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		<title>By: Don Hawkins</title>
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		<dc:creator>Don Hawkins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Dec 2009 21:29:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2009/dec/07/us-climate-carbon-emissions-danger
 
   
 
    Maybe what needs to be done is not happening but this helps a little. Now I can watch Glenn Beck roll around on the floor and kick and cry and draw lines on his black board as we all go down the drain in not such slow motion. I have to say as I watch Beck I usually read stuff from the book of knowledge and the other day as old Glenn was drawing lines on his black board like a maniac I think it was Marcus Aurelius,   

Frequently consider the connection of all things in the Universe. ... Reflect upon the multitude of bodily and mental events taking place in the same brief time, simultaneously in every one of us and so you will not be surprised that many more events, or rather all things that come to pass, exist simultaneously in the one and entire unity, which we call the Universe. ... We should not say ‘I am an Athenian’ or ‘I am a Roman’ but ‘I am a Citizen of the Universe&#039;. (Marcus Aurelius, 170AD)]]></description>
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<p>    Maybe what needs to be done is not happening but this helps a little. Now I can watch Glenn Beck roll around on the floor and kick and cry and draw lines on his black board as we all go down the drain in not such slow motion. I have to say as I watch Beck I usually read stuff from the book of knowledge and the other day as old Glenn was drawing lines on his black board like a maniac I think it was Marcus Aurelius,   </p>
<p>Frequently consider the connection of all things in the Universe. &#8230; Reflect upon the multitude of bodily and mental events taking place in the same brief time, simultaneously in every one of us and so you will not be surprised that many more events, or rather all things that come to pass, exist simultaneously in the one and entire unity, which we call the Universe. &#8230; We should not say ‘I am an Athenian’ or ‘I am a Roman’ but ‘I am a Citizen of the Universe&#8217;. (Marcus Aurelius, 170AD)</p>
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		<title>By: Sam Bolivar</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/12/terrorists/#comment-61629</link>
		<dc:creator>Sam Bolivar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Dec 2009 16:49:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@ Mikel Weisser:

A fine article. BTW, have you seen the following blog item?

http://theuglytruth.wordpress.com/2009/11/24/maj-nidal-hasan-as-a-manchurian-candidate-doesn%E2%80%99t-sound-as-crazy-today-as-it-might-have-yesterday/

&quot;Maj. Nidal Hasan As A Manchurian Candidate–Doesn’t Sound As Crazy
Today As It Might Have Yesterday&quot;
  Published November 24, 2009 


For peace &amp; justice,
Sam Bolivar
StrivingForJustice@yahoo.com]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Mikel Weisser:</p>
<p>A fine article. BTW, have you seen the following blog item?</p>
<p><a href="http://theuglytruth.wordpress.com/2009/11/24/maj-nidal-hasan-as-a-manchurian-candidate-doesn%E2%80%99t-sound-as-crazy-today-as-it-might-have-yesterday/" rel="nofollow">http://theuglytruth.wordpress.com/2009/11/24/maj-nidal-hasan-as-a-manchurian-candidate-doesn%E2%80%99t-sound-as-crazy-today-as-it-might-have-yesterday/</a></p>
<p>&#8220;Maj. Nidal Hasan As A Manchurian Candidate–Doesn’t Sound As Crazy<br />
Today As It Might Have Yesterday&#8221;<br />
  Published November 24, 2009 </p>
<p>For peace &amp; justice,<br />
Sam Bolivar<br />
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		<title>By: Don Hawkins</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/12/terrorists/#comment-61585</link>
		<dc:creator>Don Hawkins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Dec 2009 02:18:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Are we going to stand up and give global politicians a hard slap in the face, to make them
face the truth? It will take a lot of us – probably in the streets. Or are we going to let them
continue to kid themselves and us, and cheat our children and grandchildren?  James Hansen

   So far the vision from the global politicians is a new way of thinking, use the knowledge, reason, work together No it sure is not. Can we change there mind ask them to tale there soul back from the system it will take a lot of us can it be done? Al we know and can you get a permit George Soros feel up to the challenge Bill, Warren, let&#039;s do this change the system Hollywood tired of bullshit yet and those commercials you call that using your mind? One voice calm at peace or we are going down and down hard. Some changes we can&#039;t slow and some we can and yes a meteor could hit us or Yellowstone go let&#039;s try.  It has to start somewhere and so far nobody is doing that. Cap and trade is for wimps. What have we got to lose well blue in color round not flat and billions of years old and it will do just fine without us. A little pay cut well you can&#039;t buy what you don&#039;t have and you can&#039;t eat money.  Shocking isn&#039;t it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Are we going to stand up and give global politicians a hard slap in the face, to make them<br />
face the truth? It will take a lot of us – probably in the streets. Or are we going to let them<br />
continue to kid themselves and us, and cheat our children and grandchildren?  James Hansen</p>
<p>   So far the vision from the global politicians is a new way of thinking, use the knowledge, reason, work together No it sure is not. Can we change there mind ask them to tale there soul back from the system it will take a lot of us can it be done? Al we know and can you get a permit George Soros feel up to the challenge Bill, Warren, let&#8217;s do this change the system Hollywood tired of bullshit yet and those commercials you call that using your mind? One voice calm at peace or we are going down and down hard. Some changes we can&#8217;t slow and some we can and yes a meteor could hit us or Yellowstone go let&#8217;s try.  It has to start somewhere and so far nobody is doing that. Cap and trade is for wimps. What have we got to lose well blue in color round not flat and billions of years old and it will do just fine without us. A little pay cut well you can&#8217;t buy what you don&#8217;t have and you can&#8217;t eat money.  Shocking isn&#8217;t it.</p>
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		<title>By: Don Hawkins</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/12/terrorists/#comment-61575</link>
		<dc:creator>Don Hawkins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Dec 2009 00:46:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yes who are they well remember the movie the Matrix and agent Smith. Here is something I found on about dot com   
 
But for those who appreciate the philosophy of The Matrix, it is a wake-up call. The movie is considered to be far-ahead of its times. It challenges our understanding of perspective, reality and illusion, and many other intriguing concepts.
 
It challenges our understanding of perspective, reality and illusion now your talking my language. Heck let&#039;s go with intriguing concepts.  Let&#039;s take some words, quotes from the movie and change just a few words to challenge our understanding of perspective, reality and illusion can we do that?

Trinity: I know why you&#039;re here, Neo. I know what you&#039;ve been doing... why you hardly sleep, why you live alone, and why night after night, you sit by your computer. You&#039;re looking for him. I know because I was once looking for the same thing. And when he found me, he told me I wasn&#039;t really looking for him. I was looking for an answer. It&#039;s the question that drives us, Neo. It&#039;s the question that brought you here. You know the question, just as I did. 
 
{next is what Neo said but let&#039;s use we the people instead, &quot;we&quot; and the matrix just the system and Morpheus Let&#039;s call him James)   

We: What is the system?

James: I imagine that right now, you&#039;re feeling a bit like Alice. Hmm? Tumbling down the rabbit hole? 

 
We: You could say that. 

 
James: I see it in your eyes. You have the look of a man who accepts what he sees because he is expecting to wake up. Ironically, that&#039;s not far from the truth. Do you believe in fate? 

 
We: No. 

 
James: Why not? 

 
We: Because I don&#039;t like the idea that I&#039;m not in control of my life. 

 
James: I know *exactly* what you mean. Let me tell you why you&#039;re here. You&#039;re here because you know something. What you know you can&#039;t explain, but you feel it. You&#039;ve felt it your entire life, that there&#039;s something wrong with the world. You don&#039;t know what it is, but it&#039;s there, like a splinter in your mind, driving you mad. It is this feeling that has brought you to me. Do you know what I&#039;m talking about? 

 
We: The system. 

 
James: Do you want to know what it is? 

 
We: Yes. 

 
James: The system is everywhere. It is all around us. Even now, in this very room. You can see it when you look out your window or when you turn on your television. You can feel it when you go to work... when you go to church... when you pay your taxes. It is the world that has been pulled over your eyes to blind you from the truth. 

 
We: What truth? 

 
James: That you are a slave, Neo. Like everyone else you were born into bondage. Into a prison that you cannot taste or see or touch. A prison for your mind. 

James: I&#039;m trying to free your mind. But I can only show you the door. You&#039;re the one that has to walk through it. 

James: Free your mind. 

 
We: Whoa. 

We: Why do my eyes hurt? 

 
James: You&#039;ve never used them before. 

James: Sooner or later you&#039;re going to realize just as I did that there&#039;s a difference between knowing the path and walking the path. 

James: Have you ever had a dream, that you were so sure was real? What if you were unable to wake from that dream? How would you know the difference between the dream world and the real world? 

James: Welcome to the real world.
 
We: Yeah. That sounds like a really good deal. But I got a better one. How about... I give you the finger... and you give me my phone call? 

 
Agent Smith/who could it be: Mr. Anderson... you disappoint me. 

 
We: You can&#039;t scare me with this Gestapo crap. I know my rights. I want my phone call. 

 
Agent Smith/who could it be: Tell me, Mr. Anderson... what good is a phone call... if you&#039;re unable to speak?
 
Agent Smith/who could it be: The great James. We meet at last. 

 
James: And you are? 

 
Agent Smith/who could it be: A Smith. Agent Smith. 

 
James: You all look the same to me.
 
{last lines] 

We the people: I know you&#039;re out there. I can feel you now. I know that you&#039;re afraid... you&#039;re afraid of us. You&#039;re afraid of change. I don&#039;t know the future. I didn&#039;t come here to tell you how this is going to end. I came here to tell you how it&#039;s going to begin. I&#039;m going to hang up this phone, and then I&#039;m going to show these people what you don&#039;t want them to see. I&#039;m going to show them a world without you. A world without rules and controls, without borders or boundaries. A world where anything is possible. Where we go from there is a choice I leave to you. 
 
YES WE CAN!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes who are they well remember the movie the Matrix and agent Smith. Here is something I found on about dot com   </p>
<p>But for those who appreciate the philosophy of The Matrix, it is a wake-up call. The movie is considered to be far-ahead of its times. It challenges our understanding of perspective, reality and illusion, and many other intriguing concepts.</p>
<p>It challenges our understanding of perspective, reality and illusion now your talking my language. Heck let&#8217;s go with intriguing concepts.  Let&#8217;s take some words, quotes from the movie and change just a few words to challenge our understanding of perspective, reality and illusion can we do that?</p>
<p>Trinity: I know why you&#8217;re here, Neo. I know what you&#8217;ve been doing&#8230; why you hardly sleep, why you live alone, and why night after night, you sit by your computer. You&#8217;re looking for him. I know because I was once looking for the same thing. And when he found me, he told me I wasn&#8217;t really looking for him. I was looking for an answer. It&#8217;s the question that drives us, Neo. It&#8217;s the question that brought you here. You know the question, just as I did. </p>
<p>{next is what Neo said but let&#8217;s use we the people instead, &#8220;we&#8221; and the matrix just the system and Morpheus Let&#8217;s call him James)   </p>
<p>We: What is the system?</p>
<p>James: I imagine that right now, you&#8217;re feeling a bit like Alice. Hmm? Tumbling down the rabbit hole? </p>
<p>We: You could say that. </p>
<p>James: I see it in your eyes. You have the look of a man who accepts what he sees because he is expecting to wake up. Ironically, that&#8217;s not far from the truth. Do you believe in fate? </p>
<p>We: No. </p>
<p>James: Why not? </p>
<p>We: Because I don&#8217;t like the idea that I&#8217;m not in control of my life. </p>
<p>James: I know *exactly* what you mean. Let me tell you why you&#8217;re here. You&#8217;re here because you know something. What you know you can&#8217;t explain, but you feel it. You&#8217;ve felt it your entire life, that there&#8217;s something wrong with the world. You don&#8217;t know what it is, but it&#8217;s there, like a splinter in your mind, driving you mad. It is this feeling that has brought you to me. Do you know what I&#8217;m talking about? </p>
<p>We: The system. </p>
<p>James: Do you want to know what it is? </p>
<p>We: Yes. </p>
<p>James: The system is everywhere. It is all around us. Even now, in this very room. You can see it when you look out your window or when you turn on your television. You can feel it when you go to work&#8230; when you go to church&#8230; when you pay your taxes. It is the world that has been pulled over your eyes to blind you from the truth. </p>
<p>We: What truth? </p>
<p>James: That you are a slave, Neo. Like everyone else you were born into bondage. Into a prison that you cannot taste or see or touch. A prison for your mind. </p>
<p>James: I&#8217;m trying to free your mind. But I can only show you the door. You&#8217;re the one that has to walk through it. </p>
<p>James: Free your mind. </p>
<p>We: Whoa. </p>
<p>We: Why do my eyes hurt? </p>
<p>James: You&#8217;ve never used them before. </p>
<p>James: Sooner or later you&#8217;re going to realize just as I did that there&#8217;s a difference between knowing the path and walking the path. </p>
<p>James: Have you ever had a dream, that you were so sure was real? What if you were unable to wake from that dream? How would you know the difference between the dream world and the real world? </p>
<p>James: Welcome to the real world.</p>
<p>We: Yeah. That sounds like a really good deal. But I got a better one. How about&#8230; I give you the finger&#8230; and you give me my phone call? </p>
<p>Agent Smith/who could it be: Mr. Anderson&#8230; you disappoint me. </p>
<p>We: You can&#8217;t scare me with this Gestapo crap. I know my rights. I want my phone call. </p>
<p>Agent Smith/who could it be: Tell me, Mr. Anderson&#8230; what good is a phone call&#8230; if you&#8217;re unable to speak?</p>
<p>Agent Smith/who could it be: The great James. We meet at last. </p>
<p>James: And you are? </p>
<p>Agent Smith/who could it be: A Smith. Agent Smith. </p>
<p>James: You all look the same to me.</p>
<p>{last lines] </p>
<p>We the people: I know you&#8217;re out there. I can feel you now. I know that you&#8217;re afraid&#8230; you&#8217;re afraid of us. You&#8217;re afraid of change. I don&#8217;t know the future. I didn&#8217;t come here to tell you how this is going to end. I came here to tell you how it&#8217;s going to begin. I&#8217;m going to hang up this phone, and then I&#8217;m going to show these people what you don&#8217;t want them to see. I&#8217;m going to show them a world without you. A world without rules and controls, without borders or boundaries. A world where anything is possible. Where we go from there is a choice I leave to you. </p>
<p>YES WE CAN!</p>
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		<title>By: Don Hawkins</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/12/terrorists/#comment-61564</link>
		<dc:creator>Don Hawkins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Dec 2009 23:23:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Attempts have been made to break into the offices of one of Canada&#039;s leading climate scientists, it was revealed yesterday. The victim was Andrew Weaver, a University of Victoria scientist and a key contributor to the work of the Inter-governmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC). In one incident, an old computer was stolen and papers were disturbed.
In addition, individuals have attempted to impersonate technicians in a bid to access data from his office, said Weaver. The attempted breaches, on top of the hacking of files from British climate researcher Phil Jones, have heightened fears that climate-change deniers are mounting a campaign to discredit the work of leading meteorologists before the start of the Copenhagen climate summit tomorrow.
&quot;The key thing is to try to find anybody who&#039;s involved in any aspect of the IPCC and find something that you can … take out of context,&quot; said Weaver. The prospect of more break-ins and hacking has forced researchers to step up computer security.  Guardian 

  Individuals have attempted to impersonate technicians man it&#039;s getting ugly and in a short time I wonder who here in the States in the Senate will be attempted to impersonate. I wonder who are these climate-change deniers mounting a campaign your average citizen no they are on unemployment if they are lucky and so it goes and who wins?  The human race no all other life forms no. Who is the force the life forms who are good at impersonation, illusion who could it be?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Attempts have been made to break into the offices of one of Canada&#8217;s leading climate scientists, it was revealed yesterday. The victim was Andrew Weaver, a University of Victoria scientist and a key contributor to the work of the Inter-governmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC). In one incident, an old computer was stolen and papers were disturbed.<br />
In addition, individuals have attempted to impersonate technicians in a bid to access data from his office, said Weaver. The attempted breaches, on top of the hacking of files from British climate researcher Phil Jones, have heightened fears that climate-change deniers are mounting a campaign to discredit the work of leading meteorologists before the start of the Copenhagen climate summit tomorrow.<br />
&#8220;The key thing is to try to find anybody who&#8217;s involved in any aspect of the IPCC and find something that you can … take out of context,&#8221; said Weaver. The prospect of more break-ins and hacking has forced researchers to step up computer security.  Guardian </p>
<p>  Individuals have attempted to impersonate technicians man it&#8217;s getting ugly and in a short time I wonder who here in the States in the Senate will be attempted to impersonate. I wonder who are these climate-change deniers mounting a campaign your average citizen no they are on unemployment if they are lucky and so it goes and who wins?  The human race no all other life forms no. Who is the force the life forms who are good at impersonation, illusion who could it be?</p>
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		<title>By: Mulga Mumblebrain</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/12/terrorists/#comment-61557</link>
		<dc:creator>Mulga Mumblebrain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Dec 2009 21:48:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[B99, my point is that the US military is a killing machine that operates with impunity in destoying the lives of millions. The US, in its narcissistic and racist self-delusion, imagines that it can safely launch killing expeditions around the world, targeting men, women and children, from the safety of the &#039;homeland&#039;. The sooner it is disabused of that conceit, the sooner the world will be made safe from Yankee bloodlust. If Hasan had murdered civilians I could not support him, but ,in that he targeted potential killers or the enablers of killers, he was, in my opinion, legitimate, especially as he had inside information from his patients of the nature of the psychotic sadism visited on the people of Iraq and Afghanistan. So long as the US military sees fit to launch Hellfire missiles from airmchairs safe within the US &#039;homeland&#039;, those bases must be legitimate targets for any who see the murder of sleeping children, or simple peasant folk at weddings and funerals, as crimes against humanity, as I certainly do.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>B99, my point is that the US military is a killing machine that operates with impunity in destoying the lives of millions. The US, in its narcissistic and racist self-delusion, imagines that it can safely launch killing expeditions around the world, targeting men, women and children, from the safety of the &#8216;homeland&#8217;. The sooner it is disabused of that conceit, the sooner the world will be made safe from Yankee bloodlust. If Hasan had murdered civilians I could not support him, but ,in that he targeted potential killers or the enablers of killers, he was, in my opinion, legitimate, especially as he had inside information from his patients of the nature of the psychotic sadism visited on the people of Iraq and Afghanistan. So long as the US military sees fit to launch Hellfire missiles from airmchairs safe within the US &#8216;homeland&#8217;, those bases must be legitimate targets for any who see the murder of sleeping children, or simple peasant folk at weddings and funerals, as crimes against humanity, as I certainly do.</p>
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		<title>By: B99</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/12/terrorists/#comment-61535</link>
		<dc:creator>B99</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Dec 2009 18:12:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I don&#039;t buy it Mulga - whatever Hasan knew or knows.  Certainly, Obama and Bush and Blair and... (fill in name) are criminals and practitioners of state terrorism.  But from what I read of this guy, he&#039;s just bad news - for Muslims, if no one else (well, certainly for the families of those he wasted).  For one thing, if you have any sense of justice, you don&#039;t join the military, especially  the American military, whose mission to control the Middle East is practically it&#039;s raison d&#039;etre.  He was also pretty much a zero on psychological help for anyone - and should have been removed from such a pretense long ago.  No more good can come out of muddle-headed Quranic athletes than those who masturbate to the Bible or Talmud.  I can&#039;t help but see him as a whack job  that snapped. Otherwise he&#039;d have made himself more useful in another venue.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t buy it Mulga &#8211; whatever Hasan knew or knows.  Certainly, Obama and Bush and Blair and&#8230; (fill in name) are criminals and practitioners of state terrorism.  But from what I read of this guy, he&#8217;s just bad news &#8211; for Muslims, if no one else (well, certainly for the families of those he wasted).  For one thing, if you have any sense of justice, you don&#8217;t join the military, especially  the American military, whose mission to control the Middle East is practically it&#8217;s raison d&#8217;etre.  He was also pretty much a zero on psychological help for anyone &#8211; and should have been removed from such a pretense long ago.  No more good can come out of muddle-headed Quranic athletes than those who masturbate to the Bible or Talmud.  I can&#8217;t help but see him as a whack job  that snapped. Otherwise he&#8217;d have made himself more useful in another venue.</p>
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		<title>By: Mulga Mumblebrain</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/12/terrorists/#comment-61529</link>
		<dc:creator>Mulga Mumblebrain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Dec 2009 17:18:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hasan had first-hand experience of the truth of US military atrocities in Iraq. These, as we know from various sources, including returning US military, have been widespread, insanely sadistic and almost universally unpunished. Rather like those other heroes of &#039;Western Civilization&#039; the Israelis. And similar revelations are emerging of atrocities by the British. In the face of an unending War of Terror against the Islamic Middle East, with millions of deaths, injuries and exiles, so far, and the clear intention that it be intensified and spread to Iran and Pakistan, Hasan&#039;s actions, in my opinion, were plainly not only understandable, but praiseworthy. He struck at the heart of the US military death-machine, that usually enjoys immunity from reprisal, safe, thousands of miles from where its victims, men, women and children, are obliterated, tortured and tormented. One omnipresent feature of murderous racists is that they feel no compunction in slaughtering the sub-humans that get in their way (in fact they thoroughly enjoy it) but if the untermenschen ever strike back, the racists&#039; fury at the affront to their delusions of invulnerability is profound, and deeply hypocritical.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hasan had first-hand experience of the truth of US military atrocities in Iraq. These, as we know from various sources, including returning US military, have been widespread, insanely sadistic and almost universally unpunished. Rather like those other heroes of &#8216;Western Civilization&#8217; the Israelis. And similar revelations are emerging of atrocities by the British. In the face of an unending War of Terror against the Islamic Middle East, with millions of deaths, injuries and exiles, so far, and the clear intention that it be intensified and spread to Iran and Pakistan, Hasan&#8217;s actions, in my opinion, were plainly not only understandable, but praiseworthy. He struck at the heart of the US military death-machine, that usually enjoys immunity from reprisal, safe, thousands of miles from where its victims, men, women and children, are obliterated, tortured and tormented. One omnipresent feature of murderous racists is that they feel no compunction in slaughtering the sub-humans that get in their way (in fact they thoroughly enjoy it) but if the untermenschen ever strike back, the racists&#8217; fury at the affront to their delusions of invulnerability is profound, and deeply hypocritical.</p>
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		<title>By: B99</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/12/terrorists/#comment-61525</link>
		<dc:creator>B99</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Dec 2009 16:40:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I don&#039;t know - I can&#039;t work up any sympathy for this misfit nut-job.  You don&#039;t be reading the Koran at psychology meetings, you don&#039;t be derelict in your duties as a trained professional unless you are going to take a principled stance - which shooting your fellow travelers is definitely not.  And what voice in his head told him it would be good for Muslims for a Muslim to shoot up Christians?  Who&#039;d want this guy as their psychologist?  What was Ft Hood - a summer camp for the troubled ?  Get him the fuck out the army.  Too late now, he exited on his own terms.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know &#8211; I can&#8217;t work up any sympathy for this misfit nut-job.  You don&#8217;t be reading the Koran at psychology meetings, you don&#8217;t be derelict in your duties as a trained professional unless you are going to take a principled stance &#8211; which shooting your fellow travelers is definitely not.  And what voice in his head told him it would be good for Muslims for a Muslim to shoot up Christians?  Who&#8217;d want this guy as their psychologist?  What was Ft Hood &#8211; a summer camp for the troubled ?  Get him the fuck out the army.  Too late now, he exited on his own terms.</p>
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		<title>By: Don Hawkins</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/12/terrorists/#comment-61521</link>
		<dc:creator>Don Hawkins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Dec 2009 16:05:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The most foolish no-fighting-spirit statement, made by scores of people, is this: “we have
already passed the tipping point, it is too late.”
 
Is it feasible to phase out coal and avoid use of unconventional fossil fuels? Yes, but only
if governments face up to the truth: as long as fossil fuels are the cheapest energy, their use will
continue and even increase on a global basis. Fossil fuels are cheapest because they are not made
to pay for their effects on human health, the environment, and future climate.
Governments must place a uniform rising price on carbon, collected at the fossil fuel
source – the mine or port of entry. The fee should be given to the public in toto, as a uniform
dividend, payroll tax deduction, or both. Such a tax is progressive – the dividend exceeds added
energy costs for 60 percent of the public. Fee-and-dividend stimulates the economy, providing
the public the means to adjust lifestyles and energy infrastructure.
Fee-and-dividend can begin with the countries now considering cap-and-trade. Other
countries will either agree to a carbon fee or have duties placed on their products that are made
with fossil fuels. As the carbon price rises, most coal, tar sands and oil shale will be left in the
ground. The market place will determine the roles of energy efficiency, renewable energy, and
nuclear power in our clean energy future.  James Hansen
 
  So far what we see is the easy way out for who only a few and what is the reason we can&#039;t even think about what James Hansen said and a few more for a big 15 seconds, why?  Because it would change the elaborate scheming and intrigue; devious; methods for holding on to his chairmanship and those deals and cozy arrangements. How about massive domes with square bases, please.  Then the system that has so many labyrinthine internal interconnections that it would be impossible to simplify by separation into loosely coupled or linked components might have to change a tad and a bureaucratic overelaboration bordering on lunacy: quadruple banked agencies, dozens or even scores of superfluous levels and officials with high flown titles unrelated to their actual function and access to the Emperor and his council not powerful and inscrutable eunuchs and by rival sports factions but the man behind the curtain it&#039;s only business and the people we see on Fox New&#039;s if they get back in power in say 2012 will change all that, hay I have some ocean front property in Florida, Orlando I would like to sell you granted may take a few years but such a deal. Hay Mr. Beck put that on your black board and please no crying if you do.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The most foolish no-fighting-spirit statement, made by scores of people, is this: “we have<br />
already passed the tipping point, it is too late.”</p>
<p>Is it feasible to phase out coal and avoid use of unconventional fossil fuels? Yes, but only<br />
if governments face up to the truth: as long as fossil fuels are the cheapest energy, their use will<br />
continue and even increase on a global basis. Fossil fuels are cheapest because they are not made<br />
to pay for their effects on human health, the environment, and future climate.<br />
Governments must place a uniform rising price on carbon, collected at the fossil fuel<br />
source – the mine or port of entry. The fee should be given to the public in toto, as a uniform<br />
dividend, payroll tax deduction, or both. Such a tax is progressive – the dividend exceeds added<br />
energy costs for 60 percent of the public. Fee-and-dividend stimulates the economy, providing<br />
the public the means to adjust lifestyles and energy infrastructure.<br />
Fee-and-dividend can begin with the countries now considering cap-and-trade. Other<br />
countries will either agree to a carbon fee or have duties placed on their products that are made<br />
with fossil fuels. As the carbon price rises, most coal, tar sands and oil shale will be left in the<br />
ground. The market place will determine the roles of energy efficiency, renewable energy, and<br />
nuclear power in our clean energy future.  James Hansen</p>
<p>  So far what we see is the easy way out for who only a few and what is the reason we can&#8217;t even think about what James Hansen said and a few more for a big 15 seconds, why?  Because it would change the elaborate scheming and intrigue; devious; methods for holding on to his chairmanship and those deals and cozy arrangements. How about massive domes with square bases, please.  Then the system that has so many labyrinthine internal interconnections that it would be impossible to simplify by separation into loosely coupled or linked components might have to change a tad and a bureaucratic overelaboration bordering on lunacy: quadruple banked agencies, dozens or even scores of superfluous levels and officials with high flown titles unrelated to their actual function and access to the Emperor and his council not powerful and inscrutable eunuchs and by rival sports factions but the man behind the curtain it&#8217;s only business and the people we see on Fox New&#8217;s if they get back in power in say 2012 will change all that, hay I have some ocean front property in Florida, Orlando I would like to sell you granted may take a few years but such a deal. Hay Mr. Beck put that on your black board and please no crying if you do.</p>
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		<title>By: Don Hawkins</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/12/terrorists/#comment-61520</link>
		<dc:creator>Don Hawkins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Dec 2009 15:32:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Feinstein the Senator from California was just on CNN and said she thinks there are some people in Afghanistan that are not corrupt and there are people over there who put acid in people&#039;s faces and shoot them in the back of the head men and women and with luck we can teach them to be good people and grow up to be good human beings. First California her State is in deep do do for more reasons than one. They are trying in some way&#039;s like on climate change and very sure many parts of California will be uninhabitable in the near future. Then she get&#039;s to go back to the Senate with first health care a watered down bill and all done under the laws of the constitution and any corruption well no all very legal under the constitution the old man behind the curtain who in this case work for the status quo. Next climate change bill a joke on the human race all 6.8 billion and not acid in the face but just more stupidity in the mind our mind the little people a lot of names for that but misinformation work&#039;s. To put acid in someone&#039;s face is nut&#039;s but the power these people have under the constitution and with what we now know it will effect millions then billions as a start. Yes the old American dream to grow up and maybe you can be a good person in the Senate a Senator and get a free lunch and give other people a free lunch as you tell people ignorance is strength and war is peace. Let&#039;s see does Fox New&#039;s and most of the people we see on there want health care or cap and trade, ah no. So the people who want a watered down health care bill and cap and trade a joke on all of us is the best they can do and some don&#039;t want any of it and the man behind the curtain is saying hay come hear I have money for you.   Oh dear
 
  
characterized by elaborate scheming and intrigue; devious; “byzantine methods for holding on to his chairmanship”; “a fine hand for byzantine deals and cozy arrangements” [syn: byzantine]
n : the style of architecture developed in the byzantine empire; massive domes with square bases 

A term describing any system that has so many labyrinthine internal interconnections that it would be impossible to simplify by separation into loosely coupled or linked components.
The city of Byzantium, later renamed Constantinople and then Istanbul, and the Byzantine Empire were vitiated by a bureaucratic overelaboration bordering on lunacy: quadruple banked agencies, dozens or even scores of superfluous levels and officials with high flown titles unrelated to their actual function, if any.
Access to the Emperor and his council was controlled by powerful and inscrutable eunuchs and by rival sports factions.
[Edward Gibbon, &quot;Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire&quot;].
(1999-01-15) 

The SOS distress signal is actually an unbroken series of three-dots/three-dashes/three-dots, without internal letter spacing.

All the calls about why didn’t anybody catch the warning signals? Oh they know the signals alright.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Feinstein the Senator from California was just on CNN and said she thinks there are some people in Afghanistan that are not corrupt and there are people over there who put acid in people&#8217;s faces and shoot them in the back of the head men and women and with luck we can teach them to be good people and grow up to be good human beings. First California her State is in deep do do for more reasons than one. They are trying in some way&#8217;s like on climate change and very sure many parts of California will be uninhabitable in the near future. Then she get&#8217;s to go back to the Senate with first health care a watered down bill and all done under the laws of the constitution and any corruption well no all very legal under the constitution the old man behind the curtain who in this case work for the status quo. Next climate change bill a joke on the human race all 6.8 billion and not acid in the face but just more stupidity in the mind our mind the little people a lot of names for that but misinformation work&#8217;s. To put acid in someone&#8217;s face is nut&#8217;s but the power these people have under the constitution and with what we now know it will effect millions then billions as a start. Yes the old American dream to grow up and maybe you can be a good person in the Senate a Senator and get a free lunch and give other people a free lunch as you tell people ignorance is strength and war is peace. Let&#8217;s see does Fox New&#8217;s and most of the people we see on there want health care or cap and trade, ah no. So the people who want a watered down health care bill and cap and trade a joke on all of us is the best they can do and some don&#8217;t want any of it and the man behind the curtain is saying hay come hear I have money for you.   Oh dear</p>
<p>characterized by elaborate scheming and intrigue; devious; “byzantine methods for holding on to his chairmanship”; “a fine hand for byzantine deals and cozy arrangements” [syn: byzantine]<br />
n : the style of architecture developed in the byzantine empire; massive domes with square bases </p>
<p>A term describing any system that has so many labyrinthine internal interconnections that it would be impossible to simplify by separation into loosely coupled or linked components.<br />
The city of Byzantium, later renamed Constantinople and then Istanbul, and the Byzantine Empire were vitiated by a bureaucratic overelaboration bordering on lunacy: quadruple banked agencies, dozens or even scores of superfluous levels and officials with high flown titles unrelated to their actual function, if any.<br />
Access to the Emperor and his council was controlled by powerful and inscrutable eunuchs and by rival sports factions.<br />
[Edward Gibbon, "Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire"].<br />
(1999-01-15) </p>
<p>The SOS distress signal is actually an unbroken series of three-dots/three-dashes/three-dots, without internal letter spacing.</p>
<p>All the calls about why didn’t anybody catch the warning signals? Oh they know the signals alright.</p>
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		<title>By: bozh</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/12/terrorists/#comment-61517</link>
		<dc:creator>bozh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Dec 2009 13:55:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Weisser, like so many of pols-journalists, dwell solely on symptoms of what is wrong with US.
And why not? After all, in the eyes of 99.99% of amers, there,  fundamentally, is narry a thing wrong with US.
In fact, US constitution-governance [the fundament] is to ?all americans actually sacrosant.

And when wrongs are perped it is always fault of clinton, johnson, bush, and now obama. 
With this manner of thinking we can expect more wars not fewer or no wars, the worst hells or torture. tnx]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Weisser, like so many of pols-journalists, dwell solely on symptoms of what is wrong with US.<br />
And why not? After all, in the eyes of 99.99% of amers, there,  fundamentally, is narry a thing wrong with US.<br />
In fact, US constitution-governance [the fundament] is to ?all americans actually sacrosant.</p>
<p>And when wrongs are perped it is always fault of clinton, johnson, bush, and now obama.<br />
With this manner of thinking we can expect more wars not fewer or no wars, the worst hells or torture. tnx</p>
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		<title>By: Don Hawkins</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/12/terrorists/#comment-61511</link>
		<dc:creator>Don Hawkins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Dec 2009 11:54:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You’d never know it if you saw what was ending up in your landfill. As it turns out, Americans waste an astounding amount of food — an estimated 27 percent of the food available for consumption, according to a government study — and it happens at the supermarket, in restaurants and cafeterias and in your very own kitchen. It works out to about a pound of food every day for every American.

Food has long been relatively cheap, and portions were increasingly huge. With so much news about how fat everyone was getting — 66 percent of adult Americans are overweight or obese, according to 2003-04 government health survey — there was a compelling argument to be made that it was better to toss the leftover deep-dish pizza than eat it again the next day.

With the current food crisis, it seems possible that the issue of food waste might have more traction this time around.  NYT

   The old government study and 27% that number might be a little higher. The issue of food waste might have more traction this time around. You can say that again. Capitalism what a system and then of course energy use might have more traction this time around. Consume consume consume we need to keep America the greatest nation on Earth for the children. Yes the greatest nation on Earth where you can become what you want the old American dream and it is a dream even President yes we can or maybe work at Goldman where the motto could be waste not want not is it Monday in Copenhagen yet but now that I think about it Goldman to work there if they can pass the cap and trade bill here in the States all that money and I could leave the farm and play golf no knowing me I would say four then three then two and probably a little talking to by the boss we say four here not three not two wise up you can be replaced. Yes sir love that suit your wearing and should I go back to work now working on a little insurance thing now as I get a wink and a nod from the big cheese. God&#039;s work.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You’d never know it if you saw what was ending up in your landfill. As it turns out, Americans waste an astounding amount of food — an estimated 27 percent of the food available for consumption, according to a government study — and it happens at the supermarket, in restaurants and cafeterias and in your very own kitchen. It works out to about a pound of food every day for every American.</p>
<p>Food has long been relatively cheap, and portions were increasingly huge. With so much news about how fat everyone was getting — 66 percent of adult Americans are overweight or obese, according to 2003-04 government health survey — there was a compelling argument to be made that it was better to toss the leftover deep-dish pizza than eat it again the next day.</p>
<p>With the current food crisis, it seems possible that the issue of food waste might have more traction this time around.  NYT</p>
<p>   The old government study and 27% that number might be a little higher. The issue of food waste might have more traction this time around. You can say that again. Capitalism what a system and then of course energy use might have more traction this time around. Consume consume consume we need to keep America the greatest nation on Earth for the children. Yes the greatest nation on Earth where you can become what you want the old American dream and it is a dream even President yes we can or maybe work at Goldman where the motto could be waste not want not is it Monday in Copenhagen yet but now that I think about it Goldman to work there if they can pass the cap and trade bill here in the States all that money and I could leave the farm and play golf no knowing me I would say four then three then two and probably a little talking to by the boss we say four here not three not two wise up you can be replaced. Yes sir love that suit your wearing and should I go back to work now working on a little insurance thing now as I get a wink and a nod from the big cheese. God&#8217;s work.</p>
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		<title>By: Don Hawkins</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/12/terrorists/#comment-61488</link>
		<dc:creator>Don Hawkins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Dec 2009 02:51:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thank&#039;s Mikel same to you and more of it. I remember when I first started to write I would write something then say to myself can I say that? Anyway now I know how Obama feels after he won the peace prize sort of. Get ready much more the Sun revolves around the Earth on a grade scale and oh that stupidity or another way to put it lying like dogs. At Copenhagen maybe James Inhofe will ask Hansen or Wadhams ok if the ice melts it will come back right. Yes Mr. Inhofe now go sit over by the fireplace and here&#039;s a nice cup of coffee.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank&#8217;s Mikel same to you and more of it. I remember when I first started to write I would write something then say to myself can I say that? Anyway now I know how Obama feels after he won the peace prize sort of. Get ready much more the Sun revolves around the Earth on a grade scale and oh that stupidity or another way to put it lying like dogs. At Copenhagen maybe James Inhofe will ask Hansen or Wadhams ok if the ice melts it will come back right. Yes Mr. Inhofe now go sit over by the fireplace and here&#8217;s a nice cup of coffee.</p>
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		<title>By: mikel weisser</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/12/terrorists/#comment-61485</link>
		<dc:creator>mikel weisser</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Dec 2009 01:53:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Don Hawkins, 

You do me great honor with such eloquent and informing defenses. I will work to earn your support.
thank you,
mikel]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don Hawkins, </p>
<p>You do me great honor with such eloquent and informing defenses. I will work to earn your support.<br />
thank you,<br />
mikel</p>
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		<title>By: Don Hawkins</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/12/terrorists/#comment-61467</link>
		<dc:creator>Don Hawkins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Dec 2009 22:33:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/10/091008152242.htm
 
  Read this then have a cup of coffee and just think a few minutes. The Internet the old world wide web is an amazing thing the book of knowledge and the human mind still has it beat for now. The hardest part is still to find the truth if that is what you are looking for. I guess we could say we don&#039;t get it but that&#039;s a little to easy in the finial equation I guess the good the bad and the ugly. Maybe we should add stuck on stupid. 
 
  Here&#039;s a comment someone put on DV along time ago I don&#039;t remember her name.
 
 one gigantic boat, we are all in it together. some rich, some poor, some supposed to be our smart ones, but it seems the dumb have figured out whats going on, but feel powerless to do anything about it! theres a behind the scene agenda, been there since time imortal. ok, you smart ones, what do we do about it? it’s only about good verses evil, who can change a mans heart!!!!!!!!! that&#039;s really the bottom line, its the human heart condition!!!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/10/091008152242.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/10/091008152242.htm</a></p>
<p>  Read this then have a cup of coffee and just think a few minutes. The Internet the old world wide web is an amazing thing the book of knowledge and the human mind still has it beat for now. The hardest part is still to find the truth if that is what you are looking for. I guess we could say we don&#8217;t get it but that&#8217;s a little to easy in the finial equation I guess the good the bad and the ugly. Maybe we should add stuck on stupid. </p>
<p>  Here&#8217;s a comment someone put on DV along time ago I don&#8217;t remember her name.</p>
<p> one gigantic boat, we are all in it together. some rich, some poor, some supposed to be our smart ones, but it seems the dumb have figured out whats going on, but feel powerless to do anything about it! theres a behind the scene agenda, been there since time imortal. ok, you smart ones, what do we do about it? it’s only about good verses evil, who can change a mans heart!!!!!!!!! that&#8217;s really the bottom line, its the human heart condition!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Don Hawkins</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/12/terrorists/#comment-61466</link>
		<dc:creator>Don Hawkins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Dec 2009 22:14:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If you hear this message
Wherever you stand
I&#039;m calling every woman
Calling ever man

We&#039;re the generation
We can&#039;t afford to wait
The future started yesterday
And we&#039;re already late

John Legend 

Bleeding-heart liberal maybe so and the The future started yesterday
And we&#039;re already late in the course of human event&#039;s right up there with Rome and before human&#039;s the Dinosaurs. Anyway so far what are we doing going shopping, vote oh there&#039;s a good one, sporting event&#039;s and 6 dollars for a drink not me. TV well for me maybe the history Channel.  A moon shot then off to Mars and beyond. Well without that moon shot kind of we are not going to Mars. We did find water on the moon and we&#039;re already late. 
 
The SOS distress signal is actually an unbroken series of three-dots/three-dashes/three-dots, without internal letter spacing.

All the calls about why didn’t anybody catch the warning signals?  Oh they know the signals alright.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you hear this message<br />
Wherever you stand<br />
I&#8217;m calling every woman<br />
Calling ever man</p>
<p>We&#8217;re the generation<br />
We can&#8217;t afford to wait<br />
The future started yesterday<br />
And we&#8217;re already late</p>
<p>John Legend </p>
<p>Bleeding-heart liberal maybe so and the The future started yesterday<br />
And we&#8217;re already late in the course of human event&#8217;s right up there with Rome and before human&#8217;s the Dinosaurs. Anyway so far what are we doing going shopping, vote oh there&#8217;s a good one, sporting event&#8217;s and 6 dollars for a drink not me. TV well for me maybe the history Channel.  A moon shot then off to Mars and beyond. Well without that moon shot kind of we are not going to Mars. We did find water on the moon and we&#8217;re already late. </p>
<p>The SOS distress signal is actually an unbroken series of three-dots/three-dashes/three-dots, without internal letter spacing.</p>
<p>All the calls about why didn’t anybody catch the warning signals?  Oh they know the signals alright.</p>
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		<title>By: Don Hawkins</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/12/terrorists/#comment-61462</link>
		<dc:creator>Don Hawkins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Dec 2009 21:27:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[characterized by elaborate scheming and intrigue; devious; &quot;byzantine methods for holding on to his chairmanship&quot;; &quot;a fine hand for byzantine deals and cozy arrangements&quot; [syn: byzantine]
n : the style of architecture developed in the byzantine empire; massive domes with square bases 
 
  A term describing any system that has so many labyrinthine internal interconnections that it would be impossible to simplify by separation into loosely coupled or linked components.
The city of Byzantium, later renamed Constantinople and then Istanbul, and the Byzantine Empire were vitiated by a bureaucratic overelaboration bordering on lunacy: quadruple banked agencies, dozens or even scores of superfluous levels and officials with high flown titles unrelated to their actual function, if any.
Access to the Emperor and his council was controlled by powerful and inscrutable eunuchs and by rival sports factions.
[Edward Gibbon, &quot;Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire&quot;].
(1999-01-15)
 
  And what does this have to do with the article well, Remember all the calls about why didn’t anybody catch the warning signals?  Access to the Emperor and his council was controlled by powerful and inscrutable eunuchs and by rival sports factions, fascinating. .]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>characterized by elaborate scheming and intrigue; devious; &#8220;byzantine methods for holding on to his chairmanship&#8221;; &#8220;a fine hand for byzantine deals and cozy arrangements&#8221; [syn: byzantine]<br />
n : the style of architecture developed in the byzantine empire; massive domes with square bases </p>
<p>  A term describing any system that has so many labyrinthine internal interconnections that it would be impossible to simplify by separation into loosely coupled or linked components.<br />
The city of Byzantium, later renamed Constantinople and then Istanbul, and the Byzantine Empire were vitiated by a bureaucratic overelaboration bordering on lunacy: quadruple banked agencies, dozens or even scores of superfluous levels and officials with high flown titles unrelated to their actual function, if any.<br />
Access to the Emperor and his council was controlled by powerful and inscrutable eunuchs and by rival sports factions.<br />
[Edward Gibbon, "Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire"].<br />
(1999-01-15)</p>
<p>  And what does this have to do with the article well, Remember all the calls about why didn’t anybody catch the warning signals?  Access to the Emperor and his council was controlled by powerful and inscrutable eunuchs and by rival sports factions, fascinating. .</p>
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		<title>By: Don Hawkins</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/12/terrorists/#comment-61457</link>
		<dc:creator>Don Hawkins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Dec 2009 20:45:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Convoluted thoughts;

convoluted - highly complex or intricate and occasionally devious; &quot;the Byzantine tax structure&quot;; &quot;Byzantine methods for holding on to his chairmanship&quot;; &quot;convoluted legal language&quot;; &quot;convoluted reasoning&quot;; &quot;the plot was too involved&quot;; &quot;a knotty problem&quot;; &quot;got his way by labyrinthine maneuvering&quot;; &quot;Oh, what a tangled web we weave&quot;- Sir Walter Scott; &quot;tortuous legal procedures&quot;; &quot;tortuous negotiations lasting for months&quot;

  Yes in the first part of the twenty first century we don&#039;t see convoluted thoughts no none of that. It does seem to be highly complex and sure at least one or two degrees to understand.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Convoluted thoughts;</p>
<p>convoluted &#8211; highly complex or intricate and occasionally devious; &#8220;the Byzantine tax structure&#8221;; &#8220;Byzantine methods for holding on to his chairmanship&#8221;; &#8220;convoluted legal language&#8221;; &#8220;convoluted reasoning&#8221;; &#8220;the plot was too involved&#8221;; &#8220;a knotty problem&#8221;; &#8220;got his way by labyrinthine maneuvering&#8221;; &#8220;Oh, what a tangled web we weave&#8221;- Sir Walter Scott; &#8220;tortuous legal procedures&#8221;; &#8220;tortuous negotiations lasting for months&#8221;</p>
<p>  Yes in the first part of the twenty first century we don&#8217;t see convoluted thoughts no none of that. It does seem to be highly complex and sure at least one or two degrees to understand.</p>
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		<title>By: Van</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/12/terrorists/#comment-61417</link>
		<dc:creator>Van</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Dec 2009 16:53:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If ever one was needed, this article is a glaring example of the convoluted thoughts and writings of a &#039;bleeding-heart liberal.&#039;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If ever one was needed, this article is a glaring example of the convoluted thoughts and writings of a &#8216;bleeding-heart liberal.&#8217;</p>
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