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		<title>By: bozh</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2010/05/russia-america-rediscovering-realpolitik/#comment-67484</link>
		<dc:creator>bozh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 May 2010 18:23:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Eric,
but what wld have happened had USSR emplaced N-missiles all around US and US unable to reciprocate. What ab the possibility or even probability that of too many cripto-socialists entered politics or became party members.

For yeltsin to have won mayoralty in moscow, he had to have been a party member? Yet, he turned out to be as strong asocialist.

It also seems that vast number of croatian and serb communists were in fact strongly asocialistic. This was definitely a cause for break up of the country and serb and croatian efforts to augment their respective territories.

I believe that tudjman also wanted to grab a chunk of bosnia-hercegovina. I saw it that way and was quite unhapy ab it. But even croatian church was against it and croat offensive against bosniaks [muslims]

He gave up i think after, i suppose, he had been warned that if he grabs a part of BH, europe wld allow serbs to grab a chunk of croatia and BH.
In 92, just beforen serb onslaught against bosniaks, milosevic and tudjman met and worked out an agreement to divide bosnia. tnx

We&#039;ve had some cases in canada of crypto-socialism, as well. As ?lenin had said the best way to destroy  a party is to lead it.
Isn&#039;t that the case also with democratic party in US? tnx]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Eric,<br />
but what wld have happened had USSR emplaced N-missiles all around US and US unable to reciprocate. What ab the possibility or even probability that of too many cripto-socialists entered politics or became party members.</p>
<p>For yeltsin to have won mayoralty in moscow, he had to have been a party member? Yet, he turned out to be as strong asocialist.</p>
<p>It also seems that vast number of croatian and serb communists were in fact strongly asocialistic. This was definitely a cause for break up of the country and serb and croatian efforts to augment their respective territories.</p>
<p>I believe that tudjman also wanted to grab a chunk of bosnia-hercegovina. I saw it that way and was quite unhapy ab it. But even croatian church was against it and croat offensive against bosniaks [muslims]</p>
<p>He gave up i think after, i suppose, he had been warned that if he grabs a part of BH, europe wld allow serbs to grab a chunk of croatia and BH.<br />
In 92, just beforen serb onslaught against bosniaks, milosevic and tudjman met and worked out an agreement to divide bosnia. tnx</p>
<p>We&#8217;ve had some cases in canada of crypto-socialism, as well. As ?lenin had said the best way to destroy  a party is to lead it.<br />
Isn&#8217;t that the case also with democratic party in US? tnx</p>
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		<title>By: Mulga Mumblebrain</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2010/05/russia-america-rediscovering-realpolitik/#comment-67479</link>
		<dc:creator>Mulga Mumblebrain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 May 2010 17:34:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Russia and China are playing a wise game against the psychopaths of the crumbling US Reich and its Zionist controllers.  One would hope that the justified hatred that the US and Israel engender would have them mend their ways and seek a path to living in peace with their neighbours. Unfortunately the ruling elites in the US and Israel see themselves as superior beings, a higher form of existence that has the right to kill without mercy, to destroy whole countries and to defy the entire world, and threaten them if they refuse to bend the knee. They constitute the greatest threat to humanity ever, just at the time that mankind requires co-operation to confront ecological collapse and resource depletion. However,if, by demeaning and threatening every other state, but the few Western Quislings controlled by Zionism, these gangsters force the rest of humanity, led by China and other emerging powers, to collaborate to avert disaster and protect themselves, a nascent development one can see in the Brazil-Turkey-Iran engagement, then their belligerence and viciousness might lead to happy developments. A world free from the demented doctrine of Western racial and cultural supremacism cannot but be a better world than that which we currently inhabit.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Russia and China are playing a wise game against the psychopaths of the crumbling US Reich and its Zionist controllers.  One would hope that the justified hatred that the US and Israel engender would have them mend their ways and seek a path to living in peace with their neighbours. Unfortunately the ruling elites in the US and Israel see themselves as superior beings, a higher form of existence that has the right to kill without mercy, to destroy whole countries and to defy the entire world, and threaten them if they refuse to bend the knee. They constitute the greatest threat to humanity ever, just at the time that mankind requires co-operation to confront ecological collapse and resource depletion. However,if, by demeaning and threatening every other state, but the few Western Quislings controlled by Zionism, these gangsters force the rest of humanity, led by China and other emerging powers, to collaborate to avert disaster and protect themselves, a nascent development one can see in the Brazil-Turkey-Iran engagement, then their belligerence and viciousness might lead to happy developments. A world free from the demented doctrine of Western racial and cultural supremacism cannot but be a better world than that which we currently inhabit.</p>
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		<title>By: Rehmat</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2010/05/russia-america-rediscovering-realpolitik/#comment-67461</link>
		<dc:creator>Rehmat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 May 2010 13:02:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Since the USrael empire is on run in the Middle East - Russia has started re-establishing its old links with the remaining socialist regimes (Syria and Yemen) in the region plus mending its relations with its past adversaries (Turkey and Saudi Arabia). Moscow has been allying with Islamic Iran for its natural resources and to stop Tehran supporting Muslim resistance in Chechnya.

While, Russia as acknowledged to new regional powers (Iran, Turkey and Syria) - Obama is still licking Israel Lobby&#039;s feet.

Middle East’s new heavyweights
http://rehmat1.wordpress.com/2010/05/21/middle-east%e2%80%99s-new-heavyweights/]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Since the USrael empire is on run in the Middle East &#8211; Russia has started re-establishing its old links with the remaining socialist regimes (Syria and Yemen) in the region plus mending its relations with its past adversaries (Turkey and Saudi Arabia). Moscow has been allying with Islamic Iran for its natural resources and to stop Tehran supporting Muslim resistance in Chechnya.</p>
<p>While, Russia as acknowledged to new regional powers (Iran, Turkey and Syria) &#8211; Obama is still licking Israel Lobby&#8217;s feet.</p>
<p>Middle East’s new heavyweights<br />
<a href="http://rehmat1.wordpress.com/2010/05/21/middle-east%e2%80%99s-new-heavyweights/" rel="nofollow">http://rehmat1.wordpress.com/2010/05/21/middle-east%e2%80%99s-new-heavyweights/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Maxwell Black</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2010/05/russia-america-rediscovering-realpolitik/#comment-67454</link>
		<dc:creator>Maxwell Black</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 May 2010 05:39:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well done. Here is the work the author mentions in comments:
http://ericwalberg.com/index.php?option=com_content&amp;view=article&amp;id=169:the-qgood-guysq-lost-the-cold-war&amp;catid=41:culture-and-religion&amp;Itemid=94
and his comrade:
http://www.left.ru/inter/2003/oct/jones.htm

We need to rethink the meaning of the Cold War.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well done. Here is the work the author mentions in comments:<br />
<a href="http://ericwalberg.com/index.php?option=com_content&#038;view=article&#038;id=169:the-qgood-guysq-lost-the-cold-war&#038;catid=41:culture-and-religion&#038;Itemid=94" rel="nofollow">http://ericwalberg.com/index.php?option=com_content&#038;view=article&#038;id=169:the-qgood-guysq-lost-the-cold-war&#038;catid=41:culture-and-religion&#038;Itemid=94</a><br />
and his comrade:<br />
<a href="http://www.left.ru/inter/2003/oct/jones.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.left.ru/inter/2003/oct/jones.htm</a></p>
<p>We need to rethink the meaning of the Cold War.</p>
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		<title>By: efgh1951</title>
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		<dc:creator>efgh1951</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 May 2010 20:52:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[hi bozh,
you asked about whether gorby et al lost their nerve and gave up? it&#039;s a very complex issue, but it was more a faction of the soviet elite deciding life was too short and they wanted all the tinsle of the west. there was no political mechanism for renewing the spirit of socialism and people just took it for granted. i have written about this at my site &quot;The good guys lost the Cold War&quot;.

hi michael,
yes, when the going gets tough, the US true colours are revealed to its euro-vassals. maybe they will finally wake up and throw off their shackles. and their own banker elite (who always benefit no matter how bad things get). now if only the US people would do the same. sigh.

eric]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hi bozh,<br />
you asked about whether gorby et al lost their nerve and gave up? it&#8217;s a very complex issue, but it was more a faction of the soviet elite deciding life was too short and they wanted all the tinsle of the west. there was no political mechanism for renewing the spirit of socialism and people just took it for granted. i have written about this at my site &#8220;The good guys lost the Cold War&#8221;.</p>
<p>hi michael,<br />
yes, when the going gets tough, the US true colours are revealed to its euro-vassals. maybe they will finally wake up and throw off their shackles. and their own banker elite (who always benefit no matter how bad things get). now if only the US people would do the same. sigh.</p>
<p>eric</p>
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		<title>By: bozh</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2010/05/russia-america-rediscovering-realpolitik/#comment-67442</link>
		<dc:creator>bozh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 May 2010 18:11:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I do not know whether gorbachev was a socialist or not; however, i do not think he had been as gulity as asocialistic [fascist] yeltsin in hanging out the white flag to the West and US.
If gorbachev and his team had been fascist in ? &#039;89, one cld blame him for helping to destroy socialism building in USSR.
However, we don&#039;t know that soviet leadership abandoned socialism because of fear of evanescense in just minutes. It must have been a factor in proclaiming glasnost; which means, i think, speaking loud and freely.
Wld walberg elucidate us on this factor; i.e., fear of disappearing or being attacked? tnx]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I do not know whether gorbachev was a socialist or not; however, i do not think he had been as gulity as asocialistic [fascist] yeltsin in hanging out the white flag to the West and US.<br />
If gorbachev and his team had been fascist in ? &#8217;89, one cld blame him for helping to destroy socialism building in USSR.<br />
However, we don&#8217;t know that soviet leadership abandoned socialism because of fear of evanescense in just minutes. It must have been a factor in proclaiming glasnost; which means, i think, speaking loud and freely.<br />
Wld walberg elucidate us on this factor; i.e., fear of disappearing or being attacked? tnx</p>
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		<title>By: MichaelKenny</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2010/05/russia-america-rediscovering-realpolitik/#comment-67436</link>
		<dc:creator>MichaelKenny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 May 2010 17:03:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This a good analysis and a radical change from Mr Walberg&#039;s previous view that the American Empire was omnipotent, invincible and eternal! It &#039;s a bit exaggerated to say that the EU is &quot; teetering on the brink of financial collapse&quot; but Wall St&#039;s attack on the euro is another part of the US/Nato retreat. How could Wall St have been so stupid! The political ramifications of its attack are enormous! The US financial elite has openly attacked so-called &quot;allies&quot; and tried to wreck their economies! Instead of stampeding EU leaders, that attack has rallied them. They know they have been deliberately attacked. They know by whom. And they are fighting back. In other words, the worst case scenario from Washington&#039;s point of view. And any further attacks will only make things worse! Add the public humiliation of the Japanese PM to that and you can see that the US no longer has &quot;allies&quot;. It can obtain nothing without bullying and blackmail. Like Hitler after Stalingrad, the fight may go on for a while yet, but the outcome is clear. The WWII alliance broke up and spawned the cold war. The cold war alliance is now breaking up to create a new all-European alignment.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This a good analysis and a radical change from Mr Walberg&#8217;s previous view that the American Empire was omnipotent, invincible and eternal! It &#8216;s a bit exaggerated to say that the EU is &#8221; teetering on the brink of financial collapse&#8221; but Wall St&#8217;s attack on the euro is another part of the US/Nato retreat. How could Wall St have been so stupid! The political ramifications of its attack are enormous! The US financial elite has openly attacked so-called &#8220;allies&#8221; and tried to wreck their economies! Instead of stampeding EU leaders, that attack has rallied them. They know they have been deliberately attacked. They know by whom. And they are fighting back. In other words, the worst case scenario from Washington&#8217;s point of view. And any further attacks will only make things worse! Add the public humiliation of the Japanese PM to that and you can see that the US no longer has &#8220;allies&#8221;. It can obtain nothing without bullying and blackmail. Like Hitler after Stalingrad, the fight may go on for a while yet, but the outcome is clear. The WWII alliance broke up and spawned the cold war. The cold war alliance is now breaking up to create a new all-European alignment.</p>
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