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		<title>By: Shabnam</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/11/iran-began-preparing-for-u-s-bombing-in-2002/#comment-59807</link>
		<dc:creator>Shabnam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 02:08:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>CYRUS SAFDARI WRITES:


Salvaging the Iran Nuclear Fuel Deal:
Accept Iran&#039;s Counter-offer
 

So the Iranians have -- quite rightly, IMHO -- refused the nuclear deal according to which they were to ship out their low-enriched uranium to countries that have regularly cheated on every single nuclear contract with Iran, and then sit on their hands, hoping that one day the stuff will be eventually returned in the form of nuclear fuel for a medical research reactor.  The Iranians would have been utterly stupid to have accepted such an arrangement, because of course there was no guarantee at all that Iran would ever get any reactor fuel out of it -- just as Iran has not received an ounce of enriched uranium from the French enrichment facility in which it invested a billion of dollars.

When the Iranians didn&#039;t accept this arrangement, the opponents of the deal in the West (who naturally don&#039;t want to see any peaceful resolution of the standoff with Iran) were naturally quick to declare the negotiations at an end and Obama&#039;s approach to Iran as a failure.

But it wasn&#039;t.  Iran has made a logical counter-offer: it offered to ship out its enriched uranium for a SIMULTANEOUS exchange of nuclear reactor fuel for their low-enriched uranium.

The proponents of the deal in the West said that the original offer was a good deal because it amounted to a de facto recognition of Iran&#039;s right to enrich uranium (is it?) whilst also removing the low-enriched uranium that &quot;could be&quot; used to make bombs.

The Iranian counter-offer still provides the same benefits to both sides, and should therefore be accepted by the West . . . if they were negotiating in good faith to start with.  Which they weren&#039;t.  They never planned on returning Iran&#039;s uranium in the form of nuclear fuel, and that&#039;s why THEY WON&#039;T EVEN CONSIDER IRAN&#039;S COUNTER-OFFER? 
OBAMA SHOULD FOLLOW THE INTEREST ORF AMERICANS NOT
THE ZIONIST&#039;S INTEREST.    HE MUST STOP BEING A ZIONIST PUPPET AT ONCE.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>CYRUS SAFDARI WRITES:</p>
<p>Salvaging the Iran Nuclear Fuel Deal:<br />
Accept Iran&#8217;s Counter-offer</p>
<p>So the Iranians have &#8212; quite rightly, IMHO &#8212; refused the nuclear deal according to which they were to ship out their low-enriched uranium to countries that have regularly cheated on every single nuclear contract with Iran, and then sit on their hands, hoping that one day the stuff will be eventually returned in the form of nuclear fuel for a medical research reactor.  The Iranians would have been utterly stupid to have accepted such an arrangement, because of course there was no guarantee at all that Iran would ever get any reactor fuel out of it &#8212; just as Iran has not received an ounce of enriched uranium from the French enrichment facility in which it invested a billion of dollars.</p>
<p>When the Iranians didn&#8217;t accept this arrangement, the opponents of the deal in the West (who naturally don&#8217;t want to see any peaceful resolution of the standoff with Iran) were naturally quick to declare the negotiations at an end and Obama&#8217;s approach to Iran as a failure.</p>
<p>But it wasn&#8217;t.  Iran has made a logical counter-offer: it offered to ship out its enriched uranium for a SIMULTANEOUS exchange of nuclear reactor fuel for their low-enriched uranium.</p>
<p>The proponents of the deal in the West said that the original offer was a good deal because it amounted to a de facto recognition of Iran&#8217;s right to enrich uranium (is it?) whilst also removing the low-enriched uranium that &#8220;could be&#8221; used to make bombs.</p>
<p>The Iranian counter-offer still provides the same benefits to both sides, and should therefore be accepted by the West . . . if they were negotiating in good faith to start with.  Which they weren&#8217;t.  They never planned on returning Iran&#8217;s uranium in the form of nuclear fuel, and that&#8217;s why THEY WON&#8217;T EVEN CONSIDER IRAN&#8217;S COUNTER-OFFER?<br />
OBAMA SHOULD FOLLOW THE INTEREST ORF AMERICANS NOT<br />
THE ZIONIST&#8217;S INTEREST.    HE MUST STOP BEING A ZIONIST PUPPET AT ONCE.</p>
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		<title>By: bozh</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/11/iran-began-preparing-for-u-s-bombing-in-2002/#comment-59746</link>
		<dc:creator>bozh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 15:39:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>glenn,
I often say that the wars are waged by warlords. No, i have never said that any war was waged in name of any philosophy.
But yes in name of rationalizations, such as: greatness of america. infallible constitution, freedoms, security, etc.
Never in name of greed, lust for control; against islamofascism, etc.

As jesus had said, I came to uphold the laws and prophets so does a prez say, I came to uphold the constitution and the laws.
When the warlords say, God bless america, this derives from the bible. And don&#039;t vast number of christians support every US war?
And God bless america means that a prez can do whatever he wants!
I don&#039;t believe, i know that the separation of church and state is a myth and especially when US wages wars.
tnx</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>glenn,<br />
I often say that the wars are waged by warlords. No, i have never said that any war was waged in name of any philosophy.<br />
But yes in name of rationalizations, such as: greatness of america. infallible constitution, freedoms, security, etc.<br />
Never in name of greed, lust for control; against islamofascism, etc.</p>
<p>As jesus had said, I came to uphold the laws and prophets so does a prez say, I came to uphold the constitution and the laws.<br />
When the warlords say, God bless america, this derives from the bible. And don&#8217;t vast number of christians support every US war?<br />
And God bless america means that a prez can do whatever he wants!<br />
I don&#8217;t believe, i know that the separation of church and state is a myth and especially when US wages wars.<br />
tnx</p>
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		<title>By: DavidG.</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/11/iran-began-preparing-for-u-s-bombing-in-2002/#comment-59721</link>
		<dc:creator>DavidG.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 06:40:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;...and not a day goes by without US killing people.&quot;

Bozh, it&#039;s what America does best. It&#039;s why it spends more on its military than most of the rest of the world combined. It&#039;s why it has missile and military bases spread all over the world and roving navies.

Now it&#039;s into attacking countries for their resources.

America is the country the world should most fear and oppose!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;&#8230;and not a day goes by without US killing people.&#8221;</p>
<p>Bozh, it&#8217;s what America does best. It&#8217;s why it spends more on its military than most of the rest of the world combined. It&#8217;s why it has missile and military bases spread all over the world and roving navies.</p>
<p>Now it&#8217;s into attacking countries for their resources.</p>
<p>America is the country the world should most fear and oppose!</p>
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		<title>By: Glenn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Glenn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 00:42:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bozh
I appreciate your many comments, even if I don&#039;t always agree with them. But in this case I see no need to buy into the common religion red herring; ie: &quot;We do this in the name of God&quot;, or whatever. 
I can&#039;t speak for the Torah, but I can&#039;t see how you can assert any wars as being commanded by the bible, and its a large stretch to assert the same of the US Constitution. It seems to me the objectives/lessons/messages of these documents are BETRAYED by war. 

As we all know, wars are initiated by those in power at the time for their own ends, not any philosophy or faith.

As for Iran? Gareths recent reportage has been revealing. It helps in unwinding for us the spin thats being applied to the facts in this matter.
But is anyone here going to hold the media and politicians and office holders to account, or shall we all just talk about it?

So many articles here provoke consternation, or even distress. But where is the active response? (And no, I don&#039;t do anything either - I&#039;m quite comfortable here in my seemingly safe little corner of the world.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bozh<br />
I appreciate your many comments, even if I don&#8217;t always agree with them. But in this case I see no need to buy into the common religion red herring; ie: &#8220;We do this in the name of God&#8221;, or whatever.<br />
I can&#8217;t speak for the Torah, but I can&#8217;t see how you can assert any wars as being commanded by the bible, and its a large stretch to assert the same of the US Constitution. It seems to me the objectives/lessons/messages of these documents are BETRAYED by war. </p>
<p>As we all know, wars are initiated by those in power at the time for their own ends, not any philosophy or faith.</p>
<p>As for Iran? Gareths recent reportage has been revealing. It helps in unwinding for us the spin thats being applied to the facts in this matter.<br />
But is anyone here going to hold the media and politicians and office holders to account, or shall we all just talk about it?</p>
<p>So many articles here provoke consternation, or even distress. But where is the active response? (And no, I don&#8217;t do anything either &#8211; I&#8217;m quite comfortable here in my seemingly safe little corner of the world.)</p>
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		<title>By: bozh</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/11/iran-began-preparing-for-u-s-bombing-in-2002/#comment-59672</link>
		<dc:creator>bozh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 21:07:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kill and let kill, once again US says. Aggression against afgh&#039;n portended aggression against  iraq and this one signifying another aggression.
Isn&#039;t waging a war or wars best cause-justification for at least one more war?
It seems we can expect at least another fifty wars from US/nato.  
 And tho prezes make hundreds of tacit and explicit promises, none had ever promised, nor ever will promise u another war.

And yet US had waged some 180 wars, interventions, battles. But not one was promised.
So what prezes promise doesn&#039;t happen and what they don&#039;t promise does happen and not a day  goes by without US killing people.

All of it commanded by bible, torah, and constitution; the only three holy books that US recognizes. tnx</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kill and let kill, once again US says. Aggression against afgh&#8217;n portended aggression against  iraq and this one signifying another aggression.<br />
Isn&#8217;t waging a war or wars best cause-justification for at least one more war?<br />
It seems we can expect at least another fifty wars from US/nato.<br />
 And tho prezes make hundreds of tacit and explicit promises, none had ever promised, nor ever will promise u another war.</p>
<p>And yet US had waged some 180 wars, interventions, battles. But not one was promised.<br />
So what prezes promise doesn&#8217;t happen and what they don&#8217;t promise does happen and not a day  goes by without US killing people.</p>
<p>All of it commanded by bible, torah, and constitution; the only three holy books that US recognizes. tnx</p>
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