Comments on: In Jon We Trust http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/11/in-jon-we-trust/ a radical newsletter in the struggle for peace and social justice Thu, 08 Dec 2011 15:07:30 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: L. King http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/11/in-jon-we-trust/#comment-60379 L. King Thu, 26 Nov 2009 13:29:39 +0000 http://dissidentvoice.org/?p=11828#comment-60379 Would the right of return apply retroactively? It was agreed to on December 10, 1948. A fair argument is that it would not apply to any refugees created before that point in time. You can't break a law before its passed. Would the right of return apply retroactively? It was agreed to on December 10, 1948. A fair argument is that it would not apply to any refugees created before that point in time.

You can’t break a law before its passed.

]]> By: beverly http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/11/in-jon-we-trust/#comment-59517 beverly Tue, 17 Nov 2009 03:14:28 +0000 http://dissidentvoice.org/?p=11828#comment-59517 I quit watching Stewart and Colbert a couple of years ago. It was painfully obvious that these two alledged hipster bullshit detectors were the usual poser liberals who aren't about to cross too far over the line in calling out the masters and slave dwellers on the Democratic party plantation, NOR, were they going to buck the Israeli Lobby. Are the jokes and barbs on the two shows even funny anymore? Or are Stewart and Colbert like most late night comedians - handling Obama with kid gloves and light weight (non funny) humor for fear of being labelled racist? The late night writers need to read this site along with Counterpunch and Black Agenda Report. They'd find a shitload of stuff to zing Obama (and quite a few other sacred cows) on. I emailed Conan Obrien about the non funny jokes and suggested these sites but of course no response - and no funny jokes either. I quit watching Stewart and Colbert a couple of years ago. It was painfully obvious that these two alledged hipster bullshit detectors were the usual poser liberals who aren’t about to cross too far over the line in calling out the masters and slave dwellers on the Democratic party plantation, NOR, were they going to buck the Israeli Lobby.

Are the jokes and barbs on the two shows even funny anymore? Or are Stewart and Colbert like most late night comedians – handling Obama with kid gloves and light weight (non funny) humor for fear of being labelled racist? The late night writers need to read this site along with Counterpunch and Black Agenda Report. They’d find a shitload of stuff to zing Obama (and quite a few other sacred cows) on. I emailed Conan Obrien about the non funny jokes and suggested these sites but of course no response – and no funny jokes either.

]]> By: Mary http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/11/in-jon-we-trust/#comment-59236 Mary Fri, 13 Nov 2009 10:55:15 +0000 http://dissidentvoice.org/?p=11828#comment-59236 You are stalking me. Well I never. This too for good measure to make your day. Another hate filled man but frustrated fortunately. From Haaretz. Last update - 03:05 13/11/2009 U.S. embassy concerned over possible Kahane memorial in Knesset By Jonathan Lis, Haaretz Correspondent The U.S. embassy asked Knesset Chairman Reuven Rivlin whether he intends to permit Knesset members to hold a ceremony in the plenum in memory of Rabbi Meir Kahane. ... Israeli media reported that MK Michael Ben Ari (National Union) was planning to hold a plenum session in honor of former MK Kahane, around the Hebrew anniversary of the former Kach leader's assassination. These reports sparked American concern... "We are talking about a provocation. The man and his outlawed [extremist] movement cannot be separated. This is an attempt to bring the Kach movement into the Knesset through the back door," said Rivlin. Ben Ari appealed Rivlin's decision, and gained the support of several Knesset members... Ben Ari slammed the American inquiry Thursday. "I was elected by the citizens of the independent state of Israel. Mitchell's gross intervention crosses a red line. Its acceptance amounts to a genuflection by the chairman of the Knesset, which is supposed to be [a] sovereign [entity]. "The weakness broadcast by Rivlin has turned the Knesset into a doormat. It's amazing to see how American government officials are trying to get involved in the daily workings of the Knesset," he said. Ben Ari had planned to fly to the U.S. on business Thursday, but remained in Israel after the U.S. Embassy refused to issue him a visa. You are stalking me. Well I never. This too for good measure to make your day. Another hate filled man but frustrated fortunately. From Haaretz.
Last update – 03:05 13/11/2009

U.S. embassy concerned over possible Kahane memorial in Knesset
By Jonathan Lis, Haaretz Correspondent

The U.S. embassy asked Knesset Chairman Reuven Rivlin whether he intends to permit Knesset members to hold a ceremony in the plenum in memory of Rabbi Meir Kahane. …

Israeli media reported that MK Michael Ben Ari (National Union) was planning to hold a plenum session in honor of former MK Kahane, around the Hebrew anniversary of the former Kach leader’s assassination.

These reports sparked American concern…

“We are talking about a provocation. The man and his outlawed [extremist] movement cannot be separated. This is an attempt to bring the Kach movement into the Knesset through the back door,” said Rivlin.

Ben Ari appealed Rivlin’s decision, and gained the support of several Knesset members…
Ben Ari slammed the American inquiry Thursday.

“I was elected by the citizens of the independent state of Israel. Mitchell’s gross intervention crosses a red line. Its acceptance amounts to a genuflection by the chairman of the Knesset, which is supposed to be [a] sovereign [entity].

“The weakness broadcast by Rivlin has turned the Knesset into a doormat. It’s amazing to see how American government officials are trying to get involved in the daily workings of the Knesset,” he said.

Ben Ari had planned to fly to the U.S. on business Thursday, but remained in Israel after the U.S. Embassy refused to issue him a visa.

]]> By: mebosa ritchie http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/11/in-jon-we-trust/#comment-59235 mebosa ritchie Fri, 13 Nov 2009 10:36:51 +0000 http://dissidentvoice.org/?p=11828#comment-59235 mary, you seem to have missed this a chance for you to weep good to see the boycott campaign working The high-profile government and business delegation to Brazil, led by President Shimon Peres, is concluding its visit with two new agreements and ratification of a region-wide free trade agreement with Israel... Once fully implemented, the Israel-Mercosur FTA, already ratified by Uruguay and Paraguay, will have tremendous economic impact. Currently, Mercosur is seen to represent approximately 270 million people and a combined GDP of three trillion U.S. dollars. The FTA will gradually eliminate tariffs on 90 percent of the trade between Israel and Mercosur states, which totalled about two billion U.S. dollars in 2008. The decision to ratify the FTA at this time was made in honor of the state visit of President Peres to the South American country. This vote rejected a recommendation by the Brazilian Parliamentary Commission on Foreign Relations and National Defense against ratification of the FTA until Israel accepted the establishment of a new Arab state in Judea and Samaria. The ratification has one more stage, at the Senate level of the Brazilian National Congress. Argentina has yet to ratify the FTA with Israel, making it the only remaining member of Mercosur not to have done so. President Peres is due to visit Argentina on Sunday. mary, you seem to have missed this
a chance for you to weep
good to see the boycott campaign working

The high-profile government and business delegation to Brazil, led by President Shimon Peres, is concluding its visit with two new agreements and ratification of a region-wide free trade agreement with Israel…

Once fully implemented, the Israel-Mercosur FTA, already ratified by Uruguay and Paraguay, will have tremendous economic impact. Currently, Mercosur is seen to represent approximately 270 million people and a combined GDP of three trillion U.S. dollars. The FTA will gradually eliminate tariffs on 90 percent of the trade between Israel and Mercosur states, which totalled about two billion U.S. dollars in 2008.

The decision to ratify the FTA at this time was made in honor of the state visit of President Peres to the South American country. This vote rejected a recommendation by the Brazilian Parliamentary Commission on Foreign Relations and National Defense against ratification of the FTA until Israel accepted the establishment of a new Arab state in Judea and Samaria. The ratification has one more stage, at the Senate level of the Brazilian National Congress.

Argentina has yet to ratify the FTA with Israel, making it the only remaining member of Mercosur not to have done so. President Peres is due to visit Argentina on Sunday.

]]> By: Mary http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/11/in-jon-we-trust/#comment-59204 Mary Thu, 12 Nov 2009 23:22:19 +0000 http://dissidentvoice.org/?p=11828#comment-59204 Très bon. The boycott is growing. Israel must be getting rather worried. Ma’an News Agency 12/11/2009 French union joins Israel boycott Bethlehem – A French labor union decided to join the international movement to apply Boycotts, Divestment, and Sanctions (BDS) on Israel, a statement from the National Work Confederation (Confédération Nationale du Travail - CNT) said Wednesday. “The commitment of the CNT to support the Palestinian people over many years has led us naturally to join this vital campaign to end the exploitation and occupation by Israel,” the document said. The international secretary of the union said it would also invite each of its constituent members to join the BDS campaign and participate in its activities. “Our joining this Boycott, Disinvestment and Sanctions campaign is coherent with our solidarity with Palestine, defined by our statement of support of the Palestinian people’s struggle, adopted by the CNT during its 2006 congress. This statement is the expression of the anti-colonial and internationalist principles of our union,” the statement continued. “It confirms our opposition to all forms of colonization and occupation as well as our solidarity with the oppressed against the oppressor,” the organization also said. “As it was done in the case of South Africa, this initiative aims at weighing through economic means and the media on the state of Israel until the unpunished oppression of the Palestinian people and the denial of their fundamental rights end,” the statement said. CNT describes itself as “an anti-capitalist internationalist union involved in social class struggles.” Originally launched with an appeal from 170 Palestinian civil society groups, the boycott campaign has been gaining momentum, especially since Israel’s war on the Gaza Strip last winter which left more than 1,400 Palestinians dead. In February, South African dock workers refused to offload cargo from Israeli ships in an expression of solidarity with Palestinians. http://www.maannews.net/eng/ViewDetails.aspx?ID=239036 Très bon. The boycott is growing. Israel must be getting rather worried.

Ma’an News Agency 12/11/2009

French union joins Israel boycott

Bethlehem – A French labor union decided to join the international movement to apply Boycotts, Divestment, and Sanctions (BDS) on Israel, a statement from the National Work Confederation (Confédération Nationale du Travail – CNT) said Wednesday.

“The commitment of the CNT to support the Palestinian people over many years has led us naturally to join this vital campaign to end the exploitation and occupation by Israel,” the document said.

The international secretary of the union said it would also invite each of its constituent members to join the BDS campaign and participate in its activities.

“Our joining this Boycott, Disinvestment and Sanctions campaign is coherent with our solidarity with Palestine, defined by our statement of support of the Palestinian people’s struggle, adopted by the CNT during its 2006 congress. This statement is the expression of the anti-colonial and internationalist principles of our union,” the statement continued.

“It confirms our opposition to all forms of colonization and occupation as well as our solidarity with the oppressed against the oppressor,” the organization also said.

“As it was done in the case of South Africa, this initiative aims at weighing through economic means and the media on the state of Israel until the unpunished oppression of the Palestinian people and the denial of their fundamental rights end,” the statement said.

CNT describes itself as “an anti-capitalist internationalist union involved in social class struggles.”

Originally launched with an appeal from 170 Palestinian civil society groups, the boycott campaign has been gaining momentum, especially since Israel’s war on the Gaza Strip last winter which left more than 1,400 Palestinians dead.

In February, South African dock workers refused to offload cargo from Israeli ships in an expression of solidarity with Palestinians.

http://www.maannews.net/eng/ViewDetails.aspx?ID=239036

]]> By: B99 http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/11/in-jon-we-trust/#comment-59143 B99 Thu, 12 Nov 2009 02:52:28 +0000 http://dissidentvoice.org/?p=11828#comment-59143 You guessed wrong Sibyl (how we spell it in America). Israel is the ONLY country in the world that illegally occupies another's land - AND holds it under race-based Apartheid rule. It's no wonder that other nations 'pass judgment on Israel' - the 'let's pretend we are like Europe' country. You guessed wrong Sibyl (how we spell it in America). Israel is the ONLY country in the world that illegally occupies another’s land – AND holds it under race-based Apartheid rule. It’s no wonder that other nations ‘pass judgment on Israel’ – the ‘let’s pretend we are like Europe’ country.

]]> By: sybil e bondi http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/11/in-jon-we-trust/#comment-59141 sybil e bondi Thu, 12 Nov 2009 02:38:48 +0000 http://dissidentvoice.org/?p=11828#comment-59141 well,the answer must be iran which has just held a fair democratic election,returning the very popular ahmedinejad to power with countrywide approval. lybia is spelt lybia in italy well,the answer must be iran which has just held a fair democratic election,returning the very popular ahmedinejad to power with countrywide approval.
lybia is spelt lybia in italy

]]> By: B99 http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/11/in-jon-we-trust/#comment-59134 B99 Thu, 12 Nov 2009 00:19:29 +0000 http://dissidentvoice.org/?p=11828#comment-59134 What to hell is Calvinball? What are you, 11 years old? I'm talking about the same Geneva Conventions Law that was bandied about to make sure the Kosovar refugees could return home. Bill Clinton trumpeted it. Almost everyone but the Serbs (and Ruskies) got on board. Of course, Israel was not so strangely silent about the matter. So, if you don't believe in such a law, then I suppose you won't complain if someone moves the Israelis out, no? Sybil - Here's a list for you. Iran, Sudan, Libya(spelled correctly), Israel, Saudi Arabia. Which one pretends to be a full-fledged democracy while operating a race-based Apartheid regime in another people's land? I'll narrow it down for you - to two: It starts with 'I.' What to hell is Calvinball? What are you, 11 years old? I’m talking about the same Geneva Conventions Law that was bandied about to make sure the Kosovar refugees could return home. Bill Clinton trumpeted it. Almost everyone but the Serbs (and Ruskies) got on board. Of course, Israel was not so strangely silent about the matter. So, if you don’t believe in such a law, then I suppose you won’t complain if someone moves the Israelis out, no?

Sybil – Here’s a list for you. Iran, Sudan, Libya(spelled correctly), Israel, Saudi Arabia. Which one pretends to be a full-fledged democracy while operating a race-based Apartheid regime in another people’s land? I’ll narrow it down for you – to two: It starts with ‘I.’

]]> By: sybil e bondi http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/11/in-jon-we-trust/#comment-59131 sybil e bondi Thu, 12 Nov 2009 00:07:00 +0000 http://dissidentvoice.org/?p=11828#comment-59131 the law according to civilised countries like iran,sudan,lybia,saudi arabia who all pass judgement on israel the law according to civilised countries like iran,sudan,lybia,saudi arabia who all pass judgement on israel

]]> By: Omri http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/11/in-jon-we-trust/#comment-59128 Omri Wed, 11 Nov 2009 23:39:04 +0000 http://dissidentvoice.org/?p=11828#comment-59128 "It's the LAW" you say. What law? You morons trot out "international law" like it's a game of Calvinball and you're Calvin. “It’s the LAW” you say.

What law? You morons trot out “international law” like it’s a game of Calvinball and you’re Calvin.

]]> By: B99 http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/11/in-jon-we-trust/#comment-59124 B99 Wed, 11 Nov 2009 23:15:49 +0000 http://dissidentvoice.org/?p=11828#comment-59124 The right of return applies to the Biharis in Bangladesh, the Hindus and Muslims who crossed over during the partition of 1947, the Sudettenland Germans, Anatolian Greeks, Ionian Turks, and millions of others, including Azeris - the only exception being those groups that were not coerced. Yes, the right of return belongs to ALL! - Its the LAW - and that's a fact! The right of return applies to the Biharis in Bangladesh, the Hindus and Muslims who crossed over during the partition of 1947, the Sudettenland Germans, Anatolian Greeks, Ionian Turks, and millions of others, including Azeris – the only exception being those groups that were not coerced. Yes, the right of return belongs to ALL! – Its the LAW – and that’s a fact!

]]> By: Omri http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/11/in-jon-we-trust/#comment-59122 Omri Wed, 11 Nov 2009 23:04:53 +0000 http://dissidentvoice.org/?p=11828#comment-59122 B99, if the right to return is international law, then perhaps you should inform the Biharis in Bangladesh, the Hindus and Muslims who crossed over during the partition of 1947, the Sudettenland Germans, Anatolian Greeks, Ionian Turks, and millions of others who decidedly do NOT have the right to return right now. Throw in the Azeris of Nagorno Karbakh,. The way you antiZionists can say something so patently in opposition of the facts and common sense, never ceases to amaze me. International law.. Right.... B99, if the right to return is international law, then perhaps you should inform the Biharis in Bangladesh, the Hindus and Muslims who crossed over during the partition of 1947, the Sudettenland Germans, Anatolian Greeks, Ionian Turks, and millions of others who decidedly do NOT have the right to return right now. Throw in the Azeris of Nagorno Karbakh,.

The way you antiZionists can say something so patently in opposition of the facts and common sense, never ceases to amaze me. International law.. Right….

]]> By: B99 http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/11/in-jon-we-trust/#comment-59115 B99 Wed, 11 Nov 2009 21:56:56 +0000 http://dissidentvoice.org/?p=11828#comment-59115 But you forget, Sid, that the right of return is international law. It's not as if this is opinion or a wild hypothesis - IT'S THE LAW. Now, if Palestinian refugees want to remain in Jordan, or Lebanon, etc., then they are entitled only to compensation from Israel for their eviction by the Jews. But first you need to admit to that history - doing so will make the *rightness* of the right of return real for you. Once it is understood by all that no one has a right to a racially pure state then you can welcome back the native natural people of Palestine with open arms. What d'ya think Sidney?! BTW - Arabs from Morocco to Iraq are brothers (and sisters) the way Latinos are from Mexico to Argentina. In other words, they are not interchangeable parts. But you forget, Sid, that the right of return is international law. It’s not as if this is opinion or a wild hypothesis – IT’S THE LAW. Now, if Palestinian refugees want to remain in Jordan, or Lebanon, etc., then they are entitled only to compensation from Israel for their eviction by the Jews. But first you need to admit to that history – doing so will make the *rightness* of the right of return real for you. Once it is understood by all that no one has a right to a racially pure state then you can welcome back the native natural people of Palestine with open arms. What d’ya think Sidney?!

BTW – Arabs from Morocco to Iraq are brothers (and sisters) the way Latinos are from Mexico to Argentina. In other words, they are not interchangeable parts.

]]> By: kalidas http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/11/in-jon-we-trust/#comment-59110 kalidas Wed, 11 Nov 2009 21:25:04 +0000 http://dissidentvoice.org/?p=11828#comment-59110 What's good for the goose, eh sid.. Are you listening, New York? What’s good for the goose, eh sid..
Are you listening, New York?

]]> By: sid wright http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/11/in-jon-we-trust/#comment-59099 sid wright Wed, 11 Nov 2009 20:27:07 +0000 http://dissidentvoice.org/?p=11828#comment-59099 good to hear from you b99. you know so much about everything including being an expert on judaism.i get the impression you are also scared of little israel. i am glad you feel the palestinians should have their own home. i agree with you. and which country in the middle east currently has a 70% majority of its citizens who are palestinians. i am sure you will agree with me that the remaining palestinians who are not in this country should rejoin their bretheren who make up 70% of the population. after all all arab muslims are brothers and they get on so well together. surely they don't want to live in a jewish state. let's help them all move to jordan,the palestinian state good to hear from you b99. you know so much about everything including being an expert on judaism.i get the impression you are also scared of little israel.
i am glad you feel the palestinians should have their own home. i agree with you. and which country in the middle east currently has a 70% majority of its citizens who are palestinians.
i am sure you will agree with me that the remaining palestinians who are not in this country should rejoin their bretheren who make up 70% of the population.
after all all arab muslims are brothers and they get on so well together.
surely they don’t want to live in a jewish state.
let’s help them all move to jordan,the palestinian state

]]> By: And where is Democracy Now and Amy Goodman on this information?: http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/11/in-jon-we-trust/#comment-59096 And where is Democracy Now and Amy Goodman on this information?: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 20:13:52 +0000 http://dissidentvoice.org/?p=11828#comment-59096 "And why have most leftists never heard of “The Clean Break Paper” of 1996?" “And why have most leftists never heard of “The Clean Break Paper” of 1996?”

]]> By: B99 http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/11/in-jon-we-trust/#comment-59094 B99 Wed, 11 Nov 2009 19:42:01 +0000 http://dissidentvoice.org/?p=11828#comment-59094 Sid - Speaking of (your) exaggerating, Israel is nearly 8 times the size of Rhode Island - that is, it is slightly larger than Massachusetts. It holds captive millions of Palestinians in a land about the size of Delaware. And it has more than 200 nuclear warheads, has not signed the nuclear non-proliferation treaty, and does not agree to a 'no first use' policy on atomic bombs. Further, it has as its allies, several million well-placed Israel-Firsters in the US who do its bidding. This is a group that will defend its right to persecute other national groups, take their land, and call it God's will or their just due for the Holocaust. It's a sickness this Zionism, admittedly to a great degree a legacy of history of anti-Semitism in Europe, but sick patients must be sequestered for the common good. The least you could do is go back to Israel - and leave the Palestinians alone. Zionism should not be equated with Judaism. To the extent that it has a relationship with Judaism at all - it is an import into the religion. After all, where was this basic concept BEFORE the Jews left Canaan? Political Zionism is a creation of secular atheist Jews - not believers in Judaism. Those who truly believed they should worship in the place of their spiritual 'ancestors' immigrated to Palestine in the nineteenth century - and did so without the notion of establishing a race-based exclusionary expansionist state. Zionism is a creation of Jewry - not Judaism. Sid – Speaking of (your) exaggerating, Israel is nearly 8 times the size of Rhode Island – that is, it is slightly larger than Massachusetts. It holds captive millions of Palestinians in a land about the size of Delaware. And it has more than 200 nuclear warheads, has not signed the nuclear non-proliferation treaty, and does not agree to a ‘no first use’ policy on atomic bombs. Further, it has as its allies, several million well-placed Israel-Firsters in the US who do its bidding. This is a group that will defend its right to persecute other national groups, take their land, and call it God’s will or their just due for the Holocaust. It’s a sickness this Zionism, admittedly to a great degree a legacy of history of anti-Semitism in Europe, but sick patients must be sequestered for the common good. The least you could do is go back to Israel – and leave the Palestinians alone.
Zionism should not be equated with Judaism. To the extent that it has a relationship with Judaism at all – it is an import into the religion. After all, where was this basic concept BEFORE the Jews left Canaan? Political Zionism is a creation of secular atheist Jews – not believers in Judaism. Those who truly believed they should worship in the place of their spiritual ‘ancestors’ immigrated to Palestine in the nineteenth century – and did so without the notion of establishing a race-based exclusionary expansionist state. Zionism is a creation of Jewry – not Judaism.

]]> By: sid wright http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/11/in-jon-we-trust/#comment-59091 sid wright Wed, 11 Nov 2009 18:59:41 +0000 http://dissidentvoice.org/?p=11828#comment-59091 shabnam--jews pray 3 times a day for a return to zion i e zionism. zionism is an integral part of judaism. any jew who does not accept zionism does not not accept one of the basic concepts of judaism. stick to islam,shabnam,i assume you know more about your own religion. shabnam–jews pray 3 times a day for a return to zion i e zionism. zionism is an integral part of judaism.
any jew who does not accept zionism does not not accept one of the basic concepts of judaism.
stick to islam,shabnam,i assume you know more about your own religion.

]]> By: Shabnam http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/11/in-jon-we-trust/#comment-59087 Shabnam Wed, 11 Nov 2009 18:27:46 +0000 http://dissidentvoice.org/?p=11828#comment-59087 ZIONISM IS AN IDEOLOGY WORSE THAN FASCISM. ZIONISM IS NOT JEUDISM. ONLY LIARS MAKE THAT CONNECTION. ZIONISM IS AN IDEOLOGY WORSE THAN FASCISM. ZIONISM IS NOT JEUDISM. ONLY LIARS MAKE THAT CONNECTION.

]]> By: Shabnam http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/11/in-jon-we-trust/#comment-59085 Shabnam Wed, 11 Nov 2009 17:58:42 +0000 http://dissidentvoice.org/?p=11828#comment-59085 B99 - please note that I wrote: "Zionism MUST BE DESTROYED FULLY AND COMPLETELY before it destroys us all." Anyone with Zionist ideology is dangerous because ALL represent the interest of the same industry functioning in different capacity. Akiva Eldar and other Zionists like him have played important roles in preserving Jewish expansion, but due to Palestinian resistance have come to this realization that in order to save ‘Jewish state’ they have to modify their views. As Akiva Eldar emphasizes, in the second link, Shimon Peres also believes ‘settlements are against Zionist state’s interest’ , yet settlement expansion reached its height during Clinton administration in Washington and Peres and ‘labor party’ in Israel. This does not imply Peres, as a Zionist war criminal, IS NOT BAD after all. Where have been all these ‘GOOD’ ZIONISTS till now? It is obvious that all were helping the Zionist cause either directly or indirectly to spread the propaganda to buy time for Israel to change facts on the ground to steal Palestine and neighboring countries with their resources to establish ‘Greater Israel.’ This project still is being pursued as we speak, but with few ‘disappointed’ Zionists like Akiva Eldar and his associates. B99 – please note that I wrote:
“Zionism MUST BE DESTROYED FULLY AND COMPLETELY before it destroys us all.”

Anyone with Zionist ideology is dangerous because ALL represent the interest of the same industry functioning in different capacity. Akiva Eldar and other Zionists like him have played important roles in preserving Jewish expansion, but due to Palestinian resistance have come to this realization that in order to save ‘Jewish state’ they have to modify their views. As Akiva Eldar emphasizes, in the second link, Shimon Peres also believes ‘settlements are against Zionist state’s interest’ , yet settlement expansion reached its height during Clinton administration in Washington and Peres and ‘labor party’ in Israel. This does not imply Peres, as a Zionist war criminal, IS NOT BAD after all. Where have been all these ‘GOOD’ ZIONISTS till now? It is obvious that all were helping the Zionist cause either directly or indirectly to spread the propaganda to buy time for Israel to change facts on the ground to steal Palestine and neighboring countries with their resources to establish ‘Greater Israel.’ This project still is being pursued as we speak, but with few ‘disappointed’ Zionists like Akiva Eldar and his associates.

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