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		<title>By: Mulga Mumblebrain</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/11/the-paradise-imperative/#comment-58885</link>
		<dc:creator>Mulga Mumblebrain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 10:39:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the root of our predicament lies in the psyches of certain individuals. While most people would be content with sufficiency in all material possessions, and being freed from the life sentence on the treadmill of &#039;employment&#039;, with time freed thus to cultivate their spirits and their connections with others and the natural world, there exists the opposite type. The insatiably greedy individual from whose discontents, appetites, lack of scruples and antipathy to others market capitalism is formed, and who that system advantages and promotes in a deadly circle of re-inforcement.
                         This type, and they number in the few millions, dominate the planet. They control the rest through money power, life-long indoctrination and violence. They hire a few million more individuals, without any inhibitions on inflicting violence, to suppress any attempts to overturn their dominance. If they saw eco-villages as a real threat to their power, they would destroy them. However, at present they are content to use their total dominance of the means of mass communication merely to denigrate and belittle such communities as the dwelling-places of &#039;hippies&#039; and &#039;Greenies&#039;, both despised types, tolerated in the West, but often dealt with more harshly in the imperial outlands like Colombia, Central America and the Philippines.
                        Our masters are, of course, insane, morally and psychologically. They have been warned for decades of the coming ecological collapse, but have ignored then abused the scientists who brought the bad news. They have, instead of acting to avert disaster, erected a vast industry of denialism, where every crisis is methodically misrepresented and lied about, and these untruths relentlessly propagated by the hordes of spiritually bankrupt hate and fear-mongers they employ to brainwash the public. So great is their appetite for profit that they cannot look beyond next quarter&#039;s profits and bonuses.
                          I was reminded, yet again, as one is every day, on several occasions, of their scarcely credible stupidity and single-minded greed, by a radio story regarding blue-fin tuna. The scientists employed to study this vastly over-exploited species had found that the spawning stock was down to 5-10% of its unexploited population. This is the level at which the Newfoundland cod fishery collapsed, with no recovery so far, or in sight. It effectively means the fishery is kaput, so the political geniuses agreed to a meaningless 25% reduction in catch ie to do nothing. Even that was too much for the Mayor of a local fishing port. Displaying the arrogant ignorance and devout belief in magical thinking that are such marks of distinction of the politician in a capitalist economy, he simply dismissed the science as &#039;wrong&#039;. As ever, it is hard to know whether to laugh or cry.
                     I think the destruction is deliberate. I&#039;ve been convinced for years that the Rightwing, business, mentality is an expression of a deep dread of life, of nature and of other people, that transmutes readily into indifference and hostility. I think it has to do with the fear of death, and the belief that life is an unbearable burden of fear, self-loathing, rejection and sickness, crowned by a death that renders everything meaningless to the egotist. The life destroyers feel less powerless, less hopeless, when they are in control and asserting their power in the face of meaninglessness by destroying things. And I fear that it is plain that in our species, their psychic and spiritual pathologies have proved stronger by far than the life-affirming impulses of the other human type.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the root of our predicament lies in the psyches of certain individuals. While most people would be content with sufficiency in all material possessions, and being freed from the life sentence on the treadmill of &#8216;employment&#8217;, with time freed thus to cultivate their spirits and their connections with others and the natural world, there exists the opposite type. The insatiably greedy individual from whose discontents, appetites, lack of scruples and antipathy to others market capitalism is formed, and who that system advantages and promotes in a deadly circle of re-inforcement.<br />
                         This type, and they number in the few millions, dominate the planet. They control the rest through money power, life-long indoctrination and violence. They hire a few million more individuals, without any inhibitions on inflicting violence, to suppress any attempts to overturn their dominance. If they saw eco-villages as a real threat to their power, they would destroy them. However, at present they are content to use their total dominance of the means of mass communication merely to denigrate and belittle such communities as the dwelling-places of &#8216;hippies&#8217; and &#8216;Greenies&#8217;, both despised types, tolerated in the West, but often dealt with more harshly in the imperial outlands like Colombia, Central America and the Philippines.<br />
                        Our masters are, of course, insane, morally and psychologically. They have been warned for decades of the coming ecological collapse, but have ignored then abused the scientists who brought the bad news. They have, instead of acting to avert disaster, erected a vast industry of denialism, where every crisis is methodically misrepresented and lied about, and these untruths relentlessly propagated by the hordes of spiritually bankrupt hate and fear-mongers they employ to brainwash the public. So great is their appetite for profit that they cannot look beyond next quarter&#8217;s profits and bonuses.<br />
                          I was reminded, yet again, as one is every day, on several occasions, of their scarcely credible stupidity and single-minded greed, by a radio story regarding blue-fin tuna. The scientists employed to study this vastly over-exploited species had found that the spawning stock was down to 5-10% of its unexploited population. This is the level at which the Newfoundland cod fishery collapsed, with no recovery so far, or in sight. It effectively means the fishery is kaput, so the political geniuses agreed to a meaningless 25% reduction in catch ie to do nothing. Even that was too much for the Mayor of a local fishing port. Displaying the arrogant ignorance and devout belief in magical thinking that are such marks of distinction of the politician in a capitalist economy, he simply dismissed the science as &#8216;wrong&#8217;. As ever, it is hard to know whether to laugh or cry.<br />
                     I think the destruction is deliberate. I&#8217;ve been convinced for years that the Rightwing, business, mentality is an expression of a deep dread of life, of nature and of other people, that transmutes readily into indifference and hostility. I think it has to do with the fear of death, and the belief that life is an unbearable burden of fear, self-loathing, rejection and sickness, crowned by a death that renders everything meaningless to the egotist. The life destroyers feel less powerless, less hopeless, when they are in control and asserting their power in the face of meaninglessness by destroying things. And I fear that it is plain that in our species, their psychic and spiritual pathologies have proved stronger by far than the life-affirming impulses of the other human type.</p>
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		<title>By: Don Hawkins</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/11/the-paradise-imperative/#comment-58849</link>
		<dc:creator>Don Hawkins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Nov 2009 22:27:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yep</description>
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		<title>By: lichen</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/11/the-paradise-imperative/#comment-58847</link>
		<dc:creator>lichen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Nov 2009 22:11:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good post, Wingnut.  You are right; I&#039;ve noted myself that at college graduations, they don&#039;t say &#039;look out for each other, and alongside your own success, organize politically and socially to make sure everyone in your graduating class and generation can live a good life.&#039;  No, it&#039;s all about individual achievement, and if you reach the end of your twenties and haven&#039;t gotten to the top of the skycraper, you&#039;re encouraged to feel enough self-loathing that another world seems impossible.   Meanwhile, the air and water could be clean, and the land used for pistachio, persimmon, and cherry trees, with sorrel, grape vines, asparagus, and mushrooms below.  And no one would have to smile for the tourists or pad their resume or cultivate a &quot;winning personality,&quot; and their wouldn&#039;t be a hierarchy whereby young people are expected to work crap jobs for low wages and in bad working conditions, but keep a &#039;positive attitude&#039; about it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good post, Wingnut.  You are right; I&#8217;ve noted myself that at college graduations, they don&#8217;t say &#8216;look out for each other, and alongside your own success, organize politically and socially to make sure everyone in your graduating class and generation can live a good life.&#8217;  No, it&#8217;s all about individual achievement, and if you reach the end of your twenties and haven&#8217;t gotten to the top of the skycraper, you&#8217;re encouraged to feel enough self-loathing that another world seems impossible.   Meanwhile, the air and water could be clean, and the land used for pistachio, persimmon, and cherry trees, with sorrel, grape vines, asparagus, and mushrooms below.  And no one would have to smile for the tourists or pad their resume or cultivate a &#8220;winning personality,&#8221; and their wouldn&#8217;t be a hierarchy whereby young people are expected to work crap jobs for low wages and in bad working conditions, but keep a &#8216;positive attitude&#8217; about it.</p>
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		<title>By: Rehmat</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/11/the-paradise-imperative/#comment-58840</link>
		<dc:creator>Rehmat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Nov 2009 18:42:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Once a scholar said: &quot;We have reached the Moon, but we still have to learn how to live as good neighbors&quot;.

Well it&#039;s not planting trees or cleaning the street of garbage thrown randum - but tolerance of people of other color, religion, race and nationality - which would transform the Earth into a paradise. 

Racism, religious hatred and greed are the root of all evils going own in diffrent parts of the world. Take the case of India, for example:

http://rehmat1.wordpress.com/2009/11/08/india%e2%80%99s-breakup-is-inevitable/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Once a scholar said: &#8220;We have reached the Moon, but we still have to learn how to live as good neighbors&#8221;.</p>
<p>Well it&#8217;s not planting trees or cleaning the street of garbage thrown randum &#8211; but tolerance of people of other color, religion, race and nationality &#8211; which would transform the Earth into a paradise. </p>
<p>Racism, religious hatred and greed are the root of all evils going own in diffrent parts of the world. Take the case of India, for example:</p>
<p><a href="http://rehmat1.wordpress.com/2009/11/08/india%e2%80%99s-breakup-is-inevitable/" rel="nofollow">http://rehmat1.wordpress.com/2009/11/08/india%e2%80%99s-breakup-is-inevitable/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Max Shields</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/11/the-paradise-imperative/#comment-58816</link>
		<dc:creator>Max Shields</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Nov 2009 16:03:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Excellent, though brief, article. Agriculature, to be sustainable, must be keenly aware that it is disruptive to the ecosystem.

Permaculture provides and alternative, and dramatic increase in bio-diverse organic farming. We also need to see farmland as more than food producing, that it provides a myriad of environmental services which should be subsidized through local budgets, such as that which goes to waterfiltration. Runoff management is crucial and our open spaces, and farm lands can service these in ways that cannot be simply outsourced to &quot;utility-type&quot; companies.

Heinburg&#039;s 50 million farms - a lecture he gave to the E.F. Schumacher Society - speaks to this need to involve more of us in farming, that it should be de-industrialized and decommoditized. The notion of farmers simply looking out at consumers as mouths to feed, is not going to solve our food problem.

http://richardheinberg.live.postcarbon.org/museletter/175

Completely concur that it is the biological collapse which is before us and that most of the material collapse is to the good.

(I also agree that there are in motion much good on this score; but I&#039;m less optimistic about the ease with which this will simply happen.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent, though brief, article. Agriculature, to be sustainable, must be keenly aware that it is disruptive to the ecosystem.</p>
<p>Permaculture provides and alternative, and dramatic increase in bio-diverse organic farming. We also need to see farmland as more than food producing, that it provides a myriad of environmental services which should be subsidized through local budgets, such as that which goes to waterfiltration. Runoff management is crucial and our open spaces, and farm lands can service these in ways that cannot be simply outsourced to &#8220;utility-type&#8221; companies.</p>
<p>Heinburg&#8217;s 50 million farms &#8211; a lecture he gave to the E.F. Schumacher Society &#8211; speaks to this need to involve more of us in farming, that it should be de-industrialized and decommoditized. The notion of farmers simply looking out at consumers as mouths to feed, is not going to solve our food problem.</p>
<p><a href="http://richardheinberg.live.postcarbon.org/museletter/175" rel="nofollow">http://richardheinberg.live.postcarbon.org/museletter/175</a></p>
<p>Completely concur that it is the biological collapse which is before us and that most of the material collapse is to the good.</p>
<p>(I also agree that there are in motion much good on this score; but I&#8217;m less optimistic about the ease with which this will simply happen.)</p>
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		<title>By: Wingnut</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/11/the-paradise-imperative/#comment-58808</link>
		<dc:creator>Wingnut</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Nov 2009 13:29:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good article, and good comments, lichen.  I lived in Minneapolis for a number of years, and I noticed another &quot;interesting&quot; thing happening in cities.  Lots of small-town kids have gathered at the base of the &quot;balcony of the trinket throwers at Richie&#039;s Resort&quot;  (ie. the base of skyskrapers). They elbow each other in attempts to gather the trinkets being tossed from above.  All these trinket jumpers/tuggers try to get a leg-up on each other (in classic pyramid scheme fashion) and get positions as far up the skyskraper as possible... so they can grab the trinkets before they trickle down to the elbowing minions below.   But positions on the skyskraper are in high demand too, so high-elbowing/backstabbing is seen at those layers of the pyramid/rat-race, as well.

Most of the small town kids are share share share people, or at least WERE until coming to the city of servitude/inequality.  They HAD TO come, as nobody was tossing trinkets in their small hometowns, and all the small town colleges have been teaching about ways to collect trinkets in the city.

The parents of these kids and young adults... taught share share share up until 18 years old.  Then, there was a policy reversal and &quot;the great nest kicking&quot;... which is a &quot;get out there and fight fight fight&quot; policy.   Non-sharing had to be adopted... OR ELSE.  Near age 18, the kids are taught that you need to &quot;get out there&quot; and make a living... try to (de)fend-off the huge &quot;cost of living&quot; (size of free marketeers price tags blockading survival supplies).  They&#039;re actually &quot;indoctrinated&quot; into that policy reversal long before they turn 18.

At 18, you get a job OR ELSE, missy/mister.  Join the competer&#039;s church (capitalism/imperialism)... OR DIE!  &quot;That&#039;s life&quot;, they are told.  Its really NOT life, as not a single other living thing on the entire planet...  uses economies or &quot;join or starve&quot; felony extortion.  Capitalism is a church, a religion, a tradition, a bandwagon, a railroading... and its sure as hell not &quot;life&quot;.  But capitalism is SO widespread, that it &quot;seems&quot; like life.

Anyhoo, I&#039;ve wandered off a bit, but that&#039;s not unusual for me.  Really, I just wanted to point out that many many formerly loving and sharing former small-town kids... are huddled desperately around the bases of skyskrapers... brutally lying on their resume&#039;s... trying to get positions of trinket-catching.  And, as best I can tell, the white people have a distinct advantage when it comes to getting skyskraper positions, even though they are LOW positions.  There are a large number of non-white youngsters who have been doing trinket wars and living on the crumbs from skyskraper sweepings... for a LONG LONG time now.  Most will die there and never see their home towns or hometown love/inclusion ever again.  Truly sad.  The small towns are predominantly empty... and broke... and blighted.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good article, and good comments, lichen.  I lived in Minneapolis for a number of years, and I noticed another &#8220;interesting&#8221; thing happening in cities.  Lots of small-town kids have gathered at the base of the &#8220;balcony of the trinket throwers at Richie&#8217;s Resort&#8221;  (ie. the base of skyskrapers). They elbow each other in attempts to gather the trinkets being tossed from above.  All these trinket jumpers/tuggers try to get a leg-up on each other (in classic pyramid scheme fashion) and get positions as far up the skyskraper as possible&#8230; so they can grab the trinkets before they trickle down to the elbowing minions below.   But positions on the skyskraper are in high demand too, so high-elbowing/backstabbing is seen at those layers of the pyramid/rat-race, as well.</p>
<p>Most of the small town kids are share share share people, or at least WERE until coming to the city of servitude/inequality.  They HAD TO come, as nobody was tossing trinkets in their small hometowns, and all the small town colleges have been teaching about ways to collect trinkets in the city.</p>
<p>The parents of these kids and young adults&#8230; taught share share share up until 18 years old.  Then, there was a policy reversal and &#8220;the great nest kicking&#8221;&#8230; which is a &#8220;get out there and fight fight fight&#8221; policy.   Non-sharing had to be adopted&#8230; OR ELSE.  Near age 18, the kids are taught that you need to &#8220;get out there&#8221; and make a living&#8230; try to (de)fend-off the huge &#8220;cost of living&#8221; (size of free marketeers price tags blockading survival supplies).  They&#8217;re actually &#8220;indoctrinated&#8221; into that policy reversal long before they turn 18.</p>
<p>At 18, you get a job OR ELSE, missy/mister.  Join the competer&#8217;s church (capitalism/imperialism)&#8230; OR DIE!  &#8220;That&#8217;s life&#8221;, they are told.  Its really NOT life, as not a single other living thing on the entire planet&#8230;  uses economies or &#8220;join or starve&#8221; felony extortion.  Capitalism is a church, a religion, a tradition, a bandwagon, a railroading&#8230; and its sure as hell not &#8220;life&#8221;.  But capitalism is SO widespread, that it &#8220;seems&#8221; like life.</p>
<p>Anyhoo, I&#8217;ve wandered off a bit, but that&#8217;s not unusual for me.  Really, I just wanted to point out that many many formerly loving and sharing former small-town kids&#8230; are huddled desperately around the bases of skyskrapers&#8230; brutally lying on their resume&#8217;s&#8230; trying to get positions of trinket-catching.  And, as best I can tell, the white people have a distinct advantage when it comes to getting skyskraper positions, even though they are LOW positions.  There are a large number of non-white youngsters who have been doing trinket wars and living on the crumbs from skyskraper sweepings&#8230; for a LONG LONG time now.  Most will die there and never see their home towns or hometown love/inclusion ever again.  Truly sad.  The small towns are predominantly empty&#8230; and broke&#8230; and blighted.</p>
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		<title>By: lichen</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/11/the-paradise-imperative/#comment-58737</link>
		<dc:creator>lichen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Nov 2009 20:52:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, the agroforestry system described in the first paragraph is beautiful--is paradise, and is the way to go.  I, too, hope that a few ecovillages with this system could survive--people centered on sustainability and nonviolence.  The cities of this age are frightening places--heavily polluted, toxic nightmares with all the soil covered in pavement and with all the rain being washed into the sea instead of replenishing the earth--and they do present a major drain on non-cities, whose food and water they gobble up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, the agroforestry system described in the first paragraph is beautiful&#8211;is paradise, and is the way to go.  I, too, hope that a few ecovillages with this system could survive&#8211;people centered on sustainability and nonviolence.  The cities of this age are frightening places&#8211;heavily polluted, toxic nightmares with all the soil covered in pavement and with all the rain being washed into the sea instead of replenishing the earth&#8211;and they do present a major drain on non-cities, whose food and water they gobble up.</p>
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