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		<title>By: Kim Petersen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kim Petersen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Mar 2010 17:59:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Marx,

Apparently viewing is not your strength. See: http://www.z-word.com/about-us/contributors/rhoda-kadalie-%2526-julia-bertelsmann.html]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marx,</p>
<p>Apparently viewing is not your strength. See: <a href="http://www.z-word.com/about-us/contributors/rhoda-kadalie-%2526-julia-bertelsmann.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.z-word.com/about-us/contributors/rhoda-kadalie-%2526-julia-bertelsmann.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Don Hawkins</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2010/03/israel-and-apartheid-is-it-a-fair-comparison/#comment-65043</link>
		<dc:creator>Don Hawkins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Mar 2010 10:53:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[http://www.businessweek.com/news/2010-03-01/drought-threatens-syria-economy-as-refugees-flee-parched-farms.html

  I think it&#039;s starting to happen.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.businessweek.com/news/2010-03-01/drought-threatens-syria-economy-as-refugees-flee-parched-farms.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.businessweek.com/news/2010-03-01/drought-threatens-syria-economy-as-refugees-flee-parched-farms.html</a></p>
<p>  I think it&#8217;s starting to happen.</p>
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		<title>By: mary</title>
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		<dc:creator>mary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Mar 2010 06:07:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[And Dershowitz approves too. Enough said.

http://cgis.jpost.com/Blogs/dershowitz/entry/filmmakers_and_writers_seek_to]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And Dershowitz approves too. Enough said.</p>
<p><a href="http://cgis.jpost.com/Blogs/dershowitz/entry/filmmakers_and_writers_seek_to" rel="nofollow">http://cgis.jpost.com/Blogs/dershowitz/entry/filmmakers_and_writers_seek_to</a></p>
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		<title>By: mary</title>
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		<dc:creator>mary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Mar 2010 06:00:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This Kadalie and Bertelsmann duo appear to shill for Israhell.

They have certainly been taken to the heart of Z Word. 

http://www.z-word.com/z-word-essays/franchising-%25E2%2580%259Capartheid%25E2%2580%259D%253A-why-south-africans-push-the-analogy.html

Ha! Z Word is an editorially independent creation of the American Jewish Committee (AJC). 

Founded in 1906, AJC is the USA&#039;s oldest human relations organization, with over 175,000 members and supporters. 
  
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This Kadalie and Bertelsmann duo appear to shill for Israhell.</p>
<p>They have certainly been taken to the heart of Z Word. </p>
<p><a href="http://www.z-word.com/z-word-essays/franchising-%25E2%2580%259Capartheid%25E2%2580%259D%253A-why-south-africans-push-the-analogy.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.z-word.com/z-word-essays/franchising-%25E2%2580%259Capartheid%25E2%2580%259D%253A-why-south-africans-push-the-analogy.html</a></p>
<p>Ha! Z Word is an editorially independent creation of the American Jewish Committee (AJC). </p>
<p>Founded in 1906, AJC is the USA&#8217;s oldest human relations organization, with over 175,000 members and supporters. </p>
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		<title>By: Marx</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marx</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Mar 2010 03:40:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Apparently reading is not your strength. Both Kadalie and Bertelsmann are described as two black South African women.  ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Apparently reading is not your strength. Both Kadalie and Bertelsmann are described as two black South African women.</p>
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		<title>By: Kim Petersen</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2010/03/israel-and-apartheid-is-it-a-fair-comparison/#comment-65038</link>
		<dc:creator>Kim Petersen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Mar 2010 02:57:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Marx,

What an inane comment. Who are Kadalie and Bertelsmann? And how is it that two White people know better than Black people, such as Desmond Tutu and Nelson Mandela, who suffered first hand under apartheid? Tutu and Mandela are unequivocal that Israel is apartheid. Nevertheless, it is worse because it is creeping genocide.

Do you think that merely because you quote two people from the oppressing class that their words invalidate the words of the oppressed?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marx,</p>
<p>What an inane comment. Who are Kadalie and Bertelsmann? And how is it that two White people know better than Black people, such as Desmond Tutu and Nelson Mandela, who suffered first hand under apartheid? Tutu and Mandela are unequivocal that Israel is apartheid. Nevertheless, it is worse because it is creeping genocide.</p>
<p>Do you think that merely because you quote two people from the oppressing class that their words invalidate the words of the oppressed?</p>
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		<title>By: Marx</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marx</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Mar 2010 02:34:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[As Rhoda Kadalie and Julia Bertelsmann, two black South African women whose families were active in the anti-apartheid movement, wrote:

Israel is not an apartheid state ... Arab citizens of Israel can vote and serve in the Knesset; black South Africans could not vote until 1994. There are no laws in Israel that discriminate against Arab citizens or separate them from Jews. ...South Africa had a job reservation policy for white people; Israel has adopted pro-Arab affirmative action measures in some sectors. Israeli schools, universities and hospitals make no distinction between Jews and Arabs. An Arab citizen who brings a case before an Israeli court will have that case decided on the basis of merit, not ethnicity. This was never the case for blacks under apartheid.&quot;

Kadalie and Bertelsmann are critical of Israel&#039;s policies in the occupied territories, but add:

&quot;Racism and discrimination do not form the rationale for Israel&#039;s policies and actions ... In the West Bank, measures such as the ugly security barrier have been used to prevent suicide bombings and attacks on civilians, not to enforce any racist ideology. Without the ongoing conflict and the tendency of Palestinian leaders to resort to violence, these would not exist.&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As Rhoda Kadalie and Julia Bertelsmann, two black South African women whose families were active in the anti-apartheid movement, wrote:</p>
<p>Israel is not an apartheid state &#8230; Arab citizens of Israel can vote and serve in the Knesset; black South Africans could not vote until 1994. There are no laws in Israel that discriminate against Arab citizens or separate them from Jews. &#8230;South Africa had a job reservation policy for white people; Israel has adopted pro-Arab affirmative action measures in some sectors. Israeli schools, universities and hospitals make no distinction between Jews and Arabs. An Arab citizen who brings a case before an Israeli court will have that case decided on the basis of merit, not ethnicity. This was never the case for blacks under apartheid.&#8221;</p>
<p>Kadalie and Bertelsmann are critical of Israel&#8217;s policies in the occupied territories, but add:</p>
<p>&#8220;Racism and discrimination do not form the rationale for Israel&#8217;s policies and actions &#8230; In the West Bank, measures such as the ugly security barrier have been used to prevent suicide bombings and attacks on civilians, not to enforce any racist ideology. Without the ongoing conflict and the tendency of Palestinian leaders to resort to violence, these would not exist.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: deceschi</title>
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		<dc:creator>deceschi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Mar 2010 21:49:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Israeli apartheid? 

 Little ponerology of Palestinian &quot;anti-apartheid&quot;:

&quot;Since we cannot defeat Israel in war; we do this in stages. We take any and every territory that we can of Palestine, and establish sovereignty there, and we use it as a springboard to take more. When the time comes, we can get the Arab nations to join us for the final blow against Israel.&quot; - Yasser Arafat, Sept. 14, 1993, Jordan TV.

The Oslo accords are comparable to &quot;when the Prophet Mohammed made the Khudaibiya agreement...we must learn from his steps...We respect agreements the way that the Prophet Mohammed respected the agreements which he signed.&quot;
Yasser Arafat - Palestinian &#039;President&#039;, Egyptian Orbit TV, April 18, 1998

&quot;We may lose or win [tactically] but our eyes will continue to aspire to the strategic goal, namely, to Palestine from the river (i.e. Jordan) to the sea (i.e. the Mediterranean). Whatever we get now cannot make us forget this supreme truth. 
- Faisal Husseini - PA Minister of Jerusalem Affairs
Al-Safir (Lebanon), March 21, 2001

&quot;There is not a single stone in Palestine that proves the [historical] Jewish existence [in the land].&quot; Sheikh Ikrama Sabri - PA-appointed Mufti of Jerusalem

&quot;We won&#039;t allow any Wailing Walls on our blessed land&quot;- Ismail Haniyeh about the destruction of the synagogues in Gaza after Israel&#039;s pull-out.

“ Israel can define itself however it sees fit; and if it wishes to call itself a Jewish state, so be it. But the Palestinians will never acknowledge Israel &#039;s Jewish identity….” - Salam Fayyad  Palestinian Prime Minister, from an interview with satellite station al-Arabiya.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Israeli apartheid? </p>
<p> Little ponerology of Palestinian &#8220;anti-apartheid&#8221;:</p>
<p>&#8220;Since we cannot defeat Israel in war; we do this in stages. We take any and every territory that we can of Palestine, and establish sovereignty there, and we use it as a springboard to take more. When the time comes, we can get the Arab nations to join us for the final blow against Israel.&#8221; &#8211; Yasser Arafat, Sept. 14, 1993, Jordan TV.</p>
<p>The Oslo accords are comparable to &#8220;when the Prophet Mohammed made the Khudaibiya agreement&#8230;we must learn from his steps&#8230;We respect agreements the way that the Prophet Mohammed respected the agreements which he signed.&#8221;<br />
Yasser Arafat &#8211; Palestinian &#8216;President&#8217;, Egyptian Orbit TV, April 18, 1998</p>
<p>&#8220;We may lose or win [tactically] but our eyes will continue to aspire to the strategic goal, namely, to Palestine from the river (i.e. Jordan) to the sea (i.e. the Mediterranean). Whatever we get now cannot make us forget this supreme truth.<br />
- Faisal Husseini &#8211; PA Minister of Jerusalem Affairs<br />
Al-Safir (Lebanon), March 21, 2001</p>
<p>&#8220;There is not a single stone in Palestine that proves the [historical] Jewish existence [in the land].&#8221; Sheikh Ikrama Sabri &#8211; PA-appointed Mufti of Jerusalem</p>
<p>&#8220;We won&#8217;t allow any Wailing Walls on our blessed land&#8221;- Ismail Haniyeh about the destruction of the synagogues in Gaza after Israel&#8217;s pull-out.</p>
<p>“ Israel can define itself however it sees fit; and if it wishes to call itself a Jewish state, so be it. But the Palestinians will never acknowledge Israel &#8216;s Jewish identity….” &#8211; Salam Fayyad  Palestinian Prime Minister, from an interview with satellite station al-Arabiya.</p>
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		<title>By: kalidas</title>
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		<dc:creator>kalidas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Mar 2010 17:05:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[israeli apartheid?

How about beyond apartheid.. (ponerology)

&quot;There is no such thing as a Palestinian people... It is not as if we came and threw them out and took their country. They didn&#039;t exist.&quot;
-- Golda Meir

&quot;This country exists as the fulfillment of a promise made by God Himself. It would be ridiculous to ask it to account for its legitimacy.&quot;
-- Golda Meir

And of course, spoken like a true psychopath, last but not least..

&quot;Israel may have the right to put others on trial, but certainly no one has the right to put the Jewish people and the State of Israel on trial.&quot;
--Ariel Sharon]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>israeli apartheid?</p>
<p>How about beyond apartheid.. (ponerology)</p>
<p>&#8220;There is no such thing as a Palestinian people&#8230; It is not as if we came and threw them out and took their country. They didn&#8217;t exist.&#8221;<br />
&#8211; Golda Meir</p>
<p>&#8220;This country exists as the fulfillment of a promise made by God Himself. It would be ridiculous to ask it to account for its legitimacy.&#8221;<br />
&#8211; Golda Meir</p>
<p>And of course, spoken like a true psychopath, last but not least..</p>
<p>&#8220;Israel may have the right to put others on trial, but certainly no one has the right to put the Jewish people and the State of Israel on trial.&#8221;<br />
&#8211;Ariel Sharon</p>
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		<title>By: brianct</title>
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		<dc:creator>brianct</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Mar 2010 06:49:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[israeli apartheid?

http://dissidentvoice.org/2010/02/white-lie/


just try tp ask for citizenship of the israeli nation...there isnt one,.just the jewish nation...THATS apartheid!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>israeli apartheid?</p>
<p><a href="http://dissidentvoice.org/2010/02/white-lie/" rel="nofollow">http://dissidentvoice.org/2010/02/white-lie/</a></p>
<p>just try tp ask for citizenship of the israeli nation&#8230;there isnt one,.just the jewish nation&#8230;THATS apartheid!</p>
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		<title>By: bozh</title>
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		<dc:creator>bozh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Mar 2010 15:53:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The fact is &#039;jews&#039; have no state of their own nor an israel. These appear as bad omens for all shemites with mosheic cult. 
The fact that white &#039;jews&#039; look dwn on all s[h]emites; i.e.,descendants of shem, according to genesis, further bodes unwell for them.

I do not know how many white &#039;jews&#039; speak or want to speak hebrew? I also don&#039;t know how many of them want to be known as hebrews? Hebrews were not  white; in add&#039;n, a vast number of them had been either slain or taken to captivity.
Israelites probably entirely melted away in mesopotamia, caucasus, iran. Judeans were also slain or fled for life to arab lands; mostly, because they spoke a shemitic language; which included arameic.
Arameans wer arabs who settled canaan ca 4k yrs ago. At that time, many canaanites were leaving canaan for assyria. Canaanites were leaving their habitat even earlier, ca 4.8k yrs ago and settling among sumerians and akkadians and eventually shemitizing all mesopotamians.

It was not at all the land of milk and honey as depicted by mad priests. A god cld have given hebrews that region only as punishment.
The mad priests just wanted to have their dominance over the serfs. And having nowhere to settle, the priests chose for them a wrecth of a land; too small; sans lakes, rivers, minerals, forest, games, etc.
So, there is not much prospect for these near-total dependencies on white &#039;jews&#039; and world plutos. When will the axe fall? tnx]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The fact is &#8216;jews&#8217; have no state of their own nor an israel. These appear as bad omens for all shemites with mosheic cult.<br />
The fact that white &#8216;jews&#8217; look dwn on all s[h]emites; i.e.,descendants of shem, according to genesis, further bodes unwell for them.</p>
<p>I do not know how many white &#8216;jews&#8217; speak or want to speak hebrew? I also don&#8217;t know how many of them want to be known as hebrews? Hebrews were not  white; in add&#8217;n, a vast number of them had been either slain or taken to captivity.<br />
Israelites probably entirely melted away in mesopotamia, caucasus, iran. Judeans were also slain or fled for life to arab lands; mostly, because they spoke a shemitic language; which included arameic.<br />
Arameans wer arabs who settled canaan ca 4k yrs ago. At that time, many canaanites were leaving canaan for assyria. Canaanites were leaving their habitat even earlier, ca 4.8k yrs ago and settling among sumerians and akkadians and eventually shemitizing all mesopotamians.</p>
<p>It was not at all the land of milk and honey as depicted by mad priests. A god cld have given hebrews that region only as punishment.<br />
The mad priests just wanted to have their dominance over the serfs. And having nowhere to settle, the priests chose for them a wrecth of a land; too small; sans lakes, rivers, minerals, forest, games, etc.<br />
So, there is not much prospect for these near-total dependencies on white &#8216;jews&#8217; and world plutos. When will the axe fall? tnx</p>
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		<title>By: Gary Zatzman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gary Zatzman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Mar 2010 10:49:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The AIM of an apartheid policy or apartheid-like policy is an issue as well, and it merits being addressed. 

Of course, there are apartheid-like features built into many specific policies of the State of Israel towards both its own 1-million-plus Palestinian citizens as well as regarding the additional approximately 3-million Palestinians residing in the Occupied Territories [OPT] under a Zionist jackboot [time to call a spade a shovel here, don&#039;t you think?]. They are measures that, one way or another, strip the Palestinians of meaningful rights, de jure or de facto. They take this rights-stripping to the extreme point of plunging the Palestinians into a condition that amounts to what is known as &quot;civil death.&quot; That is, the victims are left without any legal or political recourse within either the order maintained by the ordinary organs of the Jewish-Zionist state at home or within the order maintained by its military occupation apparatuses in the OPT. This much thus far is pretty similar to the white South African minority&#039;s designs for encaging the Black and Coloured majority between 1948 and 1990. 

The aim in South Africa was very clear. This majority was plunged into a condition of civil death so that their numerical advantage vis-a-vis the Afrikaner ruling order would be nullified. This would  render them without meaningful legal recourses or remedies against the impacts and effects of discriminatory policies. Where could you appeal within such a system? How could you counter its operation short of open rebellion against it? And once an individual begins such a course of resisting apartheid, it turned out to be no simple matter to sustain it, or to unify &#039;on the same page&#039; the very different forces compelled to resist it. Eventually it became clear that apartheid was about disrespecting any social rights or role for the vast majority having nothing but their labour-power to sell, so that the vast wealth of the country&#039;s mineral resources and agricultural resources could continue to be looted for the benefit for a tiny minority with minimal disruption.

One thing apartheid was not about however, was expelling the working population. The whole idea was to keep the working population utterly enslaved and without means to assert any rights --- &quot;civil death,&quot; in other words.

The Zionist AIM in Palestine from the moment of the movement&#039;s modern re-founding at its Basel Congress of 1897 was to destroy the people-hood of the indigenous Palestinian population and disperse them beyond the lands coveted by the Zionists. Theodor Herzl in his Diaries famously recorded the Zionist intention to &quot;spirit the penniless...discreetly and circumspectly&quot; across the borders of a future Zionist state into the neighbouring Arab territories.  The AIM of the JNF program was to leave the indigenous Palestinian without a leg to stand on or continue to anchor themselves in any piece of Palestinian territory.  

The modern definition under international humanitarian law of such dispossession, for example in the Fourth Geneva Conventions of 1949, is GENOCIDE. Every one of the same tricks developed in South Africa under National Party rule for rendering its working people in a state of civil death, plus many of their own were unfolded by the Zionist rulers of Israel against the Palestinians TOWARDS THIS AIM OF GENOCIDING THE PALESTINIANS. The aim was not to keep them around forever as an infinitely cheap labour force, but to drive them out for good.  

The simplest appeal of the call to oppose Israeli &#039;apartheid&#039; is the appeal to get into the struggle against racial discrimination, and all apartheid-like systems are lousy with such racially discriminatory rules. But the origins of  this approach to targeting an entire segment of people for civil death lie with imperial policies, whose aim was to boost the interests of imperial power. The tips and tricks applied by the National Party against Black and Coloured South Africans had already been developed by the British and some of the other &quot;white Dominions&quot; to genocide the indigenous native peoples so that grand imperial schemes like transcontinental railways and associated resource extraction schemes  could carve up indigenous native land. What the CPR and the RCMP had done to the indigenous peoples of wetern Canada was re-done many times over again by the National Party to the Black and Coloured najority, biut with the aim of keeping their labour power available and unable to resist.

So yes, there are many apartheid-like features in how the Zionists treat the Palestinians; there are also genocidal consequences that flowed from how  white Australian governments treated the Aborigines, how Canadian governments and transport and resource monopolies treated the First Nations. The National Party wasn&#039;t picky: there was gold and diamonds to be plundered in them thar hills. But the specific aim in Palestine of the Zionist program was to GENOCIDE the Palestinians from the get-go and that remains the aim to this day and this hour.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The AIM of an apartheid policy or apartheid-like policy is an issue as well, and it merits being addressed. </p>
<p>Of course, there are apartheid-like features built into many specific policies of the State of Israel towards both its own 1-million-plus Palestinian citizens as well as regarding the additional approximately 3-million Palestinians residing in the Occupied Territories [OPT] under a Zionist jackboot [time to call a spade a shovel here, don't you think?]. They are measures that, one way or another, strip the Palestinians of meaningful rights, de jure or de facto. They take this rights-stripping to the extreme point of plunging the Palestinians into a condition that amounts to what is known as &#8220;civil death.&#8221; That is, the victims are left without any legal or political recourse within either the order maintained by the ordinary organs of the Jewish-Zionist state at home or within the order maintained by its military occupation apparatuses in the OPT. This much thus far is pretty similar to the white South African minority&#8217;s designs for encaging the Black and Coloured majority between 1948 and 1990. </p>
<p>The aim in South Africa was very clear. This majority was plunged into a condition of civil death so that their numerical advantage vis-a-vis the Afrikaner ruling order would be nullified. This would  render them without meaningful legal recourses or remedies against the impacts and effects of discriminatory policies. Where could you appeal within such a system? How could you counter its operation short of open rebellion against it? And once an individual begins such a course of resisting apartheid, it turned out to be no simple matter to sustain it, or to unify &#8216;on the same page&#8217; the very different forces compelled to resist it. Eventually it became clear that apartheid was about disrespecting any social rights or role for the vast majority having nothing but their labour-power to sell, so that the vast wealth of the country&#8217;s mineral resources and agricultural resources could continue to be looted for the benefit for a tiny minority with minimal disruption.</p>
<p>One thing apartheid was not about however, was expelling the working population. The whole idea was to keep the working population utterly enslaved and without means to assert any rights &#8212; &#8220;civil death,&#8221; in other words.</p>
<p>The Zionist AIM in Palestine from the moment of the movement&#8217;s modern re-founding at its Basel Congress of 1897 was to destroy the people-hood of the indigenous Palestinian population and disperse them beyond the lands coveted by the Zionists. Theodor Herzl in his Diaries famously recorded the Zionist intention to &#8220;spirit the penniless&#8230;discreetly and circumspectly&#8221; across the borders of a future Zionist state into the neighbouring Arab territories.  The AIM of the JNF program was to leave the indigenous Palestinian without a leg to stand on or continue to anchor themselves in any piece of Palestinian territory.  </p>
<p>The modern definition under international humanitarian law of such dispossession, for example in the Fourth Geneva Conventions of 1949, is GENOCIDE. Every one of the same tricks developed in South Africa under National Party rule for rendering its working people in a state of civil death, plus many of their own were unfolded by the Zionist rulers of Israel against the Palestinians TOWARDS THIS AIM OF GENOCIDING THE PALESTINIANS. The aim was not to keep them around forever as an infinitely cheap labour force, but to drive them out for good.  </p>
<p>The simplest appeal of the call to oppose Israeli &#8216;apartheid&#8217; is the appeal to get into the struggle against racial discrimination, and all apartheid-like systems are lousy with such racially discriminatory rules. But the origins of  this approach to targeting an entire segment of people for civil death lie with imperial policies, whose aim was to boost the interests of imperial power. The tips and tricks applied by the National Party against Black and Coloured South Africans had already been developed by the British and some of the other &#8220;white Dominions&#8221; to genocide the indigenous native peoples so that grand imperial schemes like transcontinental railways and associated resource extraction schemes  could carve up indigenous native land. What the CPR and the RCMP had done to the indigenous peoples of wetern Canada was re-done many times over again by the National Party to the Black and Coloured najority, biut with the aim of keeping their labour power available and unable to resist.</p>
<p>So yes, there are many apartheid-like features in how the Zionists treat the Palestinians; there are also genocidal consequences that flowed from how  white Australian governments treated the Aborigines, how Canadian governments and transport and resource monopolies treated the First Nations. The National Party wasn&#8217;t picky: there was gold and diamonds to be plundered in them thar hills. But the specific aim in Palestine of the Zionist program was to GENOCIDE the Palestinians from the get-go and that remains the aim to this day and this hour.</p>
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		<title>By: Rehmat</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Mar 2010 01:32:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Calling Zionist regime as an &quot;Apartheid regime&quot; is like calling a murderer a thief. In fact, in the past, South African White colonialist got a very lucrative deal by being called &quot;Apartheid regime&quot;. They still hold-on to agricultural land, high positions in the military, trade and are the only visible Opposition Party in the Parliament.

Achmad Cassiem, nicknamed &quot;Muslim Mandela&quot; advised Palestinians resistance groups fighting against the Zionist entity: “Don’t make maximum sacrifies for minimum gains – if you’re going to make maximum sacrifices demand maximum gains”.

http://rehmat1.wordpress.com/2010/02/12/20th-anniversary-of-mandelas-freedom/]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Calling Zionist regime as an &#8220;Apartheid regime&#8221; is like calling a murderer a thief. In fact, in the past, South African White colonialist got a very lucrative deal by being called &#8220;Apartheid regime&#8221;. They still hold-on to agricultural land, high positions in the military, trade and are the only visible Opposition Party in the Parliament.</p>
<p>Achmad Cassiem, nicknamed &#8220;Muslim Mandela&#8221; advised Palestinians resistance groups fighting against the Zionist entity: “Don’t make maximum sacrifies for minimum gains – if you’re going to make maximum sacrifices demand maximum gains”.</p>
<p><a href="http://rehmat1.wordpress.com/2010/02/12/20th-anniversary-of-mandelas-freedom/" rel="nofollow">http://rehmat1.wordpress.com/2010/02/12/20th-anniversary-of-mandelas-freedom/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Ismail Zayid</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ismail Zayid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Mar 2010 22:10:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ed. Corrigan illustrates, in this accurate and thorough account, the characteristics of the true racist practices that Israel carries out against the Palestinian people. That these practices conform with and evidently exceed the manifestations of the Apartheid regime in South Sfrica, is confirmed by distinguished representatives from South Africa who lived under Apartheid and knew what they were talking about.

The encouraging sign is that more Israelis are slowly beginning to see the facts as they are and are willing to speak out. This is the only hope that these racist apartheid practices will wither away as they did in South Africa, and thus reason and humanity will triumph and bring about peace and security for all those who live in this tortured land.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ed. Corrigan illustrates, in this accurate and thorough account, the characteristics of the true racist practices that Israel carries out against the Palestinian people. That these practices conform with and evidently exceed the manifestations of the Apartheid regime in South Sfrica, is confirmed by distinguished representatives from South Africa who lived under Apartheid and knew what they were talking about.</p>
<p>The encouraging sign is that more Israelis are slowly beginning to see the facts as they are and are willing to speak out. This is the only hope that these racist apartheid practices will wither away as they did in South Africa, and thus reason and humanity will triumph and bring about peace and security for all those who live in this tortured land.</p>
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		<title>By: bozh</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Mar 2010 20:21:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yes, i agree with MK&#039;s observation. As i have seen it for yrs now, shemites of the three faiths are just being [ab]used and it is just a matter of time before world plutos give up on this artifice w.o. borders.
 It seems to me that world plutos need unrest, &#039;terrorism&#039;, occupations, raids very badly.
And i don&#039;t think i need to give DV readers the &quot;Why&quot;  of it. 
Surely we can see that the non-shemitic peoples of the cult; composed  of all kinds of ethnicities save hebraic hate and shun the descendants of ancient shemites; be they ammonites, amorites, jebusitite, phoenicians, arameans, moabites, edomitites, hebrews, assyrians. tnx]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, i agree with MK&#8217;s observation. As i have seen it for yrs now, shemites of the three faiths are just being [ab]used and it is just a matter of time before world plutos give up on this artifice w.o. borders.<br />
 It seems to me that world plutos need unrest, &#8216;terrorism&#8217;, occupations, raids very badly.<br />
And i don&#8217;t think i need to give DV readers the &#8220;Why&#8221;  of it.<br />
Surely we can see that the non-shemitic peoples of the cult; composed  of all kinds of ethnicities save hebraic hate and shun the descendants of ancient shemites; be they ammonites, amorites, jebusitite, phoenicians, arameans, moabites, edomitites, hebrews, assyrians. tnx</p>
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		<title>By: MichaelKenny</title>
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		<dc:creator>MichaelKenny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Mar 2010 18:08:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[What all these quotes show is that the Israeli elite has largely written off Israel and, from that point of view, it hardly matters whether or not the comparisons to South Africa are accurate or fair. The idea of &quot;selling&quot; the sacred cow that was Israel was once unthinkable. Then, the argument was about whether or not to sell it. Now, they are arguing about how much the beast is worth on the market!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What all these quotes show is that the Israeli elite has largely written off Israel and, from that point of view, it hardly matters whether or not the comparisons to South Africa are accurate or fair. The idea of &#8220;selling&#8221; the sacred cow that was Israel was once unthinkable. Then, the argument was about whether or not to sell it. Now, they are arguing about how much the beast is worth on the market!</p>
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