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	<title>Comments on: President Clinton and Now Obama: Who the Bleep Does Netanyahu Think He Is?</title>
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		<title>By: jon s</title>
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		<dc:creator>jon s</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Dec 2009 05:39:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>An Appeal

I&#039;ve contributed to DV from time to time, mainly from a Left-Zionist perspective. Lately I&#039;ve stayed away from posting here, both for personal reasons ( I have a        life ,after all...) , but also because of the deterioration in the &quot;discussion&quot; to childish name-calling and personal attacks.
I think that differences can be expressed forcefully –even vehemently – while maintaining a courteous and civil tone.
Let&#039;s call each other by the names we chose to write under, let&#039;s show some mutual respect, let&#039;s have a sane and rational discussion.
What do you all say?</description>
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<p>I&#8217;ve contributed to DV from time to time, mainly from a Left-Zionist perspective. Lately I&#8217;ve stayed away from posting here, both for personal reasons ( I have a        life ,after all&#8230;) , but also because of the deterioration in the &#8220;discussion&#8221; to childish name-calling and personal attacks.<br />
I think that differences can be expressed forcefully –even vehemently – while maintaining a courteous and civil tone.<br />
Let&#8217;s call each other by the names we chose to write under, let&#8217;s show some mutual respect, let&#8217;s have a sane and rational discussion.<br />
What do you all say?</p>
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		<title>By: B99</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/11/president-clinton-and-now-obama-%e2%80%93-who-the-bleep-does-netanyahu-think-he-is/#comment-61238</link>
		<dc:creator>B99</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Dec 2009 03:23:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Public Committee Against Torture in Israel (PCATI) released today [2 December 2009] a new report which exposes the shifts in Israel&#039;s combat doctrine as evidenced in the prosecution of operation &quot;Cast Lead&quot; and from numerous public oral and written statements made by high ranking military officers and senior Israeli government officials. 
The report, &quot;No Second Thoughts: Changes in the IDF&#039;s Combat Doctrine In Light Of Operation &#039;Cast Lead&#039;,&quot; demonstrates Israel&#039;s application of a new combat doctrine during the hostilities in Gaza, which is based on two principles:
&quot;Zero Casualties&quot;: The complete prioritization of avoiding IDF [Israeli army] casualties while disregarding the increased risk to Palestinian civilians. The implementation of this policy is evident in the massive use of fire power, the use of white phosphorous weapons in densely populated areas, and in firing at Palestinians in the streets, with no discrimination between combatants and civilians, this even after the IDF would order the evacuation of residents from civilian homes.
&quot;Dahiyah Doctrine&quot;: named after the residential Dahiyah district in Beirut, where Hizballah enjoyed support and also had its headquarters. The district was massively bombed by the IDF during the Second Lebanon War. The doctrine promotes targeting civilian infrastructure in order to cause widespread destruction and suffering among the civilian population so as to foment popular opposition to Israel&#039;s opponents (namely Hamas and Hizballah).
As a result of the implementation of these principles, the fighting in the Gaza Strip caused intentional and large-scale damage to civilian infrastructure as well as the killing of hundreds of non-combatant civilians (despite the absence of an official policy to intentionally kill civilians). Israel&#039;s actions directly contradict official statements claiming that the IDF acted in accordance with international humanitarian law and took every possible measure to avoid harming non-militant civilians.
This combat doctrine morally stains the citizens of Israel. It may lead to increased international isolation of Israel and to a situation where Israeli soldiers, officers and leaders will face arrest outside of Israel and be charged with war crimes. The writers of the report summarize: &quot;So fundamental a shift in the IDF&#039;s combat doctrine, which has such a far-reaching impact, shouldn&#039;t be considered only in the closed forums of the General Headquarters and the Security Cabinet, but demands substantial public discussion.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Public Committee Against Torture in Israel (PCATI) released today [2 December 2009] a new report which exposes the shifts in Israel&#8217;s combat doctrine as evidenced in the prosecution of operation &#8220;Cast Lead&#8221; and from numerous public oral and written statements made by high ranking military officers and senior Israeli government officials.<br />
The report, &#8220;No Second Thoughts: Changes in the IDF&#8217;s Combat Doctrine In Light Of Operation &#8216;Cast Lead&#8217;,&#8221; demonstrates Israel&#8217;s application of a new combat doctrine during the hostilities in Gaza, which is based on two principles:<br />
&#8220;Zero Casualties&#8221;: The complete prioritization of avoiding IDF [Israeli army] casualties while disregarding the increased risk to Palestinian civilians. The implementation of this policy is evident in the massive use of fire power, the use of white phosphorous weapons in densely populated areas, and in firing at Palestinians in the streets, with no discrimination between combatants and civilians, this even after the IDF would order the evacuation of residents from civilian homes.<br />
&#8220;Dahiyah Doctrine&#8221;: named after the residential Dahiyah district in Beirut, where Hizballah enjoyed support and also had its headquarters. The district was massively bombed by the IDF during the Second Lebanon War. The doctrine promotes targeting civilian infrastructure in order to cause widespread destruction and suffering among the civilian population so as to foment popular opposition to Israel&#8217;s opponents (namely Hamas and Hizballah).<br />
As a result of the implementation of these principles, the fighting in the Gaza Strip caused intentional and large-scale damage to civilian infrastructure as well as the killing of hundreds of non-combatant civilians (despite the absence of an official policy to intentionally kill civilians). Israel&#8217;s actions directly contradict official statements claiming that the IDF acted in accordance with international humanitarian law and took every possible measure to avoid harming non-militant civilians.<br />
This combat doctrine morally stains the citizens of Israel. It may lead to increased international isolation of Israel and to a situation where Israeli soldiers, officers and leaders will face arrest outside of Israel and be charged with war crimes. The writers of the report summarize: &#8220;So fundamental a shift in the IDF&#8217;s combat doctrine, which has such a far-reaching impact, shouldn&#8217;t be considered only in the closed forums of the General Headquarters and the Security Cabinet, but demands substantial public discussion.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: B99</title>
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		<dc:creator>B99</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Dec 2009 03:11:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, dizzy, I support the struggles and efforts of Native-Americans.  Precisely the same policy I have as toward Israel.  US now exists and you can&#039;t send anyone &#039;back&#039; anywhere.  Indeed, Manifest Destiny is a variation on lebensraum - maybe even a model for it and Erez Israel.
It&#039;s safe to say that Americans - at least politically conscious ones - have long come to terms with this country&#039;s tawdry history, maybe for three decades now. No one can do movies anymore where Indians terrorize whites, rape their women, scalp the men, and talk like automatons. It&#039;s only Israelis that have not come to term with THEIR history - and until you do, you guys are seriously subpar as neighbors and citizens.  
I don&#039;t only blame Israel, I blame the &quot;Israel-Firsters&#039; in my country, and the stupid goyim who run scared when a Jew with clout shows up.  I blame US policy makers for spurning the good people of the Middle East for this little tyranny.  We paid for this with 9/11.  Why shouldn&#039;t I blame Israel?  Who else runs an Apartheid regime in stolen land?  What other country illegally occupies another?  What other country have we poured more than a hundred billion dollars into so it can commit genocide on the native natural people of that land?  And with my money and our money.  

No anti-Semitism here!  Some of my easiest girlfriends have been Semites. Just an accurate depiction of what you are up to - lying sack of shit.  You see, you KNOW you&#039;re getting the rest of Palestine the way the US got this continent. And you want it so bad you&#039;ve lost all connection to decency, to humanity, to civilization. 

My parents?  New Yorkers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, dizzy, I support the struggles and efforts of Native-Americans.  Precisely the same policy I have as toward Israel.  US now exists and you can&#8217;t send anyone &#8216;back&#8217; anywhere.  Indeed, Manifest Destiny is a variation on lebensraum &#8211; maybe even a model for it and Erez Israel.<br />
It&#8217;s safe to say that Americans &#8211; at least politically conscious ones &#8211; have long come to terms with this country&#8217;s tawdry history, maybe for three decades now. No one can do movies anymore where Indians terrorize whites, rape their women, scalp the men, and talk like automatons. It&#8217;s only Israelis that have not come to term with THEIR history &#8211; and until you do, you guys are seriously subpar as neighbors and citizens.<br />
I don&#8217;t only blame Israel, I blame the &#8220;Israel-Firsters&#8217; in my country, and the stupid goyim who run scared when a Jew with clout shows up.  I blame US policy makers for spurning the good people of the Middle East for this little tyranny.  We paid for this with 9/11.  Why shouldn&#8217;t I blame Israel?  Who else runs an Apartheid regime in stolen land?  What other country illegally occupies another?  What other country have we poured more than a hundred billion dollars into so it can commit genocide on the native natural people of that land?  And with my money and our money.  </p>
<p>No anti-Semitism here!  Some of my easiest girlfriends have been Semites. Just an accurate depiction of what you are up to &#8211; lying sack of shit.  You see, you KNOW you&#8217;re getting the rest of Palestine the way the US got this continent. And you want it so bad you&#8217;ve lost all connection to decency, to humanity, to civilization. </p>
<p>My parents?  New Yorkers.</p>
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		<title>By: deceschi</title>
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		<dc:creator>deceschi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Dec 2009 02:22:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, bullshi, on which land are you sitting on, you that you even haven&#039;t any kind of roots or ancestors or history there were you live, but you are the product and the child of colonialism pure which uprooted and exterminated entire native Indian populations? Shall I say: but that&#039;s the way of the Christians - greedy for new land and resourses (&quot;Lebensraum&quot;) that not belong to you, BUT double-standard hypocritical enough not to admit it? Clean record? 
And why so desirous to blame Israel, the state of the Jews, but blind for the faults of others (let alone of the Palestinians and Arabs)?
So what is your problem with the Jews in particular? Do you see it? Do you see your sick anti-Semitism?

Who was your father, who were your parents, bullshi?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, bullshi, on which land are you sitting on, you that you even haven&#8217;t any kind of roots or ancestors or history there were you live, but you are the product and the child of colonialism pure which uprooted and exterminated entire native Indian populations? Shall I say: but that&#8217;s the way of the Christians &#8211; greedy for new land and resourses (&#8220;Lebensraum&#8221;) that not belong to you, BUT double-standard hypocritical enough not to admit it? Clean record?<br />
And why so desirous to blame Israel, the state of the Jews, but blind for the faults of others (let alone of the Palestinians and Arabs)?<br />
So what is your problem with the Jews in particular? Do you see it? Do you see your sick anti-Semitism?</p>
<p>Who was your father, who were your parents, bullshi?</p>
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		<title>By: B99</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/11/president-clinton-and-now-obama-%e2%80%93-who-the-bleep-does-netanyahu-think-he-is/#comment-61225</link>
		<dc:creator>B99</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Dec 2009 01:39:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No doubt Dizzy, Jews have been all those things you name - and more - much more!!  Ha!  But you lost the battle to the Germans, so you take it out on the Palestinians.  Like we both well understand - the Palestinians did not go to the Stetls, you went to their country and shot them into ditches.  They are native, you are not -  in this way you created your own problem.  But that is the way of the Jews, brilliant but fatally flawed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No doubt Dizzy, Jews have been all those things you name &#8211; and more &#8211; much more!!  Ha!  But you lost the battle to the Germans, so you take it out on the Palestinians.  Like we both well understand &#8211; the Palestinians did not go to the Stetls, you went to their country and shot them into ditches.  They are native, you are not &#8211;  in this way you created your own problem.  But that is the way of the Jews, brilliant but fatally flawed.</p>
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		<title>By: deceschi</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/11/president-clinton-and-now-obama-%e2%80%93-who-the-bleep-does-netanyahu-think-he-is/#comment-61221</link>
		<dc:creator>deceschi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Dec 2009 00:09:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No man, Israel lives under barbarians since her birth and can not help but to be a strong nation. Jews have always been and are still poets, artists, scientists and intellectuals - first the horrors of the Nazis, than the Arabs forced them to be soldiers in their homeland  in order to survive. But how can you understand this, you ignoramus (lacking in wisdom and saneness) par excellence.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No man, Israel lives under barbarians since her birth and can not help but to be a strong nation. Jews have always been and are still poets, artists, scientists and intellectuals &#8211; first the horrors of the Nazis, than the Arabs forced them to be soldiers in their homeland  in order to survive. But how can you understand this, you ignoramus (lacking in wisdom and saneness) par excellence.</p>
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		<title>By: B99</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/11/president-clinton-and-now-obama-%e2%80%93-who-the-bleep-does-netanyahu-think-he-is/#comment-61220</link>
		<dc:creator>B99</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Dec 2009 23:53:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>History!!

Some 60% of all capital invested in Palestine from 1933-39 was channeled thru agreements with the Nazis. As part of the deal the World Zionist Organization began soliciting customers for Germany. Eventually the Zionists began exporting Palestinian oranges to Belgium and Holland using Nazi ships - and by 1936 began selling Hitler&#039;s goods in Britain.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>History!!</p>
<p>Some 60% of all capital invested in Palestine from 1933-39 was channeled thru agreements with the Nazis. As part of the deal the World Zionist Organization began soliciting customers for Germany. Eventually the Zionists began exporting Palestinian oranges to Belgium and Holland using Nazi ships &#8211; and by 1936 began selling Hitler&#8217;s goods in Britain.</p>
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		<title>By: B99</title>
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		<dc:creator>B99</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Dec 2009 23:52:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>EVERYBODY I know in Europe understands that Israel is the problem child, that as horrific as terrorism is, it does not let Israel off the hook for its barbarism - that its a charade for Israelis to cry wolf, blame the terrorists as it operates its 19th century brand of racial politics and ultranationalist ideology.

Israelis have no problem but their own inadequately developed sense of humanity - or should we say warped sense of  their own importance.  Basically, Europeans understand that if Israel kept to itself, reactionary Islam would self-contain.  A whole lot of Europeans were proud that Hazballa won that war.  They thought it would teach the Jews a lesson.  But as always, they absorbed the wrong lesson.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>EVERYBODY I know in Europe understands that Israel is the problem child, that as horrific as terrorism is, it does not let Israel off the hook for its barbarism &#8211; that its a charade for Israelis to cry wolf, blame the terrorists as it operates its 19th century brand of racial politics and ultranationalist ideology.</p>
<p>Israelis have no problem but their own inadequately developed sense of humanity &#8211; or should we say warped sense of  their own importance.  Basically, Europeans understand that if Israel kept to itself, reactionary Islam would self-contain.  A whole lot of Europeans were proud that Hazballa won that war.  They thought it would teach the Jews a lesson.  But as always, they absorbed the wrong lesson.</p>
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		<title>By: b99</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/11/president-clinton-and-now-obama-%e2%80%93-who-the-bleep-does-netanyahu-think-he-is/#comment-61169</link>
		<dc:creator>b99</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Dec 2009 15:13:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mary - I&#039;ve attended productions of &quot;My name is Rachel Corrie&quot; several times in several cities - to some degree in solidarity in as much as American &quot;Israel-First&quot; forces do their level (unlevel?) best to make sure this wonderful - if heartbreaking story sees not the light of day.  I&#039;ve attended more than once with a cousin of Rachel.  And on a related note, I&#039;ve escorted Rachel&#039;s parents to congressional offices in futile efforts to get our government to investigate Rachel&#039;s murder.  It&#039;s all worth it - she&#039;s America&#039;s Anne Frank - but better, Rachel had a political conscience.

Thanks much</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mary &#8211; I&#8217;ve attended productions of &#8220;My name is Rachel Corrie&#8221; several times in several cities &#8211; to some degree in solidarity in as much as American &#8220;Israel-First&#8221; forces do their level (unlevel?) best to make sure this wonderful &#8211; if heartbreaking story sees not the light of day.  I&#8217;ve attended more than once with a cousin of Rachel.  And on a related note, I&#8217;ve escorted Rachel&#8217;s parents to congressional offices in futile efforts to get our government to investigate Rachel&#8217;s murder.  It&#8217;s all worth it &#8211; she&#8217;s America&#8217;s Anne Frank &#8211; but better, Rachel had a political conscience.</p>
<p>Thanks much</p>
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		<title>By: b99</title>
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		<dc:creator>b99</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Dec 2009 14:16:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>dizzy - there are no guarantees of peace. Who has that?  Where anywhere in the world is peace guaranteed?  Peace is something people and nations must strive for on a constant and rigorous basis - do you think you can demand a peace guarantee because you are Jewish?  Do you think that because peace has not been guranteed for Israel you can make life holy hell for your neighbors.  Get the fuck out of  their country - that&#039;s how you get and give peace.  Don&#039;t try to pretend that this is about a guaranteed peace even as you violate every tenet of the Geneva Conventions - even as you more your people onto what little remains of another&#039;s land.  

Noble savage?  Speaking of guarantees, I can guarantee I have spent far more time (unless you did an IDF tour of Injun-killing in Palestine) in the WB&amp;G than you have.  Palestinians are not holy - but they are a generous and virtually unarmed people and YOU (YOU DECESCHI) are stealing their land and eliminating their culture.  That makes you akin to - and as I&#039;ve shown - a spiritual descendent of those who muddied about in the racial lebensraum waters of the mid-nineteeth century Germanic lands.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>dizzy &#8211; there are no guarantees of peace. Who has that?  Where anywhere in the world is peace guaranteed?  Peace is something people and nations must strive for on a constant and rigorous basis &#8211; do you think you can demand a peace guarantee because you are Jewish?  Do you think that because peace has not been guranteed for Israel you can make life holy hell for your neighbors.  Get the fuck out of  their country &#8211; that&#8217;s how you get and give peace.  Don&#8217;t try to pretend that this is about a guaranteed peace even as you violate every tenet of the Geneva Conventions &#8211; even as you more your people onto what little remains of another&#8217;s land.  </p>
<p>Noble savage?  Speaking of guarantees, I can guarantee I have spent far more time (unless you did an IDF tour of Injun-killing in Palestine) in the WB&amp;G than you have.  Palestinians are not holy &#8211; but they are a generous and virtually unarmed people and YOU (YOU DECESCHI) are stealing their land and eliminating their culture.  That makes you akin to &#8211; and as I&#8217;ve shown &#8211; a spiritual descendent of those who muddied about in the racial lebensraum waters of the mid-nineteeth century Germanic lands.</p>
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		<title>By: deceschi</title>
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		<dc:creator>deceschi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Dec 2009 10:36:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>bullshi - you deserve more and more the nickname I found expressly for you (upsidedown69 has probably still a too sweet taste). To align a piece of s*** after another seems to be you speciality. 
What you still don&#039;t understand is the fact that even if Israel would withdraw completely behind the 67-borders - what in priciples I agree with - this wouldn&#039;t at all be a garantee for peace. You and your fellows Israel-haters are so one-sided programmed against Israel and, on the other hand, obviously so naiv toward your Palestinian buddies to believe that the latter are not even able to hurt a fly. 

You seem so comfortable in your modern pseudo-leftist myth of the Noble Savage. But reality is always a bit different from our dreams.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>bullshi &#8211; you deserve more and more the nickname I found expressly for you (upsidedown69 has probably still a too sweet taste). To align a piece of s*** after another seems to be you speciality.<br />
What you still don&#8217;t understand is the fact that even if Israel would withdraw completely behind the 67-borders &#8211; what in priciples I agree with &#8211; this wouldn&#8217;t at all be a garantee for peace. You and your fellows Israel-haters are so one-sided programmed against Israel and, on the other hand, obviously so naiv toward your Palestinian buddies to believe that the latter are not even able to hurt a fly. </p>
<p>You seem so comfortable in your modern pseudo-leftist myth of the Noble Savage. But reality is always a bit different from our dreams.</p>
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		<title>By: mary</title>
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		<dc:creator>mary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Dec 2009 08:37:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the last but one writer is a worthy candidate to be talking about excrement. Is he one and the same as Mebosa Ritchie? The comment is at the same base level.

I have just read Charlotte Silver&#039;s moving account about an attempt to prevent the production of a play My Name is Rachel Corrie at Stanford University. She and her friend Amanda Gelender, the play&#039;s producer, remind us that there are American citizens who are prepared to stand up for right.

http://electronicintifada.net/v2/article10922.shtml
&quot;My Name is Rachel Corrie&quot; and Israel&#039;s waning impunity 
Charlotte Silver, The Electronic Intifada, 2 December 2009</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the last but one writer is a worthy candidate to be talking about excrement. Is he one and the same as Mebosa Ritchie? The comment is at the same base level.</p>
<p>I have just read Charlotte Silver&#8217;s moving account about an attempt to prevent the production of a play My Name is Rachel Corrie at Stanford University. She and her friend Amanda Gelender, the play&#8217;s producer, remind us that there are American citizens who are prepared to stand up for right.</p>
<p><a href="http://electronicintifada.net/v2/article10922.shtml" rel="nofollow">http://electronicintifada.net/v2/article10922.shtml</a><br />
&#8220;My Name is Rachel Corrie&#8221; and Israel&#8217;s waning impunity<br />
Charlotte Silver, The Electronic Intifada, 2 December 2009</p>
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		<title>By: Mulga Mumblebrain</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/11/president-clinton-and-now-obama-%e2%80%93-who-the-bleep-does-netanyahu-think-he-is/#comment-61145</link>
		<dc:creator>Mulga Mumblebrain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Dec 2009 07:48:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is amazing what the Chosen People can manage with a mere several billion a year from the US tax-payer and the billions more channelled to the terror state as proceeds from gun-running, blood diamond trade, trafficking in human beings and transplant organs and global financial malfeasance, is it not Sid Vicious? But, Mr Vicious, you forgot to mention those other sewage miracles that the Herrenvolk have visited on the Palestinians. The dumping o fsewage from the illegal settler infestations is well documented, as is the bombing of sewage treatment works in Gaza and Lebanon, and the refusal to allow essential material for their repair into Gaza. But, of course, for racists as cruel and arrogant as the Zionazis, this is simply amusing, isn&#039;t it, Vicious?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is amazing what the Chosen People can manage with a mere several billion a year from the US tax-payer and the billions more channelled to the terror state as proceeds from gun-running, blood diamond trade, trafficking in human beings and transplant organs and global financial malfeasance, is it not Sid Vicious? But, Mr Vicious, you forgot to mention those other sewage miracles that the Herrenvolk have visited on the Palestinians. The dumping o fsewage from the illegal settler infestations is well documented, as is the bombing of sewage treatment works in Gaza and Lebanon, and the refusal to allow essential material for their repair into Gaza. But, of course, for racists as cruel and arrogant as the Zionazis, this is simply amusing, isn&#8217;t it, Vicious?</p>
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		<title>By: B99</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/11/president-clinton-and-now-obama-%e2%80%93-who-the-bleep-does-netanyahu-think-he-is/#comment-61124</link>
		<dc:creator>B99</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Dec 2009 02:36:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Time for another history lesson:

One aspect of the Nuremberg Laws was that from September 1935 on - only two flags were permitted to be flown in Nazi Germany - the Swastika and the blue and white Zionist banner. Thus Zionism became the only other legal party in the Third Reich.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Time for another history lesson:</p>
<p>One aspect of the Nuremberg Laws was that from September 1935 on &#8211; only two flags were permitted to be flown in Nazi Germany &#8211; the Swastika and the blue and white Zionist banner. Thus Zionism became the only other legal party in the Third Reich.</p>
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		<title>By: deceschi</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/11/president-clinton-and-now-obama-%e2%80%93-who-the-bleep-does-netanyahu-think-he-is/#comment-61057</link>
		<dc:creator>deceschi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Dec 2009 15:23:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I thought there were good Jews and bad Jews for you ... So what now exactly THE &quot;Jews can&#039;t get right&quot;, the fact there are people like you who can&#039;t even discerne the true from the false? 

Nothing to do with arrogance or machism, but what the hell shall we discuss when your moral and political stance is - because of a false tendentious interpretation of the history and modern times  -  axiomatic and self-righteous beyond any possible post-illuminist dialectic? What shall we discuss about if your belief and intellectual horizon doesn&#039;t go beyond the narrow conceptualism of the 67-borderline, as if this line was a even pale garantee for peace. It&#039;s not just odd, it&#039;s upsidedown99 (hopefully it hurts less).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I thought there were good Jews and bad Jews for you &#8230; So what now exactly THE &#8220;Jews can&#8217;t get right&#8221;, the fact there are people like you who can&#8217;t even discerne the true from the false? </p>
<p>Nothing to do with arrogance or machism, but what the hell shall we discuss when your moral and political stance is &#8211; because of a false tendentious interpretation of the history and modern times  &#8211;  axiomatic and self-righteous beyond any possible post-illuminist dialectic? What shall we discuss about if your belief and intellectual horizon doesn&#8217;t go beyond the narrow conceptualism of the 67-borderline, as if this line was a even pale garantee for peace. It&#8217;s not just odd, it&#8217;s upsidedown99 (hopefully it hurts less).</p>
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		<title>By: b99</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/11/president-clinton-and-now-obama-%e2%80%93-who-the-bleep-does-netanyahu-think-he-is/#comment-61049</link>
		<dc:creator>b99</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Dec 2009 13:55:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, I think the old Jew hit the nail on the head.  That as why the Israeli had to be created out of whole cloth - characterized by the muscular and arrogant Gush Emunim settler with rifle dangling before him. So now the old Arab scurries around like the old Jew used to.  I can understand how that has macho appeal for guys like you, but such arrogance will not likely go unpunished for too long.  But always the caricature - the Jews just can&#039;t get it right.  If only you had kept to your own country.

In any case, the level of discourse here doesn&#039;t even begin to equate the level of anger - and your level of hurt at the name calling doesn&#039;t even begin to approach the crimes against humanity that you endorse.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, I think the old Jew hit the nail on the head.  That as why the Israeli had to be created out of whole cloth &#8211; characterized by the muscular and arrogant Gush Emunim settler with rifle dangling before him. So now the old Arab scurries around like the old Jew used to.  I can understand how that has macho appeal for guys like you, but such arrogance will not likely go unpunished for too long.  But always the caricature &#8211; the Jews just can&#8217;t get it right.  If only you had kept to your own country.</p>
<p>In any case, the level of discourse here doesn&#8217;t even begin to equate the level of anger &#8211; and your level of hurt at the name calling doesn&#8217;t even begin to approach the crimes against humanity that you endorse.</p>
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		<title>By: deceschi</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/11/president-clinton-and-now-obama-%e2%80%93-who-the-bleep-does-netanyahu-think-he-is/#comment-61046</link>
		<dc:creator>deceschi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Dec 2009 13:16:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;am assimilated and enlightened, thus neither Dhimmi nor Dummy, as the Israel bashing mainstream from East and West pretty unpolitely seems to expect from me to be passable (but for how long?...). 
Sorry, look for your own caricatural Court Jews.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;am assimilated and enlightened, thus neither Dhimmi nor Dummy, as the Israel bashing mainstream from East and West pretty unpolitely seems to expect from me to be passable (but for how long?&#8230;).<br />
Sorry, look for your own caricatural Court Jews.</p>
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		<title>By: B99</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/11/president-clinton-and-now-obama-%e2%80%93-who-the-bleep-does-netanyahu-think-he-is/#comment-61007</link>
		<dc:creator>B99</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Dec 2009 00:04:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And so what - Israel can commit ethnic cleansing and steal another&#039;s land on a daily basis - and do it with my money, and you guys can lie about it - and then we should talk politely?  Fuck that.  Deal with a little verbal abuse - you still get to keep your country.  Men have learned to deal with verbal abuse from feminists, whites from blacks, and each gets to maintain his privileged position.  So buck up.  

&#039;Caricature&#039; - That&#039;s how a Jew of the 19th century described the condition of pre-Enlightenment East European Jewry.  The unassimilated Jew.  He was making the case for why the Jew was hated.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And so what &#8211; Israel can commit ethnic cleansing and steal another&#8217;s land on a daily basis &#8211; and do it with my money, and you guys can lie about it &#8211; and then we should talk politely?  Fuck that.  Deal with a little verbal abuse &#8211; you still get to keep your country.  Men have learned to deal with verbal abuse from feminists, whites from blacks, and each gets to maintain his privileged position.  So buck up.  </p>
<p>&#8216;Caricature&#8217; &#8211; That&#8217;s how a Jew of the 19th century described the condition of pre-Enlightenment East European Jewry.  The unassimilated Jew.  He was making the case for why the Jew was hated.</p>
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		<title>By: deceschi</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/11/president-clinton-and-now-obama-%e2%80%93-who-the-bleep-does-netanyahu-think-he-is/#comment-61001</link>
		<dc:creator>deceschi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Dec 2009 23:41:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But - in your criticism of Israel you and your so many of your DV-buddies use tipical (postmodern) anti-Semitic wordings. Shall I remind you a couple of examples? 
But above all: how is it that you come to this, folks?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But &#8211; in your criticism of Israel you and your so many of your DV-buddies use tipical (postmodern) anti-Semitic wordings. Shall I remind you a couple of examples?<br />
But above all: how is it that you come to this, folks?</p>
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		<title>By: sid wright</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/11/president-clinton-and-now-obama-%e2%80%93-who-the-bleep-does-netanyahu-think-he-is/#comment-60997</link>
		<dc:creator>sid wright</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Dec 2009 23:08:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>b99  The assimilated Jew is the happy Jew.
you may be happy but very soon the assimilated jew becomes the non jew
just because you don&#039;t want to be jewish i.e a practising jew doesn&#039;t give you the right to try and stop other jews practising
you really have some real hang ups
don&#039;t forget once a jew always a jew
the anti-semites will still try to get you in the end</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>b99  The assimilated Jew is the happy Jew.<br />
you may be happy but very soon the assimilated jew becomes the non jew<br />
just because you don&#8217;t want to be jewish i.e a practising jew doesn&#8217;t give you the right to try and stop other jews practising<br />
you really have some real hang ups<br />
don&#8217;t forget once a jew always a jew<br />
the anti-semites will still try to get you in the end</p>
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