Rules of Human Decency Apply to Israelis Too

A Dose of Their Own (Academic) Medicine Might Help the Message Sink in

Poor Berlanty. What did she do to deserve this crushing blow to her hopes and life chances?

The Israeli High Court has denied her justice — again — and prevented Berlanty Azzam returning to Bethlehem University for the final few weeks to complete her degree.

On 28 October this Christian student at the Vatican-sponsored Bethlehem University was abducted by the IDF, “the world’s most moral army”, after attending a job interview in Ramalla, then blindfolded and handcuffed and dumped in Gaza. She had lived in the West Bank since 2005 after being granted a permit.

There was only one kind of permit available in 2005 — an entry permit to Israel. But the Israeli State claimed that this permit was insufficient and Berlanty should have obtained some other permit, even though the State admits that none existed at the time.

State representatives took her permit, a key piece of evidence, and never produced it to the Court. After six weeks of double-talk the Court accepted the State’s claim that Berlanty entered the West Bank illegally. We hear a lot about how independent Israel’s justice system is. Here’s proof, if any were needed, that it is simply a tool of the military.

To avoid accusations that her residence was not Bethlehem, Berlanty had for the last four years resisted the temptation to return to Gaza and visit her folks. She and her parents submitted numerous applications to change the Gaza address recorded on her identity card to her actual place of residence, Bethlehem, but to no avail. Israel controls the Palestinian population registry and refuses to register changes in address from the Gaza Strip to the West Bank — another example of how Gazans are effectively imprisoned.

This, of course, is in breach of her human rights. The West Bank and the Gaza Strip are internationally recognized as one integral territory and under international law everyone has the right to freely choose their place of residence within a single territory. In 1999 Israel and the Palestinian Authority signed an agreement establishing a 28 mile road corridor giving Palestinians safe passage between the two parts of Palestine — yet another empty gesture.

“We are disappointed that the Israeli military and High Court have interfered with the Church’s educational mission at Bethlehem University by denying Berlanty to be brought back to Bethlehem to complete her studies,” said Brother Peter Bray, the Vice Chancellor, on hearing the Court ruling. “We realize that Berlanty is one of the many people in Gaza who suffer so unjustly.”

Indeed. Since 2000 Israel has implemented a sweeping ban preventing youngsters from Gaza from studying at Palestinian universities in the West Bank. A 2007 High Court decision determined that students from Gaza wishing to study in the West Bank should be allowed to do so “in cases that would have positive humanitarian implications”.

However, to the best of her legal team’s knowledge, since that judgment was handed down Israel hasn’t issued a single entry permit. Only last summer 12 students from Gaza were refused permits to study at Bethlehem University. Back in the late 1990s, about 1,000 students from Gaza studied in the West Bank, most of them in disciplines that are not offered in the Gaza Strip.

Like Berlanty, an estimated 25,000 people currently living in the West Bank have been declared “illegal” by Israel solely because the address on their identity card is in the Gaza Strip. Some of them have lived in the West Bank for decades but Israel simply does not recognize their right to be there. They are extremely limited in their daily movements and live in fear of being detained and ‘deported’, just as Berlanty was. Consequently they have very limited opportunities for employment, business and studies. This policy not only breaches Israel’s obligations under international accords to treat the West Bank and the Gaza Strip as a “single territorial entity” but it also chokes any prospect of healthy development in Palestinian society.

It is no use pretending that things will change until other countries give Israel a dose of their own medicine. How does the Berlanty case and the thousands like it sit with the great and the good who piously reject the idea of an academic boycott against Israel?

All political parties fight against such a for muddle-headed reasons. The recent Channel 4 Dispatches programme uncovered the influence of the Israel lobby and its money on the Conservative Party. Another particularly obnoxious group that’s hopelessly out of touch with reality is the Liberal Democrat Friends of Israel. At their party’s conference they tabled a motion squashing an academic boycott, saying that “Israeli universities are centres of free debate and discussion and that the universities contain Jews, Muslims, Christians, Israelis and Palestinians. Furthermore a boycott does nothing to resolve a negotiated solution to the Israel/Palestine conflict and is indeed counter-productive as it discourages dialogue.” This motion against the boycott was passed with an overwhelming majority.

The aim of the Liberal Democrats Friends of Israel is to “maximise support for the State of Israel within the party and Parliament” and “encourage a broad understanding of Israel’s unique political position as the only democracy in the Middle East”.

Their stated purpose is.…

  • To influence the Party’s Middle East policy so it places a high priority on Israel’s right to peace and security.
  • To provide parliamentarians with briefing material for parliamentary debates, questions to Ministers and public appearances.
  • To rebut attacks on Israel in the media, Parliament and the Party.
  • To liaise with Israeli politicians and Government.
  • To arrange and accompany LDFI delegations to Israel.
  • To keep in regular contact with the Embassy of Israel.

In other words they act as a prop within the British parliament for this racist military regime.

Such blind allegiance and bizarre conduct contribute to the tragedy of Berlanty and countless other Palestinian youngsters. Without these beacons of misplaced support across the Western world lawless Israel would be sunk.

Stuart Littlewood’s book Radio Free Palestine, with Foreword by Jeff Halper, can now be read on the internet by visiting radiofreepalestine.org.uk. Read other articles by Stuart.

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  1. Ismail Zayid said on December 12th, 2009 at 11:04am #

    Rules of Human Decency surely should apply to Israel, like all other countries. But, unfortunately, the Israeli government does not apply these rules to Palestinians.

    The story of Berlanty Azzam is only a single example out of thousands of Palestinians, under Israeli illegal occupation, who are denied all elements of human consideration and decency.

    It is the duty of the international community to use its influence to compel Israel to comply with international law and all Rules of Human Decency.

  2. Mary said on December 12th, 2009 at 1:16pm #

    I have wept real tears of rage and tears of sorrow for Berlanty. How cruel these occupiers are. The meaning of ‘human decency’ is not known to the Zionist.

    I have just been reading Angie Tibbs’ 2006 interview on Uruknet with Dr Zayid (whose post is before mine) and learning of the ethnic cleansing of his village, later transformed using Canadian donations into Canada Park.

    ‘In June 1967, Yitzhak Rabin ordered the ethnic cleansing of three Palestinian villages, Beit Nuba, Imwas (Emmaus), and Yalu. The residents were ordered to leave; some were murdered.’

    http://www.uruknet.de/?l=i&p=m25740&hd=0&size=1

    Tomorrow Tzipi Livni is in London for a JNF meeting. She has no shame and shows no contrition. The ethic cleansing continues 42 years after Dr Zayid’s were dispersed.

    Tzipi Livni, current leader of Israel’s Kadima party will be a star
    of the JNF 13 December conference, /Creating A New Future For Israel
    in the Negev/. Livni was constantly on our screens during last year’s bombing of Gaza, a chief apologist of the slaughter. Shamelessly, she had said: “There is no humanitarian crisis in Gaza.” The JNF conference is part and parcel of the ethnic cleansing process of the Negev Bedouin people. Discriminatory laws and practices have forced tens of thousands of Bedouin to live under constant threat of seeing their homes demolished and their communities torn apart. Hundreds of Bedouin and Israeli Jews have protested the state’s refusal to recognise Bedouin villages, depriving them of water, and the JNF’s theft of their land. The JNF calls itself “Israel’s leading humanitarian and environmental Charity”. Prime Minister Gordon Brown and leader of the opposition, David Cameron, both sponsor the JNF. It is not coincidental that they refuse to condemn either JNF’s role in ethnic cleansing or Israeli war crimes in Gaza and in general.

  3. kalidas said on December 12th, 2009 at 1:56pm #

    Yeah, that’s the problem. The Zionists.
    Same as it ever was.
    “Hundreds of Jews protested.”
    Tel Aviv… hundreds
    New York… hundreds.
    My town… three
    Your town… two dozen

    Why not six million Jews protested?

    Meanwhile, and every other while, the uhhh, uhhh, uhhh, Zionists, yeah that’s it, the Zionists just keep on keeping on.

  4. DavidG. said on December 12th, 2009 at 10:13pm #

    In terms of brutality and cruelty, I wonder which nation is top dog: Israel or America?

    Given the population of Israel, I guess it must win. One thing is certain however: neither nation has any shame or any conscience.

  5. jon s said on December 13th, 2009 at 12:05am #

    With all sympathy to Berlanty Azzam, let’s not forget the abducted soldier Gilad Shalit, whose plight is much worse.
    I’m sure Israel would be willing to solve the problem of the students, in exchange for his release

  6. Noisy Tappet said on December 13th, 2009 at 3:38am #

    It is disgraceful to try to draw equivalence between an innocent female student peacefully going about her studies and a trained killer deployed with lethal weaponry in an illegal occupation force. Nor can you mention Gilad Shalit without also asking about the 11,000 Palestinian prisoners rotting in Israeli jails, many without charges or trial and including a large number of women and children. Grow up, jon s.

  7. jon s said on December 13th, 2009 at 4:47am #

    There really is no equivalence : Gilad Shalit’s predicament is much worse.
    “A trained killer” – I’m not acquainted with Cpl. Shalit personally, but from what we know about the guy -I doubt that he would hurt a fly. He’s a simple soldier, serving his country, and was abducted from inside Israel, not in occupied territory. Moreover, his treatment as a prisoner has been inhuman and cruel.
    Jews all over the world are celebrating Hanukkah this week. Here’s hoping that Gilad Shalit will be released in time to light the last candle at home with his family!

  8. Noisy Tappet said on December 13th, 2009 at 5:41am #

    Trained killers are exactly what soldiers are, and the IDF is very good at killing as statistics prove. Shalit (now a sergeant I believe, so amassing a nice lot of back-pay) was CAPTURED as a PoW. Most of the 11,000 Palestinian prisoners were ABDUCTED or KIDNAPPED from inside Palestinian territory. We don’t know how Shalit has been treated – well I hope, which is more than can be said for the tortured Palestinian prisoners according to several independent reports. What about THEIR family celebrations?

  9. jon s said on December 13th, 2009 at 7:34am #

    Fine, what do you say,then, that we appeal to the Hamas terrorists and ask them to accord to Shalit the same conditions that Palestinians prisoners are held under by Israel? Agree?
    (And your sarcastic remark about his backpay is exceedingly disgusting.)

  10. Noisy Tappet said on December 13th, 2009 at 7:44am #

    Shalit might not appreciate it, but he’s your hero not mine. Go ahead and see what the Hamas resistance say. But be careful. Haniyeh and most of his colleagues have seen the inside of Israel prisons and know the treatment only too well.

    By the way, what’s disgusting is the idea that the freedom of this Israeli soldier is more precious than the freedom of any one of the 11,000 Palestinian prisoners.

  11. Danny Ray said on December 13th, 2009 at 7:54am #

    Shalit was CAPTURED as a POW .( inside Israel) Most of the 11,000 Palestinian prisoners were ABDUCTED or KIDNAPPED from inside Palestinian territory.

    OK whats the difference. your telling me that the pal. are at war but the israeli are not?

    And the remark about backpay was over the top.

  12. Noisy Tappet said on December 13th, 2009 at 8:09am #

    Daily bombardments and raids, sometimes with tank like Shalit’s, sometimes with jets and drones, not allowing humanitarian aid in, not allowing foreign ministers or EU officials in, threatening another ‘shoah’ as if the one a year ago wasn’t vile enough, abducting students, kidnapping and imprisoning civilians, shooting up fishermen in their own waters, stealing more land, evicting more citizens, demolishing more homes…. yes, I’d say Israel was at war, wouldn’t you? Just like it has been for decades.

  13. Danny Ray said on December 13th, 2009 at 8:46am #

    No, you are telling me that Shalit is a lawful POW but in the same post you are saying that the Israeli’s are not capturing pows but are abducting poor pituful pals.

  14. kalidas said on December 13th, 2009 at 9:26am #

    Here’s a picture of the poor suffering Gilad in captivity.
    Oh, the agony of not having a pencil to do the crossword puzzle.

    http://www.ynetnews.com/PicServer2/02022009/2201654/AFP_A.jpg

  15. kalidas said on December 13th, 2009 at 9:32am #

    I’ll bet Gilad comes home with all his organs and such intact, back pay and all.
    Not to mention the under the table $ for keeping his mouth shut about his completely decent treatment.

  16. Mary said on December 13th, 2009 at 11:18am #

    As Noisy Tappet was saying…

    ‘A leader of the nonviolent protests in the West Bank lately arrested by Israel, Abdallah Abu Rahmah is obviously a political prisoner. So is Mohammad Othman, a human-rights activist seized after a trip to Europe. So are many others of the 10,000 Palestinian prisoners in Israeli jails. Yet The New York Times does a whole article on one Israeli prisoner of the Palestinians, soldier Gilad Shalit, that dismisses the Palestinian prisoners as “terrorists” and “murderers”; and The New Yorker publishes a long piece on Gaza that shifts the reader’s attention from human-rights atrocities to that one Israeli prisoner again– Gilad Shalit.’

    /……

    How newspapers censor the Palestinian side of the story

    http://mondoweiss.net/2009/12/the-relentless-pressure-on-journalists-to-submerge-the-palestinian-story.html

  17. DavidG. said on December 13th, 2009 at 2:01pm #

    Shalit is a trained killer.

    Israel trains all its young people, male and female, to be trained killers.
    They, in the main, accept this training without complaint.

    In fact, from footage I’ve seen of Israeli war crimes, they obviously enjoy killling especially when they have a massive advantage via their American supplied army, air force and navy.

    Given that 1,400 Gazans were killed in the recent conflict (and only 9 Israelis) why the Gazans haven’t executed Shalit is beyond my comprehension.

  18. sybil e bondi said on December 13th, 2009 at 3:30pm #

    david g-
    -i often ask myself why the israelis don’t execute the convicted terrorists they hold
    can you think of a reason?

  19. sybil e bondi said on December 13th, 2009 at 3:46pm #

    mary,
    are you crying tears of rage over this

    Students trapped at Teheran University

    Dec. 13, 2009
    Associated Press
    Police surrounded the campus of Teheran University on Sunday, trapping hundreds of students protesting what they said were fabricated government images of the burning of a photo of the Islamic Republic’s revered founder.

    State television has repeatedly shown images, ostensibly taken during student-led protests on December 7, of unidentified hands burning and tearing up pictures of Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini. It was a grave and illegal insult against the former leader still widely respected in the country and the elite Revolutionary Guard, the country’s most powerful military force, called for the trial and punishment of those responsible.

    Video circulated widely on the Internet on the day of last week’s protests also showed photos of Iran’s Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei and President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad being burned as well as one photo of Khamenei and Khomeini side by side going up in flames. The faces of those burning the pictures could not be seen and loud chants against the government were heard in the background.

    Khamenei, who has the final say on all state matters, appealed for calm but suggested the opposition was creating a hostile environment…

  20. DavidG. said on December 13th, 2009 at 4:28pm #

    Sybil, they hold POWs as bargaining tools because they have little else to bargain with.

    Given that the IDF snipers target Palestinian children, it must require a lot of willpower for Palestinians to hold Jewish soldiers rather than kill them.

    Then perhaps Palestinians are more compassionate than their occupiers!

  21. DavidG. said on December 13th, 2009 at 5:11pm #

    Given that the Palestinians are under brutal occupation, mebosa, and that they have no army, navy or air force, and given that their land is being stolen from them on a daily basis and their houses are being demolished and in Jerusalem they are being evicted from their houses so Jews can move in, and given that they suffering from Israeli genocide, Israeli siege and Israeli brutality, and given that because of the Israelis, they have no state, no rights, no future, etc, that they resorted to suicide bombing is understandable.

    Of course, people under occupation have the right to fight against their occupiers using whatever means they have.

    Such noble people are called Resistance Fighters! They were very active in Europe following the Nazi occupation, mebosa, a brutal occupation very similar to that of the Israelis.

  22. Danny Ray said on December 13th, 2009 at 5:22pm #

    Giora Balash, 60, from São Paulo, Brazil
    Zvika Golombek, 26, from Karmiel, Israel
    Shoshana Yehudit (Judy) Greenbaum, 31, from Passaic, New Jersey, USA
    Tehila Maoz, 18, from Jerusalem, Israel
    Frieda Mendelsohn, 62, from Jerusalem
    Michal Raziel, 16, from Ramot, Jerusalem
    Malka Chana (Malki) Roth, 15, from Ramot, Jerusalem (memorial) (originally from Melbourne, Australia)
    Mordechai Schijveschuurder, 43, from Neria, Matte Binyamin
    Tzira Schijveschuurder, 41, from Neria
    Ra’aya Schijveschuurder, 14, from Neria
    Avraham Yitzhak Schijveschuurder, 4, from Neria
    Hemda Schijveschuurder, 2, from Neria
    Lily Shimashvili, 33, from Jerusalem
    Tamara Shimashvili, 8, from Jerusalem
    Yocheved Shoshan, 10, from Jerusalem

    August 9 2001 Sbarro pizza,
    this is a list of the horrible Jews your heros butchered, not to mention the 130 wonded many of them children.

  23. Danny Ray said on December 13th, 2009 at 5:26pm #

    I was a block away I held Izzy Shimashvili while they put his wife and child in body bags.

  24. bozh said on December 13th, 2009 at 5:36pm #

    danny,
    That was just for starters. Wait a few decades or centuries. Of course, ‘jews’ only love their own weapons and manner-quantity of killing/maiming/destroying.
    tnx

  25. DavidG. said on December 13th, 2009 at 6:09pm #

    It never ceases to amaze me how pro-Jews love to try to argue equivalence.

    I suppose the 1,400 Gazans slaughtered in the latest IDF killing spree (which included 400 plus Palestinian children) were equal to the nine Israelis killed. Of course the IDF killed another four of their own soldiers to make a total of thirteen.

    Anyone who tries to push the equivalence line is deranged!

  26. Michael Kalmanovitz said on December 13th, 2009 at 6:51pm #

    Livni, the Jewish National Fund & Israeli war crimes

    Tzipi Livni, current leader of Israel’s Kadima party, will be a star of the JNF 13 December conference, Creating a New Future for Israel in the Negev. Livni was constantly on our screens during last year’s bombing of Gaza, a chief apologist of the slaughter. Shamelessly, she had said: “There is no humanitarian crisis in Gaza.”[1]

    Livni’s brutality has a tradition. Her parents were prominent members of the terrorist organisation Irgun – responsible for the 1946 bombing of the King David Hotel in Jerusalem. Ninety-one people were killed: including 41 Arabs, 28 British, and 17 Jews. The Irgun announced that it would mourn Jewish victims, not British ones [2]; there was not even mention of the Arab dead.

    In this one action the Zionists had killed more Jewish people than all the rockets ever fired from Gaza to Sderot. But during last year’s onslaught Livni’s concern was for Sderot: “It is unbearable. Children cannot go to school, and the residents cannot live their lives” [3]

    The JNF conference that Livni will grace is part and parcel of the ethnic cleansing of the Negev Bedouin people. Discriminatory laws and practices have forced tens of thousands to live under constant threat of seeing their homes demolished and their communities torn apart.[4] Hundreds of Bedouin and Israeli Jews have protested the state’s refusal to recognise Bedouin villages, depriving them of water, and the JNF’s theft of Bedouin land. [5]

    The JNF calls itself “Israel’s leading humanitarian and environmental Charity”. Prime Minister Gordon Brown and leader of the opposition, David Cameron both sponsor the JNF. Both refuse to condemn either JNF’s role in ethnic cleansing [6] or Israeli war crimes in Gaza and in general.

    The JNF has charitable status in over 50 countries, including in Britain. But it is a para-statal organisation whose aims are far from charitable. With the Israeli government’s Lands Administration, JNF controls 93% of the land in Israel, for Jewish people only, till the end of time.

    The JNF plays a central role in the ongoing colonization of Palestine, Israeli apartheid and violent occupation – crimes against humanity. The immediate aim of the International Jewish Anti-Zionist Network (IJAN), working with the Palestinian BDS Committee and others, is to expose the JNF, and end its charitable status. [7]

    Jewish and other organisations will protest Livni and the conference, and call for the principle of universal jurisdiction to apply, and that for her role in the onslaught on Lebanon in 2006 as well as Gaza in 2008/9, she is indicted for war crimes and crimes against humanity.
    ……………………………………

    1. Ha’aretz, 5 January 2009, http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1052302.html

    2. http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/126929

    3. http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3403164,00.html

    4. http://www.hrw.org/en/node/62284/section/2

    5. http://zope.gush-shalom.org/home/en/channels/press_releases/1254607624

    6. For background, Tony Greenstein, Comment is Free, Guardian, 25 March 2008, http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2008/mar/25/israelsroyalwelcome

    7. See the Call for an International Campaign against the JNF, http://www.ijsn.net/390/

  27. Angie Tibbs said on December 13th, 2009 at 9:21pm #

    I am sure Hamas would release this ONE prisoner, a soldier, let’s not forget, the moment the terrorist state of Israel releases the over 10,000 Palestinian prisoners, including elected government officials, women, and children.

    Who the hell do you think you are, jon s,. prattling about an IDF.terrorist as if he were any more important than one, even one, Palestinian prisoner? Your arrogance is breathtaking — poor us, our precious soldier, Gilad Shalit, is being held captive. Waaaah!.

    Well, cry us a river, why don’t you?

  28. Mary said on December 14th, 2009 at 1:00am #

    sybil from bondi beach

    No. If they are being held (and the veracity of any report from Iran is always in question as that country is your intended next theatre of war) they are Iranians involved in a civil protest.

    They are not prisoners of a cruel occupier and they are not being bombed from drones and F16s, nor having shells bursting overhead, raining white phosphorus down on them which burns flesh through to the bone.

    eg
    http://www.hrw.org/en/features/israelgaza-photographs-white-phosphorus-use

  29. Noisy Tappet said on December 14th, 2009 at 1:22am #

    “Well, cry us a river, why don’t you?”
    Yeah, and try not to pollute it, jon s.

  30. Noisy Tappet said on December 14th, 2009 at 2:55am #

    I mean DON’T include all jews in the same cesspit as Israeli thugs

  31. Noisy Tappet said on December 14th, 2009 at 4:53am #

    Funny how we only hear about SELF-HATING Jews, never self-hating Muslims or self-hating Christians. Hate is big medicine in the tribe. Hate, cruelty, greed and disrespect, and an insufferable superiority complex, are the pillars on which Israel is built.

  32. jon s said on December 14th, 2009 at 5:23am #

    Noisy, Angie, The point is that Gilad Shalit has not been accorded his legal rights as a POW – no Red Cross visits and inspections, no letters and packages from his family. There is a vast diferrence between a soldier honorably serving his country and convicted terrorists, some of them responsible for blood- thirsty crimes against innocent civilians. (Allow me to guess: you never served in your country’s armed forces…) Don’t get me wrong: I’m in favor of a prisoner exchange to attain Shalit’s release, but it’s not an easy decision from the Israeli side.
    DavidG, Of course people living under a brutal occupation have the right to resist – but not “by any means”. Throughout history people who believed that “the ends justify the means” ended up perpetrating horrible atrocities. Intentionally targetting innocent civilians, including children, as the suicide/homicide bombers did ,should be condemned, not condoned.

  33. Noisy Tappet said on December 14th, 2009 at 6:24am #

    There are an awful lot of “self-hating” Jews, Sybil, and they are increasing all the time. It’s a despicable term coined by the ignorant and flung at those Jews who rightly condemn the thugs and criminals who run the racist state of Israel and disgrace Jews all over the world.

    Jon s says: “Allow me to guess: you never served in your country’s armed forces…” Why make so many wrong assumptions?

  34. jon s said on December 14th, 2009 at 7:21am #

    Noisy, my guess was based on your attitude towards GiladShalit. I assumed that a person who had served would display a certain degree of enpathy towards a POW. If Iwas wrong – I’m sorry.

  35. Noisy Tappet said on December 14th, 2009 at 7:28am #

    Jon s, I have seen the IDF and been appalled by their conduct. A bunch of teenage gunslingers out of control, mostly There are exceptions of course. No empathy whatever with Shalit, or any of the others, until they learn and show some respect.

  36. Tony C. said on December 14th, 2009 at 8:14am #

    ” The point is that Gilad Shalit has not been accorded his legal rights as a POW – no Red Cross visits and inspections, no letters and packages from his family. ”

    Well, that really sums up the absurd hypocrisy of Jon S., given that there isn’t a “Democratic” nation on earth that ignores and breaks more well-established international laws than Israel.

  37. Mary said on December 14th, 2009 at 11:08am #

    Zippee-dee-doo-dah!

    Tzipi cancelled her visit to the UK to speak to the JNF.

    Hi All,

    Tzipi Livni cancels JNF visit to UK – see below news item.

    Many thanks to everyone for exposing the JNF and its keynote speaker Tzipi Livni.

    The JNF and Tzipi Livni were hoping to keep their conference in secrecy but we collectively exposed them and their crimes. While they organised their conference in hiding, our protest was public. In spite of all difficulties you publicised their plans, our protest and many of you came in spite of the very short notice. In spite of their extreme actions to prevent us from attending their conference, a few of us did … get in! They even managed to disrupt the conference when Israeli Ambassador Prosor was giving his support to Israeli crimes against Palestinians.

    You helped by exposing the JNF practices and plans of ethnic cleansing of Palestinians, as well as Tzipi Livni’s responsibility for planning and implementation of the Israeli onslaught on Gaza [when she was the Israeli Foreign Minister] and attempt to disguise the humanitarian catastrophe in Gaza caused by the Israeli slaughter and siege.

    Tzipi Livni was too scared of being questioned by UK police, though there was no risk it would have subjected her to the routine Israeli practice of torture and abuse of Palestinian prisoners [while she was in the Israeli government thousands of Palestinian were tortured including children]. She was in the government responsible for the detention without charge [so called ‘Administrative Detention’] of Palestinians, including children, but she was too scared to come to the UK for fear of facing charges of war crimes!

    Thanks to everyone and keep up the good work.

    Regards,
    ********
    http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3819768,00.html

    ………………………………………………………………………………..

  38. sid wright said on December 14th, 2009 at 2:37pm #

    Livni, Of All People!
    Livni, the lady who rushed to America and Europe to get bogus assurances that the West will fight Israel’s battles for her in Gaza receives an arrest warrant! It’s a great example of how little value the world places on appeasement.

  39. sybil e bondi said on December 14th, 2009 at 2:43pm #

    for you mary
    you can’t trust the zionist web site ynet

    Kadima and opposition leader Tzipi Livni declined a request to lecture in Britain due to her inability to obtain a meeting with British Prime Minister Gordon Brown and not due to fears of getting arrested, sources close to Livni said Monday night.

    Livni was invited a month ago to address the Jewish National Fund UK’s annual conference in London, but two weeks ago, she turned down the invitation because Brown would be abroad at the time. Instead, she addressed the conference by video.

  40. sybil e bondi said on December 14th, 2009 at 2:48pm #

    the self hating jew was a term actually coined by a non jewish psychologist to describe the behaviour of one who doesn’t fit within a group so he/she tries to denigrate the group by allying themselves with the group’s opponents in an attempt to be loved by somebody as opposed to nobody

  41. Noisy Tappet said on December 14th, 2009 at 3:40pm #

    Not at all. Self-hating Jews don’t fit in because they rightly criticise the group for its immoral behaviour and the group can’t take criticism. The idea that they ally themselves to the group’s opponents is pure invention, just like the idea that non-Jews who criticise Israel are automatically Jew-haters. Speaking for myself, I find thugs and bullies despicable irrespective of whether they are Jews.

  42. sid wright said on December 14th, 2009 at 4:05pm #

    i wait,i suspect,in vain for you,noisy ,to codemn the despicable thugs of hamas who have killed more palestinians in gaza than israel has, and who use their children as human shields to hide behind

    Speaking for myself, I find thugs and bullies despicable irrespective of whether they are Jews.
    In a long, defiant speech on Monday afternoon, Hamas Prime Minister Ismail Haniyeh said that gaining control of the Gaza Strip was “just a step toward liberating all of Palestine.”

    “This movement liberated the Gaza Strip from Fatah with the help of the militant factions,” said Haniyeh, referring to terrorist groups operating under the umbrella of Palestinian resistance.

    “Brothers and sisters, we will not be satisfied with Gaza,” he declared. “Hamas looks toward the whole of Palestine.”

    Tens of thousands of Hamas supporters thronged downtown Gaza City Monday to mark the 22nd anniversary of the group’s founding. Gaza was decked out in Islamic green, with Hamas flags fluttering from rooftops, lampposts and cars. Some parents dressed small children in combat fatigues and green Hamas headbands.

    The crowd packed an outdoor square where a huge banner draped over the wall of a building showed a picture of Jerusalem’s main Islamic shrine and photos of senior Hamas figures.

    Leaders made impassioned speeches, bands played and scout troops marched in processions.

    “Gaza is free. Gaza is steadfast, our children will be our martyrs” shouted an all-male singing troupe, whose members wore military camouflage. Haniyeh exuberantly waved Palestinian and Hamas flags to the crowd as he took the stage.

    The group called on the Palestinians to expect “surprises” during the rally, sparking speculation that its leaders may exploit the event to announce a prisoner exchange agreement with Israel.

    Hamas’ radio and TV stations exhorted Gazans to attend the mass rally after Muslim midday prayers.Armed militia were seen forcing people to attend the rally

  43. deceschi said on December 14th, 2009 at 4:10pm #

    By now it seems so that Britain is already controlled by influential Arab groups in London backed by Saudi oil money. So while enjoying “free duty” travelling around the world those groups can harass every opponent of their criminal policies that support, among others, also the fanatical Palestinian Islamists. Not a place to be proud of, not a place where to stay, not a place where to go.

  44. Noisy Tappet said on December 14th, 2009 at 4:51pm #

    “…hamas who have killed more palestinians in gaza than israel has”.

    Go on, Sid, tell us. How many Palestinians have Hamas killed in Gaza… and quote your source please. Then tell us how many Palestinians the Israelis have killed in Gaza.

  45. Mary said on December 15th, 2009 at 1:12am #

    No Desceschi Israeli war criminals like Livni and Almog are not welcome in GB. We have enough war criminals of our own in the shape of Blair and Brown thank you.

    British court issued Gaza arrest warrant for former Israeli minister Tzipi Livni
    (www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/dec/14/tzipi-livni-israel-gaza-arrest)

    The FCO (Milipede) is said to be angry about the success of the action against Livni’s visit. Milipede has just appointed a pal to be the UK Ambassador to Israel so all’s well in the GB/Israel alliance.

    http://www.redress.cc/stooges/gatzmon20091213

    Oh and your friends here will probably rise to the bait and describe the author as one of the ‘self hating Jews’.

  46. Noisy Tappet said on December 15th, 2009 at 1:39am #

    At least Livni would have been arrested in a civilised manner and not eliminated Israeli-style by an armed drone taking dozens of innocent civilians with her. Livni’s office is reported as saying she’s proud of what she did in Gaza. What a sorry pig the woman is – like the rest of the gruesome crew in Tel Aviv.

  47. jon s said on December 15th, 2009 at 3:27am #

    Noisy, Quite simply the Hamas bear the main responsibility for the casualties of “Cast Lead”, on both sides.

  48. jon s said on December 15th, 2009 at 3:31am #

    As for the farce of the arrest warrant for Livni, all it proves is that idiots can be found everywhere, including in the British legal system.

  49. sid wright said on December 15th, 2009 at 4:16am #

    Go on, Sid, tell us. How many Palestinians have Hamas killed in Gaza… and quote your source please. Then tell us how many Palestinians the Israelis have killed in Gaza.
    answer for nosy
    hamas have killed at least 2,600 fatah and their families–source
    maan news agency
    israel have killed 1400 pallys in gaza–source you and every other jew haters’ post on dv

  50. Noisy Tappet said on December 15th, 2009 at 7:16am #

    Sorry Sid, your figures aren’t verifiable without a link. They’re obvious wrong anyway and you’re obviously confused and you obviously need help in this department.

    What period are you talking about? The 1400 Palestinians murdered in Gaza was for 3 weeks in 2008/9. Are the fictitious 2600 Fateh for the same 3 weeks?

    Let’s try a reliable (Israeli) source – B’Tselem. From year 2000 up to just before the Israeli blitzkrieg Cast Lead a year ago, Israelis killed 4,791 Palestinians in their homeland. To this add your 1,400 and more. In that same period Palestinians killed 593 of their own – mostly Fateh quislings, I guess, or others in Israel’s/America’s pay.

    You must be more careful Sidney, you’ll start believing your own propaganda lies at this rate.

  51. Mary said on December 15th, 2009 at 7:50am #

    Sid Wrong . You have absolutely no idea what I do with my spare time after I spend a few minutes here so do not make assumptions.

    This is yet another war criminal who decided not to grace us with his presence.
    http://www.uruknet.info/?p=m61077

    Israeli minister Moshe Ya’alon turned down UK visit over arrest fears

    Vice-prime minister pulled out of fundraising event after being warned he could be held on suspicion of war crimes

  52. sid wright said on December 15th, 2009 at 8:21am #

    noisy,i find it funny that your sources are true and mine are lies
    i happen to think your sources inc btselem are propaganda lies
    i also find that you are prepared to believe the liars i e jewish btselem
    and you don’t believe the good guys–the palestinians maan news agency

    and by the way mary,you are a sad person obsessed with hating jews.
    how’s your sad brother doing–going on a boat trip soon ? or are you both too scared?

  53. Noisy Tappet said on December 15th, 2009 at 10:29am #

    Ah, so B’Tselem, the widely regarded Israeli human rights organisation, is just another bunch of self-hating Jews in your eyes. Funny how they keep popping up all over the place – these SHJs – to spoil your evil fun. You certainly are the expert on sad persons obsessed with self-hating Jews, Sidney. See B’Tselem’s website and look under Statistics.

    Now, why don’t you be a good little Sidney and instead of just mentioning Maan News Agency actually give me chapter and verse to that we can look at your figures and where they come from TOGETHER?
    There’s a clever boy…..

  54. Mary said on December 15th, 2009 at 10:35am #

    Nothing planned unless we hear of another shoah being enacted by your lot upon Gaza. The Viva Palestina convoy is getting near by the way. It has reached Turkey.

    http://readingpsc.org.uk/convoy/