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		<title>By: Solus</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2010/01/gaza-in-plain-language/#comment-64556</link>
		<dc:creator>Solus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Feb 2010 20:56:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Never Again.
http://blip.tv/file/1684223/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Never Again.<br />
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		<title>By: dan e</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2010/01/gaza-in-plain-language/#comment-64489</link>
		<dc:creator>dan e</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Feb 2010 00:44:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>yes &amp; the moon is made of green yogurt:) 

&quot;johntea&quot;? TEA? is this cr... er, balderdash what this &quot;tea&quot; business is all about? Speak up, Teapeople:)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yes &amp; the moon is made of green yogurt:) </p>
<p>&#8220;johntea&#8221;? TEA? is this cr&#8230; er, balderdash what this &#8220;tea&#8221; business is all about? Speak up, Teapeople:)</p>
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		<title>By: johntea18</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2010/01/gaza-in-plain-language/#comment-64486</link>
		<dc:creator>johntea18</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Feb 2010 21:15:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>deceschi, you are 100% correct. Looks like most of the responders here, not to mention the &quot;authors&quot; are trolls who ignore Arab intolerance towards all non-arabs. The Pals are no different in their perceptions of the dhimmi...genocidal in tendency and intolerant in perception. They continue to murder women and children. In general, Jihad is merely the tool to create an  islamofascist empire. In Israel, they will do anything to dislodge the Jews from their homeland. Is it any wonder that the PLO began in &#039;64, years before Israel had to defensively fight against 5 Arab armies that wanted to annihilate Jews and eventually captured all of Judea and Samaria, the heartland of biblical Israel? Meanwhile, in the Sudan and Darfur, the racist Arabs murder black muslims --400,000 murdered thus far-- because of their skin color while Israelis welcome the Ethiopian Jews as brothers. With this type of hatred of Jews (and it is nothing but that) the fight against all Arabs, including Pals who are culturally no different than  Syrians,  will be, unfortunately, eternal</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>deceschi, you are 100% correct. Looks like most of the responders here, not to mention the &#8220;authors&#8221; are trolls who ignore Arab intolerance towards all non-arabs. The Pals are no different in their perceptions of the dhimmi&#8230;genocidal in tendency and intolerant in perception. They continue to murder women and children. In general, Jihad is merely the tool to create an  islamofascist empire. In Israel, they will do anything to dislodge the Jews from their homeland. Is it any wonder that the PLO began in &#8217;64, years before Israel had to defensively fight against 5 Arab armies that wanted to annihilate Jews and eventually captured all of Judea and Samaria, the heartland of biblical Israel? Meanwhile, in the Sudan and Darfur, the racist Arabs murder black muslims &#8211;400,000 murdered thus far&#8211; because of their skin color while Israelis welcome the Ethiopian Jews as brothers. With this type of hatred of Jews (and it is nothing but that) the fight against all Arabs, including Pals who are culturally no different than  Syrians,  will be, unfortunately, eternal</p>
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		<title>By: JimFetzer</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2010/01/gaza-in-plain-language/#comment-64460</link>
		<dc:creator>JimFetzer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Feb 2010 22:12:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It was my privilege to appear on &quot;No Lies Radio&quot; with Kevin Barrett the first half-hour of the show today and to be followed by Joe Mowrey.  I consider the Israeli-Palestinian conflict to be among the transcendent human rights issues of our time.  
See my blog at http://jamesfetzer.blogspot.com/2010/02/blog-post_08.html

An earlier exchange with Sherwood Ross, &quot;The U.S. is Out of Control&quot;, appeared at   http://jamesfetzer.blogspot.com/2010/02/us-is-out-of-control-interview-with.html and with Yvonne Ridley about Dr. Aafia Siddiqui, aka &quot;Prisoner 650&quot;, http://jamesfetzer.blogspot.com/2009/11/conversation-with-yvonne-ridley-what.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It was my privilege to appear on &#8220;No Lies Radio&#8221; with Kevin Barrett the first half-hour of the show today and to be followed by Joe Mowrey.  I consider the Israeli-Palestinian conflict to be among the transcendent human rights issues of our time.<br />
See my blog at <a href="http://jamesfetzer.blogspot.com/2010/02/blog-post_08.html" rel="nofollow">http://jamesfetzer.blogspot.com/2010/02/blog-post_08.html</a></p>
<p>An earlier exchange with Sherwood Ross, &#8220;The U.S. is Out of Control&#8221;, appeared at   http://jamesfetzer.blogspot.com/2010/02/us-is-out-of-control-interview-with.html and with Yvonne Ridley about Dr. Aafia Siddiqui, aka &#8220;Prisoner 650&#8243;, <a href="http://jamesfetzer.blogspot.com/2009/11/conversation-with-yvonne-ridley-what.html" rel="nofollow">http://jamesfetzer.blogspot.com/2009/11/conversation-with-yvonne-ridley-what.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: McMicah</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2010/01/gaza-in-plain-language/#comment-64459</link>
		<dc:creator>McMicah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Feb 2010 21:55:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I often find myself recalling the following quote by Arthur Schopenhauer when I read news stories that whitewash or &quot;civilize&quot; reality:

&quot;Lasting pain exist only in thought and therefore lies in the memory.  If now such a sorrow, such painful knowledge or reflection, is so bitter that it becomes altogether unbearable, and the individual is prostrated under it, then, terrified nature seizes upon madness as the last resource of life; the mind so forcefully tortured at once destroys the threat of its memory, fills up the gap with fictions, and thus seeks refuge in madness from the mental suffering that exceeds its strength, just as we cut off a mortified limb and replace it with a wooden one...  A faint analogy of this kind of transition from pain to madness is to be found in the way in which all of us often seek, as it were mechanically, to drive away a painful thought that suddenly occurs to us by some loud exclamation or quick movement to turn ourselves from it to distract our minds by force.&quot;

Apparently mainstream media is the insane &quot;force&quot; by which we are supposed to distract ourselves from the unbearable truth.  Thank you, Joe Mowrey, for keeping us sane.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I often find myself recalling the following quote by Arthur Schopenhauer when I read news stories that whitewash or &#8220;civilize&#8221; reality:</p>
<p>&#8220;Lasting pain exist only in thought and therefore lies in the memory.  If now such a sorrow, such painful knowledge or reflection, is so bitter that it becomes altogether unbearable, and the individual is prostrated under it, then, terrified nature seizes upon madness as the last resource of life; the mind so forcefully tortured at once destroys the threat of its memory, fills up the gap with fictions, and thus seeks refuge in madness from the mental suffering that exceeds its strength, just as we cut off a mortified limb and replace it with a wooden one&#8230;  A faint analogy of this kind of transition from pain to madness is to be found in the way in which all of us often seek, as it were mechanically, to drive away a painful thought that suddenly occurs to us by some loud exclamation or quick movement to turn ourselves from it to distract our minds by force.&#8221;</p>
<p>Apparently mainstream media is the insane &#8220;force&#8221; by which we are supposed to distract ourselves from the unbearable truth.  Thank you, Joe Mowrey, for keeping us sane.</p>
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		<title>By: mary</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2010/01/gaza-in-plain-language/#comment-64426</link>
		<dc:creator>mary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Feb 2010 09:25:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>JOE WROTE - Recently, I was pleased to be contacted by Anthony Lawson, an international-prize-winning producer and director, concerning the production of a video presentation of my latest article at Dissident Voice . It has been my privilege to work with Anthony over the last few weeks as he edited the article and we researched and compiled the necessary imagery for his masterful production. 
 
Gaza in Plain Language

It is a plain and simple assessment of the horror which was unleashed on the people of Gaza in January, 2009. One year later, as the illegal and immoral siege of Gaza continues, and as the brutal dispossession and oppression of the Palestinian people in the West Bank is accelerated, the true story of the monumental injustice which has been visited on the Palestinian people for the last 60 years must be told again and again until the entire world begins to listen. 

I hope you will reserve nine minutes and 41 seconds of your time to watch this video. If it arouses your anger and compassion, please share it with as many people as possible.

As people of conscience, we are obligated to express the truth in order to achieve justice. 

 Joe Mowrey

PS  There is a nice acknowledgement to Kim and his DV olleagues on the info. bar.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QFK5TNcmEmg</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JOE WROTE &#8211; Recently, I was pleased to be contacted by Anthony Lawson, an international-prize-winning producer and director, concerning the production of a video presentation of my latest article at Dissident Voice . It has been my privilege to work with Anthony over the last few weeks as he edited the article and we researched and compiled the necessary imagery for his masterful production. </p>
<p>Gaza in Plain Language</p>
<p>It is a plain and simple assessment of the horror which was unleashed on the people of Gaza in January, 2009. One year later, as the illegal and immoral siege of Gaza continues, and as the brutal dispossession and oppression of the Palestinian people in the West Bank is accelerated, the true story of the monumental injustice which has been visited on the Palestinian people for the last 60 years must be told again and again until the entire world begins to listen. </p>
<p>I hope you will reserve nine minutes and 41 seconds of your time to watch this video. If it arouses your anger and compassion, please share it with as many people as possible.</p>
<p>As people of conscience, we are obligated to express the truth in order to achieve justice. </p>
<p> Joe Mowrey</p>
<p>PS  There is a nice acknowledgement to Kim and his DV olleagues on the info. bar.<br />
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QFK5TNcmEmg" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QFK5TNcmEmg</a></p>
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		<title>By: MuslimScot</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2010/01/gaza-in-plain-language/#comment-63922</link>
		<dc:creator>MuslimScot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Jan 2010 12:11:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wells said. Good, well written article.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wells said. Good, well written article.</p>
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		<title>By: jon s</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2010/01/gaza-in-plain-language/#comment-63897</link>
		<dc:creator>jon s</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jan 2010 17:06:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The present Israeli response brought about these recollections, from Yossi Sarid:
http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/pages/ShArtVty.jhtml?sw=yossi+sarid&amp;itemNo=1143883</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The present Israeli response brought about these recollections, from Yossi Sarid:<br />
<a href="http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/pages/ShArtVty.jhtml?sw=yossi+sarid&#038;itemNo=1143883" rel="nofollow">http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/pages/ShArtVty.jhtml?sw=yossi+sarid&#038;itemNo=1143883</a></p>
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		<title>By: Mulga Mumblebrain</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2010/01/gaza-in-plain-language/#comment-63889</link>
		<dc:creator>Mulga Mumblebrain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jan 2010 10:45:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maryb, have you noticed one aspect of the Western media coverage of the desultory rescue attempts in Haiti, ie the sycophantic emphasis on the Israeli &#039;contribution&#039;. Just the other night the BBC coverage, that concentrated on the Israeli rescue effort (you will have noticed that the hundreds of Cuban doctors who are there and have been there for years, have been studiously ignored)was followed by SkyNews with an even longer coverage, once again of the heroic Israelis, scrabbling under rubble,instead of producing it, as in Gaza,and rescuing people instead of immolating them with white phosphorus.
                 Later, another grotesque excess of fawning obsequiousness included the nauseating sight of an new-born babe, whose mother had &#039;decided&#039; (of her own volition, no doubt, without inducement-I bet!)to name her son &#039;Israel&#039; out of  gratitude for her rescue, having his arm tag inscribed, by the Israeli nurse, not just with his name, but a bloody Star of David as well! Talk about arrogant presumption, but it does come so naturally, does it not! Then there was the picture on the daily paper, with the little chap rescued with his arms flung wide, recreating the gesture, while wearing a T-shirt inscribed-what else?-in Hebrew!
        So, plainly, the Zionist propaganda apparatus, either directly on the ground through their &#039;humanitarian&#039; representatives, or through the well-trained hyenas of the Western media, see Haiti as a grand opportunity for pro-Israel agit-prop. Perhaps they imagine that following the Israelis around and highlighting their efforts will make people forget or downplay the savagery, the ongoing sadistic barbarity, of Gaza. Once again the Zionists have excelled themselves in moral imbecility, and arrogance, even in the context of a giant tragedy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maryb, have you noticed one aspect of the Western media coverage of the desultory rescue attempts in Haiti, ie the sycophantic emphasis on the Israeli &#8216;contribution&#8217;. Just the other night the BBC coverage, that concentrated on the Israeli rescue effort (you will have noticed that the hundreds of Cuban doctors who are there and have been there for years, have been studiously ignored)was followed by SkyNews with an even longer coverage, once again of the heroic Israelis, scrabbling under rubble,instead of producing it, as in Gaza,and rescuing people instead of immolating them with white phosphorus.<br />
                 Later, another grotesque excess of fawning obsequiousness included the nauseating sight of an new-born babe, whose mother had &#8216;decided&#8217; (of her own volition, no doubt, without inducement-I bet!)to name her son &#8216;Israel&#8217; out of  gratitude for her rescue, having his arm tag inscribed, by the Israeli nurse, not just with his name, but a bloody Star of David as well! Talk about arrogant presumption, but it does come so naturally, does it not! Then there was the picture on the daily paper, with the little chap rescued with his arms flung wide, recreating the gesture, while wearing a T-shirt inscribed-what else?-in Hebrew!<br />
        So, plainly, the Zionist propaganda apparatus, either directly on the ground through their &#8216;humanitarian&#8217; representatives, or through the well-trained hyenas of the Western media, see Haiti as a grand opportunity for pro-Israel agit-prop. Perhaps they imagine that following the Israelis around and highlighting their efforts will make people forget or downplay the savagery, the ongoing sadistic barbarity, of Gaza. Once again the Zionists have excelled themselves in moral imbecility, and arrogance, even in the context of a giant tragedy.</p>
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		<title>By: Maryb</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2010/01/gaza-in-plain-language/#comment-63816</link>
		<dc:creator>Maryb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jan 2010 08:09:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Letters - We must not renege on war crime laws
 
The Guardian, Saturday 16 January 2010 

We are shocked at suggestions by the Foreign and Commonwealth Office minister Ivan Lewis and foreign secretary David Miliband that Britain may consider changing its laws to avoid any future attempts to prosecute suspected war criminals, Israeli or otherwise. The UK must not renege on its international treaty obligations, particularly those under the fourth Geneva convention to seek out and prosecute persons suspected of war crimes wherever and whoever they are, whatever their status, rank or influence, against whom good prima facie evidence has been laid. We reject any attempt to undermine the judiciary&#039;s independence and integrity. A judge who finds sufficient evidence of a war crime must have power to order the arrest of a suspect, subject to the usual rights to bail and appeal.

The power to arrest individuals reasonably suspected of war crimes anywhere in the world should they set foot on UK soil is an efficient and necessary resource in the struggle against war crimes, and must not be interfered with (Report, 6 January). Nor should the government succumb to pressure from any foreign power to alter this crucial aspect of the judicial process. We urge the government to state clearly that it will not alter the law on universal jurisdiction and will continue to allow victims of war crimes to seek justice in British courts.

(list of just under 100 signatories)

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/jan/16/war-crimes-universal-jurisdiction-israel</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Letters &#8211; We must not renege on war crime laws</p>
<p>The Guardian, Saturday 16 January 2010 </p>
<p>We are shocked at suggestions by the Foreign and Commonwealth Office minister Ivan Lewis and foreign secretary David Miliband that Britain may consider changing its laws to avoid any future attempts to prosecute suspected war criminals, Israeli or otherwise. The UK must not renege on its international treaty obligations, particularly those under the fourth Geneva convention to seek out and prosecute persons suspected of war crimes wherever and whoever they are, whatever their status, rank or influence, against whom good prima facie evidence has been laid. We reject any attempt to undermine the judiciary&#8217;s independence and integrity. A judge who finds sufficient evidence of a war crime must have power to order the arrest of a suspect, subject to the usual rights to bail and appeal.</p>
<p>The power to arrest individuals reasonably suspected of war crimes anywhere in the world should they set foot on UK soil is an efficient and necessary resource in the struggle against war crimes, and must not be interfered with (Report, 6 January). Nor should the government succumb to pressure from any foreign power to alter this crucial aspect of the judicial process. We urge the government to state clearly that it will not alter the law on universal jurisdiction and will continue to allow victims of war crimes to seek justice in British courts.</p>
<p>(list of just under 100 signatories)</p>
<p><a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/jan/16/war-crimes-universal-jurisdiction-israel" rel="nofollow">http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/jan/16/war-crimes-universal-jurisdiction-israel</a></p>
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		<title>By: Maryb</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2010/01/gaza-in-plain-language/#comment-63815</link>
		<dc:creator>Maryb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jan 2010 07:44:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chutzpah or bluff from Livni (she who cancelled her visit to the UK when she got wind of an arrest warrant out for her)? 

Bluff and bluster I would say - partly to soften the emasculation of the Geneva Convention Act 1957 which her Zionist friends in NuLabour have promised if they stay in power.

http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1263147923041&amp;pagename=JPost/JPArticle/ShowFull</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chutzpah or bluff from Livni (she who cancelled her visit to the UK when she got wind of an arrest warrant out for her)? </p>
<p>Bluff and bluster I would say &#8211; partly to soften the emasculation of the Geneva Convention Act 1957 which her Zionist friends in NuLabour have promised if they stay in power.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1263147923041&#038;pagename=JPost/JPArticle/ShowFull" rel="nofollow">http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1263147923041&#038;pagename=JPost/JPArticle/ShowFull</a></p>
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		<title>By: deceschi</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2010/01/gaza-in-plain-language/#comment-63806</link>
		<dc:creator>deceschi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jan 2010 23:58:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Do this work if you believe in it, but be please aware to work for reconciliation not for more conflict. The way you sometimes speak of Israel - paraphrasing  indeed the &quot;right wing&quot; Palestinian / Arab mainstream - does not bode well for peace. Only a suggestion.

Have a good day.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Do this work if you believe in it, but be please aware to work for reconciliation not for more conflict. The way you sometimes speak of Israel &#8211; paraphrasing  indeed the &#8220;right wing&#8221; Palestinian / Arab mainstream &#8211; does not bode well for peace. Only a suggestion.</p>
<p>Have a good day.</p>
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		<title>By: lichen</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2010/01/gaza-in-plain-language/#comment-63805</link>
		<dc:creator>lichen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jan 2010 23:37:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>decechi, you cannot &quot;disappoint&quot; me--I have neither expectations nor hopes for zionists like you.  When describing the Palestineans, you have no respect, but take the typical language of the colonizer--to decondescend to the colonial subjects by talking of them as &#039;naughty children&#039; that need to be corrected otherwise they will be &#039;rightfully punished&#039; by the parental white people (and since most jews are white europeans, that phrase is appropriate.)  This shows not only the parasitic and cruel attitude you have towards actual children, but how much you deride and hate the rights of the wonderful Palestinean people.  

Thankfully, I&#039;m not someone who is infected by the right wing mainstream media&#039;s &quot;both sides&quot; principal, wherein there are no ethics and there is no possibility of justice, but the weaker party&#039;s subjugation is legitimized by the claim that &quot;both sides&quot; suck.  I&#039;m not interested in your Israeli propaganda, either.  So oh well; we will continue to build up an international movement that will isolate and force israel to unconditionally follow UN resolutions to get out of east jerusulem, the west bank, and gaza.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>decechi, you cannot &#8220;disappoint&#8221; me&#8211;I have neither expectations nor hopes for zionists like you.  When describing the Palestineans, you have no respect, but take the typical language of the colonizer&#8211;to decondescend to the colonial subjects by talking of them as &#8216;naughty children&#8217; that need to be corrected otherwise they will be &#8216;rightfully punished&#8217; by the parental white people (and since most jews are white europeans, that phrase is appropriate.)  This shows not only the parasitic and cruel attitude you have towards actual children, but how much you deride and hate the rights of the wonderful Palestinean people.  </p>
<p>Thankfully, I&#8217;m not someone who is infected by the right wing mainstream media&#8217;s &#8220;both sides&#8221; principal, wherein there are no ethics and there is no possibility of justice, but the weaker party&#8217;s subjugation is legitimized by the claim that &#8220;both sides&#8221; suck.  I&#8217;m not interested in your Israeli propaganda, either.  So oh well; we will continue to build up an international movement that will isolate and force israel to unconditionally follow UN resolutions to get out of east jerusulem, the west bank, and gaza.</p>
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		<title>By: deceschi</title>
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		<dc:creator>deceschi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jan 2010 23:29:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>lichen - 

I don&#039;t want to disappoint you, but I consider your discourse the usual anti-Israel rethoric without substance (and therefore simply irresponsible and dangerous). I&#039;ve never heard you say a single word about the thousands of rockets Hamas shot against Israeli civilians after Israel pulled out from Gaza in 2005, or - if you like - against the suicide bombings in the Israeli cities after the failed Oslo accords in 2000. Neither you uttered a single word on Hamas Charter that explicitly incites to the destruction of Israel, or against the hate education/propaganda in Palestinian/Arab media and schools. 

But I can presume why you didn&#039;t. Because you agree with all this.
You justify and even supports all this by virtue of the belief, which you share with the (radical) Palestinians, that Israel is &quot;evil&quot;, the &quot;evil&quot; in itself. And because Israel is the evil, there are no limits to the fight against it. Everything is allowed, justified, even terror against civilians (the latter is integral part of the invading and oppressing &quot;Zionist entity&quot;), even education to hatred, anti-Israeli AND anti-Semitic. That&#039;s also the reason why in Iran the masses can yell without hesitation in every demonstration, istigated by their president and their leaders: &quot;Marg bar Esraiil&quot; - &quot;Death to Israel&quot;. 

But where will this radical (to put it mildly) mindset lead which considers the other side, the enemy, nothing else than &quot;evil&quot;, &quot;cancer&quot;, &quot;microbe&quot; and so on? And do you think that this supposed &quot;evil&quot; will be willing to accept that kind of hatred and violence without (re)acting or defending itself? Will the &quot;evil&quot; Jews agree to be attacked in order to be removed, maybe destroyed, as written in the Hamas charter and repeated by many leaders of Hamas and Iran, its strongest supporter?

In other words: Do you think that this approach can help the Palestinians to achieve peace and prosperity, to achieve these goals? If you really believe that, so I don&#039;t know who is here more deluded. It&#039;s simply worring.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>lichen &#8211; </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t want to disappoint you, but I consider your discourse the usual anti-Israel rethoric without substance (and therefore simply irresponsible and dangerous). I&#8217;ve never heard you say a single word about the thousands of rockets Hamas shot against Israeli civilians after Israel pulled out from Gaza in 2005, or &#8211; if you like &#8211; against the suicide bombings in the Israeli cities after the failed Oslo accords in 2000. Neither you uttered a single word on Hamas Charter that explicitly incites to the destruction of Israel, or against the hate education/propaganda in Palestinian/Arab media and schools. </p>
<p>But I can presume why you didn&#8217;t. Because you agree with all this.<br />
You justify and even supports all this by virtue of the belief, which you share with the (radical) Palestinians, that Israel is &#8220;evil&#8221;, the &#8220;evil&#8221; in itself. And because Israel is the evil, there are no limits to the fight against it. Everything is allowed, justified, even terror against civilians (the latter is integral part of the invading and oppressing &#8220;Zionist entity&#8221;), even education to hatred, anti-Israeli AND anti-Semitic. That&#8217;s also the reason why in Iran the masses can yell without hesitation in every demonstration, istigated by their president and their leaders: &#8220;Marg bar Esraiil&#8221; &#8211; &#8220;Death to Israel&#8221;. </p>
<p>But where will this radical (to put it mildly) mindset lead which considers the other side, the enemy, nothing else than &#8220;evil&#8221;, &#8220;cancer&#8221;, &#8220;microbe&#8221; and so on? And do you think that this supposed &#8220;evil&#8221; will be willing to accept that kind of hatred and violence without (re)acting or defending itself? Will the &#8220;evil&#8221; Jews agree to be attacked in order to be removed, maybe destroyed, as written in the Hamas charter and repeated by many leaders of Hamas and Iran, its strongest supporter?</p>
<p>In other words: Do you think that this approach can help the Palestinians to achieve peace and prosperity, to achieve these goals? If you really believe that, so I don&#8217;t know who is here more deluded. It&#8217;s simply worring.</p>
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		<title>By: okeefecybermesa</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2010/01/gaza-in-plain-language/#comment-63803</link>
		<dc:creator>okeefecybermesa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jan 2010 22:44:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>lichen is correct on every count. Hamas was elected in elections demanded by Israel and the US. When they were not allowed to govern they drove Fatah out and have governed since. They have acted responsibly toward their constituency and are the only thing keeping the population under control.
The idea that the Gazans must comply with Israel&#039;s ideas of what their government should be is ridiculous beyond words and no sovereign people would agree to that. 
deceschi&#039;s assertion that Gazans are acting irresponsibly is also absurd. Was the Stern gang responsible? Irgun? Desperate people in desperate situations will not act &quot;responsibly&quot; and to expect otherwise is simplistic at best. Israel has created a population that has decided they have nothing to lose and like any creature backed into a corner without escape, they will strike back at times. That they have not done more so is remarkable and attests to the restraint of Hamas. Would deceschi like to see the outcome that happened here in the US when we completely obliterated and humiliated the Native Americans? He would be in great company then!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>lichen is correct on every count. Hamas was elected in elections demanded by Israel and the US. When they were not allowed to govern they drove Fatah out and have governed since. They have acted responsibly toward their constituency and are the only thing keeping the population under control.<br />
The idea that the Gazans must comply with Israel&#8217;s ideas of what their government should be is ridiculous beyond words and no sovereign people would agree to that.<br />
deceschi&#8217;s assertion that Gazans are acting irresponsibly is also absurd. Was the Stern gang responsible? Irgun? Desperate people in desperate situations will not act &#8220;responsibly&#8221; and to expect otherwise is simplistic at best. Israel has created a population that has decided they have nothing to lose and like any creature backed into a corner without escape, they will strike back at times. That they have not done more so is remarkable and attests to the restraint of Hamas. Would deceschi like to see the outcome that happened here in the US when we completely obliterated and humiliated the Native Americans? He would be in great company then!</p>
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		<title>By: lichen</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2010/01/gaza-in-plain-language/#comment-63800</link>
		<dc:creator>lichen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jan 2010 21:55:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hamas is the democratically elected government of Gaza; hamas forces are the national guard of gaza, called out to defend the territory from the illegal invasion, illegal attacks, and illegal occupation of the genocidal IDF; a terrorist organization that recruits every single young person in it&#039;s country to murder, oppress, and steal from Palestine, which has a right to it&#039;s demcoracy and to it&#039;s own defense forces.  Israel, as the larger more equipped and guilty party, should be the one to renounce violence.   Palestine is not legally subject to Israeli rule, is not legally occupied or owned by israel; so no, deluded colonists like desechi have no place to air their condescending propaganda; the world will stop you from thinking you are a &#039;parent&#039; to the Gazan&#039;s.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hamas is the democratically elected government of Gaza; hamas forces are the national guard of gaza, called out to defend the territory from the illegal invasion, illegal attacks, and illegal occupation of the genocidal IDF; a terrorist organization that recruits every single young person in it&#8217;s country to murder, oppress, and steal from Palestine, which has a right to it&#8217;s demcoracy and to it&#8217;s own defense forces.  Israel, as the larger more equipped and guilty party, should be the one to renounce violence.   Palestine is not legally subject to Israeli rule, is not legally occupied or owned by israel; so no, deluded colonists like desechi have no place to air their condescending propaganda; the world will stop you from thinking you are a &#8216;parent&#8217; to the Gazan&#8217;s.</p>
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		<title>By: deceschi</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2010/01/gaza-in-plain-language/#comment-63798</link>
		<dc:creator>deceschi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jan 2010 21:28:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Really a pity that the Gazans elected the bunch of fanatic terrorists which are Hamas and cohorts, believing that their situation would improve. They actually have been and are cynically misused, exploited for belligerent irrational goals, hostages of a destructive policy of confrontation at all costs that led them in a blind alley. 

Do the Palestinians want to lift the blockade and normalize their living conditions as well as the relations with their neighbours, Israel and Egypt? They should provide evidence that they are serious about reconciliation and peace: stop the hate education of the youth, release Shalit on just terms (not to get free hundreds of more terrorists), remove those  passages in the Charter which explicitly promise the destruction of Israel, stop the terror activities (called low intensity war) which, like a boomerang, affect the own civilian population. And accept the demands of the international community for a peaceful solution of the conflict.

Not willing? Only the &quot;evil&quot; Israel to blame for their &quot;misery&quot;? Then they should face the consequences resulting from the choice to fight against the designated evil enemy. 

It&#039;s a shame the Palestinians (their political representatives) and their persistent Israel-bashing supporters - Eldar is among them - keep alive this ugly fable.

 (Sorry, I have no other words to express the hard nacked truth).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Really a pity that the Gazans elected the bunch of fanatic terrorists which are Hamas and cohorts, believing that their situation would improve. They actually have been and are cynically misused, exploited for belligerent irrational goals, hostages of a destructive policy of confrontation at all costs that led them in a blind alley. </p>
<p>Do the Palestinians want to lift the blockade and normalize their living conditions as well as the relations with their neighbours, Israel and Egypt? They should provide evidence that they are serious about reconciliation and peace: stop the hate education of the youth, release Shalit on just terms (not to get free hundreds of more terrorists), remove those  passages in the Charter which explicitly promise the destruction of Israel, stop the terror activities (called low intensity war) which, like a boomerang, affect the own civilian population. And accept the demands of the international community for a peaceful solution of the conflict.</p>
<p>Not willing? Only the &#8220;evil&#8221; Israel to blame for their &#8220;misery&#8221;? Then they should face the consequences resulting from the choice to fight against the designated evil enemy. </p>
<p>It&#8217;s a shame the Palestinians (their political representatives) and their persistent Israel-bashing supporters &#8211; Eldar is among them &#8211; keep alive this ugly fable.</p>
<p> (Sorry, I have no other words to express the hard nacked truth).</p>
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		<title>By: Ismail Zayid</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2010/01/gaza-in-plain-language/#comment-63793</link>
		<dc:creator>Ismail Zayid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jan 2010 19:22:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The assault on Gaza by a mighty military power, Israel, on a defenceless largely refugee population, defies credibility. This was inflicted on a population that has been already ravaged by Israeli occupation and siege, the vast majority of them is a population that have been dispossessed and cleansed from their homes, sixty years before. On top of this savage assault, they, as described in this excellent report, continue to be dnied access to all elements of basic human living, thanks to Israel, Egypt and the US. On top of that, we contiue to experience the deafening silence from the international community that should be calling and acting to bring this calamity to an end.
To Israel and Israelis nothing can be more accurate and shameful than the words of the Israeli prominent journalist, Akiva Eldar, in his article, titled: &quot;Israel&#039;s compassion in Haiti can&#039;t hide our ugly face in Gaza&quot; [Haaretz, Jan. 18, 2010].</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The assault on Gaza by a mighty military power, Israel, on a defenceless largely refugee population, defies credibility. This was inflicted on a population that has been already ravaged by Israeli occupation and siege, the vast majority of them is a population that have been dispossessed and cleansed from their homes, sixty years before. On top of this savage assault, they, as described in this excellent report, continue to be dnied access to all elements of basic human living, thanks to Israel, Egypt and the US. On top of that, we contiue to experience the deafening silence from the international community that should be calling and acting to bring this calamity to an end.<br />
To Israel and Israelis nothing can be more accurate and shameful than the words of the Israeli prominent journalist, Akiva Eldar, in his article, titled: &#8220;Israel&#8217;s compassion in Haiti can&#8217;t hide our ugly face in Gaza&#8221; [Haaretz, Jan. 18, 2010].</p>
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		<title>By: Rehmat</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2010/01/gaza-in-plain-language/#comment-63790</link>
		<dc:creator>Rehmat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jan 2010 18:14:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Israel being &quot;a victim&quot; is one of many myths created by Zionists to keep the westerners caged in their guilty conscience (the Holocaust stuff). The Zionist-regime tries to fool the world that Palestinians will never achieve anything unless they push for a non-violence movement - in other words, they should tie-down their hands behind their backs and take Irseli brutalities with a big smile.

Bono wish for a Palestinian Gandhi
http://rehmat1.wordpress.com/2010/01/19/bono-wish-for-a-palestinian-gandhi/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Israel being &#8220;a victim&#8221; is one of many myths created by Zionists to keep the westerners caged in their guilty conscience (the Holocaust stuff). The Zionist-regime tries to fool the world that Palestinians will never achieve anything unless they push for a non-violence movement &#8211; in other words, they should tie-down their hands behind their backs and take Irseli brutalities with a big smile.</p>
<p>Bono wish for a Palestinian Gandhi<br />
<a href="http://rehmat1.wordpress.com/2010/01/19/bono-wish-for-a-palestinian-gandhi/" rel="nofollow">http://rehmat1.wordpress.com/2010/01/19/bono-wish-for-a-palestinian-gandhi/</a></p>
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