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	<title>Comments on: Are Mexican Citizens’ Deaths Any Less Deserving of Sadness and Outrage?</title>
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		<title>By: malcolmkyle</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Mar 2010 08:46:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Prohibition is a sickening horror and the ocean of human wreckage it has left in its wake is almost endless.

Prohibition has decimated generations and criminalized millions for a behavior which is entwined in human existence, and for what other purpose than to uphold the defunct and corrupt thinking of a minority of misguided, self-righteous Neo-Puritans and degenerate demagogues who wish nothing but unadulterated destruction on the rest of us.

Based on the unalterable proviso that drug use is essentially an unstoppable and ongoing human behavior which has been with us since the dawn of time, any serious reading on the subject of past attempts at any form of drug prohibition would point most normal thinking people in the direction of sensible regulation. 

By its very nature prohibition cannot fail but create a vast increase in criminal activity, and rather than preventing society from descending into anarchy, it actually fosters an anarchic business model - the international Drug Trade. Any decisions concerning quality, quantity, distribution and availability are then left in the hands of unregulated, anonymous, ruthless drug dealers, who are interested only in the huge profits involved.

Many of us have now finally wised up to the fact that the best avenue towards realistically dealing with drug use and addiction is through proper regulation, which is what we already do with alcohol &amp; tobacco --two of our most dangerous mood altering substances. But for those of you whose ignorant and irrational minds traverse a fantasy plane of existence, you will no doubt remain sorely upset with any type of solution that does not seem to lead to the absurd and unattainable utopia of a drug free society. 

There is an irrefutable connection between drug prohibition and the crime, corruption, disease and death it causes. If you are not capable of understanding this connection, then maybe you&#039;re using something far stronger than the rest of us. Anybody &#039;halfway bright&#039; and who&#039;s not psychologically challenged, should be capable of understanding, that it is not simply the demand for drugs that creates the mayhem; it is our refusal to allow legal businesses to meet that demand. 

No amount of money, police powers, weaponry, diminution of rights and liberties, wishful thinking or pseudo-science will make our streets safer; only an end to prohibition can do that. How much longer are you willing to foolishly risk your own survival by continuing to ignore the obvious, historically confirmed solution?

If you still support the kool aid mass suicide cult of prohibition, and erroneously believe that you can win a war without logic and practical solutions, then prepare yourself for even more death, corruption, terrorism, sickness, imprisonment, unemployment, foreclosed homes, and the complete loss of the rule of law and the Bill of Rights.

&quot;A prohibition law strikes a blow at the very principles upon which our government was founded.&quot;
Abraham Lincoln

The only thing prohibition successfully does is prohibit regulation &amp; taxation while ceding control to the cartels and terrorists, regulation would mean the opposite!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Prohibition is a sickening horror and the ocean of human wreckage it has left in its wake is almost endless.</p>
<p>Prohibition has decimated generations and criminalized millions for a behavior which is entwined in human existence, and for what other purpose than to uphold the defunct and corrupt thinking of a minority of misguided, self-righteous Neo-Puritans and degenerate demagogues who wish nothing but unadulterated destruction on the rest of us.</p>
<p>Based on the unalterable proviso that drug use is essentially an unstoppable and ongoing human behavior which has been with us since the dawn of time, any serious reading on the subject of past attempts at any form of drug prohibition would point most normal thinking people in the direction of sensible regulation. </p>
<p>By its very nature prohibition cannot fail but create a vast increase in criminal activity, and rather than preventing society from descending into anarchy, it actually fosters an anarchic business model &#8211; the international Drug Trade. Any decisions concerning quality, quantity, distribution and availability are then left in the hands of unregulated, anonymous, ruthless drug dealers, who are interested only in the huge profits involved.</p>
<p>Many of us have now finally wised up to the fact that the best avenue towards realistically dealing with drug use and addiction is through proper regulation, which is what we already do with alcohol &amp; tobacco &#8211;two of our most dangerous mood altering substances. But for those of you whose ignorant and irrational minds traverse a fantasy plane of existence, you will no doubt remain sorely upset with any type of solution that does not seem to lead to the absurd and unattainable utopia of a drug free society. </p>
<p>There is an irrefutable connection between drug prohibition and the crime, corruption, disease and death it causes. If you are not capable of understanding this connection, then maybe you&#8217;re using something far stronger than the rest of us. Anybody &#8216;halfway bright&#8217; and who&#8217;s not psychologically challenged, should be capable of understanding, that it is not simply the demand for drugs that creates the mayhem; it is our refusal to allow legal businesses to meet that demand. </p>
<p>No amount of money, police powers, weaponry, diminution of rights and liberties, wishful thinking or pseudo-science will make our streets safer; only an end to prohibition can do that. How much longer are you willing to foolishly risk your own survival by continuing to ignore the obvious, historically confirmed solution?</p>
<p>If you still support the kool aid mass suicide cult of prohibition, and erroneously believe that you can win a war without logic and practical solutions, then prepare yourself for even more death, corruption, terrorism, sickness, imprisonment, unemployment, foreclosed homes, and the complete loss of the rule of law and the Bill of Rights.</p>
<p>&#8220;A prohibition law strikes a blow at the very principles upon which our government was founded.&#8221;<br />
Abraham Lincoln</p>
<p>The only thing prohibition successfully does is prohibit regulation &amp; taxation while ceding control to the cartels and terrorists, regulation would mean the opposite!</p>
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		<title>By: Jonas Rand</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jonas Rand</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Mar 2010 07:41:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Danny, this is not what the article was saying. I implore you to read it. Mexico has tried one of your strategies, namely increasing punishment. Note how this is the only criticism of the criminal justice system allowed to be aired in the mainstream media. See how much it has helped Mexico? Many of the people committing the crimes are police officers, and Mexico is a second world country due to the deleterious effects of the &quot;war on drugs&quot; and authoritarian political structure.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Danny, this is not what the article was saying. I implore you to read it. Mexico has tried one of your strategies, namely increasing punishment. Note how this is the only criticism of the criminal justice system allowed to be aired in the mainstream media. See how much it has helped Mexico? Many of the people committing the crimes are police officers, and Mexico is a second world country due to the deleterious effects of the &#8220;war on drugs&#8221; and authoritarian political structure.</p>
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		<title>By: lichen</title>
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		<dc:creator>lichen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Mar 2010 22:28:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I don&#039;t know why you watch and listen to the mainstream media in the first place?  Your reaction to it is quite lacking.   Drugs are a medical problem, which is how they should be treated here; people who have had emotional and physical trauma seeking to numb themselves via available substances.  Read Gabor Mate.  NAFTA and the disgusting &#039;war on drugs&#039; and economic imperialism are indeed implicit in the deaths in Mexico.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know why you watch and listen to the mainstream media in the first place?  Your reaction to it is quite lacking.   Drugs are a medical problem, which is how they should be treated here; people who have had emotional and physical trauma seeking to numb themselves via available substances.  Read Gabor Mate.  NAFTA and the disgusting &#8216;war on drugs&#8217; and economic imperialism are indeed implicit in the deaths in Mexico.</p>
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		<title>By: Danny Ray</title>
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		<dc:creator>Danny Ray</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Mar 2010 17:52:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Patrick, I agree wholeheartedly with you, Mexico, as well as Columbia, Turkey and Southeast Asia are only providing for a lucrative market. If we in the United States got tough on drugs, they would soon switch to other endeavors. Take the money out of something and it no longer remains attractive.

Here in lies the rub as Shakespeare put it. There are three alternatives to decrease our dependence.

#1. Legalize all drugs, with the exception of marijuana and heroin, all the rest are habit forming and debilitating,  No one in there right mind would advocate for the government to supply cocaine in any form, PCP, speed ( hell even junkies don’t want that back) or any other drug. We have enough trouble trying to educate our kids to compete in the world without them having ready access to crank. Therefore, the legalization route is a non-starter.

#2. Increase the penalties. Our jails are full of drug convicts now. On this web site, there is a constant clamor for the release of drug offenders. We are forced to hear the incessant refrain of, the penalties are too harsh, it was only recreational use. So let us face it, there will be no meaningful increase of drug penalties. 

#3. Drug intervention, AKA drug treatment, or drug education. Well that has never worked, never has and never will. Once an addict always an addict. I have known addicts who have been clean for years only to fall back when something in their psyche prompts them to do so.  Addiction is a mental disorder and the only treatment is to keep drugs away from the addiction. 

#4. Seal the border, and I mean seal it as tight as the old iron curtain ever was. Nothing through that has not been scanned, x-rayed and sniffed by dogs; make it a capital offence to brings drugs into this country. 

All these make the hair curl on the weak spine of the left in this country, many here on this site advocate that there be no borders at all, many want all drug convicts released immediately, and the majority will not execute a murderer. 

Therefore, now I ask, how would you combat drug use in this country?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Patrick, I agree wholeheartedly with you, Mexico, as well as Columbia, Turkey and Southeast Asia are only providing for a lucrative market. If we in the United States got tough on drugs, they would soon switch to other endeavors. Take the money out of something and it no longer remains attractive.</p>
<p>Here in lies the rub as Shakespeare put it. There are three alternatives to decrease our dependence.</p>
<p>#1. Legalize all drugs, with the exception of marijuana and heroin, all the rest are habit forming and debilitating,  No one in there right mind would advocate for the government to supply cocaine in any form, PCP, speed ( hell even junkies don’t want that back) or any other drug. We have enough trouble trying to educate our kids to compete in the world without them having ready access to crank. Therefore, the legalization route is a non-starter.</p>
<p>#2. Increase the penalties. Our jails are full of drug convicts now. On this web site, there is a constant clamor for the release of drug offenders. We are forced to hear the incessant refrain of, the penalties are too harsh, it was only recreational use. So let us face it, there will be no meaningful increase of drug penalties. </p>
<p>#3. Drug intervention, AKA drug treatment, or drug education. Well that has never worked, never has and never will. Once an addict always an addict. I have known addicts who have been clean for years only to fall back when something in their psyche prompts them to do so.  Addiction is a mental disorder and the only treatment is to keep drugs away from the addiction. </p>
<p>#4. Seal the border, and I mean seal it as tight as the old iron curtain ever was. Nothing through that has not been scanned, x-rayed and sniffed by dogs; make it a capital offence to brings drugs into this country. </p>
<p>All these make the hair curl on the weak spine of the left in this country, many here on this site advocate that there be no borders at all, many want all drug convicts released immediately, and the majority will not execute a murderer. </p>
<p>Therefore, now I ask, how would you combat drug use in this country?</p>
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