THIS post won’t meet that criteria whatsoever… so I hope its optional. :)

Ok, those must must must “policies” that the author has proposed… MUST have a whole lot less MUSTS in them. We “must” ASK people to come to work on Team Earth, NOT “must” them into doing it. Lets not fall into the same trap as capitalism with its MUST get a job (servitudal duty) aboard that competer’s church OR ELSE. Or ELSE, or starve, or you’ll never get to own anything, or you’ll be unhappy, or you’re fired, or you’re terminated… those are all extortion. You can’t FORCE people with “or else’s”… that’s illegal.

And in #3, keep in mind that MANY will live off the fruits of others’ labor. Elderly, non-able-bodied, etc etc, “must” be lovingly and proudly cared-for (wellbeing’d). We love to adopt things… its easy to care for each other in communes. Ask the USA Team Military’s moneyless, ownerless, one-for-all, all-for-one supply’n'survival system. Those guys all take care of each other… all on the same “team” (commune). Shared luxuries/toys, too… via the military’s recreational services toy repository… equally shared by tribal elders and newbie scouts. No monetary discrimination! OMG!

Now over to Danny Ray. You, are super interesting, and although I didn’t totally understand what you were saying, it looks to me like you’re talking about communes and feeding the planet using such systems. And yes, it CERTAINLY can be a commune that’s e-wired together by the debris of a soon-to-collapse capitalism pyramid scheme-o-servitude and demented rat-racing festival. Why not? The routers are sitting there idling. After all, its Team Earth, and inventory management and resource distribution/tracking systems will be in FULL BEEF. The “World Needs” tv network will also be in full swing, and we “ables” watch it every morning to see where panic inventory levels are, so we can volunteer our brawn and expertise to fix that panic… voluntarily. No wages, no timecards… but you DO get ribbons/colors to wear on your Team Earth uniform when you respoind to panics… and so you are held in high esteem by mentor-seeking children and TV watchers. When you wear the colors of a highly-critical inventory need/dept such as Team Food division of Team Earth, you’re automatically a spearheader/elder/wiseman. You’re a hero, and the television cameras are all over you. The kids want to “be like Mike”… if Mike has lots of Team Earth hero ribbons. THIS… is the ONLY motivation/wages/profit to be had from laboring for Team Earth. The “profits” will come, because in giant team operations based upon caring and love… what goes around, comes around (spirography).

Inflation and bill-a-thons like capitalism, also show spirography. The more ya bill others, the more your own cost of living goes up, which means you have to bill harder, which causes your own cost of living to go up, etc. I think the capitalists call it growth/inflation, and its not overly smart to wish for the growth of cancerous tumors such as economies. Abolish economies and the man-made-up phenomena of ownership, immediately, gang. Hurry.

Ok, back with Farmer Dan. Um… I don’t believe that it is right to kill plants (or animals). SO… ponder feeding the population of the world (and its animals) with ONLY fallen fruits/nuts/grains, etc… and NEVER killing ANYTHING in order to eat it (we instead catch things in gentle “fall nets” beneath the plants). We CAN use animal meat when it has died of natural causes or old age… but NEVER any other way. So, the naturally-dead animals would likely be used to make seasoning powders at best… to help flavor vegetarian-ish dishes that we all eat in New America. I THINK… we can be about twice as healthy as we all are now… via eating ONLY fallen foods. I THINK… if we plant the world about 3/4 full of groves and orchards and the like… we can easily feed the entire planet, including the woodland critters and bacterial friends.

Now, NO MORE PICKING OR SHAKING! We “must” wait for the food to FALL, as the season’s name tells us to do. That means nets. Everything is vine-ripened, and thus… picking green and trucking stuff… is avoided.

And HOW do we get the food to the people IF we can’t truck it? We instead, move the people to the food, as the very smart herding/roaming animals do. AND… the people will live and love amongst the orchards, and must share the fruits with the woodland critters and insects… so we must be willing to eat partially-eaten fruits, nuts, seeds, grains. And you know where I’m going with this, yes? NO PESTICIDES! Also, we gotta be careful of our fertilizers. Boy, that was just packed with musts, and even a gotta! Yikes! I’m a fascist! :)

You say roaming human herds causes mass automobile/busing motor pollution? You bet. And so, we will be using these wonderful highways of ours… to carry great sailbuses and solar-powered-tractor-pulled LONG LONG LONG hayrides. Max speed on the interstate? 15 mph. We are no longer in any hurry, and slow road-trips would be very common. It would not be unusual for a trip across the United States… to take 4 months. No speeds faster than bicycles allowed, end of discussion. Its a “must”. :)

Wheeled sailing schooners, sail tractors, solar tractors, bikes, herds wisely moving to the food supplies, not carrying tons of owned things with them… only meaningful personal items like other roaming herds. Stuff will be available on the way, including un-waitered/waitressed food warehouses, sleeping provisions, toiletries, but not luxuries. Team Earth custodianed luxuries live in the luxury repositories for all to share equally… in moderation.

Danny, I got a plan. First we need to get rid of capitalism. Use the USA military’s criteria for differentiating a need from a luxury/toy, and generally model the whole she-bang like the USA military commune/socialism, or like the socialism seen with the USA public library system. All custodianships, no more ownership or money. Not a single other living creature on the entire Earth… uses economies or entitles of ownership. Such are man-made-up things… herd control devices… bandwagoning and railroading devices.

See, I told you it’d be a goofy illogical post. Or is it?

Want to get into the thing where we ponder the difference between nuts and seeds, and ponder if we humans would be getting in the way of plant proliferation if we eat the fruit of a plant that contained its seeds? I have done SOME research on the subject, and at least SOME seeds CAN pass through the human digestive system, and still remain fertile. So, at least under CERTAIN circumstances… seed shells are designed to withstand stomach bile and poopification. Yay lifeforms! Come crap in my garden!

Once when describing someone, my buddy Murel Kidd said “He’s okay, but he shits too close to his own house”. :) Well hell, in New America, it will be the “in” thing to do! Poopy Seeds!

But don’t go overboard, now, kids. I’m pretty sure burnt marijuana seeds will prove to be mighty infertile.

Wingnut
Anti-capitalism-ist in Michigan’s UP

As to what will happen to the 6 billion, or more, as we wind our way to carrying capacity (over the next 30 to 100 years)? First of all carrying capacity will be seriously challenged by the destruction of environment as the Great Many claw out the remaining calories – I think that .5 billion is quite a high estimate for the number that might remain; I am thinking more in the hundred million or less range. No reason to go into details here, it would not be pretty. But even if this is the most likely future, there is no reason not to live in the best way there is that at the same time supports the possibility of actually coming through is without an even more major extinction event.

And the THEM will always change things; to THEIR liking. US cannot change our minds because, methinks, we were told by THEM [for 10 k yrs] that the THEM are the annointed ones; appointed by god to lead THEIR sheeple; the US or sheeple being incapable of rational thought, proper behavior; who wld quickly revert to canibalism, disorder, murder, theft, incest, etc., if it wasn’t for the honest-wise-just watch people.

And US believed it- for 10-15 k yrs ago. And we believed the priestly-nobility story of how bad the barbarians that surround them are: they eat their young, have sex with their daughters, live in mud houses; know of no laws, tools, morality, order, culture, etc.

Oh, how bad are talibans, iraqis, palestinians! The words cannot describe how primitive these people are. Oh, how much they hate us! Our way of life, democracy, ideals, etc.
Nevertheless, only 95% americans believed it. The other 5% are traitors, etc.

But, the THEM in venezuella, vietnam, cuba appear to be majority of people in those countries. Fisrt time ever in recorded history. And these THEM people in those countries are hated with passion by the THEM in canada, US, india, pak’n, much of europe.
Why do THEM in US hate THEM in cuba? And mightily fear? Is it because these examplars [good models] threaten THEM. Anybody knows? tnx

It is not “we” who will do “something about “climate change”. It is the radical changing of climate with will radical change our living patterns, our community awareness, our cultures and economies. We are entrenched in the here and now and the change we need is out of our grasp; try though some of us might.

“You must unlearn what you have learned.” “Once you start down the dark path, forever will it dominate your destiny, consume you it will…”

Adventure. Heh! Excitement. Heh! A Jedi craves not these things.

“You will know (the good from the bad) when you are calm, at peace. Passive. Use the Force for knowledge and defense, never for attack. ”
Yoda

You know I like this one Bozh and Use the Force for knowledge and defense, never for attack. ” That’s defense and in the course of human events the defense has never been needed more. It will take a lot of us and so far that is not happening. Much knowledge now and we all have it use it.

Shld WE [keep im mind that we are not THEM] change the structure of society from an asocialistic to a socialist-gregarious one?
Do THEM want to do that? Are THEY aware that change is necessary to US? Or do THEY know this, but priviledge being an addiction-illusion, impossible to give up voluntarily?

Now, we need to find out who these THEM are and how many of THEM are there! Do these THEM totally or partially control cia, fbi, city police, drug flow, army, judiciary, congress, WH, media, schooling? And 98% of all wealth in US?
And how ab WE? We own 2% of america, ooo1% of army-cia echelons, judiciary, congress, etc.

Do WE writet laws? Who then writes them? THEM, of course! Against US and for THEM? How ab finding out of ab any of this?
Wld ever one of US be ever allowed on L.King show to pose these questions? more cld be said. tnx

But there’s one thing that I take a little issue with:

“We will have to accept not living long. The very notion that a long life is somehow a measure of a successful life is ludicrous. The only value that is positively spoken to by long life expectancy is general health and nutrition – both are quite positive but not because one lives long, but because each day can be lived with some adventure and accomplishment.”

However, the longer the life, the more good stuff that can be done with it. Though a long life that is crap is certainly not better than a short one lived well, but we should not diss long living either. Ultimately it’s the amount of good that matters.