Comments on: In Lak Ech, Panche Be & Hunab Ku: The Philosophical Foundation for Raza Studies

By: Jonas Rand

Jonas Rand — Fri, 30 Jul 2010 07:44:08 +0000

Rehmat, that is very interesting because, much like Jews in Nazi Germany, immigrants in the United States are under subjugation and oppression from the USA and their unique indigenous culture (the only Native American cultures that had writing systems were Maya, which was the predecessor to the post-colonial settler state of Mexico) is under attack by racists. The more prevalent racism that exists in contemporary US society comes from the government treating immigrants, primarily people of color, like prison inmates, rather than rogue Neo-Nazi right-wing lunatics. If anything, Jews who know their history should sympathize with people of color in Arizona and understand when they compare “carry your identification at all times” with “Papers, Please!”

By: Jonas Rand

Jonas Rand — Fri, 30 Jul 2010 07:26:21 +0000

To clarify my above post: I do not mean that most Chicano/Chicana people peddle the ethnocentric twaddle known as “La Raza”, but that most of the people who do are from the USA. While I respect the struggles of minorities, I find “La Raza” comparable to the “New Black Panther Party” or other forms of African-American ethnocentric arrogance, as an example of the misguided appropriation of the language and ideas of oppressors (i.e., the Ku Klux Klan or the “League of the South”) as a way to fight back. People in Latin America do not use this retarded rhetoric, even if there are struggles by indigenous people (for example under the former Bolivian Hugo Banzer government). You don’t fight white racists, the crude rubbish that is the Neo-Nazi movement, and Jan “Papers Please” Brewer with the crude rubbish that is “La Raza”.

By: Jonas Rand

Jonas Rand — Fri, 30 Jul 2010 07:15:33 +0000

“La Raza” is a nationalistic concept promoted by Mexicans. I hate to rain on your parade, but I must say that it is also an ideology that rejects other nationalities and ethnicities and is unfriendly and, like nationalism itself, divides people. That being said, the rich culture of the Mexican Maya, which has nothing to do with the supremacist “Raza” Spielen, should be embraced by more Mexicans and indigenous people. Since when did sociological ethnic studies programs, intertwined with post-colonial studies, become transformed into “Raza Studies”?

Also, “Latino” is neither an ethnicity nor a so-called “race” (an archaic concept), but a way to describe people from Latin America who live in the USA, and a rather defective one at that. Latin America is a socially stratified society, and this hierarchy largely correlates to ethnicity. When Spanish conquistadores colonized, murdered and raped Maya and Aztec people, and African slaves were brought to América, they imposed a social hierarchy upon the people that is based on race and was meant to divide and conquer. When some Mestizos, Pardos and others arrived in the USA, I believe they identified themselves as “Latinoamericanos” — i.e., Latin Americans — only to be misinterpreted by people as “Latino” Americans. “La Raza” is an ideology which is mostly peddled by Chicanos and Chicanas, yet another form of that ubiquitous, always harmful notion known as ethnocentrism, which probably occurred because of a misguided attempt to use the racism of the oppressor to combat oppression.

By: teafoe2

teafoe2 — Fri, 30 Jul 2010 01:40:35 +0000

E Maien, K Tal Ese:)

Chale con los zionistas y los amigos de “israel”. Chomsky sta un tecolote. iEsta muy importante!! En Lak Ech, Maiz tambien muy muy importante. Vaya y mira la pagina de James Petras, Petras.Lahaine.org. ‘Sta bilingue.
Bueno suerte, tome mas suave, luego pues:)

By: Rehmat

Rehmat — Fri, 30 Jul 2010 00:45:03 +0000

Arizona’s new tough law against illegal immigration has prompted furious reaction from Jewish groups against Christian groups who oppose the law – for comparing the law with Germany’s Nazi era. Cardinal Roger Mahony, head of the LA Roman Catholic Archdiocese claimed that the law “encourages people to turn on each other in Nazi and Soviet-style repression”. Rabbi Marvin Hier, founder and dean of the LA Wiesenthal Center responded that comparison of the Arizona immigration law with Nazi era “diminishes (importance of) Holocaust“…….

http://rehmat1.wordpress.com/2010/05/24/anti-immigration-law-holocaust-racism-and-israel-lobby/

By: Maien

Maien — Thu, 29 Jul 2010 19:42:25 +0000

Thank-You! I am thankful that this information is posted here. This is the time period where those who continue to think and act in a polarised fashion (as the monotheistic religious training supports) may… just may understand that their perception and understanding of the world/earth is deficient. The deficiency supports and guides the whole culture in continuing their attitudes of dominion killing earth and humanity ever more efficiently. It is good to see this information on a site like DV. New -Agers used this info inappropriately. Understanding it intellectually yet never really applying it, to their lives or choices. I trust that some of the intelligent minds who visit this site may consider and learn more. that may also help to prevent the crazy ‘busywork’ that continues to plague western thought where fundamentals are forgotten. …like over 200 comments on a Chomsky debate. Anyone gonna write up some summarised conclusions on that one?