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		<title>By: bozh</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2010/04/rising-and-declining-economic-powers-the-sino-us-conflict-deepens/#comment-66786</link>
		<dc:creator>bozh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 May 2010 15:17:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I forgot to assert that people who have s`mhow-s`mwhen convinced most people that they are inferior to such `teachers-rulers` also have `taught` them to hate other peoples` ideas, values, lore, folklore, customs, dogmas while at the same time sanctifying theirs.

In this regard, US `teachers` were more successful than any other. Cld War was ab that. `Teaching` americans that soviet ideology is evil and their holy succeeded beyond `teachers` wildest dreams.

Once that was accomplished, `teachers` such as generals, fbi-cia, courts, congress, media people had a freedom to do any crime they chose to commit and vast number of people sanctifying or approbating them.
 
Of course, moses, jesus, and mohammed have deceived even more people; so, US finishes in fourth place.
But who knows? It might one day become numero uno! And especially if overwhelming number of commenters, analysts, and reporters continue to dwell solely on symptoms and disconnectedly from all other or any other symptom.
Had we not noticed that that`s what msm media does: pick on a person or an event-symptom only.
Goldman-sachs, bail out, `failure` in iraq, denial of medical care are mere symptoms. The cause or causes lie elsewhere. tnx]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I forgot to assert that people who have s`mhow-s`mwhen convinced most people that they are inferior to such `teachers-rulers` also have `taught` them to hate other peoples` ideas, values, lore, folklore, customs, dogmas while at the same time sanctifying theirs.</p>
<p>In this regard, US `teachers` were more successful than any other. Cld War was ab that. `Teaching` americans that soviet ideology is evil and their holy succeeded beyond `teachers` wildest dreams.</p>
<p>Once that was accomplished, `teachers` such as generals, fbi-cia, courts, congress, media people had a freedom to do any crime they chose to commit and vast number of people sanctifying or approbating them.</p>
<p>Of course, moses, jesus, and mohammed have deceived even more people; so, US finishes in fourth place.<br />
But who knows? It might one day become numero uno! And especially if overwhelming number of commenters, analysts, and reporters continue to dwell solely on symptoms and disconnectedly from all other or any other symptom.<br />
Had we not noticed that that`s what msm media does: pick on a person or an event-symptom only.<br />
Goldman-sachs, bail out, `failure` in iraq, denial of medical care are mere symptoms. The cause or causes lie elsewhere. tnx</p>
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		<title>By: bozh</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2010/04/rising-and-declining-economic-powers-the-sino-us-conflict-deepens/#comment-66781</link>
		<dc:creator>bozh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 May 2010 14:11:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[DB,
Both the slavery-serfdom-racism and the Cold War were effects of the first cause.
And, i postulate, the FIRST CAUSE  was the division of people inside a clan or group  and peoples into less- and more-valued humans and more-valued and less-valued peoples-nations.

The same dogma fuels wars and oppression today. Perhaps not all initiators of this evil believed what they preached but it did serve their aims.

The question  is, how ab 98% of americans cannot see this obvious fact? The fact that they are looked dwn on by own people and forced to look dwn on or depreciate other peoples or nations?

So, i suggest we confront the FIRST CAUSE and then its symptoms; which wld include our loss of palestine, iraq, af-pak and disproportionate influence of a handful of `jews` and other superich individuals.

Let`s not miss the fact that division of people of iraq, afgh`n, et al into less-valued and more-valued acts and acted against best interests of all people.
Thus one neeeds to confront amirs, aghas, kings, princes, sheikhs, imams, mullahs as much godlman-sachs, ceo, `zionists`, warlord.

They all maintain the first cause! tnx]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DB,<br />
Both the slavery-serfdom-racism and the Cold War were effects of the first cause.<br />
And, i postulate, the FIRST CAUSE  was the division of people inside a clan or group  and peoples into less- and more-valued humans and more-valued and less-valued peoples-nations.</p>
<p>The same dogma fuels wars and oppression today. Perhaps not all initiators of this evil believed what they preached but it did serve their aims.</p>
<p>The question  is, how ab 98% of americans cannot see this obvious fact? The fact that they are looked dwn on by own people and forced to look dwn on or depreciate other peoples or nations?</p>
<p>So, i suggest we confront the FIRST CAUSE and then its symptoms; which wld include our loss of palestine, iraq, af-pak and disproportionate influence of a handful of `jews` and other superich individuals.</p>
<p>Let`s not miss the fact that division of people of iraq, afgh`n, et al into less-valued and more-valued acts and acted against best interests of all people.<br />
Thus one neeeds to confront amirs, aghas, kings, princes, sheikhs, imams, mullahs as much godlman-sachs, ceo, `zionists`, warlord.</p>
<p>They all maintain the first cause! tnx</p>
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		<title>By: Deadbeat</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2010/04/rising-and-declining-economic-powers-the-sino-us-conflict-deepens/#comment-66772</link>
		<dc:creator>Deadbeat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 May 2010 06:31:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[bozh writes ...

&lt;i&gt;First of all, we shld posit all the salient traits of socalled zionism or, to save time, call it ‘zionism’. Its first and most profound trait is its connection to all land theft; being peculiar in some aspects of such panhuman behavior.&lt;/i&gt;

I want to make clear why confronting Zionism is of key importance to mobilization.  Bozh is correct to describe Zionism as &quot;land theft&quot; but my point is will that inspire people to speak out and mobilize.  IMO I think not.  In fact this is also why the pseudo-Left&#039;s dishonest &quot;war for oil&quot; canard is so ill-effective.  The reason being is that one can JUSTIFY both land and resource theft on nationalist ground.  If Americans believe land and resource theft are needed for its survival then the citizenry could be made to rally behind it.  The Cold War for example served NATIONALIST aims as well as resource theft that decimated the Native Americans and justified slavery.  

However what I think bozh misses in my approach is that RACISM has been a key struggle within the United States and while many analysis like the say that the Civil Rights movement was a &quot;failure&quot; it &lt;b&gt;did&lt;/b&gt; ALTER attitudes about RACE.  This aspect is still present in the United States body politics 40 years later.  This is why it is IMPERATIVE to openly express Zionism&#039;s to its RACIST underpinnings.  In 2010, racism is considered to be  REPUGNANT and Zionism is NOT associated to U.S. national interest  -- which is essentially the point of  Mearsheimer and Walt.

Zionism lack of association to U.S. national interest is a major reason that Zionists had to enlist Christians into their ranks and expand itself via religiosity.  However the weakness of this strategy makes Zionism VENERABLE.

Confronting Zionism and correctly associating Zionism to the trillion dollar wars in the Middle East will demoralize and weaken its connection to militarism.  In other words without Zionism it takes away THE main U.S. justification for the maintenance of its war machine.  It also opens the door to question the financialzation of the U.S. economy as well and Capitalism overall.

In addition confronting Zionism would display to minorities that the Left is SERIOUS about confronting ALL FORMS of Racism -- not just only when it is political convenience and when its suits a particular group or just for show.  It would definitely solidify the Left enabling the Left to tackle bigger and broader issues in a radical and trustworthy manner.

This is why it is high time to PURGE the left of the Chomskyites who have for the past 40 years kept activists in a state of profound confusion.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>bozh writes &#8230;</p>
<p><i>First of all, we shld posit all the salient traits of socalled zionism or, to save time, call it ‘zionism’. Its first and most profound trait is its connection to all land theft; being peculiar in some aspects of such panhuman behavior.</i></p>
<p>I want to make clear why confronting Zionism is of key importance to mobilization.  Bozh is correct to describe Zionism as &#8220;land theft&#8221; but my point is will that inspire people to speak out and mobilize.  IMO I think not.  In fact this is also why the pseudo-Left&#8217;s dishonest &#8220;war for oil&#8221; canard is so ill-effective.  The reason being is that one can JUSTIFY both land and resource theft on nationalist ground.  If Americans believe land and resource theft are needed for its survival then the citizenry could be made to rally behind it.  The Cold War for example served NATIONALIST aims as well as resource theft that decimated the Native Americans and justified slavery.  </p>
<p>However what I think bozh misses in my approach is that RACISM has been a key struggle within the United States and while many analysis like the say that the Civil Rights movement was a &#8220;failure&#8221; it <b>did</b> ALTER attitudes about RACE.  This aspect is still present in the United States body politics 40 years later.  This is why it is IMPERATIVE to openly express Zionism&#8217;s to its RACIST underpinnings.  In 2010, racism is considered to be  REPUGNANT and Zionism is NOT associated to U.S. national interest  &#8212; which is essentially the point of  Mearsheimer and Walt.</p>
<p>Zionism lack of association to U.S. national interest is a major reason that Zionists had to enlist Christians into their ranks and expand itself via religiosity.  However the weakness of this strategy makes Zionism VENERABLE.</p>
<p>Confronting Zionism and correctly associating Zionism to the trillion dollar wars in the Middle East will demoralize and weaken its connection to militarism.  In other words without Zionism it takes away THE main U.S. justification for the maintenance of its war machine.  It also opens the door to question the financialzation of the U.S. economy as well and Capitalism overall.</p>
<p>In addition confronting Zionism would display to minorities that the Left is SERIOUS about confronting ALL FORMS of Racism &#8212; not just only when it is political convenience and when its suits a particular group or just for show.  It would definitely solidify the Left enabling the Left to tackle bigger and broader issues in a radical and trustworthy manner.</p>
<p>This is why it is high time to PURGE the left of the Chomskyites who have for the past 40 years kept activists in a state of profound confusion.</p>
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		<title>By: dan e</title>
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		<dc:creator>dan e</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 May 2010 01:53:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Kudos to Hayate &amp; to DB for right on comments. I&#039;m in agreement that this is a really seminal analysis everybody should read carefully &amp; take a little time to consider. 
&quot;However&quot;, as the late Prof Irwin Corey once remarked, by dint of close scrutiny I was able to find a cpl points to quibble over. Maybe first I need to re-emphasize that I&#039;m in 99 point 9 pct agreement with Petras&#039; analysis. In fact I&#039;m bowled over by his encyclopedic knowledge and how he marshals so many facets into his synoptic view of global reality. Actually I don&#039;t really know if I disagree with him about any substantive question; I just see a cpl spots where I found myself wishing for more emphasis on certain aspects. 
In my opinion it is important to recognize, and to make sure the reader recognizes that the speaker, in this case Dr Petras recognizes, that the regime in power in China now DOES regularly violate the human &amp; civil rights of citizens in ways, to extremes &amp; on a scale that we seldom witness inside the &quot;Zone of the Interior&quot; (to use the DOD&#039;s term for US news market).
So while we may welcome the existence of a center of &quot;countervailing power&quot;, and even be led to ponder the relevance of &quot;popular front&quot; strategies, we need to be clear that the CCP/Chinese &quot;Communist&quot; (read Confucianist?)Party elite are a bunch of ruthless bastards, no less ruthless than any other bunch of bastards you may name, including the goddam Zionist bastards. 
The other point I think he could emphasize is that while it&#039;s been a while since the PRC engaged in taking over territory by military conquest, it is a fact that Tibetans and Uighurs are not Chinese. While the ruling circles in Tibet and in Eastern Turkestan may often have recognized some form or principle of Chinese suzerainty, until the post-WWII invasions by the &quot;People&#039;s Liberation Army&quot;, the Chinese presence in both regions was relatively negligible. If it is a violation of international law for the Zionists to move settlers into territory acquired by force, is it not equally a violation for the PRC to do the same thing? Because in both &quot;autonomous regions&quot; the locals have been/continue to be inundated with Han Chinese immigrants. 
This is not to urge US activists to fall into the trap of joining/supporting any of the organizations claiming to represent the interests of either colonized population, since all such movements are totally infiltrated by CIA agents &amp; stooges. My point is that China has a built-in problem trying to contain the inevitable consequences of having deprived two large population groups of what they traditionally have considered their inalienable rights. 
This is an additional source of secular instability the Chinese leaders will have to deal with for the foreseeable, along with the class-related structural instability Petras adumbrates and to which Deadbeat&#039;s comment lends useful emphasis. 
PS: I&#039;m not sure how wise was the decision of the CPSU &amp; Comintern to pursue the Popular Front strategy of joining up with Churchill to defeat Hitler. Yes Hitler was defeated, but look what happened afterwards. Stalin had a tendency to want to cut deals with people like Jiang Jie-shi instead of supporting Mao &amp; Co. (alas poor Borodin;) But I think we should be alert to take advantage of any split in the enemy ranks; if China or Mr Kenny&#039;s beloved EU really had the power and the will to become an obstacle to the US/ZPC militarists, I&#039;d certainly urge us all to give careful consideration to the possibilities. Unfortunately it doesn&#039;t appear that the EU has the power to resist US demands, not with Zionist flunkeys in power in all the main capitals. Consider the situation in the Congo, where former colonial power Belgium is not only powerless to resist Africom-based wars against Belgian/French/EU clients, but is now actively taking part in military/state terror campaigns aimed at eliminating French/Belgian/EU influence in the area.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kudos to Hayate &amp; to DB for right on comments. I&#8217;m in agreement that this is a really seminal analysis everybody should read carefully &amp; take a little time to consider.<br />
&#8220;However&#8221;, as the late Prof Irwin Corey once remarked, by dint of close scrutiny I was able to find a cpl points to quibble over. Maybe first I need to re-emphasize that I&#8217;m in 99 point 9 pct agreement with Petras&#8217; analysis. In fact I&#8217;m bowled over by his encyclopedic knowledge and how he marshals so many facets into his synoptic view of global reality. Actually I don&#8217;t really know if I disagree with him about any substantive question; I just see a cpl spots where I found myself wishing for more emphasis on certain aspects.<br />
In my opinion it is important to recognize, and to make sure the reader recognizes that the speaker, in this case Dr Petras recognizes, that the regime in power in China now DOES regularly violate the human &amp; civil rights of citizens in ways, to extremes &amp; on a scale that we seldom witness inside the &#8220;Zone of the Interior&#8221; (to use the DOD&#8217;s term for US news market).<br />
So while we may welcome the existence of a center of &#8220;countervailing power&#8221;, and even be led to ponder the relevance of &#8220;popular front&#8221; strategies, we need to be clear that the CCP/Chinese &#8220;Communist&#8221; (read Confucianist?)Party elite are a bunch of ruthless bastards, no less ruthless than any other bunch of bastards you may name, including the goddam Zionist bastards.<br />
The other point I think he could emphasize is that while it&#8217;s been a while since the PRC engaged in taking over territory by military conquest, it is a fact that Tibetans and Uighurs are not Chinese. While the ruling circles in Tibet and in Eastern Turkestan may often have recognized some form or principle of Chinese suzerainty, until the post-WWII invasions by the &#8220;People&#8217;s Liberation Army&#8221;, the Chinese presence in both regions was relatively negligible. If it is a violation of international law for the Zionists to move settlers into territory acquired by force, is it not equally a violation for the PRC to do the same thing? Because in both &#8220;autonomous regions&#8221; the locals have been/continue to be inundated with Han Chinese immigrants.<br />
This is not to urge US activists to fall into the trap of joining/supporting any of the organizations claiming to represent the interests of either colonized population, since all such movements are totally infiltrated by CIA agents &amp; stooges. My point is that China has a built-in problem trying to contain the inevitable consequences of having deprived two large population groups of what they traditionally have considered their inalienable rights.<br />
This is an additional source of secular instability the Chinese leaders will have to deal with for the foreseeable, along with the class-related structural instability Petras adumbrates and to which Deadbeat&#8217;s comment lends useful emphasis.<br />
PS: I&#8217;m not sure how wise was the decision of the CPSU &amp; Comintern to pursue the Popular Front strategy of joining up with Churchill to defeat Hitler. Yes Hitler was defeated, but look what happened afterwards. Stalin had a tendency to want to cut deals with people like Jiang Jie-shi instead of supporting Mao &amp; Co. (alas poor Borodin;) But I think we should be alert to take advantage of any split in the enemy ranks; if China or Mr Kenny&#8217;s beloved EU really had the power and the will to become an obstacle to the US/ZPC militarists, I&#8217;d certainly urge us all to give careful consideration to the possibilities. Unfortunately it doesn&#8217;t appear that the EU has the power to resist US demands, not with Zionist flunkeys in power in all the main capitals. Consider the situation in the Congo, where former colonial power Belgium is not only powerless to resist Africom-based wars against Belgian/French/EU clients, but is now actively taking part in military/state terror campaigns aimed at eliminating French/Belgian/EU influence in the area.</p>
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		<title>By: bozh</title>
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		<dc:creator>bozh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 May 2010 00:26:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[First of all, we shld posit all the salient traits of socalled zionism or, to save time, call it &#039;zionism&#039;.
Its first and most profound trait is its connection to all land theft; being peculiar in some aspects of such panhuman behavior.

Theft of land, subjugation-expulsion of conquered peoples, etc., is a trait u&#039;l find in all conquests. Severity of repression of and warfare, crimes, against the conqurees varies in each conquest.
EG, conquest in america or palestine differs in the amount of cruelty magyars or bulgars may have inflicted on their respective conquerees, moravians and  slavs of present-day bulgaria.

One also cld compare a conquest of 3k yrs ago with world pop at 10mn or whatever and a conquest now with world pop at 6bn or 7 bn.
Zionism sans single quotes indicate only its uniqueness and not at all the sameness or similarities bwtn that kind of theft of land with other theft of lands.

Only now are we ready to talk ab zionism, americanism, germanism, japanism, russism! And we wld see thievery, deception, cruelty, oppression just ab everywhere and over the last 7 or 8k yrs. 
tnx]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First of all, we shld posit all the salient traits of socalled zionism or, to save time, call it &#8216;zionism&#8217;.<br />
Its first and most profound trait is its connection to all land theft; being peculiar in some aspects of such panhuman behavior.</p>
<p>Theft of land, subjugation-expulsion of conquered peoples, etc., is a trait u&#8217;l find in all conquests. Severity of repression of and warfare, crimes, against the conqurees varies in each conquest.<br />
EG, conquest in america or palestine differs in the amount of cruelty magyars or bulgars may have inflicted on their respective conquerees, moravians and  slavs of present-day bulgaria.</p>
<p>One also cld compare a conquest of 3k yrs ago with world pop at 10mn or whatever and a conquest now with world pop at 6bn or 7 bn.<br />
Zionism sans single quotes indicate only its uniqueness and not at all the sameness or similarities bwtn that kind of theft of land with other theft of lands.</p>
<p>Only now are we ready to talk ab zionism, americanism, germanism, japanism, russism! And we wld see thievery, deception, cruelty, oppression just ab everywhere and over the last 7 or 8k yrs.<br />
tnx</p>
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		<title>By: Deadbeat</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2010/04/rising-and-declining-economic-powers-the-sino-us-conflict-deepens/#comment-66762</link>
		<dc:creator>Deadbeat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Apr 2010 23:04:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Finally read this article from start to finish.  IMO this is perhaps THE most important and profound analysis of politcal economy in the last 10 years!  The is absolutely NOTHING like it that I&#039;ve read coming from the Left.   In fact the only other person I can think of who comes the closest is Gerald Celente -- and he&#039;s no leftist.

This article really ties ALL the thread together in an absolute NON-BIASED manner.  Many on the pseudo-Left clearly would obfuscate the influence that Zionism has today on driving U.S. militararism and well as its growing influence on the FIRE sector.  The psuedo-Left perfers the label &quot;corporations&quot; which is really too broad a term but broad enough to obscpure Zionist influence.  Confronting Zionism means confronting militarism.   This is the weak spot and the area where the Left could make a real dent in the empire.  The U.S. has always struggled with racism and Zionism is no different.  This is why it is important to confront such pseudo-Leftist such as Noam Chomsky who in fact has done more harm to prevent a real confrontation of Zionism thus in other words has helped to MAINTAIN U.S. militarism. 

Also Petras provides an excellent analysis of the class dynamics of China.  Class is why U.S. favors the rich and the FIRE sector.  Such a similar dynamic that could derail China&#039;s efforts as well.  I found this to be rather interesting. I found Petras analysis of China not to be one-sided and well balanced. 

In the long run however the U.S. is not in good shape and until there is an ideological shift its trajectory is heading for a downward spiril. It is definately a time and opportunity for radical thinking and analysis.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Finally read this article from start to finish.  IMO this is perhaps THE most important and profound analysis of politcal economy in the last 10 years!  The is absolutely NOTHING like it that I&#8217;ve read coming from the Left.   In fact the only other person I can think of who comes the closest is Gerald Celente &#8212; and he&#8217;s no leftist.</p>
<p>This article really ties ALL the thread together in an absolute NON-BIASED manner.  Many on the pseudo-Left clearly would obfuscate the influence that Zionism has today on driving U.S. militararism and well as its growing influence on the FIRE sector.  The psuedo-Left perfers the label &#8220;corporations&#8221; which is really too broad a term but broad enough to obscpure Zionist influence.  Confronting Zionism means confronting militarism.   This is the weak spot and the area where the Left could make a real dent in the empire.  The U.S. has always struggled with racism and Zionism is no different.  This is why it is important to confront such pseudo-Leftist such as Noam Chomsky who in fact has done more harm to prevent a real confrontation of Zionism thus in other words has helped to MAINTAIN U.S. militarism. </p>
<p>Also Petras provides an excellent analysis of the class dynamics of China.  Class is why U.S. favors the rich and the FIRE sector.  Such a similar dynamic that could derail China&#8217;s efforts as well.  I found this to be rather interesting. I found Petras analysis of China not to be one-sided and well balanced. </p>
<p>In the long run however the U.S. is not in good shape and until there is an ideological shift its trajectory is heading for a downward spiril. It is definately a time and opportunity for radical thinking and analysis.</p>
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		<title>By: Deadbeat</title>
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		<dc:creator>Deadbeat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Apr 2010 10:26:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[hayate you are absolutely correct.  No need for me to expand on your comments.  It&#039;s dead on.  And kudos to Petras for an excellent analysis.  This is an extremely important article.  Well done!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hayate you are absolutely correct.  No need for me to expand on your comments.  It&#8217;s dead on.  And kudos to Petras for an excellent analysis.  This is an extremely important article.  Well done!</p>
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		<title>By: hayate</title>
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		<dc:creator>hayate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Apr 2010 07:37:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This is one of the best articles I&#039;ve read recently.  Petras covers all the bases here.  A very well thought out, wholistic approach. This is left-wing analysis as it should be done.  It&#039;s this kind of comprehensive analysis which is missing from most of the zionist &quot;left&quot;. At least what I&#039;ve been seeing. They cant acknowledge the elephant in the room, so they go into illogical theoretical gymnastics in order to account for the elephant&#039;s presence and influence in order to attribute it to something &quot;safe&quot;. Or they break it up into small bits and don&#039;t connect them and ignore the elephant that way.  The role of the zionists is central to this.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is one of the best articles I&#8217;ve read recently.  Petras covers all the bases here.  A very well thought out, wholistic approach. This is left-wing analysis as it should be done.  It&#8217;s this kind of comprehensive analysis which is missing from most of the zionist &#8220;left&#8221;. At least what I&#8217;ve been seeing. They cant acknowledge the elephant in the room, so they go into illogical theoretical gymnastics in order to account for the elephant&#8217;s presence and influence in order to attribute it to something &#8220;safe&#8221;. Or they break it up into small bits and don&#8217;t connect them and ignore the elephant that way.  The role of the zionists is central to this.</p>
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		<title>By: dan e</title>
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		<dc:creator>dan e</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Apr 2010 23:23:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Let&#039;s see if Michael K will spring to the Pope&#039;s defense one more time:
* Attorney Uncovers Docs Implicating Vatican in Sexual Abuse Coverup *

We speak with St. Paul-based attorney, Jeff Anderson, who has filed hundreds of lawsuits alleging sexual abuse by priests and bishops since 1983. He filed a lawsuit last week against the Vatican in a Milwaukee court and wants the Church to release any files it has on sexual abuse cases involving priests. It was his discovery of previously undisclosed documents that fueled the latest wave of accusations leading all the way up to the Vatican.

Listen/Watch/Read
http://www.democracynow.org/2010/4/29/attorney_uncovers_docs_implicating_vatican_in

Kenny&#039;s comment is as usual nonsensical. He starts by asserting two mutually exclusive propositions in the same sentence, first praising Petras for recognizing the US Empire&#039;s limitations, then claiming Petras believes it to be omnipotent. In actuality neither proposition accurately reflects what Petras&#039; article says. 
In this piece Petras makes a detailed assessment of the strengths and weaknesses of the empire-building strategies being pursued by the Established Imperialist US and the very different one being pursued by the Chinese state. Nowhere does Petras state, claim or imply that the US is &quot;omnipotent&quot;. Indeed, his view is just about the exact opposite; his essay lays out in detail exactly how and why the US State is less powerful than the image presented in the US &quot;mainstream&quot; media &amp; conventional political discourse. 
Readers should pay close attention to what he says about the confluence of the US military/industrial establishment and the US financial establishment with the Zionist political power apparatus. 
Which reminds me: yesterday I ran across an article attacking those who like Petras work to expose the true lineaments of the Zionist Power Config., which was much more plausible than any of the, er, &quot;stuff&quot; certain trolls continue to post here on DV. So excuse me while I locate it; I&#039;ll try to post the strongest portions on this thread, then endeavor to deconstruct them. This seems like a much fairer way to proceed than to keep picking on the likes of Kenny and allies:)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let&#8217;s see if Michael K will spring to the Pope&#8217;s defense one more time:<br />
* Attorney Uncovers Docs Implicating Vatican in Sexual Abuse Coverup *</p>
<p>We speak with St. Paul-based attorney, Jeff Anderson, who has filed hundreds of lawsuits alleging sexual abuse by priests and bishops since 1983. He filed a lawsuit last week against the Vatican in a Milwaukee court and wants the Church to release any files it has on sexual abuse cases involving priests. It was his discovery of previously undisclosed documents that fueled the latest wave of accusations leading all the way up to the Vatican.</p>
<p>Listen/Watch/Read<br />
<a href="http://www.democracynow.org/2010/4/29/attorney_uncovers_docs_implicating_vatican_in" rel="nofollow">http://www.democracynow.org/2010/4/29/attorney_uncovers_docs_implicating_vatican_in</a></p>
<p>Kenny&#8217;s comment is as usual nonsensical. He starts by asserting two mutually exclusive propositions in the same sentence, first praising Petras for recognizing the US Empire&#8217;s limitations, then claiming Petras believes it to be omnipotent. In actuality neither proposition accurately reflects what Petras&#8217; article says.<br />
In this piece Petras makes a detailed assessment of the strengths and weaknesses of the empire-building strategies being pursued by the Established Imperialist US and the very different one being pursued by the Chinese state. Nowhere does Petras state, claim or imply that the US is &#8220;omnipotent&#8221;. Indeed, his view is just about the exact opposite; his essay lays out in detail exactly how and why the US State is less powerful than the image presented in the US &#8220;mainstream&#8221; media &amp; conventional political discourse.<br />
Readers should pay close attention to what he says about the confluence of the US military/industrial establishment and the US financial establishment with the Zionist political power apparatus.<br />
Which reminds me: yesterday I ran across an article attacking those who like Petras work to expose the true lineaments of the Zionist Power Config., which was much more plausible than any of the, er, &#8220;stuff&#8221; certain trolls continue to post here on DV. So excuse me while I locate it; I&#8217;ll try to post the strongest portions on this thread, then endeavor to deconstruct them. This seems like a much fairer way to proceed than to keep picking on the likes of Kenny and allies:)</p>
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		<title>By: commoner3</title>
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		<dc:creator>commoner3</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Apr 2010 23:12:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[In my humble opinion, the thinking that there will be a MAJOR conflict betwee China and the US, is pure nonsense.
The two countries are engaged in an embrace and caressing each other back.
If there is a conflict on the horizon, then why the US and allied countries&#039; 
corporations keep building manufacturing plants in China, and why China keep buying US Treasury Bonds from the US , with no sign that mutual exchange will stop any time soon??!! 
If the US and its allies stop buying the products of these manufacturing plants and move them some place else, then China will be in deep trouble with politically unacceptable high unemployment and consequent social unrest.
Now, China own about a trillion dollars in US Treasury Bonds and rising.
Also, China has a long way to go to catch up with the US immense military power and its huge economy. 
Of course, now and then, there will be small and short lovers&#039; squable between the US and China ,  but well into the foreseeable future, there will be NO MAJOR conflict.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In my humble opinion, the thinking that there will be a MAJOR conflict betwee China and the US, is pure nonsense.<br />
The two countries are engaged in an embrace and caressing each other back.<br />
If there is a conflict on the horizon, then why the US and allied countries&#8217;<br />
corporations keep building manufacturing plants in China, and why China keep buying US Treasury Bonds from the US , with no sign that mutual exchange will stop any time soon??!!<br />
If the US and its allies stop buying the products of these manufacturing plants and move them some place else, then China will be in deep trouble with politically unacceptable high unemployment and consequent social unrest.<br />
Now, China own about a trillion dollars in US Treasury Bonds and rising.<br />
Also, China has a long way to go to catch up with the US immense military power and its huge economy.<br />
Of course, now and then, there will be small and short lovers&#8217; squable between the US and China ,  but well into the foreseeable future, there will be NO MAJOR conflict.</p>
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		<title>By: bozh</title>
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		<dc:creator>bozh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Apr 2010 17:25:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It may be simpler than that. World fascists are spreading fascism or asocialism and china, cuba, bolivia, korea, vietnam, venezuella socialism.
So it wld be more accurate-adequate to describe the conflict as asocialism against socialism or planetarian socialism-egalitarianism against asocialistic planetarianism.
 
It seems to me that we can build only  two structures of   society: ideally socialist-egalitarian one and the other asocialist-inegalitarian.

Of course, there are sevarl countries whose societies are not as inegalitarian as that of india or US. But which way are they headed? tnx]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It may be simpler than that. World fascists are spreading fascism or asocialism and china, cuba, bolivia, korea, vietnam, venezuella socialism.<br />
So it wld be more accurate-adequate to describe the conflict as asocialism against socialism or planetarian socialism-egalitarianism against asocialistic planetarianism.</p>
<p>It seems to me that we can build only  two structures of   society: ideally socialist-egalitarian one and the other asocialist-inegalitarian.</p>
<p>Of course, there are sevarl countries whose societies are not as inegalitarian as that of india or US. But which way are they headed? tnx</p>
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		<title>By: MichaelKenny</title>
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		<dc:creator>MichaelKenny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Apr 2010 17:25:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Not a bad analysis of history, but it falls in to two classic American traps. First of all, while refreshingly accepting that the American Empire is neither invincible nor eternal, Professor Petras nonetheless continues to nourish the illusion of its omnipotence! Secondly, he fails to grasp that life is an eternally forward-moving process. In spite of the old saying, history does not repeat itself precisely because everyone bends over backwards to avoid a repetition of the past. The result is that they get caught up in situations they hadn&#039;t anticipated. With hindsight, history is always logical and often looks &quot;inevitable&quot;, but it rarely seems so at the time it happens. When those East German tourists headed off to Hungary on holiday in the summer of 1989, who imagined that they were going to pull a thread that would unravel the whole communist system and destroy the Soviet Union itself? Empires do die peacefully! The Soviet Empire certainly did! So why not the American one? With hindsight, we can say that communism committed suicide in Prague in 1968, but nobody thought that at the time (I&#039;m old enough to remember!). Thus, what history teaches us is that &quot;recent past history&quot; isn&#039;t an indication of anything. Whatever happens, it will be a surprise when it actually occurs. So the answer to Professor Petras&#039;s question is a resounding no!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not a bad analysis of history, but it falls in to two classic American traps. First of all, while refreshingly accepting that the American Empire is neither invincible nor eternal, Professor Petras nonetheless continues to nourish the illusion of its omnipotence! Secondly, he fails to grasp that life is an eternally forward-moving process. In spite of the old saying, history does not repeat itself precisely because everyone bends over backwards to avoid a repetition of the past. The result is that they get caught up in situations they hadn&#8217;t anticipated. With hindsight, history is always logical and often looks &#8220;inevitable&#8221;, but it rarely seems so at the time it happens. When those East German tourists headed off to Hungary on holiday in the summer of 1989, who imagined that they were going to pull a thread that would unravel the whole communist system and destroy the Soviet Union itself? Empires do die peacefully! The Soviet Empire certainly did! So why not the American one? With hindsight, we can say that communism committed suicide in Prague in 1968, but nobody thought that at the time (I&#8217;m old enough to remember!). Thus, what history teaches us is that &#8220;recent past history&#8221; isn&#8217;t an indication of anything. Whatever happens, it will be a surprise when it actually occurs. So the answer to Professor Petras&#8217;s question is a resounding no!</p>
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