Comments on: Why Petraeus Won’t Salvage This War

By: Don Hawkins

Don Hawkins — Thu, 01 Jul 2010 10:04:12 +0000

Late Revolution I’m supposed to feel ashamed for using that term to off-handedly describe the people we attack. Here in the States it’s in the grocery store it’s at church it’s at your job it’s on TV a prison for the mind. Remember use the force for knowledge and defense never for attack. We don’t hear that to often on say the floor of the Senate do we.

It has always seemed strange to me… the things we admire in men, kindness
and generosity, openness, honesty, understanding and feeling, are the
concomitants of failure in our system. And those traits we detest, sharpness,
greed, acquisitiveness, meanness, egotism and self-interest, are the traits
of success. And while men admire the quality of the first they love the
produce of the second.
John Steinbeck

Oh and why do we attack the we being the greatest nation on Earth other greatest nations on Earth the real reason.

By: Late Revolution

Late Revolution — Thu, 01 Jul 2010 07:12:54 +0000

Boy, that ‘barely intelligent creatures’ bit really got to you, didn’t it, Don? This is where I’m supposed to feel ashamed for using that term to off-handedly describe the people we attack. I’m sorry, but at last check, the people of Afghanistan were woman-oppressing, mostly illiterate worshippers of a nonexistent deity who tells them strapping high explosives to their chests and waltzing up to a public gathering with their finger on the detonation button is the best way to grow and evolve as a society. Please. Save the goddamn political correctness, will you? I’ve listened to it in the corrupt media and everywhere else for twenty-five years now. There’s nothing wrong with calling a spade a spade. Of course, you’re one of those people who doesn’t bother grasping the point I was trying to make, but rather focuses on two words. Let me ask you this, Mr. Conscience of the World? Would you let one of those noble Afghani human beings stay at your cozy suburbanite house for a while? Let him watch the kids while you and the wifey go out for your once-every-three-months-God-how-we-hate-each-other-but-the-Lord-says-we-shouldn’t-get-a-divorce excursions into the safe part of the city? Doubtful. Because they’re not quite like us, are they? They’re savages, essentially. I’m not looking down my nose at anyone, here. Americans are selfish, greedy, and corrupt. Many people in this world are, however, just plain lower than people who don’t fasten bombs to their kids’ chests. Just friggin’ admit that, already. Small-minded people like you are the reason the United States is a nation of lawsuit-filing windbags.

By: bozh

bozh — Wed, 30 Jun 2010 15:49:54 +0000

Don,
The best american is an american of euro-asian ancestry. The worst american is an american of american [or turtle island as some say] ancestry; followed by americans of afrikan origin.
Only an few afrikans– who look like a baboon or a nappy ho and yelling like a bubba– are good americans.
The priosoners are worst off. But they are composed also of euro-asians and not just natives and multi-colorado afrikans.
Chinese in china, on the other hand, are just asians and that’s why euroasians hate them.
I, to be on safe side, say i am part zulu, zambesi, euro, zuni, shemitic, sumerian, roma, with cosa nostra connection.
People are in awe of that. I get lotsof respect and even admiration. I have also let CIA know of my ancestry. I now feel 159% safe! tnx

By: bozh

bozh — Wed, 30 Jun 2010 15:26:59 +0000

Don,
To bankster’s one dollar or ein taler given away = $1. 20. I said, “give away”, but if not return of $1.20, legs wld be broken. And u’d be lucky at that.

Y’am sure that every american who lost her/his home to the banksters and other crooks [WH-congress-judiciary-cia-fbi-army echelons] wld have preferred broken legs and arms over losing a home and thereafter wife, children, bed, etc.

I know, i know. There is no money in breaking legs; so, WH-congress avoid doing that. But there is bundle of money in just the shrubbery and trees around the house, let alone the house.
And u knew, didn’t u, that one old tree is worth $5k to lumber mills. The lesson is?
Never plant plants or trees on ur property because the WH might not then want ur property.
On our property; oops, my property i only keep stones, bats, bramble, pitch forks and the like….. tnx

By: Don Hawkins

Don Hawkins — Wed, 30 Jun 2010 13:59:57 +0000

Bozh that’s a tuff one how about viva Las Vegas and in so doing we must remember what happens to the wide-eyed observer when the window between reality and unreality breaks and the glass begins to fly? –Stephen King

Sociology 101 or maybe 202 at an institution of higher learning of course probably learn much more at say on the job training at say Goldman Sachs. The truth at Goldman of course is one and one is never two but thirty shocking to some at first.

By: bozh

bozh — Wed, 30 Jun 2010 13:20:43 +0000

US, via BHO, already received one Nobel Prize for peace. Now’s the time for another, because US soldiers are helping aborigines.
And after indigenous pop and US agree on what kind of help wld be given, US wld be ready for another Peace Prize.
But even after US receives a third Peace Prize, the natives may still not get their first one.

Red people are also waiting fr their first ever Peace Prize even tho they to have won peace there and not just euro-asians.
At least 20 US prezes deserve a Peace Prize for getting peace on turtle island. Geronimo, sitting bull, bald eagle, cochise, ohawahoha shld also get some mention.
What do u think don ab this? Remember that norwegians were the first americans. They arrived on turtle island ca 20-2k yrs ago. But not finding any people there to christianize, most left for europe. tnx

By: Don Hawkins

Don Hawkins — Wed, 30 Jun 2010 09:46:13 +0000

I just sent this to CNBC and in the subject box I wrote “the fools on the hill, four”. Did they read it you know I think they did in Asia and England and here in the States it’s early not that many people awake yet.

Hummm,

Yesterday on Fox new’s I watched intelligent creatures first James Inhofe who said cap and trade is dead you know the America people don’t want it. Then Glenn Beck started his show off with climate change is a hoax remember the e-mails and then went on to show his hockey stick of GDP. Then I got up early and watched red eye and people in there thirty’s and forty’s oh such intelligent creatures ever see it? Well the day is young so am wondering just today how many intelligent creatures will tell us how the world work’s and the best way to think. You have to admit just on the off chance we are headed into hell and to say cap and trade is dead that I think we all know is a joke on the human race just more of the watered down stuff knowing full well what’s coming down the track intelligent creatures are we? Well I will watch for more intelligent creatures today with my head to one side a little and my mouth open just a bit and watch in complete amazement am sure at some intelligent creatures and maybe just hear me me me along with that laughter of the Gods that seems to be getting louder.

A fig for partridges and quails,
ye dainties I know nothing of ye;
But on the highest mount in Wales
Would choose in peace to drink my coffee.
~Jonathon Swift

Give them hell today ye dainties as I have a feeling the chickens are about to come home to roost. Shocking, well if that’s what your thinking those are my thoughts too.

Don

By: Don Hawkins

Don Hawkins — Wed, 30 Jun 2010 08:50:32 +0000

Pointless war with barely intelligent creatures after another.

A most amazing thing to write. So here in the States we have intelligent creatures do we. To be truthfully honest am at a loss for words here so;

Our amazing intelligence seems to have outstripped our instinct for survival. We plunder the earth hoping that accumulating material surplus will make up for the profound, unfathomable thing that we have lost. Arundhati Roy

If advanced spacefaring aliens exploit resources like humans we’d better hope they don’t find us anytime soon. Hawking

Am going to take a chance here and say Hawking should have said spacefaring aliens as advanced is probably the wrong word.

By: Late Revolution

Late Revolution — Wed, 30 Jun 2010 06:26:54 +0000

I think our way of life would best be preserved if the American taxpayer weren’t sacrificing his social security to pay for one unwinnable and pointless war with barely intelligent creatures after another. And just perhaps if the United States’ wonderful club of corporations would start putting some technological research into solar powered vehicles rather than the latest app for a toy phone, our future and way of life might not rest in maintaining a gargantuan supply of oil. We also might not have a geyser of the shit turning the ocean into sludge.

By: VPK9

VPK9 — Wed, 30 Jun 2010 02:00:05 +0000

Not to be a downer with the realism, but we do need to take a pragmatic approach to this. The US, and much of the rest of the world, needs oil. The real reason why our governments are willing to commit troops to Afghanistan, as opposed to every other country in the world without a democracy, is because whatever happens, if we’re going to avoid a gargantuan economic catastrophe, we will need a steady flow of oil from the Middle East. So, the optimal solution is to create a stable nation with the situation of the general population being as good as possible, and international ties with the west. If we’re going to achieve this, we need to apply our efforts to nation building, and actually use psy ops to improve the public perception of the occupying forces. That means: don’t use drone strikes to destroy schools, build hospitals, schools, repair mosques & homes, etc. Show the people that when the US soldiers arrive, they will help the local population. When the Taliban show up, the Taliban blow up the school where your children were going to be educated, or attack the hospital where your family was going to get medicine. Actually operate in a humane way, and give the government some legitimacy. That strategy has the best chance of success, both to preserve our selfish, materialistic way of life, and to create the best possible nation for the Afghan people.

By: Max Shields

Max Shields — Tue, 29 Jun 2010 18:04:52 +0000

At the end of the day we have total devastation, civil wars created by US intervention, senseless and meaningless civilian killing. We have war crimes piled on top of one another from Korea to Vietnam, to Iraq, Somalia, 800 colonial outposts, US funded Israeli genocidal colonialists, Central and South America, US death squads around the globe, and Afganistan…and we’re noting that one of the butchers may “salvage” his “reputation”!?

O the madness!

By: bozh

bozh — Tue, 29 Jun 2010 16:52:49 +0000

Petraeus saved the war in Iraq? But only temporarily? This needs clarifcation; especially in view that ?ab one mn iraqis have lost lives and another 4 mn their homes and habitat.

What gareth may be saying is that fewer americans get killed there solely because US is paying sunnis not to fight americans.
Petraeus made progress? Again solely for americans!
Petraeus doubted the war in iraq? On which factor [s] or apodictic principle?
That it is not OK to wage a war u can’t win, but OK the ones u can win?
And not on the principle that no land has the right to attack another? And especially a land which posed no danger to US!
Proof being where? Not one american to date was hurt by one iraqi, even after enormous slaughter of innocent people in iraq!

Gareth must have been drinking or smoking s’mthing while writing such a piece.
Or not? In add’n, he’s much too much personalizing the two agressions; omiting the role of WH-congress-CIA-pentagon in both wars.

I think praising or blaming an individual for success and failures appears always as a misevaluation.
McChrystal has done the same thing. He blamed individuals instead of uncle. But, then, who ever did and lived happilly ever after?
How ab McArthur? tnx