Comments on: New Doubt Cast on U.S. Claim Qom Plant is Illicit http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/10/new-doubt-cast-on-u-s-claim-qom-plant-is-illicit/ a radical newsletter in the struggle for peace and social justice Thu, 08 Dec 2011 15:07:30 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: lloyd http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/10/new-doubt-cast-on-u-s-claim-qom-plant-is-illicit/#comment-56447 lloyd Tue, 06 Oct 2009 00:38:15 +0000 http://dissidentvoice.org/?p=10863#comment-56447 I've been away from DV and at OpEdNews, Mulga, and have never read the term "Zionazis". But considering the alignment of military forces in the Levant and eastward, I can't see what good it serves to antagonize militant Israelis. The truth may never hurt, but it can kill. We are here typing, while Codepink and Cynthia McKinney and countless others are putting their bodies on the line to oppose M.I. in Gaza and elsewhere. I believe in not interfering with their good work, and I truly believe that they think good work can be done with words also. And those words are not words of hate and separation. Militant Israelis, dear Mulga, are scared shitless too. I’ve been away from DV and at OpEdNews, Mulga, and have never read the term “Zionazis”. But considering the alignment of military forces in the Levant and eastward, I can’t see what good it serves to antagonize militant Israelis. The truth may never hurt, but it can kill.

We are here typing, while Codepink and Cynthia McKinney and countless others are putting their bodies on the line to oppose M.I. in Gaza and elsewhere. I believe in not interfering with their good work, and I truly believe that they think good work can be done with words also.

And those words are not words of hate and separation. Militant Israelis, dear Mulga, are scared shitless too.

]]> By: Mulga Mumblebrain http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/10/new-doubt-cast-on-u-s-claim-qom-plant-is-illicit/#comment-56445 Mulga Mumblebrain Tue, 06 Oct 2009 00:16:40 +0000 http://dissidentvoice.org/?p=10863#comment-56445 Shabnam, the Zionazis who control the US political process ought to be exposed. I think lloyd is wrong to counsel ignoring their Judaic roots, because the truth never hurts. AIPAC will vilify any critics of Israel as 'anti-Semites' no matter what. The sinister religio-fascist implications of the Israeli campaign to demonise then 'obliterate' (in Clinton's words)Iran must be borne in mind. Israel is increasingly a state dominated by religious fascists like Shas and their more secular fascist supporters like Avigdor Lieberman. The upper ranks of the military and intelligence are increasingly dominated by religious zealots affiliated to the settler Taliban, and for them, as was revealed in the New York Times, the Iranian question is an 'Amalek' moment. For those unacquainted with Judaic demonology, the Amalekites are God's eternal enemies. The Great Jew in the Sky has decreed that they must be exterminated, down to the last suckling babe. As to who the 'Amalek of the current age' are, the nominees are numerous. Certain religio-homicidal authorities have it that they are the Palestinians, Arabs as a whole or even the USA. Recently I have seen not a few who declare that they come from Persia (Iran) and Haman, the great hate-figure from that religious celebration of Judaic mass murder, Purim, was one of them. I'd say that the destruction of Iran is already decided upon, that it is set for next February 28th, in order to 'celebrate' Purim in the proper manner, and that the 'House Negro' and all the other Western stooges of Judaic power will either 'turn the other way' like good Christians, or join in the slaughter. That would get the Jewish political donations flowing, nicely. Shabnam, the Zionazis who control the US political process ought to be exposed. I think lloyd is wrong to counsel ignoring their Judaic roots, because the truth never hurts. AIPAC will vilify any critics of Israel as ‘anti-Semites’ no matter what. The sinister religio-fascist implications of the Israeli campaign to demonise then ‘obliterate’ (in Clinton’s words)Iran must be borne in mind. Israel is increasingly a state dominated by religious fascists like Shas and their more secular fascist supporters like Avigdor Lieberman. The upper ranks of the military and intelligence are increasingly dominated by religious zealots affiliated to the settler Taliban, and for them, as was revealed in the New York Times, the Iranian question is an ‘Amalek’ moment.
For those unacquainted with Judaic demonology, the Amalekites are God’s eternal enemies. The Great Jew in the Sky has decreed that they must be exterminated, down to the last suckling babe. As to who the ‘Amalek of the current age’ are, the nominees are numerous. Certain religio-homicidal authorities have it that they are the Palestinians, Arabs as a whole or even the USA. Recently I have seen not a few who declare that they come from Persia (Iran) and Haman, the great hate-figure from that religious celebration of Judaic mass murder, Purim, was one of them. I’d say that the destruction of Iran is already decided upon, that it is set for next February 28th, in order to ‘celebrate’ Purim in the proper manner, and that the ‘House Negro’ and all the other Western stooges of Judaic power will either ‘turn the other way’ like good Christians, or join in the slaughter. That would get the Jewish political donations flowing, nicely.

]]> By: lloyd http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/10/new-doubt-cast-on-u-s-claim-qom-plant-is-illicit/#comment-56440 lloyd Mon, 05 Oct 2009 23:25:40 +0000 http://dissidentvoice.org/?p=10863#comment-56440 I don't mind being bumped off the comments column, but by such raving! Apparently Shabnam is referring to Zionist Jews in the American government as who should be exposed and kicked out. If so, he or she or it is certifiable. But worse than insane, S. is spewing the sort of trash that promotes AIPAC and its sympathizers, ie, he or she or it is being counterproductive. I don’t mind being bumped off the comments column, but by such raving!

Apparently Shabnam is referring to Zionist Jews in the American government as who should be exposed and kicked out. If so, he or she or it is certifiable. But worse than insane, S. is spewing the sort of trash that promotes AIPAC and its sympathizers, ie, he or she or it is being counterproductive.

]]> By: Shabnam http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/10/new-doubt-cast-on-u-s-claim-qom-plant-is-illicit/#comment-56420 Shabnam Mon, 05 Oct 2009 17:45:28 +0000 http://dissidentvoice.org/?p=10863#comment-56420 I have just found out that Ileana Ros-Lehtinen, who is supporter of Mujahedeen - a terrorist organization at the service of zionism, is A JEW. This Zionist Jew has been involved in many bills against Iranian people and she is determine to wage a war on Iran for interest of Israel by establishing ‘greater Israel’ through destabilization and partition. She recently said: “The U.S. and other countries must immediately impose crippling sanctions on the Iranian regime, including cutting off Iran’s imports of gasoline,” said Ileana Ros-Lehtinen, the ranking Republican on the House Foreign Affairs Committee. “The world cannot stand by and watch the nightmare of a nuclear-armed Iran become reality.” The world cannot stand by and watch the nightmare of Zionist Jews who are using American power, resources and American lives to expand Israel’s interest in the world. Please expose names of all Zionist Jews in the government and ask American people to force these agents and their puppets out. Shame on people who protect and help these enemies of humanity. Defeat Zionism and its agents, a fifth column, in every western capital. Jeff Gates writes: Citing Iran's "covert" facility, Wolfowitz claims it is "clear that Iran's rulers are pursuing nuclear weapons.…Time is running out." Without a hint of irony, he argues that Iran (not Israel) "is a crucial test of whether the path to a nuclear-free world is a realistic one or simply a dangerous pipe dream." In calling for "crippling sanctions," Howard Berman, Jewish chairman of the House Committee on Foreign Affairs, expressed similar concerns as did Ileana Ros-Lehtinen, senior Republican on the Committee and also Jewish. http://www.payvand.com/news/09/oct/1041.html I have just found out that Ileana Ros-Lehtinen, who is supporter of Mujahedeen – a terrorist organization at the service of zionism, is A JEW. This Zionist Jew has been involved in many bills against Iranian people and she is determine to wage a war on Iran for interest of Israel by establishing ‘greater Israel’ through destabilization and partition.
She recently said:
“The U.S. and other countries must immediately impose crippling sanctions on the Iranian regime, including cutting off Iran’s imports of gasoline,” said Ileana Ros-Lehtinen, the ranking Republican on the House Foreign Affairs Committee. “The world cannot stand by and watch the nightmare of a nuclear-armed Iran become reality.”

The world cannot stand by and watch the nightmare of Zionist Jews who are using American power, resources and American lives to expand Israel’s interest in the world. Please expose names of all Zionist Jews in the government and ask American people to force these agents and their puppets out. Shame on people who protect and help these enemies of humanity. Defeat Zionism and its agents, a fifth column, in every western capital.

Jeff Gates writes:
Citing Iran’s “covert” facility, Wolfowitz claims it is “clear that Iran’s rulers are pursuing nuclear weapons.…Time is running out.” Without a hint of irony, he argues that Iran (not Israel) “is a crucial test of whether the path to a nuclear-free world is a realistic one or simply a dangerous pipe dream.” In calling for “crippling sanctions,” Howard Berman, Jewish chairman of the House Committee on Foreign Affairs, expressed similar concerns as did Ileana Ros-Lehtinen, senior Republican on the Committee and also Jewish.

http://www.payvand.com/news/09/oct/1041.html

]]> By: lloyd http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/10/new-doubt-cast-on-u-s-claim-qom-plant-is-illicit/#comment-56411 lloyd Mon, 05 Oct 2009 15:44:44 +0000 http://dissidentvoice.org/?p=10863#comment-56411 Terrifyingly like the uranium flap before King George II unleashed the dogs of war on Iraq. But will Ms. Rice play the role of cat's paw in the United Nations like General Powell did in 2003? And this time of course, to clear the way for an attack whether nuclear or not by militant Israel on Iran. Terrifyingly like the uranium flap before King George II unleashed the dogs of war on Iraq. But will Ms. Rice play the role of cat’s paw in the United Nations like General Powell did in 2003? And this time of course, to clear the way for an attack whether nuclear or not by militant Israel on Iran.

]]> By: Annie Ladysmith http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/10/new-doubt-cast-on-u-s-claim-qom-plant-is-illicit/#comment-56391 Annie Ladysmith Mon, 05 Oct 2009 06:33:51 +0000 http://dissidentvoice.org/?p=10863#comment-56391 I do hope that people are getting better at discerning these scumbag's wretched LIES, what with all the 9/11 truth searchers, and the ubiquitous, 'weapons of mass destruction' BIG LIE. BUT, i have my doubts. Obama is a puppet just like Boy Bush, he may be slightly more cunning, but the same LYING, FORKED-TONGUE,SNAKE-WEASEL as they all are. Expendable pawns in the Power-brokers game but loyal to their programers. They have threatened and terrorized the nation of Iran for NO GOOD reason. If Iran said PISS-OFF, which it has every right to, they would have those fuel-cell bombs bombarding civilian targets morning and night for months. They are completely MAD, and should be put in asylums and then heavily sedated, while the American people take their money and their gov. back. AMERICAN CITIZENS YOU ARE BEING HELD HOSTAGE BY LIES AND DECEIT. THE TRUTH IS THEY ARE TERRORFIED OF YOU. TAKE YOUR GOV. BACK NOW AND STOP TERRORIZING DEFENSELESS NATIONS. I do hope that people are getting better at discerning these scumbag’s wretched LIES, what with all the 9/11 truth searchers, and the ubiquitous, ‘weapons of mass destruction’ BIG LIE. BUT, i have my doubts.

Obama is a puppet just like Boy Bush, he may be slightly more cunning, but the same LYING, FORKED-TONGUE,SNAKE-WEASEL as they all are. Expendable pawns in the Power-brokers game but loyal to their programers.

They have threatened and terrorized the nation of Iran for NO GOOD reason. If Iran said PISS-OFF, which it has every right to, they would have those fuel-cell bombs bombarding civilian targets morning and night for months. They are completely MAD, and should be put in asylums and then heavily sedated, while the American people take their money and their gov. back.

AMERICAN CITIZENS YOU ARE BEING HELD HOSTAGE BY LIES AND DECEIT. THE TRUTH IS THEY ARE TERRORFIED OF YOU. TAKE YOUR GOV. BACK NOW AND STOP TERRORIZING DEFENSELESS NATIONS.

]]> By: Don Hawkins http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/10/new-doubt-cast-on-u-s-claim-qom-plant-is-illicit/#comment-56346 Don Hawkins Sun, 04 Oct 2009 15:54:06 +0000 http://dissidentvoice.org/?p=10863#comment-56346 Because an attack on Iran could be the straw that broke the camels back. They are not ready to do that yet. Plans not in place yet for a few people. Make a good book. Because an attack on Iran could be the straw that broke the camels back. They are not ready to do that yet. Plans not in place yet for a few people. Make a good book.

]]> By: balkas b b http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/10/new-doubt-cast-on-u-s-claim-qom-plant-is-illicit/#comment-56344 balkas b b Sun, 04 Oct 2009 15:37:04 +0000 http://dissidentvoice.org/?p=10863#comment-56344 I do not doubt even a tad that iran wld be attacked, dismembered, and puppetized. Almost all arab lands wld also like to see the demise of iran. To justify an attack on iran, it must be assiduously portrayed as peril to nato lands and ME. But nato is not ready yet. And only high politico-military echelons know why it is not ready or unable to attack iran at this time. But we do have some guesses as to why iran is not being attacked at this time. Any guessing adventurers out there? tnx I do not doubt even a tad that iran wld be attacked, dismembered, and puppetized.
Almost all arab lands wld also like to see the demise of iran.
To justify an attack on iran, it must be assiduously portrayed as peril to nato lands and ME.
But nato is not ready yet. And only high politico-military echelons know why it is not ready or unable to attack iran at this time.
But we do have some guesses as to why iran is not being attacked at this time. Any guessing adventurers out there? tnx

]]> By: Mulga Mumblebrain http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/10/new-doubt-cast-on-u-s-claim-qom-plant-is-illicit/#comment-56310 Mulga Mumblebrain Sun, 04 Oct 2009 08:02:32 +0000 http://dissidentvoice.org/?p=10863#comment-56310 So, once again we are being brainwashed, by the same recidivist pathological liars, the Western bully-boys who do the Holy State's agit-prop for it, to the same end, the destruction of a Middle Eastern Islamic state, as occured in 2002 over 'Saddam's WMD'. This particular lie-fest, being repeated with robotic precision, over and over again, as always without a peep of dissent, by the psychopathic stooges of the Western media sewer, reminds me of the 'uranium from Africa' lie from 2002. Who can forget that florid psychopath, GW Bush, (the sort of man who makes a joke of mocking by callous imitation the pleas for mercy of one of the scores he sentenced to death by only once commuting a death sentence in over one hundred cases) gibbering moronically about 'uranium from Africa'. Not wanting to confused his single digit IQ support base by naming Niger specifically (or perhaps loathe to repeat what he probably pronounces like a racist epithet)his lie on that occasion was cretinously unspecific. Obama is plainly smarter, shrewder and even more unscrupulous than Bush. His Zionazi masters want more blood, probably to celebrate Purim next February 28th, so we should, I imagine, see a few more months of mounting media hysteria, lying and hatemongering-what they do best. Of course Iran has not been softened up by a decade of brutal sanctions, like Iraq. You can bet that the Yanks and their Judeofascist controllers, let alone the flunkies of NATO, will not dare invade Iran. Far too deadly a foe, and our Yankee heroes, while blissfully happy to kill for Mom, God and apple-pie (on a stick, dipped in batter and deep fried)are far more loathe to die for them. So I expect it will be the trademark Israeli sneak attack, then either real Iranian retaliation against the Yanks, or some Mossad black-ops provocation, and the US Air Force and Navy can join in the fun. I expect it will not be a 'turkey-shoot' like Gaza, Lebanon or the Kuwait-Basra Highway in 1991, to warm the cockles of the 'hearts' of the homicidal maniacs, but it sure as hell will be good for business, and the favourite business of the US is, and always has been, murder. So, once again we are being brainwashed, by the same recidivist pathological liars, the Western bully-boys who do the Holy State’s agit-prop for it, to the same end, the destruction of a Middle Eastern Islamic state, as occured in 2002 over ‘Saddam’s WMD’. This particular lie-fest, being repeated with robotic precision, over and over again, as always without a peep of dissent, by the psychopathic stooges of the Western media sewer, reminds me of the ‘uranium from Africa’ lie from 2002. Who can forget that florid psychopath, GW Bush, (the sort of man who makes a joke of mocking by callous imitation the pleas for mercy of one of the scores he sentenced to death by only once commuting a death sentence in over one hundred cases) gibbering moronically about ‘uranium from Africa’. Not wanting to confused his single digit IQ support base by naming Niger specifically (or perhaps loathe to repeat what he probably pronounces like a racist epithet)his lie on that occasion was cretinously unspecific.
Obama is plainly smarter, shrewder and even more unscrupulous than Bush. His Zionazi masters want more blood, probably to celebrate Purim next February 28th, so we should, I imagine, see a few more months of mounting media hysteria, lying and hatemongering-what they do best. Of course Iran has not been softened up by a decade of brutal sanctions, like Iraq. You can bet that the Yanks and their Judeofascist controllers, let alone the flunkies of NATO, will not dare invade Iran. Far too deadly a foe, and our Yankee heroes, while blissfully happy to kill for Mom, God and apple-pie (on a stick, dipped in batter and deep fried)are far more loathe to die for them. So I expect it will be the trademark Israeli sneak attack, then either real Iranian retaliation against the Yanks, or some Mossad black-ops provocation, and the US Air Force and Navy can join in the fun. I expect it will not be a ‘turkey-shoot’ like Gaza, Lebanon or the Kuwait-Basra Highway in 1991, to warm the cockles of the ‘hearts’ of the homicidal maniacs, but it sure as hell will be good for business, and the favourite business of the US is, and always has been, murder.

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