The State and Local Bases of Zionist Power in America

Any serious effort to understand the extraordinary influence of the Zionist power configuration over US foreign policy must examine the presence of key operatives in strategic positions in the government and the activities of local Zionist organizations affiliated with mainstream Jewish organizations and religious orders.

There are at least 52 major American Jewish organizations actively engaged in promoting Israel’s foreign policy, economic and technological agenda in the US (see the appendix). The grassroots membership ranges from several hundred thousand militants in the Jewish Federations of North America (JFNA) to one hundred thousand wealthy contributors, activists and power brokers in the American Israel Public Affairs Committee (AIPAC). In addition scores of propaganda mills, dubbed think tanks, have been established by million dollar grants from billionaire Zionists including the Brookings Institute (Haim Saban) and the Hudson Institute among others. Scores of Zionist funded political action committees (PAC) have intervened in all national and regional elections, controlling nominations and influencing election outcomes. Publishing houses, including university presses have been literally taken over by Zionist zealots, the most egregious example being Yale University, which publishes the most unbalanced tracts parroting Zionist parodies of Jewish history.1 New heavily funded Zionist projects designed to capture young Jews and turn them into instruments of Israeli foreign policy includes “Taglit-Birthright” which has spent over $250 million dollars over the past decade sending over a quarter-million Jews (between 18-26) to Israel for 10 days of intense brainwashing.2 Jewish billionaires and the Israeli state foot the bill. The students are subject to a heavy dose of Israeli style militarism as they are accompanied by Israeli soldiers as part of their indoctrination; at no point do they visit the West Bank, Gaza or East Jerusalem.2 They are urged to become dual citizens and even encouraged to serve in the Israeli armed forces. In summary, the 52 member organizations of the Presidents of the Major American Jewish Organizations which we discuss are only the tip of the iceberg of the Zionist Power Configuration: taken together with the PACs, the propaganda mills, the commercial and University presses and mass media we have a matrix of power for understanding the tremendous influence they have on US foreign and domestic policy as it affects Israel and US Zionism.

While all their activity is dedicated first and foremost in ensuring that US Middle East policy serves Israel’s colonial expansion in Palestine and war aims in the Middle East, what B’nai B’rth euphemistically calls a “focus on Israel and its place in the world”, many groups ‘specialize’ in different spheres of activity. For example, the “Friends of the Israel Defense Force” is primarily concerned in their own words “to look after the IDF”, in other words provide financial resources and promote US volunteers for a foreign army (an illegal activity except when it involves Israel). Hillel is the student arm of the Zionist power configuration claiming a presence in 500 colleges and universities, all affiliates defending each and every human rights abuse of the Israeli state and organizing all expenses paid junkets for Jewish student recruits to travel to Israel where they are heavily propagandized and encouraged to ‘migrate’ or become ‘dual citizens’.
Method: Studying Zionist Power:

There are several approaches for measuring the power of the combined Zionist organizations and influential occupants of strategic positions in government and the economy. These include (a) reputational approach (b) self claims (c) decision-making analysis (d) structural inferences. Most of these approaches provide some clues about Zionist potential power. For example, newspaper pundits and journalists frequently rely on Washington insiders, congressional staff and notables to conclude that AIPAC has the reputation for being one of the most powerful lobbies in Washington. This approach points to the need to empirically examine the operations of AIPAC in influencing Congressional votes, nomination of candidates, defeating incumbents who do not unconditionally support the Israeli line. In other words analyzing the Congressional and Executive decision-making process is one key to measuring Zionist power. But it is not the only one. Zionist power is a product of a historical context, where media ownership and wealth concentration and other institutional levers of power come into play and shape the current decision-making framework. Cumulative power over time and across institutions creates a heavy bias in the political outcomes favorable to Israel’s organized agents in America. Once again the mere presence of Jews or Zionists in positions of economic, cultural and political power does not tell us how they will use their resources and whether they will have the desired effect. Structural analysis, the location of Zionists in the class structure, is necessary but not sufficient for understanding Zionist power. One has to proceed and analyze the content of decisions made and not made regarding the agenda of Israel’s backers operating in the USA. The 52 major Zionists organizations are very open about their claims to power, their pursuit of Israel’s agenda and their subservience to each and every Israeli regime.

Those who deny Zionist power over US Mid East foreign policy are left-Zionists namely Noam Chomsky and his acolytes. They never analyze the legislative process, executive decision-making, the structures and activity of the million member Zionist grassroots and the appointments and background of key policy makers deciding strategic policies in the Middle East. Instead they resort to superficial generalizations and political demagogy, imputing policy to “Big Oil” and the “military-industrial complex” or “US imperialism”. Categories devoid of empirical content and historical context about real existing policy making regarding the Middle East.

The Making of Zionist Power in the US Government

To understand US submission to Israeli war policies in the Middle East one has to look beyond the role of lobbies pressuring Congress and the role of political action committees and wealthy Zionist campaign contributions. A much neglected but absolutely essential building block of Zionist power over US foreign economic, diplomatic and military policy is the Zionist presence in key policy positions, including the Departments of Treasury and State, the Pentagon, the National Security Council and the White House.

Operating within the top policymaking positions, Zionist officials have consistently pursued policies in line with Israel’s militarist policies, aimed at undermining and eliminating any country critical of the Jewish States’ colonial occupation of Palestine, its regional nuclear monopoly, its expansion of Jews only settlements and above all its strident efforts to remain the dominant power in the Arab East. The Zionist policymakers in Government are in constant consultation with the Israeli state, ensuring coordination with the Israeli military (IDF) command, its Foreign Office and secret police (MOSSAD) and compliance with the Jewish State’s political line. Over the past 24 months not a single Zionist policymaker has voiced any criticism of Israel’s most heinous crimes, ranging from the savaging of Gaza to the massacre of the humanitarian flotilla and the expansion of new settlements in Jerusalem and the West Bank. A record of loyalty to a foreign power which even exceeds the subservience of the Stalinist and Nazi fellow travelers in Washington during the 1930’s and 1940’s.

Zionist policymakers in strategic positions depend on the political backing and work closely with their counterparts in the “lobbies” (AIPAC) in Congress and in the national and local Jewish Zionist organizations. Many of the leading Zionist policymakers rose to power through a deliberate strategy of infiltrating the government to shape policy promoting Israel’s interest over and above the interests of the US populace. While a degree of cohesion resulting from a common allegiance to Tel Aviv can account for suspected nepotism and selection, it is also the case that the powerful Jewish lobbies can play a role in creating key positions in Government and ensuring that one of their own will occupy that position and pursue Israel’s agenda.

Stuart Levey: Israel’s Foremost Operative in the US Government

In 2004, AIPAC successfully pressured the Bush Administration to create the office of Undersecretary for Terrorism and Financial Intelligence (UTFI) and to name its protégé Princeton graduate Stuart Levey to that position. Before, but especially after his appointment, Levey was in close collaboration with the Israeli state and was known as an over the top Zionist zealot with unbounded energy and blind worship of the Israeli state.

Within the confines of his Zionist ideological blinders, Levey applied his intelligence to the singular task of turning his office into the major foreign policy venue for setting US policy toward Iran. Levey more than any other appointed official in government or elected legislator, formulates and implements policies which profoundly influence US, European Union and UN economic relations with Iran. Levey elaborated the sanctions policies, which Washington imposed on the EU and the Security Council. Levey, organizes the entire staff under his control at Treasury to investigate trade and investment policies of all the world’s major manufacturing, banking, shipping, petroleum and trading corporations. He then criss-crosses the US and successfully pressures pension funds, investment houses, oil companies and economic institutions to disinvest from any companies dealing with Iran’s civilian economy. He has gone global, threatening sanctions and blackballing dissident companies in Europe, Asia, the Middle East and North America which refuse to surrender economic opportunities. They all understood Levey operated at the behest of Israel, services Levey has proudly performed.

Levey coordinates his campaign with Zionist leaders in Congress. He secures sanctions legislation in line with his campaigns. His policies clearly violate international law and national sovereignty, pressing the limits of extra territorial enforcement of his administrative fiats against a civilian economy. His violation of economic sovereignty parallels Obama’s announcement that US Special Forces would operate in violation of political sovereignty on four continents. For all intents and purposes, Levey makes US policy toward Iran. At each point he designs the escalation of sanctions, and then passes it on to the White House, which shoves it down the throats of the Security Council. Once new sanctions approved by Levey and staff are in place they are there to enforce them: identifying violators and implementing penalties. Treasury has become an outpost of Tel Aviv. Not a single leftist, liberal or social democratic publication highlights the role of Levey or even the terrible economic pain this Old Testament fanatic is inflicting on 75 million Iranian civilian workers and consumers. Indeed like Israel’s Judeo-fascist rabbis who preach a “final solution” for Israel’s enemies, Levey announces new and harsher “punishment” against the Iranian people.3 Perhaps at the appropriate moment the Jewish State will name a major avenue through the West Bank for his extraordinary services to this most unholy racist state.

The Strategic Role of Local Power

The Israel Lobby Archive recently released declassified documents of the American Zionist Council (AZC) subpoenaed during a US Senate investigation between 1962-63. The documents reveal how the Israeli state through its American Jewish conduits – the mainstream Zionist organizations – penetrated the US mass media and propagated its political line, unbeknownst to the American public. Stories written by a host of Jewish Zionist journalists and academics were solicited and planted in national media such as The Readers Digest, The Atlantic Monthly, Washington Post among others, including regional and local newspapers and radio stations.4 While the national Zionist organizations procured the journalists and academic writers and editors, it was the local affiliates who carried the message and implemented the line. The level of infiltration the Senate subpoenaed Zionist documents in the 1960’s reveal has multiplied a hundred fold over the past 50 years in terms of financing, paid functionaries and committed militants and above all in structural power and coercive capability.

While the national leaders in close consultation with Israeli officials receive instructions on which issues are of high priority, the implementation follows a vertical route to regional and local leaders, politicians, and notables who in turn target the local media and religious, academic and other opinion leaders. When national leaders ensure publication of pro Israeli propaganda, the locals reproduce and circulate it to local media and non-Zionist influentials on their “periphery”. Letter campaigns orchestrated at the top are implemented by thousands of militant Zionist doctors, lawyers and businesspeople. They praise pro-Israel scribes and attack critics; they pressure newspapers, publishing houses and magazines not to publish dissidents. The national and local leaders promote hostile reviews of books not promoting the Israeli line, influence library decisions to pack their shelves with pro Israeli books and censor and exclude more balanced or critical histories. Local militants in co-ordination with Israeli consuls saturate the public with thousands of public meetings and speakers targeting Christian churches, academic audiences and civic groups; at the same time local Zionist militants and, especially millionaire influentials, pressure local venues (university administrators, church authorities and civic associations) to disinvite any critic of Israel and their supporters from speaking. In the last resort, local Zionists demand that a pro-Israel propagandist be given equal time, something unheard of when an Israel apologist is scheduled to speak.

Local Zionist organizations make yeoman efforts to recruit mayors, governors, local celebrities, publishers, church people and promising young ethnic and minority leaders by offering them all expenses paid propaganda junkets to Israel and then to write or give interviews parroting what they were fed by Israeli officials. Local leaders mobilize thousands of militant activist Zionists to attack anti-Zionist Jews in public and private. They demand they be excluded from any media roundtables on the Middle East.

Local Zionist functionaries form rapid response committees to visit and threaten any local publisher and editorial staff publishing editorials or articles questioning the Israeli party line. Local leaders police (“monitor”) all local meetings, speaker invitations, as well as the speeches of public commentators, religious leaders and academics to detect any “anti-Zionist overtones’ (which they label “covert anti-Semitism”). Most of the major Jewish religious orders are lined up as the clerical backbone of local Israeli fundraising, including the financing of new “Jews only” settlements in the Palestinian West Bank.

Local functionaries are in the forefront of campaigns to deny independent Middle East specialists and public policy academics, appointments, tenure or promotion, independently of the quality of their scholarship. On the other hand, academic hacks who toe the pro-Israel line, by publishing books with blanket attacks on Israeli critics among Christians and Muslims and countries like Turkey, Iran or whoever is a target of Israeli policy, are promoted, lauded and put on the best seller list. Any book or writer critical of Zionist Power or Israel is put on a local and national ‘index’ and subject to an inquisition by slander from a stable of Jewish Torquemadas.

Conclusion

The power of Israel in the US does not reside only in the influence and leadership of powerful Washington based “pro-Israel lobbies”, like AIPAC. Without the hundreds of thousands of militant locally based dentists, podiatrists, stockbrokers, real estate brokers, professors and others, the “lobby” would be unable to sustain and implement its policy among hundreds of millions of Americans outside the major metropolises. As we have seen from the Senate declassified documents, over a half-century ago, local Zionist organizations began a systematic campaign of penetration, control and intimidation that has reached its pinnacle in the first decade of the 21st century. It is no accident or mere coincidence that University officials in Northern Minnesota or upstate New York are targeted to exclude speakers or fire faculty members critical of Israel. Local Zionists have computerized databanks operating with an index of prohibited speakers, as the Zionists themselves admit and flaunt in contrast to “liberal” Zionists who are prone to label as “anti-Semitic” or “conspiracy theorists” writers who cite official Zionist documents demonstrating their systematic perversion of our democratic freedoms.

Over the decades, the distinction between Zionist power exercised by a “lobby” outside the government and operatives “inside” the government has virtually vanished. As we have seen, in our case study, AIPAC secured the undersecretary position in Treasury, dictated the appointment of a key Zionist operative (Stuart Levey) and accompanies his global crusade to sanction Iran into starvation and destitution. The planting of operatives within key Middle East positions in government is not the simple result of individual career choices. The ascent of so many pro-Israel Zionist to government posts is part of their mission to serve Israel’s interest at least for a few years of their careers. Their presence in government precludes any Senate or Congressional investigations of Zionists organizations acting as agents of a foreign power as took place in the 1960’s.

As the major Zionist organizations and influentials have accumulated power and abused the exercise of power on behalf of an increasingly bloody racist state, which flaunts its dominance over US institutions, public opposition is growing. The Boycott, Divestment and Sanctions campaign is gaining strength even in the US (see Harvard divestment in Israeli companies). US public support for Israel, by all measures, has dropped below 50%, while polls in Western Europe show a marked increase in hostility to Israel’s ultra-rightist regime. Anti-Zionist Jews are growing in influence especially among young Jews who are appalled by the Israeli slaughter in Gaza and assault on the humanitarian flotilla. Equally important the presence of anti-Zionist Jews on panels and forums has given courage to many otherwise intimidated non-Jews who heretofore were fearful of being labeled “anti-Semitic”.

The Zionist power configuration rests on a declining population base: most young Jews marry outside the confines of the ethno-religious Jewish-Israeli nexus and many of them are not likely to form the bases for rabid campaigns on behalf of a racist state. The Zionist leadership’s high intensity and heavily endowed effort to fence in young people of Jewish ancestry via private schools, subsidized “summer programs” in Israel etc. are as much out of fear and recognition of the drift away from clerical chauvinism as it is an attempt to recruit a new generation of Israel First militants.

The danger is that the US Zionist support for the ultra-rightist and racist regime in Israel is leading them to join forces with the far right in the US. Today Jewish and Christian Manhattan rednecks are fermenting mass Islamic hatred (the so called “Mosque controversy”) as a distraction from the economic crises and rising unemployment. Zionist promotion of mass Islamofobia, so near to Wall Street, where many of their fat cats who profit from plundering the assets of America operate, is a dangerous game. If the same enraged masses turn their eyes upward toward the wealthy and powerful instead of downward to blacks and Muslims, some unpleasant and unanticipated surprises might rebound against, not only Israel’s operatives, but all those wrongly identified as related to a misconstrued Jewish Motherland.

Appendix
Conference of Presidents of Major American Jewish Organizations
Member Organizations

1. Ameinu
2. American Friends of Likud
3. American Gathering/Federation of Jewish Holocaust Survivors
4. America-Israel Friendship League
5. American Israel Public Affairs Committee
6. American Jewish Committee
7. American Jewish Congress
8. American Jewish Joint Distribution Committee
9. American Sephardi Federation
10. American Zionist Movement
11. Americans for Peace Now
12. AMIT
13. Anti-Defamation League
14. Association of Reform Zionists of America
15. B’nai B’rith International
16. Bnai Zion
17. Central Conference of American Rabbis
18. Committee for Accuracy in Middle East Reporting in America
19. Development Corporation for Israel/State of Israel Bonds
20. Emunah of America
21. Friends of Israel Defense Forces
22. Hadassah, Women’s Zionist Organization of America
23. Hebrew Immigrant Aid Society
24. Hillel: The Foundation for Jewish Campus Life
25. Jewish Community Centers Association
26. Jewish Council for Public Affairs
27. The Jewish Federations of North America
28. Jewish Institute for National Security Affairs
29. Jewish Labor Committee
30. Jewish National Fund
31. Jewish Reconstructionist Federation
32. Jewish War Veterans of the USA
33. Jewish Women International
34. MERCAZ USA, Zionist Organization of the Conservative Movement
35. NA’AMAT USA
36. MCSK” Advocates on behalf of Jews in Russia, Ukraine, the Baltic States & Eurasia
37. National Council of Jewish Women
38. National Council of Young Israel
39. ORT America
40. Rabbinical Assembly
41. Rabbinical Council of America
42. Religious Zionists of America
43. Union for Reform Judaism
44. Union of Orthodox Jewish Congregations of America
45. United Synagogue of Conservative Judaism
46. WIZO
47. Women’s League for Conservative Judaism
48. Women of Reform Judaism
49. Workmen’s Circle
50. World ORT
51. World Zionist Executive, US
52. Zionist Organization of America

  1. Financial Times book review section August 28/29 2010. []
  2. Boston Globe August 26, 2010. [] []
  3. Stuart Levey, “Iran’s New Deceptions at Sea Must be Punished” FT 8/16/2010, p. 9. []
  4. Israel Lobby Archive, August 18, 2010. []

James Petras, a former Professor of Sociology at Binghamton University, New York, owns a 50-year membership in the class struggle, is an adviser to the landless and jobless in Brazil and Argentina, and is co-author of Globalization Unmasked (Zed Books). Petras’ most recent book is The Arab Revolt and the Imperialist Counterattack. He can be reached at: jpetras@binghamton.edu. Read other articles by James, or visit James's website.

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  1. MichaelKenny said on September 1st, 2010 at 9:07am #

    What a list! Could you imagine the uproar there would have been if, in cold war days, there were 52 American organisations supporting the Soviet Union!
    A small point re Europe: I’m glad to see someone on the other side of the Atlantic realising that Europe has been largely bullied (most recently by the attack on the euro) into supporting US policy. It’s not that Europe supports the Palestinian cause. Far from it! The “European street” doesn’t give a damn, one way or the other, about Palestine. But equally, it doesn’t give a damn, one way or the other, about Israel. It just doesn’t want to be dragged in to someone else’s fight. The reason why hostility to Israel is rising in Europe is, quite simply, because people preceive Israel as wanting to drag Europe into its fight with the Palestinians, whereas the latter are perceived as simply wanting Europe not to support Israel, which is precisely what Europeans themselves want. Essentially, Europeans just wants Israel, and the terrorism it brings down on everybody’s heads, to “go away”, they don’t really care how.

  2. bozh said on September 1st, 2010 at 9:51am #

    However, some astounding facts such as US` some 150 wars; disappearance of indigenes, acquisition of samoa, puerto rico, hawaii, gitmo, a-bombings prior to `jewish` takeover of entertainment industry, media, and foreign policy, proves beyond a shadow of doubt that US in-thought had not changed an iota.

    US is, as politicians proclaim, a nation governed by laws and not from street people or their thousand or so of orgs.
    Supreme court, wh-congress, media, USA USA USA crowd, priestly class, cia, fbi, generals, educators appear quite content with what goes on in US.
    So, why `jews` influence US` doings more than any other cult needs a deep study.
    And not to mention the fact that about 98% of americans support israel and `jewish` doings in US.

    So, i conclude, it is lawlessness that rules US as long as it is controled by plutos.
    And `jews` supplanting WASP as the leading cult. WASP being strongly pro UK and talmudniks-orthodox-reform cult strongly pro-israel and its expansion.

    It is puzzzling to me– we need more unbiased study— why the proud and INTELIGENT WASP is not rebelling against delegation to status no. 2? Or are not even seeing it?
    But in a lawlessness, no one who is approved of by plutos can break laws, since there isn`t any. I wonder if greatness of america, nation of laws, god bless america doesn`t mean just that?
    In short, and in end, it is people with money that rule US. It is their country and they can do whatever they want to do.
    And don`t ask-don`t tell who belongs to an ethnos or cult; just ask for money to run his errands. tnx

  3. shabnam said on September 1st, 2010 at 10:18am #

    {And not to mention the fact that about 98% of americans support israel and `jewish` doings in US.}

    I am glad you did not include the Jewish population of the US, 2 percent, in your given statistics to claim your statistics is not biased!!! Aaccording to your statistics, close to 100 percent of Americans supports the apartheid state!!
    Then, one can claim all Americas are born with elongated ear!! Do they appear that way? I DON’T THINK SO.
    There must be something wrong with the given ‘fact’.

  4. bozh said on September 1st, 2010 at 10:46am #

    Shabman? Have u not read my post slowly enough or are u going from memory?
    I repeat, 98% of americans support israel and US wars. I did not say that 98% of latinos, `jews`, blacks support israel or US policy!
    Also remember that it is too late to lament US wars when balloting to the tune of 99% for them. tnx

  5. teafoe2 said on September 1st, 2010 at 10:58am #

    Bozh writes: >So, why `jews` influence US` doings more than any other cult needs a deep study.<

    Thank you Mr B, exactly what I've been saying:)

    Here's a good source to get your deep study started:

    Lee O'Brien, "American Jewish Organizations and Israel", Institute for Palestine Studies 1986, 329pp, available from AET.

    Thirtysix of the fiftytwo outfits mentioned by Petras are listed in the table of contents; one to several pages are devoted to detailing the organizational structure and operations of each.

    Grant Smith in his "Foriegn Agents" goes into much finer detail about the organizations and machinations he targets, but O'Brien's book privides an excellent if slightly dated overview of the entire structure of the Zionist-proIsrael presence in the US. It provides an excellent framework or "skeleton" with which to organize updated information about the ZPC.

  6. Deadbeat said on September 1st, 2010 at 1:00pm #

    Those who deny Zionist power over US Mid East foreign policy are left-Zionists namely Noam Chomsky and his acolytes. They never analyze the legislative process, executive decision-making, the structures and activity of the million member Zionist grassroots and the appointments and background of key policy makers deciding strategic policies in the Middle East. Instead they resort to superficial generalizations and political demagogy, imputing policy to “Big Oil” and the “military-industrial complex” or “US imperialism”. Categories devoid of empirical content and historical context about real existing policy making regarding the Middle East.

    Thank you James Petras!

  7. Rehmat said on September 1st, 2010 at 1:15pm #

    Noam Chomsky is not the only Jew ‘intellectual’ who deny the existence of Jewish power in the US or for that matter in the UK, France, Germany and Australia – there are others like Daniel Pipes, Alan Dorshi, Robert Spencer, Fareed Zakaria, Glen Beck and even Canadian Prime Minister Stephen Harper.

    http://rehmat1.wordpress.com/2010/07/30/uss-audacity-of-hope-to-occupied-gaza/

  8. Deadbeat said on September 1st, 2010 at 1:22pm #

    bozh writes …

    It is puzzzling to me– we need more unbiased study— why the proud and INTELIGENT WASP is not rebelling against delegation to status no. 2? Or are not even seeing it?

    This is an interesting question. My conjectures are that WASPs were more right-wing in their orientation and therefore easily attacked by left-Zionists especially as they latched onto the Civil Rights and Feminist Movements. Also WASP were more oriented toward the industrial sectors of the economy that has been waning now for the past 40 years while conversely the FIRE sector has grown enormously.

    For example notice how on the leftwing-TV “news” show (Democracy Now, Grit TV,etc) the topic of “power configuration” always has a “right-wing WASP” bent. They’ll pull out a Richard Mellon Scaife, John Birch Society-type but billionaires like Haim Saban pretty much goes unmentioned and unnoticed.

    I think that the WASP’s being tainted as “racist”, “male chauvinist”, “right-winger”, etc by the “Left” and the obvious shift in money power are probably the two main reasons.

    I’m open to other explanations.

  9. Deadbeat said on September 1st, 2010 at 1:30pm #

    Rehmat writes …

    Noam Chomsky is not the only Jew ‘intellectual’ who deny the existence of Jewish power in the US or for that matter in the UK, France, Germany and Australia –

    I agree but the most important aspect of Chomskyism is that it defines the parameters of discussion and debate on what is called the “far-Left” of American Politics. Chomskyism DEFINES the “Left”. Therefore Chomskyism IMO had done more damage than the other people you site because his ideas has corrupted the real grassroots base where opposition much be arise.

    How the Left anointed a Zionist as its intellectual leader has to be the cruelest joke of all.

  10. PatrickSMcNally said on September 1st, 2010 at 2:20pm #

    > My conjectures are that WASPs were more right-wing in their orientation and therefore easily attacked by left-Zionists especially as they latched onto the Civil Rights and Feminist Movements.

    I’d have to disagree with that, since the Rockefellers actually did support black civil rights (within a bourgeois framework) and the like. In fact, this one of the reasons why the John Birch Society absolutely hated the Rockefellers.

    > I’m open to other explanations.

    I’d have to put it down to the crisis of confidence which all of the old ruling classes experienced in the first half of the last century. Many educated people who were by no means Marxists were convinced in the 1930s that capitalism was a doomed system on its last legs. The reconstruction of the world economy after WWII changed this and gave capitalism a new lease on life for more than half a century longer. At the same time the fact that this was won in part through a military victory over the Third Reich gave a vindication to the meme of anti-antisemitism, and more generally anti-racism, as part of what had brought the new prosperity. All of the old WASP classes accepted that a laying aside of these types of racial quotas and barriers (again, on terms of bourgeois legality) was part and parcel of a rejuvenated capitalism which could stand proud in the world.

    Jews who came into wealth after World War II, rising from petite bourgeois status to haute bourgeoisie, did not have such a past crisis of class confidence hanging around their necks. Rising from rags to riches after the Third Reich, most of the Jewish nouveau riche possessed a sense of confidence and dynamism which no older elites retained after 1914-45. Of course that has been falling apart rather rapidly on a historical scale. Petras’s comments about intermarriage are relevant here. But it accounts for developments in the second half of the last century.

  11. teafoe2 said on September 1st, 2010 at 2:35pm #

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    Author and activist Anna Baltzer explains why the Israeli beauty company, Ahava, should be boycotted by citizens of conscience. Baltzer: What does it mean to try and find beauty out of this destruction and the denial of Palestinian human rights? There is nothing beautiful about that at all. To buy beauty products to whitewash what [...]

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  12. teafoe2 said on September 1st, 2010 at 3:04pm #

    Re WASPs as second fiddlers: do see what Martillo says.

    Off my own ball spot,
    The core of the ZPC has been based in colonial america/US since 1654, as capitalist bankers financing longdistance trade, whaling, importation of slaves, tobacco/sugar/cotton production, later steel/railroads/beef&pork etc. As capitalists they shared the same motivations as all capitalists: “Accumulate! Accumulate!” etc. on pain of being outcompeted & bankrupted by bigger fish.

    As mainly Sephardic Jews, they seem to have adhered closely to tradition, Torah, Talmud. (which see). They saw it as a duty to maximize Jewish affluence and power, while exercising care not to offend their WASPish hosts/fellow “americans”.

    When they were joined in the land of the free by the first wave of German Jewish immigrants, what I think of as the “Brandeis” wave, rabbinic influences came to the fore. Successive waves included more Yiddishophone elements, often influenced by trade union and socialist ideology.
    Those who were that time well established took steps to see that the newcomers were tamed, cleaned up, and assimilated to the existing Jewish Community power structure. Of course the process took quite a while.

    All sections of the US Jewish public shared and still share the maximization of Jewish well-being as a longterm goal. Most see promoting the power of the Jewish State as the most important way they can contribute to this.

    These are just a few key aspects; other factors exist. But these may help clear up some of the confusion?

  13. bozh said on September 1st, 2010 at 3:14pm #

    More about puzzles and puzzling silence on them by all MSM collumnists and ?all internet contributors; which would include also posters.
    I bet that no one in US realizes that the first walled-town was an open huge prison?
    All US and other lands’ cities are also in toto dependent; thus also act as prisons.
    I’ll explain why some other time. Meanwhile i want u guyz to uze own big and small heads.
    I’ll give u more puzzles sortly, but let me digress please for a few moments.

    My small head told me: Bob, get a new ass. The next day she said i did not hear her right. She said that she said, Bob get off your ass!
    I told her that she better get a new ass herself or else…. and she said to me i will if u gonna kiss it!
    I think u guyz think that asocialists and their allies, the sacerdodal class [clergy] of people only wage wars.
    However, they also wage ignorance, poverty, etc., sans which one couldn’t even wage fist fights let alone wars.
    And bugbears, ghosts, hell, heaven, ‘heroism’, flag waving, spooks, etc., have been waged only for ca. 10k yrs.
    And even jesus had, if quoted correctly, approbated poverty by saying :ye shall ALWAYS [yes eternally, and by god's command] have poor amongst u!
    He did not elucidate us why would god need poor people or even spokespeople to speak for her-him-it.
    One last puzzle. Even lands such as afgh’n, iraq, palestina, and israel are but huger than city prisons; with inmates guarding and killing one another.
    Is that what greatness of america means? tnx

  14. PatrickSMcNally said on September 1st, 2010 at 3:36pm #

    > The core of the ZPC has been based in colonial america/US since 1654, as capitalist bankers financing longdistance trade, whaling, importation of slaves, tobacco/sugar/cotton production, later steel/railroads/beef&pork etc.

    I’d have to say that none of that can really explain much of anything apart from the crisis which global capitalsim lurched through in the first half of the 20th century. Most of the more prominent Jews of the last 65 years are really nouveau rich who can not trace fortunes back to the 1600s but can tell you of relatives who had to leave Europe in the 1930s and ’40s. A lot of Right-wingers (and this clearly includes the Martello site) seek to either play down the idea that there was a real crisis of capitalism a century ago, or else some of them will imply that it was just a made-up crisis invented by Jews (ala The Protocols of Zion). If we don’t appreciate the occurrence of a real crisis in the bowels of capitalism a century ago, then we can’t really account for the massive social shifts which clearly occurred.

  15. teafoe2 said on September 1st, 2010 at 3:59pm #

    what makes you think that Martillo is a “rightwinger”?

    “crisis of capitalism a century ago”? you mean BEFORE WWI?

    Are you saying that Lazard Freres and Salomon Bros are not “prominent Jews”?

    What I was trying to clue you in to, is that these “nouvea riche” benefited from the presence of well established co-religionists able to give ambitious and talented newcomers a leg up on the capitalist ladder.

    Suggest you tear yourself away from your “Marxist” catechism and its mechanical, “economist” cliches and check out a copy of the Jewish Bulletin, where you will see notices posted urging “Any Jew Who Has Failed In Business” to contact a certain address in order to apply for a loan, for which the first requisite is that the applicant must be Jewish.

    Of course, many of the richest of the rich have made not achieving public prominence an art form.

    Suggest you read Martillo, and “bracket” portions you find questionable; I’m as familiar with Marxist analysis as you are, and have found that none of the versions on the market account for all observable phenomena.

    “Concrete analysis of concrete conditions”.

  16. PatrickSMcNally said on September 1st, 2010 at 5:07pm #

    > what makes you think that Martillo is a “rightwinger”?

    He’s rehashed a lot of staples from the Cold War like the “manmade famine” fable.

    > What I was trying to clue you in to, is that these “nouvea riche” benefited from the presence of well established co-religionists able to give ambitious and talented newcomers a leg up on the capitalist ladder.

    And what I was pointing out was that if the instabilities from 1914-45 had not caused a serious loss of confidence in the more traditionally established upper class then the proportion of Jews among the wealthy elite would still be at about the same level it was at in 1913. I mean, you’re the one who brought up something as far back as 1654. So what were these Jews doing sitting around on their butts for 3 centuries before we started to see a steady rise to prominence of Jews in the second half of the 20th century? I didn’t make that a question. You did by reaching all the way back to 1654.

  17. shabnam said on September 1st, 2010 at 5:59pm #

    {Levey more than any other appointed official in government or elected legislator, formulates and implements policies which profoundly influence US, European Union and UN economic relations with Iran.}

    You are absolutely right. Stuart Levey travels around the world to pressure corporate leaders who are working to stop their cooperation to help Iran economic strangulation to weaken the zionist’s perceived enemy at the expense of other countries’ economic growth because the Organized Zionists Jews control US foreign policy.
    The International and American sanctions have traditionally been about targeting WMD proliferation, but Stuart Levey is using his position to bring down Israel’s perceived enemy to help Israel in the region at the expense of both Iranians and American people.
    Obama, was directed by AIPAC, to keep Stuart Levey at his position where was given to him by George Bush, the illiterate ‘president’. This decision has given the organized Zionist Jews, a unique opportunity to strangulate Iran through economic sanctions to bring unemployment, poverty and disease, like Iraq, to increase dissatisfaction among the population to push them into street to create chaos, then to claim that we have an ‘opposition movement’ in Iran which should be supported. Iran has continually kept under economic sanctions, war through proxy, threat of nuclear war on a daily basis to make life difficult in Iran which leads to brain drain where forces the educated workers, the human capital, leave Iran for better economic opportunities to countries such as USA, Canada, Germany, Britain, at the expense of the Iranian nation since these people were educated with the Iranian national wealth.
    Shame on you Levey. Stuart Levey must realize that we never abandon our government just to please the Zionist mass murderers. We stand with our president and government against the enemy of Iran, whoever that might be and their stooges. We hold the Zionists and their puppets responsible for every single death, every single failure to bring business into the country to feed our children. American people also are responsible for being silent against US crimes against humanity.
    American people must understand that Levey’s loyalty is with Israel, otherwise, why he forces sanctions against Iran which is a natural ally of the United States and has done nothing against the International law? Iran is not the country who has proliferated nuclear technology. Iran is not the country who has refused to sign the NPT. Iran is not the country who does not allow UN inspectors in to inspect her nuclear enrichment facility. It is, however, Israel who does all these illegal activities in addition to committing crimes against humanity, terrorism, occupation, genocide, invasion of neighboring countries frequently.
    Levey’s children attend a Jewish day school in suburban Maryland and he is involved in school activities. Imagine an American with Persian heritage do the same thing and sent his kids to an Islamic school and was involved in school activities with his kids. Do you think this Person would have been given the same position in the government? Do you think he was allowed to design a sanction regime against Israel? This is against the interest of the United States; therefore, every single American must act against it at once. Why do Americans with 15 percent unemployment should allow an Israel firster to prevent trade to benefit Israel?
    Iranians in the United States are very educated, if I am not mistaken the most educated group, yet Obama was NOT ALLOWED to use educated Iranians as advisors on Iran. It is only the zionist Jews who are given these kind of position, although have no expertise on Iran, like Dennis Ross. On the other hand, a biased zionist Jew, like Dennis Ross, becomes the main person on “peace process’. No wonder the Zionists were able to steal Palestine with Americans support through their SILENCE. Now, they are helping zionist crimes against Iranians through their SILENCE.
    Reza Aslan who has a PhD and is expert on Islam and Iran, during his book promotion, was asked: why the administration does not use your skills? He said: I am interested to work in the political circle at the State Department but I was given a position to work with China desk where I know close to sh*t. China is not my field, then why should I work in a field that I was not trained? This shows that Iranians scholar who were brought up in the US are not allowed to serve their country, meaning the United States, but the Zionist Jews whose first priority is Israel are head of sensitive US department such as intelligence, navy, White House, Pentagon and elsewhere.
    Grand Smith has exposed Levy’s double standard when it comes to Israel. He writes:
    {The Israel lobby also vetted Stuart Levey who President Bush approved to lead the new unit. TFI claims to be “safeguarding the financial system against illicit use and combating rogue nations, terrorist facilitators, and weapons of mass destruction (WMD) proliferators, money launderers, drug kingpins, and other national security threats.” However its actions—and more important, inactions—reveal it to be a sharp-edged tool forged principally to serve the Israel lobby.
    TFI has taken no actions to undercut one nexus of money laundering in the Middle East unveiled in 2005 by Israeli prosecutor Talia Sasson and exposed by USA Today. Even mainstream print outlets such as Reuters continue to wonder aloud why US tax exemptions are offered for illegal overseas activities. Although Stuart Levey has made multiple official visits to Jerusalem to liaise with Israeli government officials, when formally asked under a Freedom of Information Act request to reveal how TFI was tackling the reported $50-$60 billion laundered from the US through Israel and into illegal West Bank settlements, TFI politely demurred. TFI claims that Levey’s US-taxpayer-funded missions to Israel must be kept secret from the American public in order to comply with the Bank Secrecy Act, which ironically is an anti-money-laundering law.}
    But Levey takes extra measure to make sure that the Iranian economy goes under by forcing business community not to work with Iran giving LIES as reason to expand the Jewish Zionists mass murderers at the expense of Iranians, Americans, Palestinians, Sudanese, Iraqis, and many more Muslim countries. Professor Petras: we appreciate your work.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gkjmi9D-E1g&feature=channel

  18. Rehmat said on September 1st, 2010 at 6:18pm #

    The great majority of top politicians in the US, UK, France, Germany and Australian know about ‘The Monster’, so powerful and so vicious, that they’re afraid to talk about it in the public. They know that it was ‘The Monster’ who was behind the assassination of Preident John F. Kennedy and his younger brother Robert Kennedy. They also know that it was the Monster who was really behind the September 11, 2001 terrorism and the earlier attack on USS Liberty. Some of them also know why so much fuss is being generated for the construction of the Islamic Community Center in the vacinity of ‘Ground Zero’ – where bars, porn shops and other anti-social stuff already exist or who is behind the Islamophobia campaign. However, they feel safe by closing their eyes and pretending that ‘The Monster’ doesn’t exist – at least not in front of them.

    In 1984, Admiral Thomas Moorer, former Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, had stated: “I’ve never seen a President — I don’t care who he is — stand up to [the Jews] … They always get what they want. The Israelis know what is going on all the time. I got to the point where I wouldn’t write anything down. If the American people understood what a grip these people have got on our government, they would rise up in arms.”

    For the last few decades, The Monster has been preparing the American public for a new battle field to die for Israel.

    http://rehmat1.wordpress.com/2010/09/02/saving-humanity-from-the-monster/

  19. teafoe2 said on September 1st, 2010 at 6:32pm #

    Shabnam! Doesn’t your computer have a Spellchecker on it?

    “Grand Smith” sounds grand, but his name is Grant, with a Tee. In English it makes a BIG difference:)

    Patrick, I just typed out several paras of absolutely devastating argument, then my hand slipped and I erased it all. I’ll try again tomorrow, hope you’re still around. Even I don’t entirely agree, your arguments are plausible enough to be interesting:)

  20. shabnam said on September 1st, 2010 at 6:50pm #

    teafoe2

    My Spellchecker is not allowed to work since it is under sanction. You must remove the sanction regime first. It means you should get rid of Levey first.

  21. PatrickSMcNally said on September 1st, 2010 at 7:11pm #

    While we’re waiting for tomorrow, let’s go back over another muddled statement which Joachim Martillo has made in the past (I have seen him before):

    “A segment of the Eastern European ethnic Ashkenazim chose to be players in Eastern European politics, and without them the Communists would never have stolen the Russian Revolution.”

    Oh, brother! That’s wrong on multiple counts. First of all, if the Provisional Government of Alexander Kerensky had signed an immediate peace with Germany the way Lenin did a year later at Brest-Litovsk, the Bolsheviks would never have come to power. It was the determination of the Provisional Government to remain in the war which created the crisis that led to the July Uprising. At the time people tried to maintain that this was something set up by the Bolsheviks in an underhanded way. That charge has not been supported by the evidence.

    Secondly, while it is true that the Whites (I mean the reactionary military officers who launched the Russian civil war in the spring of 1918) eventually alienated everyone to the point that most Jews gave their support to Bolsheviks, that was not how things began. It’s well-established in the historical record that most Jewish members of Russia’s Social Democratic Party went with the Mensheviks at the time of the split. A few who had opposed Lenin in 1903 joined with him in 1917 (Trotsky was one of the more noteworthy of these) but the majority did not.

    It was the reactionary Whites who drove not only Jews but the majority of Russian peasants into siding with the Bolsheviks, at least for awhile. The Whites refused to grasp that only the Mensheviks and the Social Revolutionaries were capable of posing a popular alternative to the Bolsheviks. The Whites sided with the old landlords and massacred peasants who had taken over landed estates, and they also initiated pogroms against Jews who welcomed them for driving out the Bolsheviks. The Whites carried out coups wherever the Mensheviks and Social Revolutionaries had established a popular non-Bolshevik government and treated Mensheviks and SRs the way Pinochet treated Allende. That was what accounted for both the Bolshevik victory in Russia’s civil war and the large-scale going over to supporting the Bolsheviks which occurred among Jews.

    Martillo is simply an apologist for the Whites with this claim that “the Communists … have stolen the Russian Revolution.” The revolution was not stolen by anyone. It could have had a happier ending if Kerensky had gotten out of the war and received support for this from Kornilov, but Kerensky didn’t leave the war and Kornilov wouldn’t have supported his doing so. Or if Kolchak and Denikin had agreed to declare an oath of loyalty to the government which Mensheviks and SRs were forming when the Bolsheviks dismissed them, then perhaps the civil war would have ended differently. But the Whites refused to accept this as the reality and everything else followed from there.

    Regarding the rise of Jewish wealth in the second half of the 20th century, I don’t see how talk about 1654 can be much more than a minor footnote to that. It should, I think, be apparent that what is relevant is understanding the first half of the same century.

  22. Cameron said on September 1st, 2010 at 7:23pm #

    Help break the blockade on Gaza‏:

    http://www.ustogaza.org

  23. Rey said on September 1st, 2010 at 10:42pm #

    Very informative piece, James.

    re: Stuart Levey. Your article lists him as a Princeton grad, however his bio at the Treasury website indicates he and Obama were in school together.

    http://www.treas.gov/organization/bios/levey-e.html

    “Mr. Levey graduated from Harvard College, summa cum laude, in 1986 and from Harvard Law School, magna cum laude, in 1989.”

  24. mary said on September 1st, 2010 at 11:52pm #

    Shabnam Thanks for that info on Levey. No doubt he is known to Bliar who is heavily engaged in selling his execrable memoirs at the moment. He has no regrets about the deaths in Iraq as he knows that his decision to go to war was right. He was smiling as he said this on TV last night, surely confirmation that he is a psychopath.

    His only regrets seem to be the fox hunting ban and the freedom of infomation act which were passed during his term in office.

    Yesterday he was advocating a military offensive on Iran. He is an absolutely vile and disgusting member of the human race, yet he lives while millions are either dead, maimed, made refugee, widow or orphan. He was being interviewed on the BBC by Andrew Marr yet another disgusting creep. He is famous for crawling round Bliar in 2003 and carrying the propaganda for the war on Iraq.

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2010/sep/01/tony-blair-west-use-force-iran-nuclear-weapons

  25. mary said on September 2nd, 2010 at 1:32am #

    No words.

    http://bit.ly/dBYeit

  26. bozh said on September 2nd, 2010 at 8:32am #

    The study of or research on why WASP seems to have or had been demoted to status 2, must also account for why WASP, WHO, IN THE MAIN, ESTABLISHED US allowed own diminishment in econo-monetary-military-governmental powers and not– as is case now with petras, et al– to ad infinitum lament ‘jewish’ excessive control of those powers and leaving the role of WASP untouched.

    In any case, whatever the elucidation we educe from facts, must be ok.
    For better understandings, we need to hyphenate money, army, economy, clergy, media, govt, cia, fbi, schooling [at least in thought] because it is all one skein of wool; none of these aspects of the sytem of rule stands alone or separated from any other.
    Thus, the role of media, being in effect [but not verbally, of course; for obvious reasons] a governmental function, is seen as such and not as meek, obedient, cowardly, dishonest segment. tnx

  27. teafoe2 said on September 2nd, 2010 at 11:31am #

    Shabnam, I accept your explanation, perfeckly undastanavle. And I thank you; I’m grateful to you for granding me such a detailed explination of such a trivalil point:)

    Patrick, compliments on your detailed knowledge of the October Revolution period. I have to agree with you that Martillo is dead wrong on many points. And that his viewpoint is in many respects reactionary. However.

    Can you supply the sources supporting your statements about there being few Jews among the Bolsheviks prior to the wars against the Whites and the Western attempts to “intervene”? It may be that your description of this is accurate; however all sources I’ve come across agree that the Soviet “Nomenclatura” included a majority of “Jewish Nationality” well before Stalin became Gen Sec.
    I notice you chose not to mention the Bund.

    Anyway, the reason I posted Martillo’s table of contents is not that I consider him the ultimate authority on any of the subjects about which he writes, but that his synoptic acquaintance with Ashkenazi history and culture, his mention of events and periods seldom referred to by other anti-Zionist writers, provides a more comprehensive skeleton or framework for organizing relevant information than that provided by Ms O’Brien, “Grand” Smith, Petras, /// uh oh lemme post before han slips agin…

  28. teafoe2 said on September 2nd, 2010 at 11:40am #

    BDS

    Our motivation for investing time/energy/resources in BDS is not identical with that of persons having a fiduciary duty to represent Palestinian interests above all others.

    From our point of view, BDS is the spearhead of a more complex operation aimed at bringing about radical fundamental change on a much larger scale.

    Strategic objective: detach Black activists and Chicano/Latino activists from pro-Izzy, pro-Bama coalition. Deprive BHO of this base of support, same time deprive other Dumbocrat officeholders, politicos of same.

    ZPC or/and US Imperialism: the same? Distinct? Tail wags dog, or verse vicey? what is the true relationship between these entities, between ZPC & erstwhile WASP “power elite”?

    Combat “worfuroyl” mythology, target ZPC and Zio-controlled Banks, Financial sector, FIRE. If focussing protest on Energy Sector, make specific demands. If picketing Chevron, what are the demands? Watcha want Chevron to do, to stop doing?

    Target mainstream “Jewish Community”: CPMJO member orgs, local branches. Local synagogues, “service” agencies. Local interfaith service bureau presence, ties to local Xstinane churches/clergie. Local central labor councils, SEIU. NAACP, MAPA etc., challenge ties/support to Izzy, ZPC, ZPC-subservient politicos.

    How much of local Senators or Congresscritters financial support comes from Energy Sector, and how much from FIRE, incl RE developers?

    Problems with BDS:

    inclusion of “post-67” “anti-Occupation” elements reflected in Global BDS position statement.

    Position Statement BTW very well written, covers vast detail, nuances. A must-read.

    Local BDS Campaign position statement even more watered down than Global version.

    Reflects inclusion JVP, 67 occupation-focused outfits.

    Backwardness of local area makes it more necessary to include JVP et al in order not to be dismissable as “extreme”.

    Inclusion/accomodation JVP et al less important to those w/ exclusive focus Palestine, esp. those who believe BDS alone can impact Izzy enough to compel Izzy to “negotiate in good faith”, seek compromise, make concessions etc.

    But to we who find that a very dubious proposition, BDS is the spearhead of a more complex operation aimed at bringing about radical fundamental change on a much larger scale.

  29. PatrickSMcNally said on September 2nd, 2010 at 12:46pm #

    > all sources I’ve come across agree that the Soviet “Nomenclatura” included a majority of “Jewish Nationality” well before Stalin became Gen Sec.

    Well even when Stalin became GenSec it would be more accurate to say that Jews were not a majority but had a presence which was higher than the ratio in the general population. But I was referring to the periods before and shortly after 1917. This is discussed in Benjamin Pinkus, THE JEWS OF THE SOVIET UNION. Of course even in this time-period before 1917, the Bolsheviks had more Jews than the Black Hundreds did. Stalin is known for having passed around a joke in the pre-1917 era about how a pogrom could be used to fight the Mensheviks. That was because the Mensheviks clearly had more Jewish members than did the Bolsheviks. But the latter were not totally absent of Jewish members even before 1917, and I didn’t mean to suggest that they were (although Stalin’s joke implied it).

    Between the time of the October Revolution and Stalin becoming General Secretary there were a lot of upheavals and changes. If a Menshevik-SR government had been backed up by loyal ex-Czarist officers then the changes could have been one leading to a government led by them. The problem with the Whites was not over what percentage of Bolsheviks were Jews, but whether or not a Menshevik-SR government could be accepted as the only functional alternative to the Bolsheviks. The Whites refused to accept that, and this doomed them. But it also drove many undecided Jews who might have been easily won over to supporting a Menshevik-SR government into supporting the Bolsheviks. That certainly did show an effect on rising Jewish membership in the Bolsheviks by 1922.

  30. teafoe2 said on September 2nd, 2010 at 2:57pm #

    Thank you P., easy to see you’ve studied this period a lot.

    Do I detect a note of sympathy with the prospect of a Menshevik/SR government backed by Czarist officers? As preferable to Lenin & Co.? Sorry but to me that would amount to Vacillation.

    But all this is getting away from the main point, which was… uh, what was it? Oh yes, back to the tail wagging the pup or the reverse.

    Petras provides a snapshot of the power relationships prevailing in the US state apparatus at this point in time, and backs it with the kind of evidence an impartial & disinterested jury would regard as Proven Beyond a Reasonable Doubt.

    Petras is a scholar and makes a case that stands up under scholarly review. I am NOT a scholar, alas, and am not aiming at putting together a “paper” to be Peer Reviewed. I’m trying to figure where best to invest energy and time in order to help bring about the defeat and disempowerment of ALL these bastards, among whom these Ziocons/Nazizzys are currently hegemonic.

    Post, switch to word processor, continue…

  31. PatrickSMcNally said on September 2nd, 2010 at 3:32pm #

    > Do I detect a note of sympathy with the prospect of a Menshevik/SR government backed by Czarist officers?

    No, not really, though I guess I do feel a bit of sympathy when people Martov and Plekhanov are branded as agents of the Learned Elders of Zion. It’s yet another reminder that the Whites deserved to be swept away. But I would also say that one has to allow some kind of fair review of what the Menshevik-SR types represented if we wish to evaluate claims like “the Jews brought the Bolsheviks to power!” That is what most Right-wingers of the time tried to claim. I think to evaluate that we should be prepared to consider the most rational type of anti-Bolshevik course which could have been attempted and see where this leads. As I see it, it was specifically the Whites who drew a red line between Bolshevism or counter-revolution and the majority of Russians clearly chose Bolshevism under those terms.

  32. bozh said on September 2nd, 2010 at 3:52pm #

    Here’s an explanation of what bolshevik and menshevik mean. Both of them were members of the communist party. Bolsheviks and mensheviks both were in the leadership of the party.
    At one meeting prior to oct 17 revolution a vote was taken whether to revolt or not. Bolsheviks won. The word was coined from the word “bolshoi”, meaning best, greater or i sit great?
    From the words less, smaller [i do not know the russian words for less or smaller. Was it manye, manyi?] menshevik was coined.

    Often lenin is considered ‘jewish’. He, tho, appeared a cross between a mongol and slav. Being a revolutionary i don`t think he loved any religion.
    Trotsky was of jewish cult but appeared more slavic than lenin. Stalin was a georgian and did look like a khazar, hasar, kirghiz, armenian.
    But was he also a cultist? tnx

  33. PatrickSMcNally said on September 2nd, 2010 at 4:24pm #

    > Here’s an explanation of what bolshevik and menshevik mean. Both of them were members of the communist party.

    They had been part of the Russian Social Democratic Party, which split into two factions as early as 1903. There was no communist party at that time, The name was introduced by Lenin after 1917 when the Third International was being founded.

    > Often lenin is considered ‘jewish’.

    He apparently had a paternal grandfather who was Jewish.

  34. teafoe2 said on September 2nd, 2010 at 4:32pm #

    bozh… oh, forget it, it’s no use.

    Less than a week ago I posted a detailed bio of J. Vissiaronovitch Dzjugashvili, aka Stalin, in Russian palatalized to be pron. “Stalyin”.

    “was he also a cultist”! good god.

  35. PatrickSMcNally said on September 2nd, 2010 at 5:39pm #

    > the Atom Bomb, which was invented by Jews and developed under Jewish direction using War Dept & other Federal funds.

    Well I agree that that was appreciated. But I’ve always had the sense that a crisis of class-confidence was critical in determining the way things went. Everyone hears about “class-consciousness,” and how the ruling classes always have a better sense of it than the exploited laborers. But related to that is a sense of “class-confidence” which reflects how firmly a privileged class believes in its destiny to rule. My impression is that 1914-45 created a major crisis of class-confidence among the more traditional non-Jewish elites. When Hitler’s defeat was followed by a Baby Boom which seemed to relegate Marxism to the dustbin, this established a bond between anti-antisemitism and the renewal of class-confidence among elites. That bond made WASPs unable to assert themselves as an established class against Jews moving up the ladder. At least that’s my interpretation of it.

  36. teafoe2 said on September 2nd, 2010 at 6:34pm #

    well I’m sure there’s something to your hypothesis.

    The “Boom” wasn’t just a lot of babies, it was a general economic boom that lasted until at least 1968. I’d say that victory in WWII was the main thing that restored the established rulingclass’ confidence that they were destined by Providence to remain Masters of the Universe. “…a bond between anti-antisemitism and the renewal of class-confidence among elites.”?

  37. PatrickSMcNally said on September 2nd, 2010 at 8:03pm #

    > victory in WWII was the main thing

    A victory won over the Third Reich, which had been ideologically founded upon ideas about Jews as the alien enemy. In the Middle Ages if a Catholic power defeated a Muslim enemy then that became part the script of Providence. Defeating an antisemitic state such as the Third Reich, and subsequently rising to economic prominence from this victory, made the victory over antisemitism part of a sacred script.

  38. shabnam said on September 3rd, 2010 at 12:13am #

    Mary:

    Thank you for your comment. You are right, these stooges never learn, thus, we have to be united more than ever against the criminals to expose them every day. According to opinion poll, the Arab
    Population wants Iran to have the bomb, not of course the Arab head of states who are nothing but puppets. Frankly, I think the same, otherwise Iran is not protected. If you see Blair, please slap on his dirty face.

  39. shabnam said on September 3rd, 2010 at 12:16am #

    {Defeating an antisemitic state such as the Third Reich, and subsequently rising to economic prominence from this victory, made the victory over antisemitism part of a sacred script.}

    This does not make sense.

    The reason behind WWII was not ‘Anti-Semitism’ or because Hitler wanted to destroy the Jews. This lies are spread around by the Zionist propaganda to dilute their war crime activities against the indigenous population of Palestine. During WWII more than 56 Million people lost their lives. More than 400,000 Gypsy lost their lives. So it was not limited to Jews.
    The main reason behind WWII was expansionism, like the fascist of today, the American Empire. Hitler and other nationalists were angry to the outcome of WWI because Germany was humiliated and lost huge amount of territories. After WWI, the German state had lost land to Lithuania, France, Poland, and Denmark, therefore, Hitler wanted to set things ‘right’. Hitler believed the Treaty of Versailles was unjust to ‘chosen people’ the Germans. We have the same situation today, the Zionists and American expansionists based on racist mentality ‘American exceptionalism’, and Zionist myth, ‘ the chosen people’ who want to force the Iran cage, ‘world government’ on the rest of the population where we never accept.

    The Treaty of Versailles placed the blame on Germany and Austria-Hungary, and punished them for their “responsibility”. The treaty resulted in harsh monetary reparations, millions of Germans turned into minorities in neighboring countries, territorial dismemberment, mass ethnic resettlements, similar to what the control British Empire did to Ottoman Empire.

    The Control British Empire, by Rothschild, wanted Palestine for the ‘chosen people’; therefore, they went after Abdulhamid, the ruler of Ottoman Empire who dared to resist the vicious plan of Zionist Jews thus, did not allow the Jews settle there or be able to buy land in Palestine. Herzl tried to buy Abdulhamid with Jewish financial resources to allow immigration of Jews to Palestine and be able to buy property there. Herzl promised to pay Ottoman’s debt to Europe in addition to other financial assistance where Abdulhamid refused. Then the controlled British Empire could not find any other solution except to play the destabilization plan for the breakup of the empire to bring ‘regime change’ where the Jews of Salonika, as agents of the West, played an important role in the demise of the empire.

    The Jewish wealth and power is very much intertwined with Rothschild family rise to power due to their wealth. The Rothschild controlled the British Empire because they had control of supply of money.
    They rule the world since Napoleon defeat at Waterloo in 1815. The Rothschild had number of banks in major western countries, they had to develop a system of obtaining information where allows them to have access to news and information much faster than others. Therefore, early on, a courier service was set up. The Rothschild’s attributed their ability to have the news before any king or ruler to their carrier pigeons which flew as far as Rio de Janeiro. They received the news regarding Napoleon’s defeat first. When Britain won the war, the bonds increased in value higher than the face value, which provided Rothschild with a 20:1 return on his investment. This coup gave the Rothschild family complete control of the British economy, now the financial center of the world, following Napoleon’s defeat. Nathan Rothschild, now in essence controller of the new central Bank of England, said:

    “I care not what puppet is placed upon the throne of England to rule the Empire on which the sun never sets. The man who controls Britain’s money supply controls the British Empire, and I control the British money supply.”

    The Rothschilds financed Britain’s Anglo-Boer War for control of the vast diamond mines on Boer property. For that, Nathaniel Rothschild in 1885 was given the title of Lord Rothschild. As the following link explains:

    {In short, the Rothschild’s created modern banking, international banking, global bonds, and every other type of finance available. Today, they are busy “privatizing” the assets of the world and taking control of toll roads, water companies, electric companies, space, infrastructure, etc. It is the central banking system that controls the monetary system of the world, as well as, the investors in the central banks, including royalty such as the King and Queen of England and other international bankers, of which the Schiffs, Morgan’s, Lazard Freres, and Rothschild’s are part.}

    The Rothschild was involved with the first Zionist Congress in Basel in 1897, and with the founding of the State of Israel, as well as financing it. Edmond de Rothschild worked closely with Lord Balfour and Lloyd George in getting the Balfour Declaration to create the State of Israel. Rothschild is the reason behind the power of Jewish wealth and power. Not all Jews are filthy rich, mainly those associated with this family and their extension.

    http://www.rense.com/general75/wrus.htm

  40. Jonas Rand said on September 3rd, 2010 at 12:24am #

    Shabnam where did you get that information? When did they poll the Arab population and they said Iran should have a nuclear bomb? As far as I know, not even Iranians are arguing that they should produce nuclear bombs. And should Arabs really even be instrumental in making decisions for Iran? Iranians are not Arabs, you know – two different ethnic groups.

    That isn’t what Mary said either; she simply said that Tony Blair was responsible for many abuses in Iraq, which are not isolated cases, and that he was rather hypocritical and despicable for beating the drums of war against Iran. Thank you for that, Mary – Blair is a war criminal and should definitely not be repeating unproven (and probably false, as the IAEA oversees, and very vigilantly, the nuclear activities of the Iranian state) allegations as a pretext for “preemptive attack” i.e. starting another costly, murderous war for oil that we DO NOT NEED (neither the war nor the fossil fuel addiction)!

  41. shabnam said on September 3rd, 2010 at 12:39am #

    Jonas Rand:
    Mary wrote:

    [Yesterday he was advocating a military offensive on Iran.]
    Please read carefully.

    According to Shibley Telhami and Zogby poll:

    {According to our polling, a majority of Arabs do not believe Iran’s claim that it is merely pursuing a peaceful nuclear program. But an overwhelming majority believe that Iran has the right to develop nuclear weapons and should not be pressured by the international community to curtail its program. Even more telling, a majority of those polled this year say that if Iran were to acquire nuclear weapons, the outcome would be positive for the Middle East. In 2009, only 29% of respondents viewed that as a positive.}

    http://freedomsyndicate.com/mayfair/latimes058.htm

  42. Jonas Rand said on September 3rd, 2010 at 1:06am #

    Thanks for that link Shabnam. I stand corrected. That is interesting, though. Is it possible that Israel’s possession of nuclear weapons and their increasing hostility towards Middle Eastern Muslims and Palestinians in general since Cast Lead has influenced Arab opinion? Or is it because that they think it is a justified means of protection and could be used for self-defense because Israel also has nuclear weapons and is making threats against Iran?

    Personally, I think the Middle East and really the entire world should be a nuclear free zone, and neither Iran nor Israel have weapons. It could be true that the Arab population would agree, and that if Israel would not have nuclear weapons and the USA wasn’t threatening it with war, they might not think it is justified for Iran to develop a nuclear bomb. Nuclear weapons should have never been developed and we need action (not just talk from Obama and other heads of state but no real moves towards peace) on the part of powerful, wealthy nations to end the use of nuclear weapons. Also, if the Iranian nuclear testing is not peaceful, then why hasn’t the IAEA noticed? I don’t see why they believe that. Iranians are not Arabs either, so why should their opinion judge what is best for Iran?

  43. shabnam said on September 3rd, 2010 at 1:28am #

    {Also, if the Iranian nuclear testing is not peaceful, then why hasn’t the IAEA noticed? I don’t see why they believe that.}

    They know, Israel and the West, Iran does not have a nuclear weapon program but they target Iran for regime change and partition of Iran to help to erect ‘greater Israel’ which goes from Mauritania to Afghanistan, including Sudan.
    This project has nothing to do being an Arab or not, because Turkey, Iran, Afghanistan are on the table. Majority of Arab countries are targeted including Egypt, even Saudi Arabia.
    You should read Oded Yinon and A clean Break.

    http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=15858

  44. mary said on September 3rd, 2010 at 2:03am #

    These are Blair’s words on 1st Sept when ‘interviewed’ by the tapeworm Marr.

    Note the lie within**

    On Iran
    BLAIR: I am saying that I think it is wholly unacceptable for Iran to have nuclear weapons capability.
    MARR: But what can we do about it?
    BLAIR: And, um, and um I think we’ve got to be prepared to confront them, er
    MARR: Militarily?
    BLAIR: If necessarily militarily
    MARR: Militarily?
    BLAIR: If necessary militarily. I – I think there is no alternative to that um *if they continue to develop nuclear weapons* and they need to get that message loud and clear.

    The site is an unpleasant right wing hideout. The inhabitants will have loved hearing Bliar’s words.
    http://conservativehome.blogs.com/leftwatch/2010/09/highlights-of-andrew-marrs-interview-with-tony-blair.html)

  45. Mulga Mumblebrain said on September 3rd, 2010 at 9:54am #

    mary,the piece that caught my attention, when I was trying to ignore the evil psychopath, was his assertion that he had some sort of ‘premonition’ of John Smith’s death and his own ascent to power. The messianic delusions of this creep are familiar, but I felt a frisson of unease in hearing this. Is it really beyond the realms of possibility that this waste of carbon, who served the interests of the rich and the Zionists so slavishly, did not have a pre-sentiment of Smith’s demise, but forewarning?

  46. teafoe2 said on September 3rd, 2010 at 11:11am #

    Patrick, I think you exaggerate the piety of the Anglophile WASP traditionally dominant sector of US Big Bourgeoisie. “…the script of Providence. Defeating an antisemitic state such as the Third Reich, and subsequently rising to economic prominence from this victory, made the victory over antisemitism part of a sacred script.”

    I have concluded after much puzzlement that the emergence of the ZPC to its present hegemaniacal position atop the imperialist power pyramid is a classic illustration of the principle of “overdetermination”. That is, the ZPC’s ascent to the pinnacle of power was not the result of any single cause or factor; rather it came about through the simultaneous operation of several factors.
    To list them and compare their relative impacts, shares of the “credit” (sic) is a larger task than I can take on this morning, especially since I haven’t thanked Mary, Shabnam & Mulga yet. And Jonas too, for posing questions that generated such informative answers.

    Oh: the concept of “overdetermination” comes from Louis Althusser & Etienne Balibar; cf. “Reading Capital” & “Pour Marx”. It’s become commonplace in Marxist/Marxism-influenced discourse.

  47. teafoe2 said on September 3rd, 2010 at 11:34am #

    Shabnam, I see you didn’t mention, in your list of countries targetted for destruction/dismemberment by the visionary would-be architects of an expanded Eretz Yizroel, Bangladesh or Indonesia. Any particular reason?

    Compliments on your quick rundown of the Rothschild role. Did you type all that off the top of your head? Impressive. All true of course, historical record.

    For some reason the Sassoon family seems to get a free pass from most examinations of background leading to the Balfour Declaration. cf. the pile they made in the India-China opium trade, their role in launching the Opium War, Sir Victor S.’ buddy-buddy friendship with His Majesty following death of Victoria. One of Sir Victor’s cousins or nephews married Alice Rothschild, in the British Aristocracy Wedding of the Decade.

    As soon as the “Jewish State” attained “international legitimacy” via UN Res 181 on Nov 29 1947, the entire Mumbai branch of the Sassoon family announced they were about to “make Aliyeh”, and moved out lock stock and barrel.

    But the Rothschilds, as you say, were and are the core of the Zionist money/power equation. Along with the US Federal Reserve & the BIS, “Bank for International Settlements”, the central banker’s Central Bank.

  48. shabnam said on September 3rd, 2010 at 5:40pm #

    teafoe2

    {For some reason the Sassoon family seems to get a free pass from most examinations of background leading to the Balfour Declaration.}

    No. Sassoon has been part of the Jewish plutocracy for the past few centuries. The Jewish plutocracy rules behind the scene. This was very much true in British Empire, and now American Empire. Zionism is definitely seeking world domination where should be defeated. The Jewish plutocracy marries within the tribe to keep the wealth under control.

    Sassoon married Aline Caroline de Rothschild in 1887 which linked their fortune with that of Rothschild family. The Queen Victoria and other members of the British monarchy, including Elizabeth, benefited from close relations they have with the Jewish plutocracy and became one of the rich families in the world. The British government was an instrument to expand the Jewish businesses around the world. Sassoon was involved in the Far East, and Rothschild family was active in Central Asia, oil in Azerbaijan, Iran. The Rothschild family had a hand in The British Oil Company, BP, and therefore, the coup MI6/CIA against Mosaddeq in 1953 was formed. Rothschild’s agent in Iran was Shahpoor Reporter, a Zoroastrian, where his father was at the service of Rothschild and Britain in India.
    The following link give interesting information:

    http://www.stormfront.org/truth_at_last/sassoon.htm

    The 99 year British lease on Hong Kong expired in July allowing the Red Chinese to take over. Hundreds of newspaper stories and TV reports have covered this event but not one revealed how England first gained control of Hong Kong! The truth lies buried in the family line of David Sassoon, “The Rothschilds of The Far East,” and their monopoly over the opium trade. Britain won Hong Kong by launching the opium Wars to give the Sassoons exclusive rights to drug an entire nation!

    David Sassoon was born in Baghdad, Iran in 1792. His father, Saleh Sassoon, was a wealthy banker and the treasurer to Ahmet Pasha, the governor of Baghdad. In 1829 Ahmet was overthrown due to corruption and the Sassoon family fled to Bombay, India. This was the strategic trade route to interior India and the gateway to the Far East. In a brief time the British government granted Sassoon “monopoly rights” to all manufacture of cotton goods, silk and most important of all – Opium – then the most addictive drug in the world!

    The Jewish Encyclopedia of 1905, states that Sassoon expanded his opium trade into China and Japan. He placed his eight sons in charge of the various major opium exchanges in China. According to the 1944 Jewish Encyclopedia: “He employed only Jews in his business, and wherever he sent them he built synagogues and schools for them. He imported whole families of fellow Jews. . . and put them to work.”

    Part of the profits went to Queen Victoria and the British government.
    In 1839, the Manchu Emperor ordered that it be stopped. He named the Commissioner of Canton, Lin Tse-hsu, to lead a campaign against opium. Lin seized 2,000 chests of Sassoon opium and threw it into the river. An outraged David Sassoon demanded that Great Britain retaliate. Thus, the Opium Wars began with the British Army fighting as mercenaries of the Sassoons. The Chinese Army, decimated by 10 years of rampant opium addiction, proved no match for the British Army. The war ended in 1839 with the signing of “The Treaty of Nanking.” This included provisions especially designed to guarantee the Sassoons the right to enslave an entire population with opium. The “peace treaty” included these provisions: “1) Full legalization of the opium trade in China, 2) compensation from the opium stockpiles confiscated by Lin of 2 million pounds, 3) territorial sovereignty for the British Crown over several designated offshore islands.

    Sassoon’s Use British Army to Drug An Entire Nation
    This gave the Sassoon’s monopoly rights to distribute opium in port cities. However, even this was not good enough and Sassoon demanded the right to sell opium throughout the nation. The Manchus resisted and the British Army again attacked in the “Second Opium War fought 1858 – 1860. Palmerston declared that all of interior China must be open for uninterrupted opium traffic. The British suffered a defeat at the Taku Forts in June 1859 when sailors, ordered to seize the forts, were run aground in the mud-choked harbor. Several hundred were killed or captured.
    In October, the British besieged Peking. When the city fell, British commander Lord Elgin, ordered the temples and other sacred shrines in the city sacked and burned to the ground as a show of Britain’s absolute comtempt for the Chinese. In the new “Peace Treaty” of Oct.25, 1860, the British were assigned rights to vastly expanded opium trade covering seven-eights of China, which brought in over 20 million pounds in 1864 alone. In that year, the Sassoons imported 58,681 chests of opium and by 1880 it had skyrocketed to 105,508 chests making the Sassoons the richest Jews in the world. England was given the Hong Kong peninsula as a colony and large sections of Amoy, Canton, Foochow, Ningpo and Shanghai. The Sassoons were now licensing opium dens in each British occupied area with large fees being collected by their Jewish agents. Sassoon would not allow any other race to engage in “the Jews’ business.”
    However, the British government would not allow any opium to be imported into Europe!

  49. teafoe2 said on September 3rd, 2010 at 6:03pm #

    Thank you Shabnam!

    However I would caution you against relying overmuch on Stormfront which I have categorized as a pro-Nazi racist enterprise. It is true that a lot of good solid information can be found on some of these pro-White Supremacy sites like that on in Australia hosted by that Winkler character, the Martillo site I mentioned and others. But you have to be careful.

    For instance, it is not true that “Sassoon would not allow any other race to engage” in “the Jew’s business”.

    This ignores the history of the Jardine-Matheison firm, which competed and collaborated in the opium trade with the Sassoon interests for at least several decades. J-M’s operations were at least roughly on the same scale as the Sassoons.

    BTW, typo alert: Baghdad is of course in Iraq, not Iran.

    But your capsule history of the Sassoon’s & their dope peddling is quite in accord with everything I’ve been able to find. Good job!

    BTW, the whole Sassoon Story from Moorish Spain to Morocco to Baghdad to Mumbai to the Kowloon Docks to London, Paris & New York would make a great movie, full of adventure, rags to riches, miraculous escapes, European Royalty, inscrutable Manchus, Redcoat musketeers, all the makings of an Epic by Cecil B DeMille:)

  50. Jonas Rand said on September 3rd, 2010 at 11:39pm #

    I don’t believe a thing that comes from Stormfront or any other neo-Nazi site, and I disagree with teafoe2 that “a lot of good solid information” can be found on racist hate sites. It is hard not to know that it is a Nazi hate site that promotes intolerance and prejudice, with an “Ásatrú” (not the real Ásatrú pagan religion, but a white supremacist corruption of such) or “Völkisch” Celtic cross (which never was German, btw) reading “White Pride World Wide”. Not only does it diminish your reputation and reliability, but it is unethical and wrong to promote such sites as comprising valuable and trustworthy sources of information. Also, one of the more notorious (and mainstream) white supremacist groups is the British National Party, which has actually expressed its support for Israel and against the Palestinian people. Fanatic Israelis and Nazis – closer than you may think.

    If you truly believe their hate-infused rhetoric (not all the information, but the twaddle that is interspersed with it), then you are advocating intolerance and prejudice. I would advise you who have that problem to rethink your beliefs and question whether you are committed to social justice or just looking for negative statements about “Jews” wherever you go to corroborate your ideas about world control by Jews. I heard on this site around 5 months ago from one commenter that while the Protocols of the Elders of Zion was a hoax, the takeovers by Jews of world economy and other things that the document purports to recruit people for are actually happening today. I just think that’s ridiculous. There are many well meaning people here, but please be sceptical about what you read elsewhere and another suggestion that I have is to check the other content of web pages you have never heard of, to see what their agenda actually is.

    Also, if teafoe2 is right about Martillo (who I have never heard of) that he is for imperialism and right-wing racism, then I suggest you be extremely vigilant about what he says as well. I didn’t see anything about him that indicated a racist on the Web, but teafoe2 has obviously heard of him which is more than I can say.

    Don’t completely ignore differing views, but try to keep a critical perspective and put everything in context.

  51. 3bancan said on September 4th, 2010 at 12:12am #

    Jonas Rand said on September 3rd, 2010 at 11:39pm #

    Jonas Rand is diligently honing his soft zionazi oratory skills. One can expect him to be the next zionazified US president’s speech writer in 1o-15 years…

  52. mary said on September 4th, 2010 at 12:26am #

    A funny on the radio this morning. Organized groups are secretly taking copies of Bliar’s book from the Political Autobiography sections in bookshops and placing them in the Crime and Dark Fantasy sections.

    The long awaited booksigning at Waterstones Piccadilly takes place next week. I hope that he will covered in a bucket of red liquid resembling blood. He was in Ireland on the Late Late Show last night on his way back from the charade in Washington. A glib salesman of books and wars.

    Interesting discussion on the Sassoons here. We had spoken of them and of their malign influence before.

  53. mary said on September 4th, 2010 at 12:32am #

    More of the BBC crapaganda. If only we had a Petras in the UK.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-11182225

    Radical Islam is the World’s Greatest Threat

  54. shabnam said on September 4th, 2010 at 5:54am #

    3bancan:

    I agree with you. I was not familiar with “Stormfront”. I search for the name of the author, but I could not find it. I did not know I should look at the link. The information given can be found in other articles with different writers. Beside, the information given in ‘stormfront’ can be found in other sites as well. Most of this information can be found in other articles. The facts remain that Sassoon family, like Rothschild family were associated strongly with the policy of the British Empire abroad where had deadly consequences on economy of many countries and their people.

    The Iranian people havebad memory with Sassoon and Rothschild family like Chinese.

    The Sassoon family along with other Jews left the Ottoman Empire and came to Bushehr (Persian:استان بوشهر), located in the south of Iran with a long coastline onto the Persian Gulf, in early 19th century. The head of Sassoon family died in Bushehr in 1930 and his eldest son David went to Bombay and open his business in 1832. Bombay was the second most important commerical port of British Empire. Many Jews migrated to other Persian cities, especially Shiraz and Esphehan.

    Abdullah Shahbazi an Iranian historian view the immigration of the Jews closely related to the following events in Iran:

    One – Formation of Babi movement originated from Bushehr port, where Jewish documents many times have referred to relations between the head of the movement and Jews from Blusher.
    At this time, Bushehr port was an important commercial center of East India Company, thus, had a lot of trade relations with Bombay- India.

    Second- The Sassoon Company and its agents in Iran many of whom were Jews who had adopted Islam, were the main group who had an important role in widespread opium plantation in Iran where had devastating consequences on the Iranian economy which led to famine of 1871. This famine let to the death of one third of the total population of Iran which in turn affected the economy as a whole. This British policy and its agent, Sassoon family, not only brought famine in Iran, but also in Bengal, 1874, Madras (India) in 1876. In general, the famine of this era was strongly connected to Opium plantation of the British Empire.

    http://www.shahbazi.org/pages/Coup1921_3.htm

  55. teafoe2 said on September 4th, 2010 at 12:48pm #

    Thank you Shabnam, for the link and your as-always informative remarks.

    In all my reading about the Sassoons I somehow never came across the history of their enterprises in Iran. BTW, typo alert: of course you meant “died in Bushehr 1830″, not 1930.

    Even before being expelled from Spain after the Xstian takeover the Sassoon elders had outwardly converted to Islam; in Morocco they occupied official positions, as they did later in Baghdad under the Ottomans.

    Jonas: don’t panic. don’t worry, we don’t believe everything we read until it’s been corroborated. sometimes I mention a source, like this Martillo, who isn’t entirely reliable, but who does come up with stuff never mentioned in the MSM or polite academic discourse.

    So “not trustworthy” does not always automatically equate to “not valuable”. To me, Martillo, Stormfront and others often present information which may not be entirely true, strictly speaking, but is of great heuristic value. hmm, I don’t think Martillo is necessarily as fascistic as Stormfront or as White Supremacist as Ziopedia, but I’d have to check more carefully.

  56. teafoe2 said on September 4th, 2010 at 2:17pm #

    Abdullah Shahbazi! wow! Thanks Shabnam.

    Except the page is in Persian/Farsi, I am alas monolingual, and neither the IE machine translator nor the “Babylon” program I downloaded solved the problem.

    I was able to pick up enough from title listings etc to see that his focus is precisely on stuff we need to know much more about. So if you have any ideas re how I could read his work in English, please let me know?

    Thanks again, Ciao:)

  57. teafoe2 said on September 4th, 2010 at 2:20pm #

    btw, that Babylon translator program is dangerous, don’t download it. I did, now can’t get it to stop posing as my Startpage.

  58. shabnam said on September 4th, 2010 at 3:43pm #

    teafoe2
    Thank you for your kindness. Yes, you are right, I meant 1830. Sorry.
    These Jews were famous as Baghdadi Jews who came to Persia in early 19th century. You can use Google translator to translate Persian into English. I have noticed though, the quality of translation is not as good as Arabic into English, but you may want to try it.

    Abdullah Shahbazi has done a lot of work on history of Jewish plutocrats and their involvement in Iranians politics, oil and banking industries in Iran and the Coup of 1953 against Mosaddeq where he has exposed the role of Shahpoor Reporter who was active as an agent on behalf of Rothschild family in Iranian politics, started as an English teacher at the royal court, against Mosaddeq using Iranian documents some documents left at the house of Shahpoor when he fled Iran for Britain at the time of Iranian revolution. Therefore, he has produced a lot of work on Rothschild, Sassoon and other Jewish families and their agents in Iran. He uses genealogy to reveal the connections among them. His research work under “Jew, Parsi plutocrats, British Imperialism and Iran” is best known to others and so far five volumes have been published in Persian but none in English. He thinks this work can go to nine volumes to be completed. To view his site, please go to the following link.

    http://www.shahbazi.org/

  59. teafoe2 said on September 4th, 2010 at 4:18pm #

    “Don’t believe everything you think.”

  60. mary said on September 7th, 2010 at 4:55am #

    These reports are significant I think. I am told that the special jet fuel has a life of 6 months.

    http://www.asianews.it/news-en/Israel-completes-preparations-for-an-attack-against-Iran-19349.html

    (www.debka.com/article/8997/)

  61. shabnam said on September 7th, 2010 at 6:02am #

    Mary:

    If I were you I would not trust DEBKA. It has been said over and over that
    DEBKA is Mossad propaganda face. It may be true or not but the fact remains: ISRAEL CANNOT ATTACK IRAN WITHOUT US HELP, otherwise, Israel would have done it long time ago and 95% of the zionist Jews in Israel and around the world would have support it. Fortunately, Israel CANNOT DO IT ALONE, that’s why the fifth column in America, the organized zionist Jews, is VERY ACTIVE to fool Americans once more. This time Americans cannot say we did’nt know. If they allow the zionist Jews drag them into another war, then that will be a prove to say that they are FOOLS, after all.
    Mary, BTW, thanks for the photo of Abbas sitting next to the war mongers dreaming alone, because there was no PARTNER to talk to. The following photo perhaps shed light on what kind of dream Abbas had..

    http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_O5OuU90ru-Y/SWZWsA2fkGI/AAAAAAAAC3s/DWntXsM7viY/s1600-h/17mideast.600.jpg

  62. mary said on September 7th, 2010 at 6:16am #

    Noted. What do you think about Asia News.it? It is an Italian site and can be read in English and Chinese. Some connection with the Vatican, see P.I.M.E.??

    http://www.asianews.it/news-en/About-us-127.html

  63. shabnam said on September 7th, 2010 at 6:19am #

    Many site coverd Debka in the past, including “globalresearch.ca”. I don’t know what do they think about debka now.

  64. shabnam said on September 7th, 2010 at 6:26am #

    Mary:

    Al Ahram believes Debkafile is close to Israeli intelligence:

    {The Israeli website Debkafile, believed to be close to Israeli intelligence, reported this week that Washington was planning to retain a number of US troops in Iraq “possibly as UN peacekeepers after the pullout which is due to start on 1 September.”}

    http://weekly.ahram.org.eg/2010/1009/re5.htm

  65. split said on September 7th, 2010 at 11:00pm #

    “Here’s an explanation of what bolshevik and menshevik mean.”

    “Bolshevik” means a majority, “menshevik” means minority,…