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		<title>By: Wingnut</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wingnut</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 14:39:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Don!  Yeah, it IS complex.  The thing was invented by a bunch of drunks.  With quotes, parentheses, brackets, the period goes... wherever you think it looks prettiest.  :)

(In other words, good question, and I have no idea about its answer.).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Don!  Yeah, it IS complex.  The thing was invented by a bunch of drunks.  With quotes, parentheses, brackets, the period goes&#8230; wherever you think it looks prettiest.  :)</p>
<p>(In other words, good question, and I have no idea about its answer.).</p>
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		<title>By: Don Hawkins</title>
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		<dc:creator>Don Hawkins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 13:54:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And I said, &quot;crap and trade will to little to slow the problem&quot;, &quot;we need to rethink congressman and women&quot;. 

  How&#039;s that does the period go after the quotation mark am learning.  Seems so complex</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And I said, &#8220;crap and trade will to little to slow the problem&#8221;, &#8220;we need to rethink congressman and women&#8221;. </p>
<p>  How&#8217;s that does the period go after the quotation mark am learning.  Seems so complex</p>
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		<title>By: Wingnut</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wingnut</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 13:27:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don, you say good/wise words, but if you used just a tiny bit more punctuation, my eyes wouldn&#039;t water so much.  :)  

Yes, there&#039;s not much happening in the health care boxing ring, is there?  See, its a cost-reduction deal, and so, to save everyone money, its going to cost money... no matter which of 20 wrong ideas are used.  

The RIGHT idea has not been brought up, and likely won&#039;t be.  That idea is to abolish economies and ownership.  No more money.  No more wages.  No wages needed because... nothing has a monetary price tag.  No monetary price tags needed, because, things can&#039;t be owned... not by private, not by &quot;state&quot;, not by ANYTHING.  Things would be, instead, custodianed... temporarily, like a library book.  Just because everything on the planet or at least in the nation... would be un-ownable, doesn&#039;t mean everyone and anyone can&#039;t be involved in the stewardship and repositories of all Earth items (including each other).  

Being a member of Team Food, or Team Health, or even Team Jetboats... helping ANY of those systems... will get one hell of a good name... and that&#039;s a type of wages (see tribal elders).  We would likely all wear colors and ribbons on our uniforms, indicating which Team World teams we were members/helpers-of.  If you wear the Team Food, Team Nutrition, or Team Health colors on your jump suit, you are a HERO... and treated darned nice by nearly everyone.  Being a member of Team Cocaine is even a reasonably proud position... especially if you teach users about addictions as you produce cocaine.  It would be the same for Team Ice Cream and Team Enjoyments.  You are a semi-hero for wearing the Team Enjoyments colors on your jump suit... as everyone needs SOME enjoyments in their lives, and its a worthy cause.  But in the same breath, we ALL would know that enjoyments are addictive, and thus, all Team Enjoyments folk... also teach about addictions and moderation. 

To equate Team Enjoyments to a portion of the  socialist system used for the USA military survival/supply system, its the folks who stock and maintain the luxuries repositories.  They are called &quot;recreational services&quot; in the military... and allow the checking-out (temp custodianship) of enjoyments...  equally available to all ranks (all good-name levels).  Its much like the USA public library socialism.

The health care problem can&#039;t be fixed, until the RIGHT solution is on the table.  Remove money from it... one end to the other.  And since doctors and employees of health care facilities and suppliers... currently need wages... because price tags are blocking THEIR survival goods-attaining, then we need to remove price tags from the lives of everyone involved in health care.  And if you&#039;re going to remove price tags, advertising, lawsuits, billing, timecarding, all that crap... you&#039;ve solved the problem.  There is no such thing as &quot;poor&quot; if there is no money.  There is only deprived-of-equality.  (likely caused by someone in high places or with big sticks... hoarding wellbeing/enjoyments).  

In New America... monetary discrimination, and &quot;get a job OR ELSE&quot; (join the imperialism or die) would be gone... forever illegal and recognized as immoral, finally.  No more pyramiding, because no more monetary/ownership discrimination.

Wingnut... could you use just a tiny bit LESS punctuation, please?  haha.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don, you say good/wise words, but if you used just a tiny bit more punctuation, my eyes wouldn&#8217;t water so much.  :)  </p>
<p>Yes, there&#8217;s not much happening in the health care boxing ring, is there?  See, its a cost-reduction deal, and so, to save everyone money, its going to cost money&#8230; no matter which of 20 wrong ideas are used.  </p>
<p>The RIGHT idea has not been brought up, and likely won&#8217;t be.  That idea is to abolish economies and ownership.  No more money.  No more wages.  No wages needed because&#8230; nothing has a monetary price tag.  No monetary price tags needed, because, things can&#8217;t be owned&#8230; not by private, not by &#8220;state&#8221;, not by ANYTHING.  Things would be, instead, custodianed&#8230; temporarily, like a library book.  Just because everything on the planet or at least in the nation&#8230; would be un-ownable, doesn&#8217;t mean everyone and anyone can&#8217;t be involved in the stewardship and repositories of all Earth items (including each other).  </p>
<p>Being a member of Team Food, or Team Health, or even Team Jetboats&#8230; helping ANY of those systems&#8230; will get one hell of a good name&#8230; and that&#8217;s a type of wages (see tribal elders).  We would likely all wear colors and ribbons on our uniforms, indicating which Team World teams we were members/helpers-of.  If you wear the Team Food, Team Nutrition, or Team Health colors on your jump suit, you are a HERO&#8230; and treated darned nice by nearly everyone.  Being a member of Team Cocaine is even a reasonably proud position&#8230; especially if you teach users about addictions as you produce cocaine.  It would be the same for Team Ice Cream and Team Enjoyments.  You are a semi-hero for wearing the Team Enjoyments colors on your jump suit&#8230; as everyone needs SOME enjoyments in their lives, and its a worthy cause.  But in the same breath, we ALL would know that enjoyments are addictive, and thus, all Team Enjoyments folk&#8230; also teach about addictions and moderation. </p>
<p>To equate Team Enjoyments to a portion of the  socialist system used for the USA military survival/supply system, its the folks who stock and maintain the luxuries repositories.  They are called &#8220;recreational services&#8221; in the military&#8230; and allow the checking-out (temp custodianship) of enjoyments&#8230;  equally available to all ranks (all good-name levels).  Its much like the USA public library socialism.</p>
<p>The health care problem can&#8217;t be fixed, until the RIGHT solution is on the table.  Remove money from it&#8230; one end to the other.  And since doctors and employees of health care facilities and suppliers&#8230; currently need wages&#8230; because price tags are blocking THEIR survival goods-attaining, then we need to remove price tags from the lives of everyone involved in health care.  And if you&#8217;re going to remove price tags, advertising, lawsuits, billing, timecarding, all that crap&#8230; you&#8217;ve solved the problem.  There is no such thing as &#8220;poor&#8221; if there is no money.  There is only deprived-of-equality.  (likely caused by someone in high places or with big sticks&#8230; hoarding wellbeing/enjoyments).  </p>
<p>In New America&#8230; monetary discrimination, and &#8220;get a job OR ELSE&#8221; (join the imperialism or die) would be gone&#8230; forever illegal and recognized as immoral, finally.  No more pyramiding, because no more monetary/ownership discrimination.</p>
<p>Wingnut&#8230; could you use just a tiny bit LESS punctuation, please?  haha.</p>
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		<title>By: Don Hawkins</title>
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		<dc:creator>Don Hawkins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 09:01:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) said in September that such legislation would probably have to wait until next year, John Bruton, the European Union&#039;s ambassador to the United States, said U.S. action was key to a new global agreement on climate change set to be discussed in December at an international conference in Copenhagen.

&quot;Is the U.S. Senate really expecting all the other countries to make a serious effort on climate change at the Copenhagen conference in the absence of a clear commitment from the United States?&quot; Bruton said.

  At the end of the day like health care what is really happening?  Nothing and at the end of the day the old two party system have dinner together and very sure talk of the little people. Well not at the end of the day but just one more decade the little gang that has decided it&#039;s cool to be a so called leader will be working together alright and as now they will not be making plans for the little people that&#039;s us but themselves as they do now in an attempt to hold on to this out of control system. Oh that&#039;s not true, oh yes it is and they think it&#039;s ok to think this way well sort of as they have to make harder and harder choices they will become even more nut&#039;s than they are now. Again that&#039;s not true well of course it is and here in the States why is cap and trade the best they can do because at the end of the day they still don&#039;t have a soul as they sold that to the system that will take us we the people all of them too and most of the life forms on the Earth rather rare in the known Universe into a very chaotic World as a start and that&#039;s best case scenario.  Why do they do this well it&#039;s better that way because for them to have to live like the rest of us is just out of the question how could they ever go on. The rest of the World is watching us here in the greatest nation on Earth and of course the many who don&#039;t watch us as to find just food and water is what they do at the end of the day as we here in the States stuff our faces looking for love I guess, how much for that ham no not just one piece the whole ham and maybe not love many are looking for but what&#039;s my purpose I mean I have 200 million dollars a very large house the boat the cars and there just seems to be something missing in my life just maybe it&#039;s something called a soul. Anyway let&#039;s watch the going&#039;s on just the next few months with the so called leaders of the gang and then what. Yes then what a very good question.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) said in September that such legislation would probably have to wait until next year, John Bruton, the European Union&#8217;s ambassador to the United States, said U.S. action was key to a new global agreement on climate change set to be discussed in December at an international conference in Copenhagen.</p>
<p>&#8220;Is the U.S. Senate really expecting all the other countries to make a serious effort on climate change at the Copenhagen conference in the absence of a clear commitment from the United States?&#8221; Bruton said.</p>
<p>  At the end of the day like health care what is really happening?  Nothing and at the end of the day the old two party system have dinner together and very sure talk of the little people. Well not at the end of the day but just one more decade the little gang that has decided it&#8217;s cool to be a so called leader will be working together alright and as now they will not be making plans for the little people that&#8217;s us but themselves as they do now in an attempt to hold on to this out of control system. Oh that&#8217;s not true, oh yes it is and they think it&#8217;s ok to think this way well sort of as they have to make harder and harder choices they will become even more nut&#8217;s than they are now. Again that&#8217;s not true well of course it is and here in the States why is cap and trade the best they can do because at the end of the day they still don&#8217;t have a soul as they sold that to the system that will take us we the people all of them too and most of the life forms on the Earth rather rare in the known Universe into a very chaotic World as a start and that&#8217;s best case scenario.  Why do they do this well it&#8217;s better that way because for them to have to live like the rest of us is just out of the question how could they ever go on. The rest of the World is watching us here in the greatest nation on Earth and of course the many who don&#8217;t watch us as to find just food and water is what they do at the end of the day as we here in the States stuff our faces looking for love I guess, how much for that ham no not just one piece the whole ham and maybe not love many are looking for but what&#8217;s my purpose I mean I have 200 million dollars a very large house the boat the cars and there just seems to be something missing in my life just maybe it&#8217;s something called a soul. Anyway let&#8217;s watch the going&#8217;s on just the next few months with the so called leaders of the gang and then what. Yes then what a very good question.</p>
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		<title>By: Don Hawkins</title>
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		<dc:creator>Don Hawkins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2009 21:52:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ANNOUNCER: Ladies and gentlemen, I have a grave announcement to make. Incredible as it may seem, both the observations of science and the evidence of our eyes lead to the inescapable assumption that those strange beings who landed in the Jersey farmlands tonight are the vanguard of an invading army from the planet Mars. 

  Isn&#039;t it strange what the thinking has come to in the first part of the twenty first century?  In 1938 it was only a radio program and yet many people thought it was the real thing. Today this second the problem, problems we face are big and very real and we are made to believe by people who control sort of the bank&#039;s the policy the media business and our thoughts that the biggest problems the human race has ever faced are not real it&#039;s under control sure it is.  We can not solve these problems with missiles and bombs will not work. If you watch Fox New&#039;s the talk seems to be bomb bomb Iran and on CNBC last night this man Larry said cap and trade and this health care bill will hurt the stock market, what.  We just saw a  random noise generator in Pittsburgh and in the coming years I am sure more of that because you see these problems so far are being solved with something called illusion.  Illusion of knowledge on a grade scale. The big plan so far appears for some old thinkers in mind and body get to go out in style I guess that&#039;s what they call it as the rest of the human race goes down the drain in not such so motion. The problems are of course climate change and nuclear weapons not strange beings from Mars. Although there are strange beings among us and now control sort of the bank&#039;s policy media business and our thought&#039;s. You see them on TV with suits and designer dresses and use second grade level thinking illusion of knowledge and foolishness so I guess some of them can move to Hawaii and we that&#039;s we the people get random noise generators as a start. There is away.  Face the problems for what they are use knowledge, imagination, working together reason and the big one something called a soul. A good start would be for the President the leader of the free World to give a speech.

 &quot;Ladies and gentlemen, I have a grave announcement to make. Incredible as it may seem, both the observations of science and the evidence of our eyes lead to the inescapable assumption that we all of us face a problem that will take working together the knowledge we have gained over the years and some cool smart minds.  This will not be easy far from it stay strong calm at peace we will try and with the help of the creator and the knowledge he/her has given us we can do this&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ANNOUNCER: Ladies and gentlemen, I have a grave announcement to make. Incredible as it may seem, both the observations of science and the evidence of our eyes lead to the inescapable assumption that those strange beings who landed in the Jersey farmlands tonight are the vanguard of an invading army from the planet Mars. </p>
<p>  Isn&#8217;t it strange what the thinking has come to in the first part of the twenty first century?  In 1938 it was only a radio program and yet many people thought it was the real thing. Today this second the problem, problems we face are big and very real and we are made to believe by people who control sort of the bank&#8217;s the policy the media business and our thoughts that the biggest problems the human race has ever faced are not real it&#8217;s under control sure it is.  We can not solve these problems with missiles and bombs will not work. If you watch Fox New&#8217;s the talk seems to be bomb bomb Iran and on CNBC last night this man Larry said cap and trade and this health care bill will hurt the stock market, what.  We just saw a  random noise generator in Pittsburgh and in the coming years I am sure more of that because you see these problems so far are being solved with something called illusion.  Illusion of knowledge on a grade scale. The big plan so far appears for some old thinkers in mind and body get to go out in style I guess that&#8217;s what they call it as the rest of the human race goes down the drain in not such so motion. The problems are of course climate change and nuclear weapons not strange beings from Mars. Although there are strange beings among us and now control sort of the bank&#8217;s policy media business and our thought&#8217;s. You see them on TV with suits and designer dresses and use second grade level thinking illusion of knowledge and foolishness so I guess some of them can move to Hawaii and we that&#8217;s we the people get random noise generators as a start. There is away.  Face the problems for what they are use knowledge, imagination, working together reason and the big one something called a soul. A good start would be for the President the leader of the free World to give a speech.</p>
<p> &#8220;Ladies and gentlemen, I have a grave announcement to make. Incredible as it may seem, both the observations of science and the evidence of our eyes lead to the inescapable assumption that we all of us face a problem that will take working together the knowledge we have gained over the years and some cool smart minds.  This will not be easy far from it stay strong calm at peace we will try and with the help of the creator and the knowledge he/her has given us we can do this&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Don Hawkins</title>
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		<dc:creator>Don Hawkins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2009 21:27:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;There is a fifth dimension beyond that which is known to man. It is a dimension as vast as space and as timeless as infinity. It is the middle ground between light and shadow, between science and superstition, and it lies between the pit of man&#039;s fears and the summit of his knowledge. This is the dimension of imagination. It is an area which we call the Twilight Zone. &quot; 
 1959

   That was written in 1959 and this day the first part of the twenty first century we are now clearly as the noise on our face in the middle ground between light and shadow, between science and superstition, and it lies between the pit of man&#039;s fears and the summit of his knowledge. Today we had the Senate here in the greatest nation on Earth try and move with the climate bill. The bill is a complex peice of illusion that does little to slow the problem and the Republicans didn&#039;t show up a boycott they call it. How about shadow and superstition, fear.

And today,
WASHINGTON — European leaders Tuesday urged the US Congress to take action on climate change ahead of next month&#039;s high-stakes Copenhagen summit but Republican lawmakers shunned key talks on moving ahead. 

But her pitch came just hours after Republican senators shunned a critical meeting on a bill -- backed by President Barack Obama -- to set the first US requirements on curbing carbon emissions blamed for global warming.

Asked what impact Merkel&#039;s speech might have on the US debate, Senator James Inhofe, the top Republican on the committee looking at the climate legislation, said: &quot;None whatsoever.&quot;  AP

  If that isn&#039;t the middle ground I&#039;d like to know what is. These people who don&#039;t work for the people but work for only a few who control the bank&#039;s, policy, business and media our thoughts are nothing but arrogant fools. We are only a number to these people the low ones on the chain. The climate bill is a complex piece of illusion and does little to slow the problem. To try means a little harder choice and the people who control the bank&#039;s, policy, business, media our thoughts would they pass a bill that was for real?  Tax carbon and return part of the money to the people build new rails and transit systems how much money to research we can&#039;t drill baby drill, a Herculean effort to get off fossil fuels and this little gang would say this is war well you got that right boy&#039;s. Think of this as kind of a war calm at peace these people who work for the darkside are anything but calm at peace very hard to do when your as nut&#039;s as they are. 

&quot;It won&#039;t be very long before we have to start thinking of the Arctic as an open sea. Man has taken the lid off the northern end of his planet and we can&#039;t put that lid back on again”.   Peter Wadhams, Professor of Ocean Physics and Head of the Polar Physics Group  
    There is very tuff times ahead to late to not know that and to listen to these nut cases who think the middle ground is not that bad is beyond stupid. The fight is on people and the darkside will use all in there little bag of tricks, illusion, bullshit, words like golly gee and heck the media Fox New&#039;s comes to mind.  Pitting one side against another seems to work well for them. These people are quite literally crazy and so far they get away with it. Arrogant fools.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;There is a fifth dimension beyond that which is known to man. It is a dimension as vast as space and as timeless as infinity. It is the middle ground between light and shadow, between science and superstition, and it lies between the pit of man&#8217;s fears and the summit of his knowledge. This is the dimension of imagination. It is an area which we call the Twilight Zone. &#8221;<br />
 1959</p>
<p>   That was written in 1959 and this day the first part of the twenty first century we are now clearly as the noise on our face in the middle ground between light and shadow, between science and superstition, and it lies between the pit of man&#8217;s fears and the summit of his knowledge. Today we had the Senate here in the greatest nation on Earth try and move with the climate bill. The bill is a complex peice of illusion that does little to slow the problem and the Republicans didn&#8217;t show up a boycott they call it. How about shadow and superstition, fear.</p>
<p>And today,<br />
WASHINGTON — European leaders Tuesday urged the US Congress to take action on climate change ahead of next month&#8217;s high-stakes Copenhagen summit but Republican lawmakers shunned key talks on moving ahead. </p>
<p>But her pitch came just hours after Republican senators shunned a critical meeting on a bill &#8212; backed by President Barack Obama &#8212; to set the first US requirements on curbing carbon emissions blamed for global warming.</p>
<p>Asked what impact Merkel&#8217;s speech might have on the US debate, Senator James Inhofe, the top Republican on the committee looking at the climate legislation, said: &#8220;None whatsoever.&#8221;  AP</p>
<p>  If that isn&#8217;t the middle ground I&#8217;d like to know what is. These people who don&#8217;t work for the people but work for only a few who control the bank&#8217;s, policy, business and media our thoughts are nothing but arrogant fools. We are only a number to these people the low ones on the chain. The climate bill is a complex piece of illusion and does little to slow the problem. To try means a little harder choice and the people who control the bank&#8217;s, policy, business, media our thoughts would they pass a bill that was for real?  Tax carbon and return part of the money to the people build new rails and transit systems how much money to research we can&#8217;t drill baby drill, a Herculean effort to get off fossil fuels and this little gang would say this is war well you got that right boy&#8217;s. Think of this as kind of a war calm at peace these people who work for the darkside are anything but calm at peace very hard to do when your as nut&#8217;s as they are. </p>
<p>&#8220;It won&#8217;t be very long before we have to start thinking of the Arctic as an open sea. Man has taken the lid off the northern end of his planet and we can&#8217;t put that lid back on again”.   Peter Wadhams, Professor of Ocean Physics and Head of the Polar Physics Group<br />
    There is very tuff times ahead to late to not know that and to listen to these nut cases who think the middle ground is not that bad is beyond stupid. The fight is on people and the darkside will use all in there little bag of tricks, illusion, bullshit, words like golly gee and heck the media Fox New&#8217;s comes to mind.  Pitting one side against another seems to work well for them. These people are quite literally crazy and so far they get away with it. Arrogant fools.</p>
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