Comments on: Anti-Israelism: Why Zionism Doesn’t and Can’t Get It

By: dan e

dan e — Sat, 30 Jan 2010 18:25:57 +0000

congrats to Kynaston for excellent pithy comment. As Bismarck said, “Blut und Boden”.

One pt: it’s not just AIPAC or “the Lobby”. The problem is much much larger. The Zionist Thought Police in the US is usually spearheaded by chapters of the Jewish Community Relations Councils/JCRCs, backed by Jewish Federation/”The Fed”, ADL, Bnai Brith and local synagogues of all persuasions except for anti-Zionist Neturei Karta. Of course the Thought Policing aka “maintenance of ideological hegemony” function is but one branch of the Israeli Fifth Column’s activities.
Probably the best overall descriptive term denoting what we’re talking about is Jas Petras’ “Zionist Power Configuration”/ZPC. (cf. his “The Power of Israel in the United States”, C larity Press, Atlanta 2006

By: kynaston

kynaston — Sat, 30 Jan 2010 14:15:23 +0000

Excellent article. One really malign element has been the influence of AIPAC in denying free expression both in the US and on the net in general – even to object to the constant murdering of Palestinian children is reacted to with yells of ‘anti-semite’ and demands – and actions – to silence the critics. That organisation seems to care only to gag honest criticism and bully politicians, and the result is to push people steadily away from any sympathy with their cause. It is as if they care only for the US right, and anyone else shoud shut up, or be shut up. I feel, more and more, that the origins in zionism in German nationalism and in the reaction to Hitler are showing up all too clearly as imitation. I also feel that the zionists – so long as they can keep that vital subsidy and political backing – WANT anti-Jewish feeling to spread, because it justifies their crimes. People of my generation who remember what happened to all the decent non-zionist Jewish people have been innoculated against the Hitlerfilth, but those to whom it is history have less restraint, I think, when they look at the monstrous lies and suppressions zionist colonialism involves. There are still very, very many Jewish people who stand up against this racist vomit, and I do hope more and more of the doubters will join them.

By: kalidas

kalidas — Fri, 29 Jan 2010 02:39:05 +0000

Pogo is justifiably famous for one statement alone.

“We have met the enemy and he is us.”

By: dan e

dan e — Fri, 29 Jan 2010 01:35:01 +0000

Pogo, yes…
Yes, Yes, what did he say? Please?

BTW, Bro. Strateshooter, I got no problem with this particular quote by Avneri, in fact it is IMHO a very good statement, but I DO have lots of problems with lots of other things he’s said. I’d call him a Very Liberal Zionist, since he seems to think “Isreal” is a country like other countries. He’s a little Unclear On The Concept which Mr Hart and Rehmat explain so eloquently. But thanks for posting the quote:)

By: Rehmat

Rehmat — Fri, 29 Jan 2010 00:56:17 +0000

Zionist-Arab conflict: It’s purely a secular conflict based on land grab. Zionism began as a rebellion against religious Judaismand at the outset most Orthodox Rabbis condemned Zionism as a blasphemous secularization of the land of Israel. Similarly, the ideology of PLO was secular. Unless a just polical solution can be found that is satisfactory to everyone, there is no hope for peace.

For many Muslims the plight of Palestinian represents everything that is wrong with the modern world. the fact that, in 1948, 750,000 Palestinian could loose their homes with apparent approval of the world symbolizes the impotence of Muslim world vis-a-vis the West.

Jewish occupation of Palestine has also become pivotal to Christian fundamentalists in the United States. The Christian Right believe that unless the Jews are in their land, fulfilling the ancient prophecies (distorted by Zionist sponsored Scofield Bible) – Christ cannot return in glory in the Second Coming. So they are passionate Zionists; but this idealogy is also anti-Jewish – because in the Last Days, they believe that Christ will massacre Jews in the Holy Land if they do not accet Baptism (convert to Christianity).

In the Balfour Declaration (1917), Britain approved of a Jewish homeland in Palestine and ignored the aspirations and plight of native Palestinian Muslims and Christians. And today the US supports Israel economically and politically and also tends to ignore the plight of Palestinians. This is dangerous, because Palestinians (over nine million) are not going to go away.

http://rehmat1.wordpress.com/2008/11/28/islam-myths-and-facts/

By: Straightshooter

Straightshooter — Thu, 28 Jan 2010 20:14:41 +0000

The wise words of Uri Avnery, renowned Israeli journalist and former member of the Knesset, come to mind:

“Many good people, who feel no hatred at all towards the Jews, but who detest the persecution of the Palestinians, are now called anti-Semites. Thus the sting is taken out of this word, giving it something approaching respectability. The practical upshot: not only does Israel not
protect the Jews from anti-Semitism, but quite on the contrary – Israel manufactures and exports anti-Semitism.”

By: Ismail Zayid

Ismail Zayid — Thu, 28 Jan 2010 18:39:34 +0000

Alan Hart’s analysis, of the tireless campaign that Zionist’s apologists contiue to carry out, in using the baseless charge of anti-Semitism against all those who criticise Israeli policies, is sound and substantial. However, Israel’s “misconduct” did not start in 1982, with Israeli invasion of Lebanon and the crimes comitted then. Israel’s crimes against the Palestinians and its Arab neighbours go back to the inception of the state of Israel and continue. This campaign by Israel’s unquestioning supporters, using the offensive charge of anti-Semitism against criticism of Israeli brutal policies, has devalued the significant meaning of this abhorent label.