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		<title>By: brianct</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2010/05/let-them-eat-twinkies/#comment-67555</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 23 May 2010 02:28:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&#039;The next time you’re in a Third World country, boil an egg just to marvel at that bright orange yolk. Their secret? They don’t resort to factory farming.&#039;

not quite true..the Bird flu &#039;epidemic&#039; was used by its creators, factory farms to push thru &#039;reforms&#039; to oust local backyard chicken farmers.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8216;The next time you’re in a Third World country, boil an egg just to marvel at that bright orange yolk. Their secret? They don’t resort to factory farming.&#8217;</p>
<p>not quite true..the Bird flu &#8216;epidemic&#8217; was used by its creators, factory farms to push thru &#8216;reforms&#8217; to oust local backyard chicken farmers.</p>
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		<title>By: linhdinh99</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2010/05/let-them-eat-twinkies/#comment-67554</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 23 May 2010 02:27:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The Bangkok Post, hardly a radical newspaper, comments on the the Reds:

For the reds, nothing has changed. They rioted then and now in April 2009 and May 2010. Their grievances remain unaddressed. What they see as injustice, including their systematic disenfranchisement through the judicial dissolutions of their poll-winning parties not once but twice, the banning of their politicians, and the street-based ouster of their elected governments in 2008, persists. Will these claims of injustice be accommodated by the pro-Abhisit coalition? If not, will the reds come to Bangkok in rage again? Or will they resort to underground activities, including an overtly armed insurgency, and establish their own Thailand away from Bangkok in enclaves of the North and Northeast?


Andrew Lam, an American writer, also explains:

[&lt;a href=&quot;http://newamericamedia.org/2010/05/thai-civil-war-cant-be-won-with-bullets-and-tear-gas.php&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;...&lt;/a&gt;]

For too long the city of Bangkok has floated in a kind of First World wealth – replete with sky trains, high rises, luxury condos and marbled mega malls – while its rural populace stayed stilted in the mud of Third World poverty. If anything, the greatest fiction the Land of a Thousand Smiles has managed to tell itself and the rest of the world is that it is a bona fide democracy. But what’s behind that infamous smile is an ancient feudal system that’s been built on the roan backs of peasants for a millennium.

More important, that system relied on the lower class&#039;s continual servitude and, in some way, their acceptance of a deeply embedded caste system in which reverence for the king, who is accorded god-like status, translated to the reverence for all folks in higher social strata. The caste and status consciousness, as construed by a simplified if misunderstood religious idea in which past karmic debts sent one to a permanent level of society, is so deeply ingrained that it is reflected in the Thai language itself.

However, that old superior-inferior fiction is eroding and eroding fast. In the last decade or so, what was once remote and rural has been integrated with the rest of the world, thanks in large part to the distribution of electricity to even the most remote areas – provided from sparsely populated Laos next door with its mega hydroelectric dams – which brought TV, radio and Internet and the cheap and ubiquitous cell phones, information being the true form of democracy. Those who once lived in isolated thatched huts are thus highly aware of the wide urban-rural gap, and they possess a deep and growing sense of injustice, which in turn undermined the status quo.

More important, it’s a populace that has become increasingly politicized, thanks chiefly to ousted Prime Minister Thaksin Shinawatra. A populist and a multibillionaire, Thaksin introduced effective policies that alleviated rural poverty by half in four years, and, equally enticing, implemented universal health care.

Born in the northern province of Chiang Mai, he also did something else that was unprecedented: He gave the long-suffering rural population visions for upward mobility and shared governance that broke the karmic yoke.

That didn’t sit well with the Bangkok power elite. Not only does it threaten to rewrite the old social order, it threatens to undermine Thailand’s very narrative of itself, its framework, and they reacted. Despite the fact that Thaksin won his second election in a landslide in 2005 with the largest voter turnout in Thailand’s history, they ousted him while he was traveling overseas with a military coup in 2006 and froze his assets. He was found guilty of corruption in absentia.

In December 2007, a pro-Thaksin prime minister was popularly elected to office in the general election. His victory was met by massive protests, this time by protesters wearing yellow shirts who disagreed with the election, claiming fraud. Members of the People&#039;s Alliance for Democracy (PAD), the “yellow shirts” chose the color to honor Thailand’s revered King Bhumibol Adulyadej.

Representing a more urban population – in many ways the educated and white-collar class – they blocked the airport for days and stranded nearly 250,000 tourists. The constitutional court, under pressure to get the country moving again, agreed with the yellow shirts and disqualified the pro-Thaksin prime minister.

Ever since then the Thai government has been busy clamping down on the media, harassing independent journalists, and shutting down Internet websites. But it’s all too late. Thaksin – perceived by some as the devil himself and by others as a national hero – is indeed a divisive character but he cracked open Pandora’s box, and the anger and rage that sparked and flew could no longer be contained.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Bangkok Post, hardly a radical newspaper, comments on the the Reds:</p>
<p>For the reds, nothing has changed. They rioted then and now in April 2009 and May 2010. Their grievances remain unaddressed. What they see as injustice, including their systematic disenfranchisement through the judicial dissolutions of their poll-winning parties not once but twice, the banning of their politicians, and the street-based ouster of their elected governments in 2008, persists. Will these claims of injustice be accommodated by the pro-Abhisit coalition? If not, will the reds come to Bangkok in rage again? Or will they resort to underground activities, including an overtly armed insurgency, and establish their own Thailand away from Bangkok in enclaves of the North and Northeast?</p>
<p>Andrew Lam, an American writer, also explains:</p>
<p>[<a href="http://newamericamedia.org/2010/05/thai-civil-war-cant-be-won-with-bullets-and-tear-gas.php" rel="nofollow">...</a>]</p>
<p>For too long the city of Bangkok has floated in a kind of First World wealth – replete with sky trains, high rises, luxury condos and marbled mega malls – while its rural populace stayed stilted in the mud of Third World poverty. If anything, the greatest fiction the Land of a Thousand Smiles has managed to tell itself and the rest of the world is that it is a bona fide democracy. But what’s behind that infamous smile is an ancient feudal system that’s been built on the roan backs of peasants for a millennium.</p>
<p>More important, that system relied on the lower class&#8217;s continual servitude and, in some way, their acceptance of a deeply embedded caste system in which reverence for the king, who is accorded god-like status, translated to the reverence for all folks in higher social strata. The caste and status consciousness, as construed by a simplified if misunderstood religious idea in which past karmic debts sent one to a permanent level of society, is so deeply ingrained that it is reflected in the Thai language itself.</p>
<p>However, that old superior-inferior fiction is eroding and eroding fast. In the last decade or so, what was once remote and rural has been integrated with the rest of the world, thanks in large part to the distribution of electricity to even the most remote areas – provided from sparsely populated Laos next door with its mega hydroelectric dams – which brought TV, radio and Internet and the cheap and ubiquitous cell phones, information being the true form of democracy. Those who once lived in isolated thatched huts are thus highly aware of the wide urban-rural gap, and they possess a deep and growing sense of injustice, which in turn undermined the status quo.</p>
<p>More important, it’s a populace that has become increasingly politicized, thanks chiefly to ousted Prime Minister Thaksin Shinawatra. A populist and a multibillionaire, Thaksin introduced effective policies that alleviated rural poverty by half in four years, and, equally enticing, implemented universal health care.</p>
<p>Born in the northern province of Chiang Mai, he also did something else that was unprecedented: He gave the long-suffering rural population visions for upward mobility and shared governance that broke the karmic yoke.</p>
<p>That didn’t sit well with the Bangkok power elite. Not only does it threaten to rewrite the old social order, it threatens to undermine Thailand’s very narrative of itself, its framework, and they reacted. Despite the fact that Thaksin won his second election in a landslide in 2005 with the largest voter turnout in Thailand’s history, they ousted him while he was traveling overseas with a military coup in 2006 and froze his assets. He was found guilty of corruption in absentia.</p>
<p>In December 2007, a pro-Thaksin prime minister was popularly elected to office in the general election. His victory was met by massive protests, this time by protesters wearing yellow shirts who disagreed with the election, claiming fraud. Members of the People&#8217;s Alliance for Democracy (PAD), the “yellow shirts” chose the color to honor Thailand’s revered King Bhumibol Adulyadej.</p>
<p>Representing a more urban population – in many ways the educated and white-collar class – they blocked the airport for days and stranded nearly 250,000 tourists. The constitutional court, under pressure to get the country moving again, agreed with the yellow shirts and disqualified the pro-Thaksin prime minister.</p>
<p>Ever since then the Thai government has been busy clamping down on the media, harassing independent journalists, and shutting down Internet websites. But it’s all too late. Thaksin – perceived by some as the devil himself and by others as a national hero – is indeed a divisive character but he cracked open Pandora’s box, and the anger and rage that sparked and flew could no longer be contained.</p>
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		<title>By: Rehmat</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2010/05/let-them-eat-twinkies/#comment-67553</link>
		<dc:creator>Rehmat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 May 2010 01:44:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The Red-shirts support billionaire Thaksin Shinawatra, who was convicted of corruption, murder and dictorial rule while living in exile in Dubai. The Yellow-shirts are the supporters of the current prime minister Abhisit Vejjajiva and the military coup in 2006 which dumped Thaksin. The military coup of September 19, 2006 – brought General Sondhi (a Muslim General incharge of military operation in Southern Thailand) who was about to be replaced by Thaksin’s cousin Chaiyasit Shinawatra as Army commander.

http://rehmat1.wordpress.com/2010/05/02/thailand-red-v-yellow-and-muslim-genocide/]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Red-shirts support billionaire Thaksin Shinawatra, who was convicted of corruption, murder and dictorial rule while living in exile in Dubai. The Yellow-shirts are the supporters of the current prime minister Abhisit Vejjajiva and the military coup in 2006 which dumped Thaksin. The military coup of September 19, 2006 – brought General Sondhi (a Muslim General incharge of military operation in Southern Thailand) who was about to be replaced by Thaksin’s cousin Chaiyasit Shinawatra as Army commander.</p>
<p><a href="http://rehmat1.wordpress.com/2010/05/02/thailand-red-v-yellow-and-muslim-genocide/" rel="nofollow">http://rehmat1.wordpress.com/2010/05/02/thailand-red-v-yellow-and-muslim-genocide/</a></p>
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		<title>By: brianct</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2010/05/let-them-eat-twinkies/#comment-67551</link>
		<dc:creator>brianct</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 May 2010 01:26:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[that theres been no comment from washington and that the MSM misreports if it reportesd the issue at all is no surprise...Thailand is a military dictatorship in the service of capitalism.
had this happened in Iran or Venezuela...yud have no end of freporting and  political invective from both parties]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>that theres been no comment from washington and that the MSM misreports if it reportesd the issue at all is no surprise&#8230;Thailand is a military dictatorship in the service of capitalism.<br />
had this happened in Iran or Venezuela&#8230;yud have no end of freporting and  political invective from both parties</p>
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