The new democratic party [NDP] had been established by canadian socialists. I do not know anything about its history; so i can’t say what effects grassroot had in its establishment.
With time it became so strong that it formed socialist gov’ts in, i think, at least 5 provinces.
NDP was instrumental in obtaining healthcare for all of us. Federally, however, we represent ab 20% of the parliament. Not enough to have prevented sending troops to afgh’n.
Of course, it does matter how and where a grass roots start a party that wld at least ask for healthcare for all; right to be informed [without that right, not much good can be expected], etc.
Such orgs can easily be infiltrated and destroyed in just days! tnx

Good point bozh. Nothing in the constitutional saying the govt has to heed the will of the people. Given fact that despite polls showing support for matters such as ending the war and enacting single payer, Congress and the President continue to legislate the exact opposite, I doubt millions protesting in the street would make a difference. I’d like to think that it would, but these days I’m not so sure. The only thing these politicians heed is being voted out of office and as they via their media stooges keep the public ignorant and in a haze, they don’t have to worry about too many losses at the ballot box. Plus, if they lose, they can always come back as lobbyists and exact the same amount of influence.

The only way to get any effective “peace” movement is to reinstate the draft. When the threat of becoming roadside bomb fodder becomes a possibility for someone other than just the poor and working classes, we’ll see a crap load of potential draftees and their families come out of the woodwork. Yes, many of them will have connections to stay off the front lines but not all of them.

Only an opposing political party wld be able, if elected, to appoint own judges that wld come up with different interpretations than the judges appointed by one party.
Constitution may remain the same but being an interpretative document any given of its utterances can be interpreted differently by different judges.

Judges that respect-value all americans equally, wld surely come up with an interpretation that wld differ from that of judges appointed by either of the two wings of one party and which serves mostly rich and very rich americans.

One constitution, one interpretation by one party, one party means more warfare and more misery for working classes.
Few lands have only one party system. It is any wonder that the middle and higher classes support the one party system that much?
Countries that have two or more parties treats its low classes much better than US governance.
In US better treatment of people in other lands is known as “geting s’mthing for nothing”.
No protest will change the governance in US; only a viable political party can do that. tnx

I got an e-mail the other day from someone I argued with before the election about this shit. He was an Obamabot during the campaign. He bought the Obama marketing slogans completely. I repeatedly stressed Obama’s Bush regime-enabling voting record from the senate but Obama’s voting record meant zero to this guy. In his e-mail he was not cheer leading for his “savior” Obama, which is new for him. He did however write the typical Dem kool-aid Obamabot spew: that stuff about the Republicans are much worse than Obama and most of the Dems. Oh give it a fuking rest! They are all scum, except for Kucinich and maybe 1-2 others. Both teams are paid by the same corporate people. Both teams work for the military industrial complex, they are both for the USA Patriot Act, torture, rendition, illegal spying, war and occupation and they are both for becoming as wealthy as possible at the expense of you and me. Check this out:

Google: 237 millionaires in congress.
The article is on http://www.politico dot com

I said to this guy in the e-mail, well I can’t stand either D or R but if the Repugs were much worse why is that your beloved Dem-controlled White House and Dem-controlled congress continue the Cheney/Bush agenda (as I and others said Obama and the Ds would do)? Hmmmmmmm? The only “changes” have been some window-dressing stuff to pacify some of the sheep.

The Dem kool-aid drinkers want so hard to believe that their beloved Dems are supposedly better than the other “team.” They have been brainwashed to believe that simplistic mentality.

Then he wrote this spew: “we have to push them and force them to do the right thing.” I said to him: well again, if your Dems are supposedly better than the Repugs as you previously claimed, they wouldn’t need to be pushed or forced to do anything. They would do what “you/we” want them to do **all on their own** because they would know that is the correct, fair and just thing to do and they would want to do that as part of their job as working for We The People and because they are our employees. I would remind you that people have been “pushing them” since 2000 with e-mails, phone calls, faxes, letters, sit-ins, petitions, national and international protest in the streets and you see the state of things, don’t you? THEY DON’T CARE WHAT WE THINK. PERIOD. You haven’t figured that out YET? The so-called Dems are not going to be forced to change because they don’t work for you or me. They don’t take their orders from us. How do you think 237 members of congress became millionaires? You still haven’t figured that out yet either? Man, some people are thick. How much more evidence do you need to see to confirm what I’ve said?….assuming you want to see it, that is. Therein, probably, lies your problem, as it did during the campaign. You and others refuse to see it because you don’t want to.

P.S. And I am reminded that many D and R voters (suckers) actually send $$$$$$$$$$ to these millionaire war criminals in congress for their campaigns. Why would anyone send $$$$$$$$$$$ to a millionaire? Duh. How stupid is THAT! It’s often people who are living on a limited income who send $$$$$$$$$$$$ to these millionaire trash in congress. Incredible. How naive, gullible and stupid is THAT! And that goes a long way to explain why we are where we are today.