BBV, yes you DO know what “competer’s church” is, and if you don’t, look on the back of the USA dollar. See the pyramid scheme symbol? THAT company… the one that owns all the dollars and “businesses”… the tip of the empire. THAT company. AmWay (American Way/New World Order). Its a giant church/religion/company. It owns all other companies… at least the ones that use THEIR green papers. They claim they want separation of church and state, but THAT church (the church of competers/AmWay) is certainly not separated from “state”, Hell, nearly the entire USA gov are members of THAT greenpaper-worshipping church. Got any REAL CHRISTIANS (from the cooperator’s church) involved in the USA gov? No. Because THAT is the church that the OTHER church wanted to eliminate from having a say (via separation of church and state unwritten rules). Separation of church and state (as it is followed lately) REALLY means… separation of morals and business. Its the separation of cooperators from controlists. Put nuns or farm moms in charge of the USA gov… and watch what happens. Goodbye monetary/ownership discrimination. Without monetary (competer’s church greenpapers) discrimination, the whole pyramid scheme “order” and its rat-racings… will flop to level. And level… is where WE/YOU want to be. No more “getting a leg up” of pyramiding. Egalitarian, monetary and ownership discrimination-less cooperation… will again be accepted and held-firm as the norm. The cooperator’s church (level, no-hierarchy equality) will not “win”, though… as cooperator’s don’t compete. We don’t do winners and losers… we only do equality. C’mon aboard the new movement. We don’t fight, we prove, via intelligence and logic.

I would guess that if someone here were to start posting on DV using the moniker ‘wingnut’ you might see it as a usurpation of what is yours. And you would find yourself a new ‘my name’.

While I may have no quibble with you on the evils of the capitalist economy (and the economy should just be viewed as a relationship, not an entity), it is certain that human economies go a very long way back, and money itself quite clearly predates capitalism.

We also need to distinguish btwn governance and gov’ts, because gov’ts come and go, but a governance usually stays the same.
All major churhes approve of all governances that are set up by plutocrats.

A plutocratic governance; i.e., constitution and its main executive branches
is couched in an extremely vague language; understood by no one but interpreted by executive branches which always come up with just the right interpretation of any of its verbal but meaningless brilliancies.

The meanings extracted from such vagueness is never called an interpretation; it is always described as, “That’s in constitution or that’s what constitution says”.

In addition, religion cannot be separated from reality! And state, whatever that may mean to each person, is also part of the whole.
The word “state” is a generalization. It may be supplanted with the word “all of the people in a country; includes constitution and branches of a gov’t”.

How vague a constitution-governance can be written, existence of slavery, lynching, segregation, racism in US over centuries, clearly prove.
And we have exact governance now as we had 200 yrs ago.

Torture of abducted people, hunt for muslims, probably ?all innocent today also prove that in such a system of governance, ruling class can do anything it wants! And i did not even touch on some 100+ minor and major wars or nuking to death ab 250mn people.
This can happen only with a ‘hallowed-by-word-of-mouth constitution or a constitution made by ‘god’. No wonder americans say, “God {‘god’ in my usage} bless america?
So, Sieg Heil, God Bless America, Holy Land keep on sowing hatred, intolerance, bombs, missiles, oppression, etc.
And Satan wants more of the same! More, much more is coming, kids!
tnx

Nope, I’ll stick with nature/natural, thanks. Others do MY doctor, MY lawyer, MY kids, MY marriage, MY cigarette, MY husband/wife, MY house, MY lunchbreak, MY car, MY labor, MY job, MY money. I use “a” and “the” instead of “my”. Deer don’t do advertising, lawsuits, wallets, purses, money, titles of ownership, store receipts, borders, guns, motorsports, sweets, shopping, profiting, taxing, billings, and/or “do it or else”. Again, its not “our” money. It belongs to the Federal Reserve… which I believe is part of the “republic for which it stands” pyramid scheme/empire/imperialism. Inequality systems and monetary discrimination condoning, promoting, and joining… is about as immoral as it comes.

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Hi. Who is “our”? Dollars have no titles of ownership, and each has “Federal Reserve Note” written on it. I hope you’re not the kind who actually bought into the self lie of “taxpayer dollars” or “YOUR hard earned money”. Both are fallacies. Only things with (en)titles of ownership… can be owned. Dollars can’t be… no matter how deeply they are (snow-) banked-up into a hoard-pile. All mone, and thus all things using it and/or purchased WITH it, are “owned” by the Federal Reserve… whatever THAT is. Its likely a cabal controlled by the Columbia Freemasons… as I believe that is THEIR pyramid scheme symbol on the back of the USA dollar… and the USA gov is in a district of Columbia and not part of the USA mainland.

Wingnut – MaStars Anti-Capitalism-ists
(system fighters, not role-playing-people fighters)

Thank’s david interesting web site.