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		<title>By: kalidas</title>
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		<dc:creator>kalidas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Oct 2009 22:26:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ll settle for that perhaps.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ll settle for that perhaps.</p>
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		<title>By: b99</title>
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		<dc:creator>b99</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Oct 2009 18:39:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We are individuals yes, but perhaps not first and foremost.  We all do live in a society you know - and when we opt out we die like that boy in Alaska.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We are individuals yes, but perhaps not first and foremost.  We all do live in a society you know &#8211; and when we opt out we die like that boy in Alaska.</p>
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		<title>By: kalidas</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/10/sex-silicone-and-suits-miss-california-goes-a-courtin/#comment-57874</link>
		<dc:creator>kalidas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Oct 2009 18:17:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One more small thing.

You say &quot;you certainly cannot get to first base on these matters without them.&quot;

In this of course, you are referring to society as a whole, because in the reality I know it is not only possible to do just that but entirely appropriate to hit a home run, individually.

After all, we are each and every one of us individuals first and foremost.
Or at least we should be.
Don&#039;t you think?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One more small thing.</p>
<p>You say &#8220;you certainly cannot get to first base on these matters without them.&#8221;</p>
<p>In this of course, you are referring to society as a whole, because in the reality I know it is not only possible to do just that but entirely appropriate to hit a home run, individually.</p>
<p>After all, we are each and every one of us individuals first and foremost.<br />
Or at least we should be.<br />
Don&#8217;t you think?</p>
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		<title>By: kalidas</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/10/sex-silicone-and-suits-miss-california-goes-a-courtin/#comment-57868</link>
		<dc:creator>kalidas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Oct 2009 17:33:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I understand and reluctantly admire  your &quot;station&quot; completely, B99.
You are obviously a very nice fellow.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I understand and reluctantly admire  your &#8220;station&#8221; completely, B99.<br />
You are obviously a very nice fellow.</p>
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		<title>By: b99</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/10/sex-silicone-and-suits-miss-california-goes-a-courtin/#comment-57861</link>
		<dc:creator>b99</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Oct 2009 14:50:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t know, Kalidas.  I believe in the Equal Rights Amendment and full equality for all.  While such laws, were they enacted, do not gurantee the reality - you certainly cannot get to first base on these matters without them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know, Kalidas.  I believe in the Equal Rights Amendment and full equality for all.  While such laws, were they enacted, do not gurantee the reality &#8211; you certainly cannot get to first base on these matters without them.</p>
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		<title>By: kalidas</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/10/sex-silicone-and-suits-miss-california-goes-a-courtin/#comment-57860</link>
		<dc:creator>kalidas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Oct 2009 14:32:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I guess I should also say, B99, that you sir are very superstitious.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I guess I should also say, B99, that you sir are very superstitious.</p>
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		<title>By: kalidas</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/10/sex-silicone-and-suits-miss-california-goes-a-courtin/#comment-57859</link>
		<dc:creator>kalidas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Oct 2009 14:26:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>B99, wow, that&#039;s quite a mouthful.

I&#039;ll be as honest as I know how..

My &quot;station&quot; is one of those places where the truth must not be revised and kneaded into a belief in something, like Mark Twain said,  &quot;which just ain&#039;t so.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>B99, wow, that&#8217;s quite a mouthful.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll be as honest as I know how..</p>
<p>My &#8220;station&#8221; is one of those places where the truth must not be revised and kneaded into a belief in something, like Mark Twain said,  &#8220;which just ain&#8217;t so.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: lichen</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/10/sex-silicone-and-suits-miss-california-goes-a-courtin/#comment-57829</link>
		<dc:creator>lichen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Oct 2009 19:45:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nope, we do deserve equal rights, and we will have them through changes in legislation, regardless of what deluded straight people like you think.  And yes, there are cultures in the world which don&#039;t find us repugnant, that have historically not found us repugnant, so cultural change is always within grasp.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nope, we do deserve equal rights, and we will have them through changes in legislation, regardless of what deluded straight people like you think.  And yes, there are cultures in the world which don&#8217;t find us repugnant, that have historically not found us repugnant, so cultural change is always within grasp.</p>
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		<title>By: JE</title>
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		<dc:creator>JE</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Oct 2009 06:53:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe being allowed to tell unlike things apart shouldn&#039;t be criminalized..ugh, liberal plutocracy is such a drag...queen.  

Seriously u shouldn&#039;t worry lichen your &quot;people&quot; will be freed from the Egypt that is &quot;discrimination&quot; because the corporatist pigs wouldn&#039;t want to offend a target market...not because anyone cares about the plight of your &quot;people.&quot; 

And as for your make believe rights...just a necessary delusion for &quot;GLBT&quot; people to cope with and rationalize away their tendencies so as to alleviate the cognitive dissonance that comes with being a permanent minority that a certain segment of the population will find repugnant no matter how much liberal propaganda is force fed to them via the media in a here-comes-the-airplane fashion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe being allowed to tell unlike things apart shouldn&#8217;t be criminalized..ugh, liberal plutocracy is such a drag&#8230;queen.  </p>
<p>Seriously u shouldn&#8217;t worry lichen your &#8220;people&#8221; will be freed from the Egypt that is &#8220;discrimination&#8221; because the corporatist pigs wouldn&#8217;t want to offend a target market&#8230;not because anyone cares about the plight of your &#8220;people.&#8221; </p>
<p>And as for your make believe rights&#8230;just a necessary delusion for &#8220;GLBT&#8221; people to cope with and rationalize away their tendencies so as to alleviate the cognitive dissonance that comes with being a permanent minority that a certain segment of the population will find repugnant no matter how much liberal propaganda is force fed to them via the media in a here-comes-the-airplane fashion.</p>
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		<title>By: lichen</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/10/sex-silicone-and-suits-miss-california-goes-a-courtin/#comment-57797</link>
		<dc:creator>lichen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Oct 2009 00:29:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, actually, there is such a thing as the current laws being changed so that GLBT people have full equality under them--full marriage rights, full protection from discrimination when it comes to housing and employment, the end of don&#039;t ask don&#039;t tell, and other laws and loopholes that directly target or leave GLBT people free for discrimination based on their sexuality.  If you have own issues, you can pursue them in your campaigns, with your own volunteers, in your own time.  Perhaps if you worked for full economic rights for yourself, then you would have them; thankfully GLBT people are working hard for these things, and many of us see ourselves as part of a wider movement.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, actually, there is such a thing as the current laws being changed so that GLBT people have full equality under them&#8211;full marriage rights, full protection from discrimination when it comes to housing and employment, the end of don&#8217;t ask don&#8217;t tell, and other laws and loopholes that directly target or leave GLBT people free for discrimination based on their sexuality.  If you have own issues, you can pursue them in your campaigns, with your own volunteers, in your own time.  Perhaps if you worked for full economic rights for yourself, then you would have them; thankfully GLBT people are working hard for these things, and many of us see ourselves as part of a wider movement.</p>
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		<title>By: B99</title>
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		<dc:creator>B99</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Oct 2009 00:19:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So Kalidas, tell me what your station in life is that you can dismiss the struggle for full equality under the law.  Should slavery not have been outlawed because those enslaved would still be exploited?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So Kalidas, tell me what your station in life is that you can dismiss the struggle for full equality under the law.  Should slavery not have been outlawed because those enslaved would still be exploited?</p>
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		<title>By: kalidas</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/10/sex-silicone-and-suits-miss-california-goes-a-courtin/#comment-57794</link>
		<dc:creator>kalidas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Oct 2009 00:14:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;full equality under the law&quot;

More acting?
I think I heard that in a movie, once.
Or was it a fairy tale?

Let&#039;s not pretend there&#039;s any such thing as &quot;full equality under the law.&quot;

That&#039;s in &quot;land of the free&quot; territory.

Every country on earth is &quot;free,&quot; has &quot;full equality under the law&quot; if you have lots of money.

There&#039;s your full equality.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;full equality under the law&#8221;</p>
<p>More acting?<br />
I think I heard that in a movie, once.<br />
Or was it a fairy tale?</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s not pretend there&#8217;s any such thing as &#8220;full equality under the law.&#8221;</p>
<p>That&#8217;s in &#8220;land of the free&#8221; territory.</p>
<p>Every country on earth is &#8220;free,&#8221; has &#8220;full equality under the law&#8221; if you have lots of money.</p>
<p>There&#8217;s your full equality.</p>
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		<title>By: lichen</title>
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		<dc:creator>lichen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Oct 2009 22:08:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No, actors aren&#039;t necessarily one thing or another (and yes, you should remember that the majority of  &quot;actors&quot; are not wealthy connected hollywood people, but low-income theatre players) --and this article was about some homophobic beauty pageant queen.  As long as us GLBT people don&#039;t have full equality under the law, I don&#039;t recognize the opponents of our civil rights as being &quot;entitled to their opinion&quot;  this is politics; we aren&#039;t talking about preferences for a certain type of music or fruit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, actors aren&#8217;t necessarily one thing or another (and yes, you should remember that the majority of  &#8220;actors&#8221; are not wealthy connected hollywood people, but low-income theatre players) &#8211;and this article was about some homophobic beauty pageant queen.  As long as us GLBT people don&#8217;t have full equality under the law, I don&#8217;t recognize the opponents of our civil rights as being &#8220;entitled to their opinion&#8221;  this is politics; we aren&#8217;t talking about preferences for a certain type of music or fruit.</p>
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		<title>By: bozhidar balkas vancouver</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/10/sex-silicone-and-suits-miss-california-goes-a-courtin/#comment-57787</link>
		<dc:creator>bozhidar balkas vancouver</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Oct 2009 20:25:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kalidas,
I said perhaps all or most actors look dwn on us. But mizrahic &#039;jewish&#039; actors portraying &#039;mad arabs&#039; intent on doing a building dwn appear even worse than nonjewish actors.

Particularly bad for that is ncis. The acting by these &#039;jews&#039; is truly done by books: talmud, mishnah, torah.
Unfortunately for me, my wife who&#039;s diagnozed with alzheimer&#039;s, screams bloody murder if i  change channels. She&#039;s the one, like another 150mn american women who ask, what&#039;s zionism?
Or where is afgh&#039;n? Or believe in saviors like &#039;god&#039;, jesus, kennedy, obama, or clooney.  
Her longest trips are from bed to couch and back. Reads 15 books in two weaks; wins every argument; watches almost solely police shows.

Actors such as waine, tracy, hepburn, newman, cooper, douglas and a few thousand more i evaluate as extremely anti-lower classses; prowarfare, supremacistic, etc. tnx</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kalidas,<br />
I said perhaps all or most actors look dwn on us. But mizrahic &#8216;jewish&#8217; actors portraying &#8216;mad arabs&#8217; intent on doing a building dwn appear even worse than nonjewish actors.</p>
<p>Particularly bad for that is ncis. The acting by these &#8216;jews&#8217; is truly done by books: talmud, mishnah, torah.<br />
Unfortunately for me, my wife who&#8217;s diagnozed with alzheimer&#8217;s, screams bloody murder if i  change channels. She&#8217;s the one, like another 150mn american women who ask, what&#8217;s zionism?<br />
Or where is afgh&#8217;n? Or believe in saviors like &#8216;god&#8217;, jesus, kennedy, obama, or clooney.<br />
Her longest trips are from bed to couch and back. Reads 15 books in two weaks; wins every argument; watches almost solely police shows.</p>
<p>Actors such as waine, tracy, hepburn, newman, cooper, douglas and a few thousand more i evaluate as extremely anti-lower classses; prowarfare, supremacistic, etc. tnx</p>
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		<title>By: kalidas</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/10/sex-silicone-and-suits-miss-california-goes-a-courtin/#comment-57785</link>
		<dc:creator>kalidas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Oct 2009 19:29:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Actors are no better or worse than the rest of us. Basically trying to make a living.&quot; 

Ha Ha Ha
You&#039;re acting, right?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Actors are no better or worse than the rest of us. Basically trying to make a living.&#8221; </p>
<p>Ha Ha Ha<br />
You&#8217;re acting, right?</p>
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		<title>By: b99</title>
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		<dc:creator>b99</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Oct 2009 17:30:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bozh - I can&#039;t imagine what your wife does with her free time if she has no interest in news or movies.   Hey, there are some great movies - at its best it&#039;s an art form.  You just have to be selective.

Actors are no better or worse than the rest of us. Basically trying to make a living.  As far as wriggling and wiggling  -- it goes back a very long way.  it&#039;s just when they use sex to sell other products does it amount to prurient use.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bozh &#8211; I can&#8217;t imagine what your wife does with her free time if she has no interest in news or movies.   Hey, there are some great movies &#8211; at its best it&#8217;s an art form.  You just have to be selective.</p>
<p>Actors are no better or worse than the rest of us. Basically trying to make a living.  As far as wriggling and wiggling  &#8212; it goes back a very long way.  it&#8217;s just when they use sex to sell other products does it amount to prurient use.</p>
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		<title>By: bozhidar balkas vancouver</title>
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		<dc:creator>bozhidar balkas vancouver</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Oct 2009 16:55:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have stopped watching academy awards and pageant shows ab 20 yrs ago.
I even reject rating-grading children&#039;s abilities as a, b, c, d, or f. Rating cows as prime, a, c, d is ok; the cows don`t mind at all.
I had been able to persuade my wife to boycott all movies. She was not ever interested in news; so, i did not have to tell her not to watch bbc, cbc, cnn.

Most or perhaps   all actors abet war crimes by nato, us, isr. Most of them look dwn on us while their movies and other shows i evaluate as deliberate lies and very palid.

And, of course,  showing only buttiful and butiful, tall, slim women wriggling and wiggling their hips, etc., is so antiwomen; deformed-disinformed by corporate lords and fully supported by actors! tnx</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have stopped watching academy awards and pageant shows ab 20 yrs ago.<br />
I even reject rating-grading children&#8217;s abilities as a, b, c, d, or f. Rating cows as prime, a, c, d is ok; the cows don`t mind at all.<br />
I had been able to persuade my wife to boycott all movies. She was not ever interested in news; so, i did not have to tell her not to watch bbc, cbc, cnn.</p>
<p>Most or perhaps   all actors abet war crimes by nato, us, isr. Most of them look dwn on us while their movies and other shows i evaluate as deliberate lies and very palid.</p>
<p>And, of course,  showing only buttiful and butiful, tall, slim women wriggling and wiggling their hips, etc., is so antiwomen; deformed-disinformed by corporate lords and fully supported by actors! tnx</p>
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