People, whether short, tall, deaf, blind, dark[e]r, sick, smart, were looked on a people had not, in order to survive and by doing that gave us a life today, cldn’t have but valued one another for simply being people.

But then came along the cunningest, most avaricious, most cruel [probably shamans and clergy] and utterly destroyed the idyllic structure of society.
In modern times, judging people came to its apex.
Judging, and thus discarding people, whom nature/god created, appears as the greatest crime ever perped against humanity.

How cruel-stupid such oppressors can be, events in in palestine, afgh’n, iraq, somalia, and other lands testify.
In fact, US is not governed by a gov’t but by gangsters, a cosa nostra org; behaving just like a biker, street, or mafia gang.
The diffference is that US gang is much larger and powerful than the other ones.
In US such lunacy is actually supported by 98% of pop. tnx

You talk about the death of personal responsibility but yet you advocate total government take over of health care? Where does personal responsibility come up in that equation?

On the other hand, it’s hard to separate the wicked heart from the wicked mind- control handlers. The human brain is like a computer, it can be programed to do all kinds of things. If you watch a lot of tele you are practically mind controled, or at the very least, brain dead.

This is the ultimate in irresponsibility. There is a reason that these sensational mind-controled shootings are broadcast in minute grisly detail by the American media, and why we are all still hearing about Columbine. The control the system gets from these events is much more terrifying than the events themselves. If you do not see how these things are used in the bigger picture you should go and live on the planet where Rosemary and Walt live.

Actually, I realize now that though I meant what I said about needing election reform, I don’t necessarily excuse all voters–especially not the people who obviously do know better and yet vote for war, environmental destruction, and inequality anyway. I definitely do blame, further, the members of obama’s delegation who are still ‘with him’ and have already pledged themselves to him for 2012. And I have suggested a number of times that all those screaming idiots with their ‘change hope’ signs accompany him to the hague where in a just world he would have been prosecuted for war crimes by now.

From the FBI agent in charge of the event and his son producing a video 2 years before, to the constant death threats towards those injured and those interested finding the truth so that they can find some sort of understanding/completion.

The boys were called “Neo-Nazis” by the commercial media and yet they were both Jewish. It seems to contradict with their upbringing.

There seem to be a lot of contradictions.

One hopes for those traumatized by this event, there will be some answers that may help them find some sort of resolution.

I completely agree that our society lacks responsibility at the individual level. Health care reform (or any legislation, for that matter) that expands the welfare apparatus only works to diminish personal responsibility.

About the sub-prime mortgages. Yes, they always blame the little guy. It would be so much better if they just followed the money. Col. David Hackworth said at the beginning of the war that in war some people die and some people get rich. The mortgage meltdown is a little like war. Some people got rich and some people became homeless.

Suzy…Yes, I read the same reports about the Unabomber. Many other children received the same kind of medical care and never killed anyone.

What people need is detailed information about how our overlords operate to violate the principles and priorities we want them to uphold. But Rosemarie doesn’t want to waste her time in this long struggle to find the truth and spread the word. She has had her own awakening, so she demands that others snap out of it now, despite the oppressive conditions in which they live. And she is quite ready to blame the little people for not doing it.

Again, how she thinks this is radical, who knows?

Indeed , and as far i am aware there is just one political party that every time it stands for election insists that no-one votes for it unless they understand and accept and want what they want , which is free access socialism .

It is also a political party that does not have a leader being totally democratic , an organization of equals. Working class emancipation necessarily excludes the role of political leadership. The SPGB and its American companion party WSPUS has an absolute need of supporters with understanding and self-reliance. Even if we could conceive of a leader-ridden working class displacing the capitalist class from power such an immature class would be helpless to undertake the responsibilities of democratic socialist society.

But these are not new positions although we have forgotten those tenets . Eugene Debs said :-
” I’d rather vote for something I want and not get it than vote for something I don’t want, and get it. ” – The case against the lesser of two evils argument when it comes to elections – and just how many remember when they have decided upon the lesser evil , that it was indeed an evil !

He also said :-
“I don’t want you to follow me or anyone else. If you are looking for a Moses to lead you out of the capitalist wilderness you will stay right where you are. I would not lead you into this promised land if I could, because if I could lead you in, someone else could lead you out.”

To me, shamans and priests are least sane people. Yet they tell people how to think and what to do. I am unable to come up with the actual degree of deletereous effect priests have on people’s behavior-thinking-feeling.

Of course, a number of ‘teachers’, having been taught by other ‘teachers’, pols, and clergy also have a great negative influence on people and on children more so.

The miseducation by priests, pols, journalists, psychiatrists, ‘educators’, broadcasters, orgs, doctors, movements, political parties, constitution, jugdges, think tanks, and other members of the ‘elite’ appears so vast and assiduous that only few are able to escape delusional-murderous thinking of ab. at least 99% of any pop and not just american. tnx

Understanding the roots of violence gives us the surest formula for actually ending it, as opposed to just randomly prosecuting it under the explanations of a ‘christian’ evil. While I do support reform of the prison system towards rehabilitation, I also don’t support simply letting people off the hook, especially not at the top. There does have to be real measures to stop the lawless violence enacted against young people, which we saw reenacted upon innocent victims at abu grauib. Yet this, just like climate change, is a bigger issue involving purposeful reform, and not just a ‘spiritual matter’ for the individual.

On another note, recently I had an argument with someone about this subject–he insisted I was shockingly negligent for allegedly ignoring the personal responsibility of the victims of subprime mortgages, while i noted he let off the banks scot-free (and he was a free market fundamentalist who wanted more deregulation to allow the banks to commit more crimes…) So PR can also be used as something really ridiculous.

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