the “for-

    unequal-pay-for-equal-needs” Afghan (and Pakistani) population,
    3. that the “for-unequal-pay-for-equal-needs” zionazi massmurderers wreaked destruction and murder on the

    “for-unequal-pay-for-equal-needs” Lebanese population,
    4. that the “for-unequal-pay-for-equal-needs” zionazi massmurderers have been wreaking destruction and murder

    on the “for-unequal-pay-for-equal-needs” Gaza population,
    5. if/when the “for-unequal-pay-for-equal-needs” zionazi massmurderers wreak destruction and murder on Iran’s

    “for-unequal-pay-for-equal-needs” population.
    Bozh’s “happiness” is intensified by the fact that Iraq, Iran, Afghanistan (and Pakistan), Lebanon and Gaza are – in

    Bozh’s own words – “evil empires” inhabited by those evil “cultists”…
    PS: ‘Bozh’ comes probably from ‘Bozhidar”, which means “a god’s gift” and is a translation of the Greek name

    Θεοδωρος (=Theodore). Maybe his love for the Greek language comes from his name or from some Greek god…

  4. Mulga Mumblebrain said on September 3rd, 2010 at 10:01am #

    Yosef is but one of scores of openly genocidal Judaic ‘religious’ leaders, whose evil utterances, they make plain, are rooted in the ‘holy’ texts of the Torah and Talmud and their exegeses. Yet these ravings,like the Yesha Council of Rabbis and Torah Sages’ assertions that,under Judaic law,killing civilians including children was not just permissible but a religious obligation,are kept from the Western public.Instead every extreme utterance of any Palestinian,and Arab or any Moslem, that can caste those groups in a murky light,is played up for all it is worth.Even,of course, this being Zionists after all, to the extent of deliberate disinformation and cynical misrepresentation. If you want proof positive of the viciousness of the Western media, their complicity in suppressing the truth about Zionism and the religious fascists who dominate Israeli politics and society, is a good place to start.

  5. David Silver said on September 3rd, 2010 at 11:53am #

    Alan is correct about Amadinejad and the Rabbi. But the Iranian leader
    saying “like the Soviet Union ” equating the Zionist state to the USSR
    was extremely reactionary and anti-communist

  6. teafoe2 said on September 3rd, 2010 at 12:50pm #

    David Silver, I agree.

  7. teafoe2 said on September 3rd, 2010 at 1:00pm #

    Mulga, the facts you cite may provide Patrick with an explanation of why I urge people to check out this Joachim Martillo. Yes, Martillo is in many respects a rightwinger, a red-baiting Cold Warrior, and something of a homophobe. But he provides a wealth of information about the Torah, Talmud and the traditional interpretations, the process of teaching this stuff to succeeding generations etc etc.

    If I knew of a Marxist source for this stuff I’d use it instead, but I don’t know of any. Or even an Islamic source. Of course I often have a lot of problems with Islamic intolerance of other pts of view…

    I support everybody’s right to believe in whatever superstitious creed appeals to them, and to exalt whatever charlatan they choose, as long as they don’t try to impose their gullibility on everybody else:)

  8. shabnam said on September 3rd, 2010 at 1:58pm #

    David Silver:

    Ahmadinejad or Khamenei did not equate the Soviet Union with Zionism. No one does. You are cleverly trying to manipulate Ahmadinejad’s words to serve your own political agenda.
    Ahmadinejad wants good relations with Russia. Admadinejad has good relations with Cuba, Venezuela, Brazil, Bolivia, Nicaragua, and their leaders. Iran had good relations with the Soviet Union. Then, why should he equate Soviet Union with Zionism? He wanted to describe what he meant when he said:

    {The Zionist regime occupying Jerusalem must disappear from the page of time.}
    The reason he referred to the Soviet Union, was that the Soviet Union fell apart a few years earlier in 1991, when he said his comment in 2005 at a conference on “Zionism”, to show that the Soviet Union was disappeared from the page of time without the destruction of either Russia or her people.

  9. teafoe2 said on September 3rd, 2010 at 3:03pm #

    I stand corrected. If Silver’s quote had been genuine, then I would have agreed. But it seems Silver for whatever reason misquoted “the Iranian leader”. And I bought it, my bad:(

  10. bozh said on September 3rd, 2010 at 3:03pm #

    3ban,
    I realized that i made a mistake when used the word “happy” for how i feel that asocialists are fighting one another and i meant to add rather than fighting vietnamese and other socialists..

    Asocialism in palestina, iraq, afgh’n, is the root cause for weakness of these lands and their defeat by other asocialist lands like US, UK.
    Nevertheless, US had no legal or moral right to attack afgh’n or iraq. But that’s of nature of asocialism: extreme fighting, cruelty.
    The cure against it is for pashtuns and iraqis to form an egalitarian society. Once each pashtun respects and cares for each pashtun, a vastly different occupation and warfare would take place.
    But the greatest criminal minds such as amirs, kings, aghas, beks, war- and people-masters in afgh’n and iraq would never allow that.
    So, what are these criminals fighting for? Their way of life!
    Did u know that as recently as late 70s, a kurdish villager had to have permission from agha, the owner of it, permission to leave it?
    So why care what happens to karzai or al maliki or aghas,beks, beys, kings, amirs; they are criminals!
    No, i am not happy about iraqis or americans killing innocet civilians.
    Bozh derives from bozhidar; which derives from two slavic words: bog [god] and dar [gift].
    It seems only serbs and croats have that name. tnx

  11. bozh said on September 3rd, 2010 at 3:27pm #

    Let’s face it, uzbeks, tajiks are also fighting pashtuns. Is the root cause for that affair division of them into less-and more-valuable people. That should be studied.
    And kurds are fighting sunnis, and shias and vice versa.
    US is responsible for that! To what degree i would leave experts to decide. And all of them are killing mostly civilians.
    It annoys me no end when people do not condemn the intranational and interethnic killings in palestina, iraq, and afpak.
    Let’s recall that czechs were occupied by germany, but were not killing one another. There was little or no military resistance against germans.
    Czechs did what they did because they saw no way out. It worked for them.
    Pashtuns, sunnis, and shias should have considered passive resistance.
    It could have not hurt. I do not see how it would have hurt their cause; especially, if they would have been as egalitarian as czechs.
    Palestinians could have also chosen a path of no resistance. Especially in view that their violence was always welcomed yet not gained an inch of land while loosing acreage daily.
    So why support such a futility! tnx

  12. hayate said on September 3rd, 2010 at 7:39pm #

    “But let us give credit where credit is due. Rabbi Yosef, unlike most others in Israel’s political, military and spiritual leadership, is being honest. I mean only that he dares to say in public what he really thinks.”

    That’s israel/zionism, alright. The “master race” of the the 20th century’s nazis had an affectation for silly looking moustaches. The “master race” of the 21st century’s nazis are mostly obese gluttons. That is how one tells the difference between a nazi and a zionist.

  13. 3bancan said on September 5th, 2010 at 7:07am #

    Let me say a few words about how I read/see this article:
    1. For a typical western so-called (zionazified and pro-democracy) lefty this is a brilliant piece of the “best” sort of journalism: it contains only “positive” thinking and no ‘hateful’ words (ie the words those ‘hateful’ writers like Nahida Izzat, Khalid Amayreh, Layla Anwar and Gilad Atzmon use so often), it has the right dosis of Fiskian-style irony (in view of the genocide going in Palestine it stirs up the reader’s positive feelings), it combines the necessary amount of hasbara (“there would be a place in a de-Zionized Palestine for all Jews who wanted to stay and live in peace with their fellow Arab citizens” is Mr Hart’s OWN WISH, put into Ahmadinejad’s words) with the right type of objectivity (ie of the type of “Over 1000 Gazan islamist militants have died while attacking the self-defending IDF, the most moral army in the world”).
    2. It states only that “most others in Israel’s political, military and spiritual leadership” are of that rabbi’s type (except that they are not “honest”). What about the other Israelis? No word about this from Mr Hart. Everyone knowledgeable in things Israel knows that practically all the Israelis want a goy-free zionazi state and that the vast majority agree with that rabbi. According to a Tel Aviv University survey 94% of Israelis strongly supported Operation Cast Lead. The percentage for the non-Israeli Jews was probably not much lower. Gilad Atzmon (http://www.gilad.co.uk/writings/gilad-atzmon-british-jews-support-israeli-war-crimes.html) writes “Eighteen months after the massacre in Gaza and a year after the UN Fact Finding Mission on the Gaza Conflict found Israel guilty of numerous war crimes and crimes against humanity, nearly three quarters (72%) of British Jews agreed that Israel’s action in Gaza in 2008 and 2009 was “a legitimate act of self-defence”. ” A knowledgeable reader will understand Mr Hart’s silence on this point: he is a “sharp” critic of zionism/Israel just to be at the same time the best supporter of the illegal, unlawful, immoral, fascist, nazi state of thieves, robbers, vandalizers, torturers, murderers, genociders and consummate liars. As a typical representative of the most treacherous tribe in the world (ie the Anlo-Saxons) he in the old colonial despotic manner wants to impose his barbaric “peace” in Palestine: the thieves should keep what they’ve stolen, the criminals against humanity should go unpunished, the victims should get no compensation, the Palestinians should be able to “return” only to the West Bank and Gaza (ie the “plan” proposed by the another criminal against humanity Jimmy Carter), and all the goy-world should respect the genociders and their genocidal barbarity with a New Covenant. Cf his articles “President Obama’s Opportunity to Speak Truth to Power” and “Do most Israelis and many other Jews NEED to feel persecuted?”…

  14. Don Hawkins said on September 5th, 2010 at 7:17am #

    Any thought’s on water fresh water or lack of it.