Comments on: Bended Knees: Zionist Power in American Politics

By: Don Hawkins

Don Hawkins — Sat, 02 Jan 2010 16:47:25 +0000

http://www.greenprophet.com/2009/12/03/14076/update-on-israeli-drought-tax/

Read this and control well not human’s anymore. This is the end of the beginning and so far what are we human’s doing wait don’t tell me going shopping. Will this lack of rain get better in say 10 years in the region where three religions meet.

By: jon s

jon s — Sat, 02 Jan 2010 16:17:38 +0000

The myth of “Jewish control” -of the economy, the media, politics – was one of the most popular Anti-Semitic propaganda items. It’s a myth which should have been laid to rest after the Holocaust, when it was revealed, tragically, just how weak and helpless the Jews actually were. They could be starved and herded into ghettos, and shot and gassed – and it turned out that in the real world – not the Anti-Semitic hallucination-world, they were quite powerless.
Of course Jews today are, thank goodness, not powerless. But neither are they omnipotent, as can be seen by the beating that Israel has been taking in much of the world’s media.

By: jon s

jon s — Sat, 26 Dec 2009 07:24:05 +0000

Calm,
Have you actually read the organ-harvesting story , to which you provided a link? It says quite clearly that at the time the Pathology Institute harvested organs without consent from the families -from dead Palestinians , but also from dead Israeli soldiers and civilians. That’s a far cry from the accusations as if Israel was killing Palestinians so their organs could be taken.

By: jon s

jon s — Fri, 25 Dec 2009 09:12:08 +0000

For a definitive study of the infamous “Protocols” see:
Norman Cohn: Warrant for Genocide , The Myth of the Jewish World Conspiracy and the Protocols of the Elders of Zion. (London, 1967)

By: Mulga Mumblebrain

Mulga Mumblebrain — Wed, 23 Dec 2009 16:31:59 +0000

Michael cannot surely be so obtuse. Zionism refers to a political and colonial enterprise launched by Jews in the 19th century to establish a Jewish Reich in land in the Near East (of yet unestablished extent, but, according to the likes of Herzl, ‘from the Nile to the Euphrates, at least). This lebensraum was to be secured by ejecting the ‘two-legged animals’ who dwelt there, the Palestinians, a particularly ripe irony because they are, as Ben-Gurion acknowledged, the descendants of the Jews who remained in Palestine from Roman times. The European colonists, in contrast, mostly have no roots whatsoever in the Holy Land, being descended from various peoples, such as the Khazars, who converted to Judaism over the centuries.
If Michael is trying to equate opposition to Zionism, as a virulent racist and fascist movement, with the Protocols, this is a new low in imbecilic Zionist smearing. In any case, who said that the ‘Protocols’ are faked? Oh, I remember, it’s the same lying Zionist swho have spread untruths about everything else. I have no idea if the ‘Protocols’ are really faked, having never read them nor seen a copy. But several possibilities come readily to mind. First they are genuine, because Judaic efforts to control societies, particularly in the West, are unprecedented in their range and success. Second they are fakes concocted by anti-Semites, based on outright lies. Third they are fakes concocted by those fearful, or resentful, of Judaic influence and their drive to dominate their host societies. Or fourth, my favourite, that they are fakes, but are Judaic fakes, fakes concocted to obscure and discredit a reality, the reality of Judaic impulse to control and dominance, which we see in operation throughout the West, in politics, finance and the media.

By: Jimbo

Jimbo — Wed, 23 Dec 2009 07:15:41 +0000

Whadda buncha shit.

By: Luis Magno

Luis Magno — Wed, 23 Dec 2009 05:35:02 +0000

We need a unified European American movement capable of taking control of the White House and the Congress and that rejects revanchist mixed-race White nostrums.

By: Deadbeat

Deadbeat — Wed, 23 Dec 2009 04:43:09 +0000

Shabnam,

Thanks for posting that list. One name I noticed was Todd Gitlin, Columbia University. Gitlan was very intrumental in the distruption of the Green Party and blocking Nader’s attempt to run as a Green by causing slowdowns and delays that would thwart his 50-state campaign. It was one of the reason why Nader decided to run his campaign as an Independent rather than on the Green Party ticket.

It is very draconian to get on the ballot in all 50 states in the U.S. and one need to get started very early in the process. The intended plan in 2004 was to stop Nader at every turn. Preventing Nader from getting on the ballot on all 50 states was part of that plan which Gitlin played a major role. Zinn role that year was to arkwardly rationalize the “Anybody But Bush” scheme. Medea Benjamin role was to garner support for the gadfly David Cobb who run resulted in the loss of ballot access for the Green Party.

By: Michael

Michael — Wed, 23 Dec 2009 02:06:16 +0000

The fact that this article includes people called “zionists” confirms that articles like this are false. The protocols of Zion were confirmed by multiple governments to be a fake document ages ago, and the conspiracy of Jews controlling the world is a total fallacy. The Russian Secret Police even admitted to creating such a document to cause hatred towards Jews in Russia. You simply cannot back any of the words written in this article because if you actually researched into the Protocols of Zion, the so called “meeting notes” contain the exact same words from a French play. The person who wrote this fake document was a Frenchmen who was anti-semetic and worked for the Russian Secret Police for a short time. During this time period he made a fake document called the Protocols of Zion which depicted the meeting notes of a secret meeting of Jews discussing the eventual take-over of the Gentiles. This article shortly was linked with Bolshivism and Communism, hence the Marxist section of the article above. The protocols of Zion were on a required reading list for children in school during the Nazi regime. This article is anti-semetic and hateful. Jews have been persecuted for centuries, and they do not deserve, especially after the Holocaust, to be persecuted for something that never actually happened. Again, the Protocols of Zion are a complete FALLACY. This article is completely anti-semetic, and be forewarned that people who write these articles do not know what they are talking about.

By: Shabnam

Shabnam — Tue, 22 Dec 2009 14:40:27 +0000

Who supports the ‘color revolution’ in Iran where was assisted by transfer of information on how to bring about a ‘regime change’ in Iran by holding conferences in Dubai, Germany, India and elsewhere to train and ‘empower’ the dissidents against Iranian government by Gene Sharp and Peter Ackerman, US government agents?
Akbar Ganji, Jurgen Habermas, Noam Chomsky, Taylor, Nussbaum, Nadine Gordimer (who went to Israel to celebrate an apartheid state despite many who asked her not to go), Howard Zinn, Ahmad Rashid, agent of the West, Rabbi Michael Lerner, Ann Elizabeth Mayer, Daniel Brumberg and ……

http://fa-ir.facebook.com/note.php?note_id=229723575513

By: Shabnam

Shabnam — Tue, 22 Dec 2009 03:54:20 +0000

[The continued “failure of the nerve” or “intellectual treason”75 of the American left academics and their “Marxist” journals to even discuss the role of the ZPC in making war policy has not stopped a breakthrough of Zionist critics, even in some mass media outlets.]
Some of the pro Zionists who are active among ‘the left’ have been exposed by various writers. We need more courageous people who analyze the action of these enablers and reject their contribution to Zionism/imperialism forces. On e of these writers is Michael Barker who has written many articles to expose elite ‘democracy’ manipulation. He has written about Gene Sharp and the Albert Einstein Institution, an organization that over the years has received strong support from the elite democracy-manipulating community (including not least the National Endowment for Democracy). He criticizes closet Zionists who support Gene Sharp and his organization against those who have tried to expose it. He writes:

At the end of last year in my Swans article “Noam Chomsky And The Power Of Letters” I criticized progressive intellectuals for deflecting attention from the anti-democratic function that liberal philanthropists fulfill in the service of imperialism. I concluded by noting that if “we are serious about collectively working to building workable alternatives to capitalism then we must learn to subject our most influential theorists to ruthless criticism.”
It is not controversial to assert that ruling elites have a long history of manipulating social movements, a phenomenon that progressive historian Howard Zinn has amply illustrated in his vitally important work (see “Howard Zinn And The Co-option Of Social Change”). So it is unfortunate that radical intellectuals like Zinn and Noam Chomsky fail to extend similar analyses to studying the manipulation of contemporary movements for progressive social change. This shortcoming helps explain why they, along with many other activists, signed a controversial petition at the end of 2008 “in defense of Dr. Gene Sharp and the Albert Einstein Institution” — an organization that over the years has received strong support from the elite democracy-manipulating community (including not least the National Endowment for Democracy).
Noam Chomsky supports the ‘color revolution’ in Iran. The hand of Peter Ackerman through his agents such as, Ramin Ahmadi, Roya Hakakian, and other Iranians has been reported a few years ago by Azimi in the New York Times. Gene Sharp is known as ‘the father of ‘color revolution’ in the world in Iran. According to Michael Barker, Gene Sharp and Ackerman are active on behalf of the US elite and government to wage civil disobedience against the targeted government around the world, but apparently Noam Chomsky, Howard Zinn, Stephen Zunes do not care otherwise they would not have supported gene Sharp and his organization publicly by signing a petition on his behalf. Another phony ‘peace’ organization where many sees it as US government front, CPD, has been criticized seriously by Herman & Petersen a few months earlier. Noam Chomsky has close cooperation with Campaign for Peace and Democracy, (CPD) and has signed all their petitions along with Joanne Landy on Iraq with reactionary slogan such as “we oppose both Saddam and US war on Iraq” and against Iran, “No to aggression, No to theocracy” which in both cases is nothing but slogan for the WAR.

http://swans.com/library/art15/barker38.html#2

By: Jeff Davis

Jeff Davis — Mon, 21 Dec 2009 18:29:49 +0000

My conclusion is simply demonstrated by the USS Liberty cover up in 1967 to the present is that American support of Israel is massively disproportionate, disloyally promulgated by “Israel Firsters” who put the interests of Israel always above the US . When you can kill 34 navy seaman with impunity and the US government goes along for expediency then something is terribly amiss. That was the starting gate. No one should be surprised at all by the resulting issues and conditions that have become ingrained in the American body politic.

Israel isn’t worth it. All costs and no benefits and if the experts ever accounted all the benefits allotted to Israel from loans, aids, tax deductions, settlement financing, neoconservative -Lukid foreign poliy agendas, costs of support, legislative aggrandizement, the complicity of the corporate media (hence its deserved decline for dishonesty), the Public would go berserk.

That would also apply to US support of nondemocratic Arab governments via internationalism and constant interventions in matters where “American interests” are not its citizens but corporate and financial hegemony.

It’s an inevitable pogrom waiting to happen and this one will be well deserved.

By: bozh

bozh — Mon, 21 Dec 2009 16:02:02 +0000

Any person who respects-loves basic human rights such as the rights to live, to have ROR, to be educated and informed, to receive medical treatment cannot be for land stealing.

Petras gives us only a partial WHY why US pols support or obey ‘jewish’ lobby.
It’s got to be more than money and fear of not being reelected. There must be a shared end goal btwn ‘zionists’ and planetarianists.
The shared end goal might be also total destruction of the most basic panhuman rights and not just to control or obtain the planet.
tnx

By: Elizabeth

Elizabeth — Mon, 21 Dec 2009 15:14:24 +0000

Another point to consider regarding the preferential status – how many Non- Jews are granted dual citizenship for being “non- Jewish”, versus American Jews being granted dual citizenship to Israel because they are Jewish. Does any other group of individuals receive such a preference as well?

By: Calm

Calm — Mon, 21 Dec 2009 10:02:04 +0000

I think that the most recent revelations of Israel admitting to the harvesting of Palestinian organs without consent is quite the fact to show the control of the Western media by Pro-Israel supporters.

When the story broke the complete world came unglued.
http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1108384.html

Every Jewish supporter claimed that the story was motivated by anti-Semitism.

Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu asked Stockholm to condemn the article and urged the world to boycott of the Swedish furniture chain IKEA.

Netanyahu added that the story was “reminiscent of medieval libels that Jews killed Christian children for their blood,” said the official.

People will only remember these denials …..

Today, Israel is admitting the facts and not a peep in Western TV Land.

The excuse given ….

“The guidelines at that time were not clear”

Israel Harvested Organs in ’90s Without Permission
Israel harvested organs from bodies, including Palestinians, in 1990s without permission
By Mark Lavie
December 20, 2009
http://abcnews.go.com/International/wirestory?id=9385479

And worse …. As of October 2009 ….

The highest-paid state physician is Prof. Yehuda Hiss, a veteran pathologist and head of the L. Greenberg Institute for Forensic Medicine at Abu Kabir, who has a gross salary of NIS 66,000 a month and more in benefits.
http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1256037268736&pagename=JPArticle%2FShowFull

By: Calm

Calm — Mon, 21 Dec 2009 09:35:17 +0000

I follow this issue rather closely.
http://www.pair-annoyed.com:9090/FORUM-DATABASE/showthread.php?t=16319

While reading this article, I noticed some corrections:

Notes:
1. Sid Shoniad Should read Sid Shniad
http://www.ijvcanada.org

7. See Stephan Lendman, “Will Congress Criminalize Israel Criticism,” Dec. 4, 2003

Should read Dec. 4, 2009 75. Julian Benda Should Read Julien Benda

Calm

By: Deadbeat

Deadbeat — Mon, 21 Dec 2009 08:36:32 +0000

Tool writes …

being too rational and too skeptic is kind of bad, coz i am too rational, too scientific (too evidence-based) which makes me a skeptical person by nature. What i mean is that i don’t trust the anti-zionism conspiracy-theorists just like i don’t trust the anti-conspiracy-theory dogmatic left.

I think being rational is a good attribute. There is nothing wrong about evidence-based analysis. It means that before you render an opinion you want to have information that you can base your determination. I also think ideology is important as well. Because even with evidence you need an ideology in order to bring context to your determination.
Also you’ll need ideology when you don’t all of the evidence or the evidence is sketchy.

My analysis of the Left falls with the context of ideology, evidence, and experience. My ideological beliefs are grounding in examining events from the standpoint of justice, equality and fairness. I at one point believed the Left shared that ideology as well. My realization that there are hidden agendas on the Left was based on my experience with the 2003 anti-war movement as the Left demobilized of the movement in order to avoid confronting and exposing Zionism influence on U.S. policy.

There are many reasons for that avoidance but what I noticed is that because the Left refused to face that issue not only are they complicit in aiding Zionism’s advancement. In that Faustian bargain, the Left lost the most important aspect of solidarity — TRUST. And without there is no solidarity and without solidarity there’s NO movement.

What I am seeing from the Left today is that they are trying to stimulate FALSE movements. And IMO these false movements is directly related to the fact of the Left unwillingness to confront both Zionism and Capitalism. In the end the people will see through the facade thus weakening whatever credibility the Left have even further.

The Left for the past 35 years has steered away from real Marxist analysis and as James Petras has pointed out in this article even “Marxist” has avoided confronting Zionism. The Left is in a very pathetic and pitiful condition.

So I think that what we need is an Anti-Israel Socialist Party in America, an anti-Zionism Socialism. And anti-Israel socialists like James Petras, and Michael Parenti.

The irony is that a real Socialist Party by definition must be anti-Zionist since real Socialists are both anti-Capitalist and anti-Racist. However I think before you can have a viable Party you’ll need to continue the communication and education among citizens. The reason I say this is from my experience with the Green Party. The Green Party was infiltrated with “activists” like foundation sycophant Medea Benjamin whose sole purpose in the Greens was to thwart Ralph Nader’s 2004 Presidential effort and to weaken the Green Party. With “Marxists” skittishness about confronting Zionism, it would be quite easy to disrupt and diffuse an anti-Zionist Socialist organization.

I think for now sites like DV and Information Clearing House help to educate people and help us express, share, and even debate our perspectives. The contribution of these sites are immense. What I think we may need are our own forums for communication and education so that we can continue to push for the truth, justice, fairness, equality and solidarity.

thx,
DB

By: Tool

Tool — Mon, 21 Dec 2009 05:35:11 +0000

HEY DEADBEAT: being too rational and too skeptic is kind of bad, coz i am too rational, too scientific (too evidence-based) which makes me a skeptical person by nature. What i mean is that i don’t trust the anti-zionism conspiracy-theorists just like i don’t trust the anti-conspiracy-theory dogmatic left. Although i am socialist, and i like Marx, Trotsky, Lenin, Mao, but not many marxists, trotskist parties and leninist parties in USA. I like the original source, not their followers. For example. The folks of “In defense of marxism” Marxist.com agree with the official version of 9-11, they also say that “Islamic Fundamentalism” is wrong, although they do attack the killer-state of Israel in their articles, they don’t talk about the jewish lobby in America (AIPAC).

Another website which is zionist and which deffends Israel to hell is revleft.com I was banned there once because i critisized israel. The folks of Revleft.com are also very anti-conspiracy-theory, they believe in the Bush and US government version of 9-11.

However the problem with conspiracy-theorists like Alex Jones and Jeff Rense is that they are anti-socialism and in favor of capitalism (The system that is destroying world)

So I think that what we need is an Anti-Israel Socialist Party in America, an anti-Zionism Socialism. And anti-Israel socialists like James Petras, and Michael Parenti.

By: Deadbeat

Deadbeat — Mon, 21 Dec 2009 02:51:25 +0000

Let’s not play cat and mouse. Zionism is associated with some faction of Jews. What makes a non-Jew Zionist, I ask you?

Why don’t you ask Joe Biden. He’s a self admitted ZIONIST.

By: Deadbeat

Deadbeat — Mon, 21 Dec 2009 02:49:52 +0000

Max writes... What I said Deadbeat was that your assessments as they have been regularly posted here have been ahistorical. The US is an empire. Do you deny that (as you seem to inimate)? Max did you READ Petras article he states clearly the following... The manifestations of Israeli power over the US are public, visible, outrageous and unprecedented in the annals of US foreign relations. Israeli power is wielded directly through its subordinated political arm, the ZPC, which in turn facilitates the direct intervention of the Israeli state in the internal politics of the US. Let us examine several crucial empirical indicators of Israeli power in the US. And he add more information to the this UNPRECEDENTED aspect in the HISTORY OF THE US on footnote #20. Therefore Max all you are doing is the tired and worn out tactic of the Chomskyite Left of strawman arguements. The very premise of your retort is a fallacy. Here's are some very important aspect of Petra's article... [1] During the Rosen-Weissman trial, numerous prominent Jewish leftists (including Democracy Now’s Amy Goodman) [2]The denial of the power of the ZPC by seemingly “progressive” and “leftist” writers and journalists has been one of the principal obstacles undermining efforts to effectively counter US government support for Israeli war crimes, the expansion of colonial settlements in the West Bank and the military/sanctions policies toward Iran. [3] footnote#42: Despite the general consensus among most Washington observers and congressional staff people regarding the power of what they call the Israel Lobby and despite the enormous influence of known Zionists in important foreign policy positions over the past 20 years (in the Clinton, Bush and Obama regimes) one looks in vain for any critical essays on Zionist power [by the Left]. [Critics of Zionism't influence on U.S. policy] are much more likely to receive a more balanced review in libertarian conservative publications [...] than from what appear to be Marxist…Zionist fellow travelers. As I've observed much too often Max your arguments are directly from the Chomskyite playbook -- downplay both Zionism and Marxist theory which essentially means retention of the status quo while pretending to be against it.