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	<title>Comments on: Suffer the Children: The Exploitation of America’s Most Vulnerable</title>
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		<title>By: Mirah Riben</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/11/suffer-the-children-the-exploitation-of-america%e2%80%99s-most-vulnerable/#comment-61884</link>
		<dc:creator>Mirah Riben</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Dec 2009 03:54:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ah...the child&#039;s right  family...INDEED!  

&quot;Every child has the right to know and be cared for by his or her own parents, whenever possible. UNICEF believes that families needing support to care for their children should receive it.&quot; UNICEF

The Uniform Adoption Act calls for the protection of &quot;minor children against
unnecessary separation from their birth parents.&quot;

Get it? Children have a RIGHT to their &quot;own&quot; parents - i.e. those who conceived and bore him,. that is very child&#039;s fist right. Alternative care is necessary for children who are truly orphaned or have no extended family able to provide safe care for them...but they still should ne be deprived of an ongoing relationship or knowledge of their original family. American adoption denies them that human right.  But such alternative care is always a last resort after all means of keeping the child within his kin is explored and exhausted. And international adoption is the last, last resort ...again, as per the UN.

Adoption is about finding homes for needy children. It is NOT about - or should not be about --  finding children to meet anyone&#039;s desire or the orders they believe entitled to such as specific ages.

Children have become commodities. There is big money in their redistribution. That is why they are being sent INTO and OUT OF the US!!  They go anyone who can pay. They&#039;ve even been adopted to pedophiles!

The profit must be removed from child care for it to be child-centered and put the interests of children first. THAT IS THE WHOLE POINT HERE. Nothing more and nothing less.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah&#8230;the child&#8217;s right  family&#8230;INDEED!  </p>
<p>&#8220;Every child has the right to know and be cared for by his or her own parents, whenever possible. UNICEF believes that families needing support to care for their children should receive it.&#8221; UNICEF</p>
<p>The Uniform Adoption Act calls for the protection of &#8220;minor children against<br />
unnecessary separation from their birth parents.&#8221;</p>
<p>Get it? Children have a RIGHT to their &#8220;own&#8221; parents &#8211; i.e. those who conceived and bore him,. that is very child&#8217;s fist right. Alternative care is necessary for children who are truly orphaned or have no extended family able to provide safe care for them&#8230;but they still should ne be deprived of an ongoing relationship or knowledge of their original family. American adoption denies them that human right.  But such alternative care is always a last resort after all means of keeping the child within his kin is explored and exhausted. And international adoption is the last, last resort &#8230;again, as per the UN.</p>
<p>Adoption is about finding homes for needy children. It is NOT about &#8211; or should not be about &#8212;  finding children to meet anyone&#8217;s desire or the orders they believe entitled to such as specific ages.</p>
<p>Children have become commodities. There is big money in their redistribution. That is why they are being sent INTO and OUT OF the US!!  They go anyone who can pay. They&#8217;ve even been adopted to pedophiles!</p>
<p>The profit must be removed from child care for it to be child-centered and put the interests of children first. THAT IS THE WHOLE POINT HERE. Nothing more and nothing less.</p>
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		<title>By: v</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/11/suffer-the-children-the-exploitation-of-america%e2%80%99s-most-vulnerable/#comment-60517</link>
		<dc:creator>v</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Nov 2009 19:18:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ok, so there&#039;s isn&#039;t the &quot;right&quot; to adopt but what about the Child&#039;s right of a family?
or your right to a family? When you say “no one has the right to adopt” you’re saying that no-one has the right to a family including the children.
Please think twice before writing and just for the record those kids dying in Africa or being prostituted here are still living with the biological family so that’s the best for them?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok, so there&#8217;s isn&#8217;t the &#8220;right&#8221; to adopt but what about the Child&#8217;s right of a family?<br />
or your right to a family? When you say “no one has the right to adopt” you’re saying that no-one has the right to a family including the children.<br />
Please think twice before writing and just for the record those kids dying in Africa or being prostituted here are still living with the biological family so that’s the best for them?</p>
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		<title>By: Mary</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/11/suffer-the-children-the-exploitation-of-america%e2%80%99s-most-vulnerable/#comment-60515</link>
		<dc:creator>Mary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Nov 2009 18:55:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If you are mega rich like Madonna, you can just waltz into an African country and take your pick.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you are mega rich like Madonna, you can just waltz into an African country and take your pick.</p>
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		<title>By: Mirah Riben</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/11/suffer-the-children-the-exploitation-of-america%e2%80%99s-most-vulnerable/#comment-60512</link>
		<dc:creator>Mirah Riben</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Nov 2009 17:43:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[“True” rights are inalienable. They exist whether or not they are recognized, and whether or not the ability or the will to defend them exists.

True rights do not impose an implicit obligation upon any other person to provide them to us. In fact, rights exist in greatest measure when we are each simply “left alone”.

If something must be provided to us at the expense of someone else in order for us to have it, then it may be an entitlement, a privilege, or an act of charity – but it is not a “right”. 

The constitution of the US grants further &quot;rights&quot; such as a right to nurture one&#039;s biological children.  The UN CRC calls for the right of children to maintain contact with their family of origins.

However, there is no right to adopt the child os an unrelated person. it does not exis anywhere in the world. It is a PRIVILEGE!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“True” rights are inalienable. They exist whether or not they are recognized, and whether or not the ability or the will to defend them exists.</p>
<p>True rights do not impose an implicit obligation upon any other person to provide them to us. In fact, rights exist in greatest measure when we are each simply “left alone”.</p>
<p>If something must be provided to us at the expense of someone else in order for us to have it, then it may be an entitlement, a privilege, or an act of charity – but it is not a “right”. </p>
<p>The constitution of the US grants further &#8220;rights&#8221; such as a right to nurture one&#8217;s biological children.  The UN CRC calls for the right of children to maintain contact with their family of origins.</p>
<p>However, there is no right to adopt the child os an unrelated person. it does not exis anywhere in the world. It is a PRIVILEGE!</p>
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		<title>By: Lisa S.</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/11/suffer-the-children-the-exploitation-of-america%e2%80%99s-most-vulnerable/#comment-60502</link>
		<dc:creator>Lisa S.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Nov 2009 16:46:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Mirah,
Just for the record, I did not say that people have the right to adopt (although they do in my opinion if the birthparent chooses to place their child for adoption), I said &quot;Mirah, when someone wants to expand their family, it is their right to choose where they adopt from and what age child they feel capable of raising.&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mirah,<br />
Just for the record, I did not say that people have the right to adopt (although they do in my opinion if the birthparent chooses to place their child for adoption), I said &#8220;Mirah, when someone wants to expand their family, it is their right to choose where they adopt from and what age child they feel capable of raising.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: v</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/11/suffer-the-children-the-exploitation-of-america%e2%80%99s-most-vulnerable/#comment-60501</link>
		<dc:creator>v</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Nov 2009 16:45:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I saw: threedaysforthreedaughters.typepad.com and read all the news about adoption in Guatemala, one of the articles says &quot;One in every 100 Guatemalan children is adopted by an American family&quot; then &quot;American families adopted 4,728 Guatemalan children last year&quot; so you&#039;re telling me there were 472.800 orphans in Guatemala? let&#039;s assume half these kids were kidnapped, do the Guatemalan police have 236.400 missing child reports? 
Ok, so there’s something wrong with Guatemalans adoption but don’t assume that what happens there happens everywhere.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I saw: threedaysforthreedaughters.typepad.com and read all the news about adoption in Guatemala, one of the articles says &#8220;One in every 100 Guatemalan children is adopted by an American family&#8221; then &#8220;American families adopted 4,728 Guatemalan children last year&#8221; so you&#8217;re telling me there were 472.800 orphans in Guatemala? let&#8217;s assume half these kids were kidnapped, do the Guatemalan police have 236.400 missing child reports?<br />
Ok, so there’s something wrong with Guatemalans adoption but don’t assume that what happens there happens everywhere.</p>
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		<title>By: Lisa S.</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/11/suffer-the-children-the-exploitation-of-america%e2%80%99s-most-vulnerable/#comment-60500</link>
		<dc:creator>Lisa S.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Nov 2009 16:40:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thank you for your honesty v.  A Guatemalan friend of mine living in Guatemala City tells me exactly what you are telling us - things she SEES and things she reads in the newspapers everyday, and that is just the reported cases. In remote areas of Guatemala where poverty is greatest, things happen that are never reported.

It is hard for some Americans to understand the mentality of families living in destitution. They  examine situations from their ideology and norms - and that is unrealistic. Does this justify kidnapping babies and coercing parents to place children for adoption? Absolutley not. But there were MANY changes that could have been made to the adoption system without closing down adoption AND leaving over 900 children in the middle of adoptions in limbo. Their birthmothers have ahd the opportunity to reclaim their children, but haven&#039;t.

Ideally, no child would ever be separated from their parents and every family would be able to raise their children. That would be a perfect world and we should aim for that, and many adoptive parents are huge supporters of the countries their children come from. But until the world is a better place for everyone, these children CAN&#039;T WAIT. They need food, home, education, and most important a LOVING permanent family.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for your honesty v.  A Guatemalan friend of mine living in Guatemala City tells me exactly what you are telling us &#8211; things she SEES and things she reads in the newspapers everyday, and that is just the reported cases. In remote areas of Guatemala where poverty is greatest, things happen that are never reported.</p>
<p>It is hard for some Americans to understand the mentality of families living in destitution. They  examine situations from their ideology and norms &#8211; and that is unrealistic. Does this justify kidnapping babies and coercing parents to place children for adoption? Absolutley not. But there were MANY changes that could have been made to the adoption system without closing down adoption AND leaving over 900 children in the middle of adoptions in limbo. Their birthmothers have ahd the opportunity to reclaim their children, but haven&#8217;t.</p>
<p>Ideally, no child would ever be separated from their parents and every family would be able to raise their children. That would be a perfect world and we should aim for that, and many adoptive parents are huge supporters of the countries their children come from. But until the world is a better place for everyone, these children CAN&#8217;T WAIT. They need food, home, education, and most important a LOVING permanent family.</p>
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		<title>By: v</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/11/suffer-the-children-the-exploitation-of-america%e2%80%99s-most-vulnerable/#comment-60488</link>
		<dc:creator>v</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Nov 2009 14:02:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You have to make up your mind… you say “Not asking for an end of all adoption” and then “no one has a RIGHT to adopt!” sooooo….??? If you’re not against all adoptions but you say no one has the right to adopt, so who can adopt?
Again …No one has the right to adopt?  So no child has the right to live in a family? No infertile woman has the right to have a baby? 
You rather see them in the streets or locked up in Institutions that don’t care about them and where people just “do their job”? 
As I told you before, you have to really live here to understand what you’re writing about.
I help a Children’s Home called “Hogar Bethel” it’s a place where parents that can’t raise their kids but don’t want them to be adopted leave their children as long as they want.  There are 64 children, 36 have been there more than 5 years, some since birth, and do they get visits from their family? Yes of course, four times a year for those that are “lucky”, once a year they give the family the chance to place their child for adoption, in 80% of the cases they agree so the child is moved to another place to wait for a family that it’s more likely to never show up because they’re not babies or toddlers anymore.
You look too worried about the “loss of heritage” of these kids so let’s prohibit Chinese, Hindu or Mexicans couples that live in the US to give birth there, don’t you think? so their child won’t “lose their heritage”. 
I wasn’t born here, I moved from Uruguay when I was 3, did I lose my heritage? I really don’t care; I like this country also love Uruguay but above all I LOVE having this “mix” of cultures, just because you look Chinese doesn’t mean you HAVE to be Chinese.
Kids are being kidnapped for adoption in Guatemala? So you’re telling me Guatemala’s population decreased significantly? Where are getting short of Guatemalans? No? I though so…
It’s easier to say they’re being kidnapped from their poor family to sell them to rich Americans couples that admit the ugly truth; they’re being sold by their own parents, but you don’t have to believe me just grab a newspaper from one of these countries, every day you’ll find news about abandoned, sold or like I read today “Mothers kills her 9 months baby girl and drop the body in the sewer” I have to admit it I rather read about killed children than about abandoned or raped girls in the streets.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You have to make up your mind… you say “Not asking for an end of all adoption” and then “no one has a RIGHT to adopt!” sooooo….??? If you’re not against all adoptions but you say no one has the right to adopt, so who can adopt?<br />
Again …No one has the right to adopt?  So no child has the right to live in a family? No infertile woman has the right to have a baby?<br />
You rather see them in the streets or locked up in Institutions that don’t care about them and where people just “do their job”?<br />
As I told you before, you have to really live here to understand what you’re writing about.<br />
I help a Children’s Home called “Hogar Bethel” it’s a place where parents that can’t raise their kids but don’t want them to be adopted leave their children as long as they want.  There are 64 children, 36 have been there more than 5 years, some since birth, and do they get visits from their family? Yes of course, four times a year for those that are “lucky”, once a year they give the family the chance to place their child for adoption, in 80% of the cases they agree so the child is moved to another place to wait for a family that it’s more likely to never show up because they’re not babies or toddlers anymore.<br />
You look too worried about the “loss of heritage” of these kids so let’s prohibit Chinese, Hindu or Mexicans couples that live in the US to give birth there, don’t you think? so their child won’t “lose their heritage”.<br />
I wasn’t born here, I moved from Uruguay when I was 3, did I lose my heritage? I really don’t care; I like this country also love Uruguay but above all I LOVE having this “mix” of cultures, just because you look Chinese doesn’t mean you HAVE to be Chinese.<br />
Kids are being kidnapped for adoption in Guatemala? So you’re telling me Guatemala’s population decreased significantly? Where are getting short of Guatemalans? No? I though so…<br />
It’s easier to say they’re being kidnapped from their poor family to sell them to rich Americans couples that admit the ugly truth; they’re being sold by their own parents, but you don’t have to believe me just grab a newspaper from one of these countries, every day you’ll find news about abandoned, sold or like I read today “Mothers kills her 9 months baby girl and drop the body in the sewer” I have to admit it I rather read about killed children than about abandoned or raped girls in the streets.</p>
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		<title>By: Lisa S.</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/11/suffer-the-children-the-exploitation-of-america%e2%80%99s-most-vulnerable/#comment-60487</link>
		<dc:creator>Lisa S.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Nov 2009 13:37:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[From my friend who just returned from an orphanage in Guatemala City she visits regularly. Remember, when they have time to &quot;prepare&quot; before an outsider comes to visit, the kids get cleaned up and so does the hogar. 

&quot; The kids are beautiful and they are just starving for attention! I would guess there were between 40 and 50 kids from age 4 and down outside playing when we arrived and just 4 women trying to be care giver, referee, booboo soother and play partner. An impossible task! They do their best but the odds are a little overwhelming.&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From my friend who just returned from an orphanage in Guatemala City she visits regularly. Remember, when they have time to &#8220;prepare&#8221; before an outsider comes to visit, the kids get cleaned up and so does the hogar. </p>
<p>&#8221; The kids are beautiful and they are just starving for attention! I would guess there were between 40 and 50 kids from age 4 and down outside playing when we arrived and just 4 women trying to be care giver, referee, booboo soother and play partner. An impossible task! They do their best but the odds are a little overwhelming.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Lisa S.</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/11/suffer-the-children-the-exploitation-of-america%e2%80%99s-most-vulnerable/#comment-60410</link>
		<dc:creator>Lisa S.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Nov 2009 17:37:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Mirah, read the comment above your last one. 
Amen.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mirah, read the comment above your last one.<br />
Amen.</p>
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		<title>By: Mirah Riben</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/11/suffer-the-children-the-exploitation-of-america%e2%80%99s-most-vulnerable/#comment-60406</link>
		<dc:creator>Mirah Riben</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Nov 2009 17:26:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Not asking for an end of all adoption - calling for a refocus back to what adoption was intended to be for: helping ORPHANS and children who do not have parents who are capable of providing them with safe care.  Calling for an end to eradicating a child&#039;s heritage.  Calling for enforced openness....and end to just sending babies back and forth in and OUT OF he US for baby brokers profit!!

Adoption is intended to help kids - no one has a RIGHT to adopt!  Those who are adopting ARE choosing and their choices are leaving behind those most in need while creating demand that perpetuates more child trafficking.

Children ARE kidnapped and trafficked for adoption in Guatemala and elsewhere. Saying it is not so does not change that proven FACT.  There children have been identified as living with US families and our government has not complied with international treaties to investigate .

See: threedaysforthreedaughters.typepad.com]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not asking for an end of all adoption &#8211; calling for a refocus back to what adoption was intended to be for: helping ORPHANS and children who do not have parents who are capable of providing them with safe care.  Calling for an end to eradicating a child&#8217;s heritage.  Calling for enforced openness&#8230;.and end to just sending babies back and forth in and OUT OF he US for baby brokers profit!!</p>
<p>Adoption is intended to help kids &#8211; no one has a RIGHT to adopt!  Those who are adopting ARE choosing and their choices are leaving behind those most in need while creating demand that perpetuates more child trafficking.</p>
<p>Children ARE kidnapped and trafficked for adoption in Guatemala and elsewhere. Saying it is not so does not change that proven FACT.  There children have been identified as living with US families and our government has not complied with international treaties to investigate .</p>
<p>See: threedaysforthreedaughters.typepad.com</p>
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		<title>By: v</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/11/suffer-the-children-the-exploitation-of-america%e2%80%99s-most-vulnerable/#comment-60384</link>
		<dc:creator>v</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Nov 2009 15:20:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I really can&#039;t believe there are people writing so many *&amp;@%* about adoption. I&#039;m from one of the poorest country in South America, one that is closed for International Adoptions and what&#039;s the result of that decision? Hundreds of children in the street taking drugs and little girl prostitution, no one told me…. I see them everyday in my way to work and I’ve seen girls as young as 6 waiting for “clients” at night.
The government says “they’re trying to help” but that “help” means give them some food and nothing more because they DON’T CARE!
I rather see a little girl/boy being adopted by an American family that see them dying of hunger and diseases, I agree they  should try to place the child with a local family but the reality is that people in countries like China, Russia, India is not willing to adopt, specially in China when there is “only child policy”.
Kids are not being kidnapped, they’re being abandoned by parents that probably have many kids already or don’t want a baby girl because they are not as worth as boys but like happens here many of these children are being sold by their own mothers.
It easy to write against adoption when you don’t live in a 3rd world country (visiting doesn’t count) three weeks ago a 15 years old girl offered me her baby girl for 10U$, I told her to give her to adoption… she asked me how much they “pay” for the baby.
I invite you to move to one of these countries for 5 years then write about adoption again, you have to learn a lot.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I really can&#8217;t believe there are people writing so many *&amp;@%* about adoption. I&#8217;m from one of the poorest country in South America, one that is closed for International Adoptions and what&#8217;s the result of that decision? Hundreds of children in the street taking drugs and little girl prostitution, no one told me…. I see them everyday in my way to work and I’ve seen girls as young as 6 waiting for “clients” at night.<br />
The government says “they’re trying to help” but that “help” means give them some food and nothing more because they DON’T CARE!<br />
I rather see a little girl/boy being adopted by an American family that see them dying of hunger and diseases, I agree they  should try to place the child with a local family but the reality is that people in countries like China, Russia, India is not willing to adopt, specially in China when there is “only child policy”.<br />
Kids are not being kidnapped, they’re being abandoned by parents that probably have many kids already or don’t want a baby girl because they are not as worth as boys but like happens here many of these children are being sold by their own mothers.<br />
It easy to write against adoption when you don’t live in a 3rd world country (visiting doesn’t count) three weeks ago a 15 years old girl offered me her baby girl for 10U$, I told her to give her to adoption… she asked me how much they “pay” for the baby.<br />
I invite you to move to one of these countries for 5 years then write about adoption again, you have to learn a lot.</p>
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		<title>By: Lisa S.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lisa S.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Nov 2009 14:37:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Yet, in either case, they are, by and large, mostly choosing to adopt children under 5 and are choosing to ignore older children in US foster care and in overseas orphanages. &quot;

Mirah, when someone wants to expand their family, it is their right to choose where they adopt from and what age child they feel capable of raising.

Many Canadians have adopted American childen over the years. You can check out the stats at this website.  http://www.adoption.ca/2008%20International%20Adoption%20Stats.htm
African Americans do not suffer from the same degree of prejudice in Canada as they do in the US.  I do believe that many of these children are part of open adoptions, an option none of the Korean adoptees in the study ever had. 
For that matter, adoptive parents with children from other countries are doing searches for birth parents so that their children will have contact with their birth parents. That contact makes a world of difference to the adopted children and brings peace of mind to the birth parents, and allows the adoptive parents to know the true circumstance behind the reasons for the adoption. 

Adoptive parents of children born in Guatemala often help support the birth families back in Guatemala. 

Elimination of corruption in adoption must always be strived for. However, I do not agree with you that adoption should be eliminated. As more longitudinal studies on the effects of adoption on internationally and transracially adopted children are done, there will be a difference in results from the study by the Donaldson Institute (I read the study by  the way). Adoption is no longer a &quot;dirty secret,&quot; and the children adopted in the last 10 years or more are growing up in a healthier more acceptable and understanding environment.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Yet, in either case, they are, by and large, mostly choosing to adopt children under 5 and are choosing to ignore older children in US foster care and in overseas orphanages. &#8221;</p>
<p>Mirah, when someone wants to expand their family, it is their right to choose where they adopt from and what age child they feel capable of raising.</p>
<p>Many Canadians have adopted American childen over the years. You can check out the stats at this website.  <a href="http://www.adoption.ca/2008%20International%20Adoption%20Stats.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.adoption.ca/2008%20International%20Adoption%20Stats.htm</a><br />
African Americans do not suffer from the same degree of prejudice in Canada as they do in the US.  I do believe that many of these children are part of open adoptions, an option none of the Korean adoptees in the study ever had.<br />
For that matter, adoptive parents with children from other countries are doing searches for birth parents so that their children will have contact with their birth parents. That contact makes a world of difference to the adopted children and brings peace of mind to the birth parents, and allows the adoptive parents to know the true circumstance behind the reasons for the adoption. </p>
<p>Adoptive parents of children born in Guatemala often help support the birth families back in Guatemala. </p>
<p>Elimination of corruption in adoption must always be strived for. However, I do not agree with you that adoption should be eliminated. As more longitudinal studies on the effects of adoption on internationally and transracially adopted children are done, there will be a difference in results from the study by the Donaldson Institute (I read the study by  the way). Adoption is no longer a &#8220;dirty secret,&#8221; and the children adopted in the last 10 years or more are growing up in a healthier more acceptable and understanding environment.</p>
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		<title>By: Mirah Riben</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/11/suffer-the-children-the-exploitation-of-america%e2%80%99s-most-vulnerable/#comment-60351</link>
		<dc:creator>Mirah Riben</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Nov 2009 04:43:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[No one is &#039;forced&#039; to adopt, but 20,000 Americans are adopting transnationally each year, many claiming they are &quot;desperate&quot; to be parents. Some are adopting -- even when they have biological children -- because they believe they are doing a good deed.  Yet, in either case, they are, by and large, mostly choosing to adopt children under 5 and are choosing to ignore older children in US foster care and in overseas orphanages. 

As for Korean adoptees versus domestic, you might want to read:

A recent study, &quot;Beyond Culture Camp: Promoting Positive Identity Formation in Adoption,&quot; by Evan B. Donaldson examined two adult groups -- Korean-born adoptees and white adoptees. More white adoptees (35 percent) than Korean (21 percent) indicated teasing simply because they were adopted. 

*** And one more time - my major criticism in this article is EXPORTING US kids, and again I ask: what rationale is there for that? ***]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No one is &#8216;forced&#8217; to adopt, but 20,000 Americans are adopting transnationally each year, many claiming they are &#8220;desperate&#8221; to be parents. Some are adopting &#8212; even when they have biological children &#8212; because they believe they are doing a good deed.  Yet, in either case, they are, by and large, mostly choosing to adopt children under 5 and are choosing to ignore older children in US foster care and in overseas orphanages. </p>
<p>As for Korean adoptees versus domestic, you might want to read:</p>
<p>A recent study, &#8220;Beyond Culture Camp: Promoting Positive Identity Formation in Adoption,&#8221; by Evan B. Donaldson examined two adult groups &#8212; Korean-born adoptees and white adoptees. More white adoptees (35 percent) than Korean (21 percent) indicated teasing simply because they were adopted. </p>
<p>*** And one more time &#8211; my major criticism in this article is EXPORTING US kids, and again I ask: what rationale is there for that? ***</p>
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		<title>By: lichen</title>
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		<dc:creator>lichen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Nov 2009 04:12:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[B99 and the others are right about you, Lisa--accusing the Palestinians of being &quot;terrorists&quot; (and of course in your narrow mind any tactics such people take to resist occupation, land theft, and murder must be &#039;terrorist&#039; because they don&#039;t have a state while Israel does) and using some zionist blogs as your proof is ridiculous, and no, people don&#039;t tolerate it here.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>B99 and the others are right about you, Lisa&#8211;accusing the Palestinians of being &#8220;terrorists&#8221; (and of course in your narrow mind any tactics such people take to resist occupation, land theft, and murder must be &#8216;terrorist&#8217; because they don&#8217;t have a state while Israel does) and using some zionist blogs as your proof is ridiculous, and no, people don&#8217;t tolerate it here.</p>
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		<title>By: B99</title>
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		<dc:creator>B99</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Nov 2009 02:56:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Suit yourself Lisa - just as long as you understand that anti-Arab racism or any other kind of racism will not go unremarked upon here.  You want to help children?  Work to get Israeli high school grads out of Palestine where they put the children of Palestine in their gun sights - and pull the trigger.  Israeli kids are raised on that, you know?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Suit yourself Lisa &#8211; just as long as you understand that anti-Arab racism or any other kind of racism will not go unremarked upon here.  You want to help children?  Work to get Israeli high school grads out of Palestine where they put the children of Palestine in their gun sights &#8211; and pull the trigger.  Israeli kids are raised on that, you know?</p>
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		<title>By: Lisa S.</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/11/suffer-the-children-the-exploitation-of-america%e2%80%99s-most-vulnerable/#comment-60343</link>
		<dc:creator>Lisa S.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Nov 2009 02:49:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[B99 - I said end of discussion with you.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>B99 &#8211; I said end of discussion with you.</p>
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		<title>By: B99</title>
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		<dc:creator>B99</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Nov 2009 02:44:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Lisa - There&#039;s never an end to a discussion.  For you to use propaganda organizations who have signed on to the notion that Israel should be propped up whenever possible and that the Palestinians should be derogated whenever possible disqualifies you as one who can discuss the issue rationally.  And to present their &#039;findings&#039; as fact!!!  Because Palestinian Media Watch says so!!!  Hubris or ignorance, I don&#039;t know.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lisa &#8211; There&#8217;s never an end to a discussion.  For you to use propaganda organizations who have signed on to the notion that Israel should be propped up whenever possible and that the Palestinians should be derogated whenever possible disqualifies you as one who can discuss the issue rationally.  And to present their &#8216;findings&#8217; as fact!!!  Because Palestinian Media Watch says so!!!  Hubris or ignorance, I don&#8217;t know.</p>
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		<title>By: Lisa S.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lisa S.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Nov 2009 02:31:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[To B99: Pardon me? Where do you see racist rhetoric against Palestinians in any of my comments?
And besmirch UNICEF to make my case? What a load of b*&amp;&amp;$%&amp;t. End of discussion with you.

To Mirah:
I&#039;ve read a lot of what Korean adoptees have had to say and am in  contact with one of them who has returned to live in Korea. Adoptees were treated radically different at the time many of these Korean adoptees were brought to the U.S.  Adoptive parents were told to act as if their adopted child was just like them - the old &quot;melting pot theory.&quot;  Little if any discussion of adoption took place and the adoptees&#039; ethnic background and culture were ignored. Things are radically different now in most adoptive families.  

And regarding who decides how a person enlarges their family - You said, &quot;Why should we support transnational adoptions while ignoring our own kids in need?&quot; That decision is up to  the people who are going to raise the child.  And why put this burden solely on  people who are adopting? Following your train of thought, why not force people to adopt these children rather than have  a biological child? Is it only people who have fertility problems or a desire to reach beyond the borders of their own country that should take care of the children in foster care in this country?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To B99: Pardon me? Where do you see racist rhetoric against Palestinians in any of my comments?<br />
And besmirch UNICEF to make my case? What a load of b*&amp;&amp;$%&amp;t. End of discussion with you.</p>
<p>To Mirah:<br />
I&#8217;ve read a lot of what Korean adoptees have had to say and am in  contact with one of them who has returned to live in Korea. Adoptees were treated radically different at the time many of these Korean adoptees were brought to the U.S.  Adoptive parents were told to act as if their adopted child was just like them &#8211; the old &#8220;melting pot theory.&#8221;  Little if any discussion of adoption took place and the adoptees&#8217; ethnic background and culture were ignored. Things are radically different now in most adoptive families.  </p>
<p>And regarding who decides how a person enlarges their family &#8211; You said, &#8220;Why should we support transnational adoptions while ignoring our own kids in need?&#8221; That decision is up to  the people who are going to raise the child.  And why put this burden solely on  people who are adopting? Following your train of thought, why not force people to adopt these children rather than have  a biological child? Is it only people who have fertility problems or a desire to reach beyond the borders of their own country that should take care of the children in foster care in this country?</p>
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		<title>By: B99</title>
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		<dc:creator>B99</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Nov 2009 02:10:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Lisa - Remember, it was you who started the racist rhetoric against the Palestinians, and you would besmirch UNICEF just to make your case - and use tendentious front organizations to do so.  You should understand that Israel not only makes orphans via killing Palestinian adults, it shoots their children too.

On the other hand, I believe every word Mirah Riben says.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lisa &#8211; Remember, it was you who started the racist rhetoric against the Palestinians, and you would besmirch UNICEF just to make your case &#8211; and use tendentious front organizations to do so.  You should understand that Israel not only makes orphans via killing Palestinian adults, it shoots their children too.</p>
<p>On the other hand, I believe every word Mirah Riben says.</p>
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