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	<title>Comments on: The Collapse of Journalism/The Journalism of Collapse: New Storytelling and a New Story</title>
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		<title>By: bozh</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2010/03/the-collapse-of-journalismthe-journalism-of-collapse-new-storytelling-and-a-new-story/#comment-65742</link>
		<dc:creator>bozh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Mar 2010 14:38:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Don,
As u know people devalue some people. Nearly all of us devalue animals even nore while ?all of us treat the planet as a whore.
And while people devalue people and biota, some of them [?90%] overvalue their respective gods.
Most of them say-think: Let go and let god! By letting god think ab health of our planet, people don&#039;t know that this means letting priests think-take care of our planet.
And since ancient priests, to priests and their serfs, always know more than the modern priests, modern priests say: OK! Let us hit the &#039;holy&#039; books to see what they say! 
Well, i am not going to read them because ancient priests knew less than modern priests, but the gap in knowledge bwtn modern and ancient is just mms wide.
And they ?all bless BHO, truman, blair, constitution, WH, cia, generals

I&#039;ll just run for cover under my religion [relig&#039;n-god xy7] with congregation of one. So, i, too, say: let go and let god xy7!! That&#039;s democracy!  Btw, my wife also has her own god [god xy6]. This one is, as u can see, senior to mine! tnx]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don,<br />
As u know people devalue some people. Nearly all of us devalue animals even nore while ?all of us treat the planet as a whore.<br />
And while people devalue people and biota, some of them [?90%] overvalue their respective gods.<br />
Most of them say-think: Let go and let god! By letting god think ab health of our planet, people don&#8217;t know that this means letting priests think-take care of our planet.<br />
And since ancient priests, to priests and their serfs, always know more than the modern priests, modern priests say: OK! Let us hit the &#8216;holy&#8217; books to see what they say!<br />
Well, i am not going to read them because ancient priests knew less than modern priests, but the gap in knowledge bwtn modern and ancient is just mms wide.<br />
And they ?all bless BHO, truman, blair, constitution, WH, cia, generals</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll just run for cover under my religion [relig'n-god xy7] with congregation of one. So, i, too, say: let go and let god xy7!! That&#8217;s democracy!  Btw, my wife also has her own god [god xy6]. This one is, as u can see, senior to mine! tnx</p>
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		<title>By: Don Hawkins</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2010/03/the-collapse-of-journalismthe-journalism-of-collapse-new-storytelling-and-a-new-story/#comment-65740</link>
		<dc:creator>Don Hawkins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Mar 2010 10:45:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[ttp://www.latimes.com/entertainment/news/la-ca-ian-mcewan28-2010mar28,0,1295867.story

  Read this if you wish a book review and the ending not only of the book but this review is different. 

Did anybody see Ted Nugent on Fox New&#039;s yesterday or John and Palin in Arizona? Fasten your safety belts people the you know what is about to hit the fan. It is amazing to see just how far some can put there head in that very dark place and then say we love you we love you very very much. Then of course James Hansen wrote some new stuff.  Temperature analysis from James did you all happen to read it good data bad data and he had some other data of a different kind.


Governments are under the thumb of fossil fuel special interests -- they will not look after our and the planet&#039;s well-being until we force them to do so, and that is going to require enormous effort.&quot;
That quote and the way it was used require two clarifications.
First, the brevity of the quote leaves ambiguity about my meaning. As is clearer in the exchange below, and still clearer in the talks that I give, what I mean is that governments are not going to take the actions required to save our climate, the earth we live on, creation, for future generations unless the public applies pressure – enough pressure to overcome the pressure applied by special financial interests. In my talks I emphasize the need for young people to get involved and influence the older generations.

Time&#039;s Up! is going to be released in February by Green Books in the UK (and later in other countries) as an attempt to bring a small but significant chunk of the population into understanding that working with the system to prevent ecological meltdown is doomed to failure - the system *is* the problem and we are the solution.  James Hansen

       Attempt to bring a small but significant chunk of the population into understanding that working with the system to prevent ecological meltdown is doomed to failure - the system *is* the problem and we are the solution.

In my talks I emphasize the need for young people to get involved and influence the older generations. Hansen!  If you saw Nugent or John and Palin yesterday and a few more and nothing more than foolishness from the older generation I can see why James Hansen wrote what he did, shocking isn&#039;t it.  New story telling a new story.]]></description>
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<p>  Read this if you wish a book review and the ending not only of the book but this review is different. </p>
<p>Did anybody see Ted Nugent on Fox New&#8217;s yesterday or John and Palin in Arizona? Fasten your safety belts people the you know what is about to hit the fan. It is amazing to see just how far some can put there head in that very dark place and then say we love you we love you very very much. Then of course James Hansen wrote some new stuff.  Temperature analysis from James did you all happen to read it good data bad data and he had some other data of a different kind.</p>
<p>Governments are under the thumb of fossil fuel special interests &#8212; they will not look after our and the planet&#8217;s well-being until we force them to do so, and that is going to require enormous effort.&#8221;<br />
That quote and the way it was used require two clarifications.<br />
First, the brevity of the quote leaves ambiguity about my meaning. As is clearer in the exchange below, and still clearer in the talks that I give, what I mean is that governments are not going to take the actions required to save our climate, the earth we live on, creation, for future generations unless the public applies pressure – enough pressure to overcome the pressure applied by special financial interests. In my talks I emphasize the need for young people to get involved and influence the older generations.</p>
<p>Time&#8217;s Up! is going to be released in February by Green Books in the UK (and later in other countries) as an attempt to bring a small but significant chunk of the population into understanding that working with the system to prevent ecological meltdown is doomed to failure &#8211; the system *is* the problem and we are the solution.  James Hansen</p>
<p>       Attempt to bring a small but significant chunk of the population into understanding that working with the system to prevent ecological meltdown is doomed to failure &#8211; the system *is* the problem and we are the solution.</p>
<p>In my talks I emphasize the need for young people to get involved and influence the older generations. Hansen!  If you saw Nugent or John and Palin yesterday and a few more and nothing more than foolishness from the older generation I can see why James Hansen wrote what he did, shocking isn&#8217;t it.  New story telling a new story.</p>
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		<title>By: bozh</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2010/03/the-collapse-of-journalismthe-journalism-of-collapse-new-storytelling-and-a-new-story/#comment-65725</link>
		<dc:creator>bozh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Mar 2010 19:21:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Let&#039;s not wittingly complexify what is happening, let&#039;s say in india, an epitome of an iniquitous society, and solutions many countries seem to be working on.
First of all i offer this simplicity as a starting point for further study how and by whom are present structures of society are set; or to say it more adequately-accurately, imposed on us.
They are set up by priests and other  &#039;nobility&#039; and in order to obtain rule over lesser-valued people and obtain a greater share of the pie.
This simplicity is ignored by all MSM collumnists, priests, &#039;educators&#039;, pols, &#039;lawmakers&#039;, actors, singers, et al.

At least dozen countries in europe are now in a process of building a society that is midway [or so] bwtn an US society and an ideally-structured society.
But before we go on, we need to agree theoreticly at least that we can create an idyllic society that may or  may not take decades or centuries to complete.

W.o. such an agreement, all talk about a better society comes to an end. And jensen by saying that he nor anyone else has solution has closed the door to any further study-talk ab probable solutions.

And there are socialist lands which may be now setting up even a better structured-society than some now in europe. tnx]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let&#8217;s not wittingly complexify what is happening, let&#8217;s say in india, an epitome of an iniquitous society, and solutions many countries seem to be working on.<br />
First of all i offer this simplicity as a starting point for further study how and by whom are present structures of society are set; or to say it more adequately-accurately, imposed on us.<br />
They are set up by priests and other  &#8216;nobility&#8217; and in order to obtain rule over lesser-valued people and obtain a greater share of the pie.<br />
This simplicity is ignored by all MSM collumnists, priests, &#8216;educators&#8217;, pols, &#8216;lawmakers&#8217;, actors, singers, et al.</p>
<p>At least dozen countries in europe are now in a process of building a society that is midway [or so] bwtn an US society and an ideally-structured society.<br />
But before we go on, we need to agree theoreticly at least that we can create an idyllic society that may or  may not take decades or centuries to complete.</p>
<p>W.o. such an agreement, all talk about a better society comes to an end. And jensen by saying that he nor anyone else has solution has closed the door to any further study-talk ab probable solutions.</p>
<p>And there are socialist lands which may be now setting up even a better structured-society than some now in europe. tnx</p>
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