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	<title>Comments on: The BBC&#8217;s Jeremy Paxman On Iraq &#8212; &#8220;We Were Hoodwinked&#8221;</title>
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		<title>By: thomas vesely</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/11/the-bbcs-jeremy-paxman-on-iraq-we-were-hoodwinked/#comment-61781</link>
		<dc:creator>thomas vesely</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Dec 2009 03:12:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>but i wish us all well,for millennia....................</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>but i wish us all well,for millennia&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: thomas vesely</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/11/the-bbcs-jeremy-paxman-on-iraq-we-were-hoodwinked/#comment-59057</link>
		<dc:creator>thomas vesely</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 11:53:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>there was a time when the media was independent,now it follows the &quot;party line&quot; ,the commercial interest and all the bandwagons.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>there was a time when the media was independent,now it follows the &#8220;party line&#8221; ,the commercial interest and all the bandwagons.</p>
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		<title>By: kalidas</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/11/the-bbcs-jeremy-paxman-on-iraq-we-were-hoodwinked/#comment-59016</link>
		<dc:creator>kalidas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 23:25:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wonderful to be aided by others who also aid themselves by doing neighborly work.

However, this doesn&#039;t mean you are not cheated every single day by the omnipresent others who lie, steal and cheat you out of ...  well ... the list is pretty darn long.

I reckon though, that it&#039;s better to be the cheated than the cheater. And I reckon most feel that way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wonderful to be aided by others who also aid themselves by doing neighborly work.</p>
<p>However, this doesn&#8217;t mean you are not cheated every single day by the omnipresent others who lie, steal and cheat you out of &#8230;  well &#8230; the list is pretty darn long.</p>
<p>I reckon though, that it&#8217;s better to be the cheated than the cheater. And I reckon most feel that way.</p>
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		<title>By: thomas vesely</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/11/the-bbcs-jeremy-paxman-on-iraq-we-were-hoodwinked/#comment-58999</link>
		<dc:creator>thomas vesely</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 21:17:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>kalidas,as a recent victim of the victorian bushfires,and recipient of much help from fellow citizens,i feel that it is not a society of cheaters.the only cheaters seem to be those with a calling to manage the affairs of others.the i&#039;m giving something back brigade.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>kalidas,as a recent victim of the victorian bushfires,and recipient of much help from fellow citizens,i feel that it is not a society of cheaters.the only cheaters seem to be those with a calling to manage the affairs of others.the i&#8217;m giving something back brigade.</p>
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		<title>By: kalidas</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/11/the-bbcs-jeremy-paxman-on-iraq-we-were-hoodwinked/#comment-58973</link>
		<dc:creator>kalidas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 16:43:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why leave anyone out?

&quot;A society of cheaters and the cheated.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why leave anyone out?</p>
<p>&#8220;A society of cheaters and the cheated.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: thomas vesely</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/11/the-bbcs-jeremy-paxman-on-iraq-we-were-hoodwinked/#comment-58966</link>
		<dc:creator>thomas vesely</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 13:34:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>perhaps,due to their influence on us all,the only relevant example is that of the politician.?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>perhaps,due to their influence on us all,the only relevant example is that of the politician.?</p>
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		<title>By: john andrews</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/11/the-bbcs-jeremy-paxman-on-iraq-we-were-hoodwinked/#comment-58963</link>
		<dc:creator>john andrews</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 12:53:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thomas,

There&#039;s a saying which goes: anyone who wants to be a policeman should be automatically rejected.

You could of course replace the word &#039;policeman&#039; with quite a large range of alternatives: politicians, lawyers, teachers, soldiers...or anyone else who likes to wear a uniform...or anyone who wants to be a CEO some day...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thomas,</p>
<p>There&#8217;s a saying which goes: anyone who wants to be a policeman should be automatically rejected.</p>
<p>You could of course replace the word &#8216;policeman&#8217; with quite a large range of alternatives: politicians, lawyers, teachers, soldiers&#8230;or anyone else who likes to wear a uniform&#8230;or anyone who wants to be a CEO some day&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: thomas vesely</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/11/the-bbcs-jeremy-paxman-on-iraq-we-were-hoodwinked/#comment-58952</link>
		<dc:creator>thomas vesely</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 06:32:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>approx. 4000 years ago the ancient greeks realised that ANY man that put up his hand to carry out civic duties had his own agenda.thus the very act of  putting up his hand was an automatic disqualification.they imposed the duty on people who they considered competent.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>approx. 4000 years ago the ancient greeks realised that ANY man that put up his hand to carry out civic duties had his own agenda.thus the very act of  putting up his hand was an automatic disqualification.they imposed the duty on people who they considered competent.</p>
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		<title>By: thomas vesely</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/11/the-bbcs-jeremy-paxman-on-iraq-we-were-hoodwinked/#comment-58939</link>
		<dc:creator>thomas vesely</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 02:10:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>the arrogance of the  usa is only matched by its mendacity and incompetence.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the arrogance of the  usa is only matched by its mendacity and incompetence.</p>
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		<title>By: john andrews</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/11/the-bbcs-jeremy-paxman-on-iraq-we-were-hoodwinked/#comment-58888</link>
		<dc:creator>john andrews</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 12:14:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Making &#039;&quot;mistakes&quot; is one of the standard excuses whenever our rulers, supporters or propagandists get caught spouting outright lies. It leads nicely into the standard response that &quot;lessons have been learnt&quot; - so those mistakes won&#039;t be made again.

Yeah right.

Mr Paxman has always appeared something of an intellectual lightweight to me, and I&#039;ve never really understood why interviewees are allegedly terrified of him. It seems his reputation is founded more on his ability to be loud, rude and obnoxious (and therefore moderately entertaining) than any ability to be penetrating and lethal. The softly spoken, mild mannered Brian Walden was infinitely more dangerous.

Paxman is simply doing what they&#039;ll all be doing soon - blaming someone else for the &quot;mistakes&quot; they made - but the inescapable fact is that those &quot;mistakes&quot; are the result of gross incompetence or criminal deceit, neither of which justifies the continued employment of these individuals. As most of us know, if there was any real justice in the world most of our main decision-makers would all be tucked up behind bars.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Making &#8216;&#8221;mistakes&#8221; is one of the standard excuses whenever our rulers, supporters or propagandists get caught spouting outright lies. It leads nicely into the standard response that &#8220;lessons have been learnt&#8221; &#8211; so those mistakes won&#8217;t be made again.</p>
<p>Yeah right.</p>
<p>Mr Paxman has always appeared something of an intellectual lightweight to me, and I&#8217;ve never really understood why interviewees are allegedly terrified of him. It seems his reputation is founded more on his ability to be loud, rude and obnoxious (and therefore moderately entertaining) than any ability to be penetrating and lethal. The softly spoken, mild mannered Brian Walden was infinitely more dangerous.</p>
<p>Paxman is simply doing what they&#8217;ll all be doing soon &#8211; blaming someone else for the &#8220;mistakes&#8221; they made &#8211; but the inescapable fact is that those &#8220;mistakes&#8221; are the result of gross incompetence or criminal deceit, neither of which justifies the continued employment of these individuals. As most of us know, if there was any real justice in the world most of our main decision-makers would all be tucked up behind bars.</p>
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		<title>By: Annie Ladysmith</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/11/the-bbcs-jeremy-paxman-on-iraq-we-were-hoodwinked/#comment-58780</link>
		<dc:creator>Annie Ladysmith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Nov 2009 08:25:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Colin Powell was speaking the truth.  He knew exactly what &#039;weapons of mass destruction&#039; Iraq had because the US GOVERNMENT HAD SOLD SADDAM EVERY WEAPON OF MASS DESTRUCTION HE HAD IN HIS ARSENEL.

That&#039;s why the army was ordered to blow up every site in situ, because the boxes of plagues and chemical gases had the countries of origin plastered all over them.  Iraq is the most toxic place on the planet. Why aren&#039;t all the government enviromentalists wailing and gnashing their teeth about that?????

Good journalists don&#039;t get &#039;hoodwinked&#039;. We all know that the media of mass deception was bought a long time ago by the power-elite, &#039;the enlightened ones&#039;. &#039;Hoodwinked&#039; my ass!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Colin Powell was speaking the truth.  He knew exactly what &#8216;weapons of mass destruction&#8217; Iraq had because the US GOVERNMENT HAD SOLD SADDAM EVERY WEAPON OF MASS DESTRUCTION HE HAD IN HIS ARSENEL.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s why the army was ordered to blow up every site in situ, because the boxes of plagues and chemical gases had the countries of origin plastered all over them.  Iraq is the most toxic place on the planet. Why aren&#8217;t all the government enviromentalists wailing and gnashing their teeth about that?????</p>
<p>Good journalists don&#8217;t get &#8216;hoodwinked&#8217;. We all know that the media of mass deception was bought a long time ago by the power-elite, &#8216;the enlightened ones&#8217;. &#8216;Hoodwinked&#8217; my ass!</p>
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		<title>By: beverly</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/11/the-bbcs-jeremy-paxman-on-iraq-we-were-hoodwinked/#comment-58756</link>
		<dc:creator>beverly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Nov 2009 00:55:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Paxman is just another example of the media as stenographer/propagandist for the government/corporate complex.    Spare me the hoodwinked defense; it&#039;s been offered up as an excuse by his journalism brethren from both sides of the political aisle.  


“It offers you the opportunity to meet all sorts of fascinating people… If you have a curious mind and you like words it’s a wonderful, wonderful occupation.” But the pay is not good, he warned: “The salaries are very poor… There is no job security.” Nevertheless: “It remains a fascinating way to spend your time.”

Paxman considers journalism salaries to be poor?  He hasn&#039;t seen my paycheck - nor that of a great many other working stiffs out here.    I&#039;d swap out my monthly pittance for his in a heartbeat.  A good example of the out of touch/don&#039;t have a clue about reality disease that afflicts the media.    The glamour, the proximity to power and celebrity, and the nice paydays (via paycheck or primo networking opportunities with power elites)  - Paxman  and his  mainstream counterparts aren&#039;t about derail their gravy train by engaging in actual journalism any time soon.

The next time he&#039;s out pontificating and posturing before an audience, let&#039;s hope a shoe gets thrown his way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Paxman is just another example of the media as stenographer/propagandist for the government/corporate complex.    Spare me the hoodwinked defense; it&#8217;s been offered up as an excuse by his journalism brethren from both sides of the political aisle.  </p>
<p>“It offers you the opportunity to meet all sorts of fascinating people… If you have a curious mind and you like words it’s a wonderful, wonderful occupation.” But the pay is not good, he warned: “The salaries are very poor… There is no job security.” Nevertheless: “It remains a fascinating way to spend your time.”</p>
<p>Paxman considers journalism salaries to be poor?  He hasn&#8217;t seen my paycheck &#8211; nor that of a great many other working stiffs out here.    I&#8217;d swap out my monthly pittance for his in a heartbeat.  A good example of the out of touch/don&#8217;t have a clue about reality disease that afflicts the media.    The glamour, the proximity to power and celebrity, and the nice paydays (via paycheck or primo networking opportunities with power elites)  &#8211; Paxman  and his  mainstream counterparts aren&#8217;t about derail their gravy train by engaging in actual journalism any time soon.</p>
<p>The next time he&#8217;s out pontificating and posturing before an audience, let&#8217;s hope a shoe gets thrown his way.</p>
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		<title>By: bozh</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/11/the-bbcs-jeremy-paxman-on-iraq-we-were-hoodwinked/#comment-58747</link>
		<dc:creator>bozh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Nov 2009 22:56:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Davy,
pols, clergy, media knew what we had known but US constitution demands that US expands by any means- even use of nukes. So, it is the constitution, stupid!
Everything US does is constitutional. 
Recall please indians, new mexico, nicaragua, cuba, panama, korea, vietnam, ww1, afpak, philippines, and another 150 invasions/skirmishes- all under one and the only constitution.
It stays. Gov&#039;ts come and go! Expect that constitution will demand at least another 50 wars. All in service of the &#039;country&#039; and its &#039;security&#039;.
Not, of course, for all americans; just some! tnx</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Davy,<br />
pols, clergy, media knew what we had known but US constitution demands that US expands by any means- even use of nukes. So, it is the constitution, stupid!<br />
Everything US does is constitutional.<br />
Recall please indians, new mexico, nicaragua, cuba, panama, korea, vietnam, ww1, afpak, philippines, and another 150 invasions/skirmishes- all under one and the only constitution.<br />
It stays. Gov&#8217;ts come and go! Expect that constitution will demand at least another 50 wars. All in service of the &#8216;country&#8217; and its &#8216;security&#8217;.<br />
Not, of course, for all americans; just some! tnx</p>
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		<title>By: kalidas</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/11/the-bbcs-jeremy-paxman-on-iraq-we-were-hoodwinked/#comment-58744</link>
		<dc:creator>kalidas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Nov 2009 22:29:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Because all the pseudo intellectual journalistic media politico types have whole heartedly embraced that newfangled &quot;voluntary pro-semitism,&quot; perhaps?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Because all the pseudo intellectual journalistic media politico types have whole heartedly embraced that newfangled &#8220;voluntary pro-semitism,&#8221; perhaps?</p>
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		<title>By: Davy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Davy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Nov 2009 20:24:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How come 99.9% the news media, politicians, opinion-makers, analysts and experts were hoodwinked, while we common folks saw through all the propaganda immediately?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How come 99.9% the news media, politicians, opinion-makers, analysts and experts were hoodwinked, while we common folks saw through all the propaganda immediately?</p>
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		<title>By: mary</title>
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		<dc:creator>mary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Nov 2009 18:05:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>He was only hoodwinked but the Iraqis were slaughtered by the hundreds of thousands and their country and culture destroyed.

This arch pompous bore gets £1million p.a*. from the BBC licence fee payers alone, is a member of the British American Project  (laughingly thought of as a CIA offshoot)  and has a brother embedded in the British Foreign Office (Ambassador to Mexico) and a sister who works in the BBC as a radio producer. All good cogs in the machine.

*2006</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He was only hoodwinked but the Iraqis were slaughtered by the hundreds of thousands and their country and culture destroyed.</p>
<p>This arch pompous bore gets £1million p.a*. from the BBC licence fee payers alone, is a member of the British American Project  (laughingly thought of as a CIA offshoot)  and has a brother embedded in the British Foreign Office (Ambassador to Mexico) and a sister who works in the BBC as a radio producer. All good cogs in the machine.</p>
<p>*2006</p>
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		<title>By: Rehmat</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rehmat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Nov 2009 18:05:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hoodwinked? Does Paxman expect us to believe that he was an idiot and did not know that he was working for an Israeli propaganda out fit?

BBC&#039;s Jews
http://rehmat1.wordpress.com/2009/01/26/bbcs-jews/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hoodwinked? Does Paxman expect us to believe that he was an idiot and did not know that he was working for an Israeli propaganda out fit?</p>
<p>BBC&#8217;s Jews<br />
<a href="http://rehmat1.wordpress.com/2009/01/26/bbcs-jews/" rel="nofollow">http://rehmat1.wordpress.com/2009/01/26/bbcs-jews/</a></p>
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		<title>By: bozh</title>
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		<dc:creator>bozh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Nov 2009 17:13:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Paxman may have never heard or thought of the-necessary-truth-principle that no human has the right to attack another human regardless of what the wld-be atacker thought.
Similarly, a land has no right to attack another even if its manufacturing anything and especially trying to obtain what the evil empires already have.

Only if a land wld attack another land with wmd or any other weapons wld UN have the right to attack that land.
But still beter wld be to prevent a wmd attack. It cld be easily prevented by a simple UN vow that those who ordered attack wld be hunted, killed, or captured. 
In case of an greatly disfunctional and evil empire like iraq, saddam wld have seen the writing on the wall: 6.7bn mad people wld be after him if he wld use wmd.
In addition, and evil empire like iraq can be held together only thru oppression, torture, killings, etc.
Which, of course,  the empire did lot of. And obtained further 18mn very mad enemies.
However, US wants self to use one day wmd and its leaders&#039; absolvency from that crime. Thus, saddam was not to be hunted, killed, or captured for alegeledly making wmd. That cannot do! It is clearly against US interests!
To conclude, paxman 03=paxman 09. Or  US1750=US=19=US 52.
tnx</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Paxman may have never heard or thought of the-necessary-truth-principle that no human has the right to attack another human regardless of what the wld-be atacker thought.<br />
Similarly, a land has no right to attack another even if its manufacturing anything and especially trying to obtain what the evil empires already have.</p>
<p>Only if a land wld attack another land with wmd or any other weapons wld UN have the right to attack that land.<br />
But still beter wld be to prevent a wmd attack. It cld be easily prevented by a simple UN vow that those who ordered attack wld be hunted, killed, or captured.<br />
In case of an greatly disfunctional and evil empire like iraq, saddam wld have seen the writing on the wall: 6.7bn mad people wld be after him if he wld use wmd.<br />
In addition, and evil empire like iraq can be held together only thru oppression, torture, killings, etc.<br />
Which, of course,  the empire did lot of. And obtained further 18mn very mad enemies.<br />
However, US wants self to use one day wmd and its leaders&#8217; absolvency from that crime. Thus, saddam was not to be hunted, killed, or captured for alegeledly making wmd. That cannot do! It is clearly against US interests!<br />
To conclude, paxman 03=paxman 09. Or  US1750=US=19=US 52.<br />
tnx</p>
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