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	<title>Comments on: Europe&#8217;s Five &#8220;Undeclared Nuclear Weapons States&#8221;</title>
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		<title>By: Rehmat</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2010/02/europes-five-undeclared-nuclear-weapons-states/#comment-64625</link>
		<dc:creator>Rehmat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Feb 2010 01:04:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Israeli daily Yedihot Ahronot recently asked the opinion of three former Israel Occupation Force (IOF) officials; professor Alexander Bligh (University of Notre Dam, USA), professor Moshe Maoz (Hebrew University, Israel) and Oren Shahor (Rabin’s chief negotiator with PLO) – How much damage Syrian army can inflict on Israel if Damascus decides to join Islamic Iran against a US-Israel attack? Alexander and Moshe admitted that “despite Syria’s relatively inferior military capabilities, we should not test its strength – because though Syria has more to loose Israel would sustain a significant damage as Israel’s anti-missile system cannot stop Syrian missile attack which can reach any city in Israel. Therefore, it’s necessary to take diplomatic steps to prevent such testing”. Oren, on the other hand, stressed that both side would not rush into a military conflict – adding that “Syrians will not dare clash with Israel – they’re not Hizb’Allah”.

http://rehmat1.wordpress.com/2010/02/17/nukes-hoax-and-reality/]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Israeli daily Yedihot Ahronot recently asked the opinion of three former Israel Occupation Force (IOF) officials; professor Alexander Bligh (University of Notre Dam, USA), professor Moshe Maoz (Hebrew University, Israel) and Oren Shahor (Rabin’s chief negotiator with PLO) – How much damage Syrian army can inflict on Israel if Damascus decides to join Islamic Iran against a US-Israel attack? Alexander and Moshe admitted that “despite Syria’s relatively inferior military capabilities, we should not test its strength – because though Syria has more to loose Israel would sustain a significant damage as Israel’s anti-missile system cannot stop Syrian missile attack which can reach any city in Israel. Therefore, it’s necessary to take diplomatic steps to prevent such testing”. Oren, on the other hand, stressed that both side would not rush into a military conflict – adding that “Syrians will not dare clash with Israel – they’re not Hizb’Allah”.</p>
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		<title>By: kalidas</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2010/02/europes-five-undeclared-nuclear-weapons-states/#comment-64610</link>
		<dc:creator>kalidas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Feb 2010 17:14:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Soviet Union/Russia once had approx. 30,000 nukes.
Now they have approx. 10,000 nukes.
That one has to say &#039;approx.&#039; about nukes is in itself a bit insane, is it not?
I&#039;m 100% sure Russia both efficiently and effectively destroyed or rendered harmless some 20,000 nukes. Remember, this has to be 100%, not 99%, not 98%, not 95%
20,000 nukes is a lot of nukes.. 
None, not a one, not one single bomb, shell, cruise missile, etc., could possibly, by the wildest stretch of the imagination, made it into the hands of &#039;someone&#039; wanting to buy one or a dozen for millions and even billions of dollars.
We all know how honest and law abiding the Russians are. The poorly paid army, Generals and all, so very precise and honest as the day is long. 
The famed Russian effieciency. All the I&#039;s dotted and the T&#039;s crossed. Right. Sure. Uh-huh. 

Remember the KH-55 (X-55) long range cruise missiles (6-12 ?) purchased by Iran from &#039;unauthorized&#039; people in Ukraine? Nuclear capable missiles.
This back in 1999-2000. 

I believe Iran has several nukes.
Saudi Arabia too.
How could they not?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Soviet Union/Russia once had approx. 30,000 nukes.<br />
Now they have approx. 10,000 nukes.<br />
That one has to say &#8216;approx.&#8217; about nukes is in itself a bit insane, is it not?<br />
I&#8217;m 100% sure Russia both efficiently and effectively destroyed or rendered harmless some 20,000 nukes. Remember, this has to be 100%, not 99%, not 98%, not 95%<br />
20,000 nukes is a lot of nukes..<br />
None, not a one, not one single bomb, shell, cruise missile, etc., could possibly, by the wildest stretch of the imagination, made it into the hands of &#8216;someone&#8217; wanting to buy one or a dozen for millions and even billions of dollars.<br />
We all know how honest and law abiding the Russians are. The poorly paid army, Generals and all, so very precise and honest as the day is long.<br />
The famed Russian effieciency. All the I&#8217;s dotted and the T&#8217;s crossed. Right. Sure. Uh-huh. </p>
<p>Remember the KH-55 (X-55) long range cruise missiles (6-12 ?) purchased by Iran from &#8216;unauthorized&#8217; people in Ukraine? Nuclear capable missiles.<br />
This back in 1999-2000. </p>
<p>I believe Iran has several nukes.<br />
Saudi Arabia too.<br />
How could they not?</p>
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		<title>By: Rehmat</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2010/02/europes-five-undeclared-nuclear-weapons-states/#comment-64600</link>
		<dc:creator>Rehmat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Feb 2010 11:47:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The Israel-led coalition against Iran&#039;s non-existent nukes (the US, France, Britain and Israel) has over 14000 nuclear bombs among them. But the suvival of the Islamic-regime for the last 31 years and Hizb&#039;allah&#039;s 2006 military humiliation of Israel supported by the US and EU - has made the ZOGs shiver at the mention of word &quot;Iran&quot;.

Ahmadinejad: ‘Iran doesnt need nukes to defend itself’
http://rehmat1.wordpress.com/2010/02/15/ahmadinejad-iran-doesnt-need-nukes-to-defend-itself/]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Israel-led coalition against Iran&#8217;s non-existent nukes (the US, France, Britain and Israel) has over 14000 nuclear bombs among them. But the suvival of the Islamic-regime for the last 31 years and Hizb&#8217;allah&#8217;s 2006 military humiliation of Israel supported by the US and EU &#8211; has made the ZOGs shiver at the mention of word &#8220;Iran&#8221;.</p>
<p>Ahmadinejad: ‘Iran doesnt need nukes to defend itself’<br />
<a href="http://rehmat1.wordpress.com/2010/02/15/ahmadinejad-iran-doesnt-need-nukes-to-defend-itself/" rel="nofollow">http://rehmat1.wordpress.com/2010/02/15/ahmadinejad-iran-doesnt-need-nukes-to-defend-itself/</a></p>
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		<title>By: kalidas</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2010/02/europes-five-undeclared-nuclear-weapons-states/#comment-64589</link>
		<dc:creator>kalidas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Feb 2010 23:38:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Oh well, nobody&#039;s perfect...

&quot;In 2004 it was estimated that we had lost at least 11 nuclear weapons of the bomb type. This is not counting other types of nuclear weapons. It was also estimated that 92 nuclear bombs were lost at sea from all nuclear capable countries.

A B-36 was traveling from Alaska to Texas. It developed mechanical problems. The problems got so bad that the crew had to bail out. Unfortunately the plane was carrying a test nuke. The explosive material detonated, not the nuke, over the coast of British Columbia. This is listed as the world&#039;s first nuclear accident. This accident was said to have taken place in January, 1950.

Also in 1950 it is said that a B-36 was forced to jettison it&#039;s nuclear bomb into the Pacific Ocean where it still remains today.

Forty five years ago a B-47 was flying with a nuclear weapon off the coast of South Carolina, USA. The location is disputed, some say it was off the coast of Georgia and others say North Carolina. The copilot went back to the weapon to install a pin. The pin was necessary for the release mechanism to work. It wouldn&#039;t go in. He radioed back to the base and he was advised to jiggle the release mechanism to align the parts so the pin would fit in. When the copilot did this, the weapon dropped out of the plane into the ocean and was lost.

In 1956 a B-47 crashed into the Mediterranean Sea. The plane was carrying to canisters of nuclear material.

In 1957 a C-124 was forced to jettison two nuclear weapons into the Atlantic Ocean. These weapons remain lost.

In 1961 a very scary thing happened. A B-52 was carrying two 20 megaton nuclear bombs. The plane crashed and five of the six safeties on the bomb failed. The crash occurred near Goldsboro, North Carolina. One bomb was lost. The government states that it never had a bomb larger than 15 megatons.&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh well, nobody&#8217;s perfect&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8220;In 2004 it was estimated that we had lost at least 11 nuclear weapons of the bomb type. This is not counting other types of nuclear weapons. It was also estimated that 92 nuclear bombs were lost at sea from all nuclear capable countries.</p>
<p>A B-36 was traveling from Alaska to Texas. It developed mechanical problems. The problems got so bad that the crew had to bail out. Unfortunately the plane was carrying a test nuke. The explosive material detonated, not the nuke, over the coast of British Columbia. This is listed as the world&#8217;s first nuclear accident. This accident was said to have taken place in January, 1950.</p>
<p>Also in 1950 it is said that a B-36 was forced to jettison it&#8217;s nuclear bomb into the Pacific Ocean where it still remains today.</p>
<p>Forty five years ago a B-47 was flying with a nuclear weapon off the coast of South Carolina, USA. The location is disputed, some say it was off the coast of Georgia and others say North Carolina. The copilot went back to the weapon to install a pin. The pin was necessary for the release mechanism to work. It wouldn&#8217;t go in. He radioed back to the base and he was advised to jiggle the release mechanism to align the parts so the pin would fit in. When the copilot did this, the weapon dropped out of the plane into the ocean and was lost.</p>
<p>In 1956 a B-47 crashed into the Mediterranean Sea. The plane was carrying to canisters of nuclear material.</p>
<p>In 1957 a C-124 was forced to jettison two nuclear weapons into the Atlantic Ocean. These weapons remain lost.</p>
<p>In 1961 a very scary thing happened. A B-52 was carrying two 20 megaton nuclear bombs. The plane crashed and five of the six safeties on the bomb failed. The crash occurred near Goldsboro, North Carolina. One bomb was lost. The government states that it never had a bomb larger than 15 megatons.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: MichaelKenny</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2010/02/europes-five-undeclared-nuclear-weapons-states/#comment-64585</link>
		<dc:creator>MichaelKenny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Feb 2010 20:02:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I can confirm that nuclear bombs are kept at Belgian airbases at least. I knew a USAF NCO who was part of a detachment stationed at a Belgian airbase and his job was to sign out American nuclear bombs to Belgian air force pilots, who took them on training flights and then signed them back in to the USAF detachment.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can confirm that nuclear bombs are kept at Belgian airbases at least. I knew a USAF NCO who was part of a detachment stationed at a Belgian airbase and his job was to sign out American nuclear bombs to Belgian air force pilots, who took them on training flights and then signed them back in to the USAF detachment.</p>
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		<title>By: Danny Ray</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2010/02/europes-five-undeclared-nuclear-weapons-states/#comment-64583</link>
		<dc:creator>Danny Ray</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Feb 2010 19:25:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I don’t know why I do this but here goes.
The five so-called undeclared nuclear states do not actually have any nuclear weapons nor do they have access to them. All nukes in those countries secured in bunkers on American Air Force bases. The codes are in the pentagon and in the briefcase located just behind P.B.O. ( President Barack Obama)
Yes, they have the ability to deliver these weapons, any one with a modern aircraft can use them. Hell you can deliver them in a VW if you want to bad enough.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don’t know why I do this but here goes.<br />
The five so-called undeclared nuclear states do not actually have any nuclear weapons nor do they have access to them. All nukes in those countries secured in bunkers on American Air Force bases. The codes are in the pentagon and in the briefcase located just behind P.B.O. ( President Barack Obama)<br />
Yes, they have the ability to deliver these weapons, any one with a modern aircraft can use them. Hell you can deliver them in a VW if you want to bad enough.</p>
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		<title>By: Charlie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Charlie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Feb 2010 18:14:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The B61 is the type of weapon I have always feared the Americans, NATO, Israel, or some other nuke power would use--because, by nuke weapons standards, it is a cap gun, little more than a suitcase weapon. Again by nuclear standards, it would be a &quot;surgical strike&quot; weapon, as opposed to the indiscriminate, earth-splitting power of the 50 to 100-MT thermonuclear bombs at the disposal of several nations.

A single bombing run by one plane delivering a B61 or two could take out an alleged nuke weapons development site or &quot;terrorist hideout&quot; and simultaneously send a message of impending total destruction to the bombed nation. Diplomacy by mushroom cloud.

One of the greatest fears of sane people everywhere for the past 65 years has been global thermonuclear war. In my mind, a small H-bomb could bring about WWIII as easily as a big one. When one flies, what&#039;s to stop them all from flying in a last, desperate show of rage and hatred among adversarial governments?

And in my more cynical moments, I fear that some nations would be willing to use nukes just to see how well they perform. The ban on nuke testing has left many nations with the frustration of not having the &quot;bang&quot; they&#039;ve worked so hard (and so foolishly) to develop. Is any government insane enough to test its nukes by war? Or perhaps I should ask, how many nations are sane enough not to?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The B61 is the type of weapon I have always feared the Americans, NATO, Israel, or some other nuke power would use&#8211;because, by nuke weapons standards, it is a cap gun, little more than a suitcase weapon. Again by nuclear standards, it would be a &#8220;surgical strike&#8221; weapon, as opposed to the indiscriminate, earth-splitting power of the 50 to 100-MT thermonuclear bombs at the disposal of several nations.</p>
<p>A single bombing run by one plane delivering a B61 or two could take out an alleged nuke weapons development site or &#8220;terrorist hideout&#8221; and simultaneously send a message of impending total destruction to the bombed nation. Diplomacy by mushroom cloud.</p>
<p>One of the greatest fears of sane people everywhere for the past 65 years has been global thermonuclear war. In my mind, a small H-bomb could bring about WWIII as easily as a big one. When one flies, what&#8217;s to stop them all from flying in a last, desperate show of rage and hatred among adversarial governments?</p>
<p>And in my more cynical moments, I fear that some nations would be willing to use nukes just to see how well they perform. The ban on nuke testing has left many nations with the frustration of not having the &#8220;bang&#8221; they&#8217;ve worked so hard (and so foolishly) to develop. Is any government insane enough to test its nukes by war? Or perhaps I should ask, how many nations are sane enough not to?</p>
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		<title>By: bozh</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2010/02/europes-five-undeclared-nuclear-weapons-states/#comment-64579</link>
		<dc:creator>bozh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Feb 2010 17:17:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[That&#039;s ok! Worms, bacteria wld survive! And that&#039;s all gods care about. And i think even the devil wld go for that. tnx]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s ok! Worms, bacteria wld survive! And that&#8217;s all gods care about. And i think even the devil wld go for that. tnx</p>
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