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		<title>By: Wingnut</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/10/losing-our-food-freedom/#comment-58347</link>
		<dc:creator>Wingnut</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2009 06:03:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pollyticians use lots of &quot;OUR&quot; this and &quot;OUR&quot; that, too, to make you feel like you are part of the team and part of the decision-making process.   Commonfolk buy right in, too... often parroting &quot;our economy&quot;, &quot;our government&quot;,  and &quot;our military&quot; in common daily gossip.  Everyone LIKES to feel included and integral.  Goo-goo gah-gah petting and nurturing, ya know?  It pacifies the &quot;everything is fine&quot; surface dwelling non-critical thinkers  (non-boat-rockers).

Many polly&#039;s use &quot;move forward&quot; too, but, nobody knows which direction forward is, anymore.  Based upon 178 degrees of left and right and... 178 degrees of up and down,  there are actually 31684 directions that could be labeled as &quot;forward&quot;.  :) 

Look out for funny little repeated cock&#039;n&#039;bulls like... &quot;the bottom line is&quot; (WHOSE bottom line?) and... &quot;the fact that...&quot;  (trying to railroad you into believing something is a fact when its actually opinion).

Railroading and schmooze comes in all sorts of &quot;you&#039;ll buy into anything&quot; flavors.  Its the magic of PR and spin.  Painting and makeup.  Dressing and perfuming dogturds to look and smell like Malibu Barbie.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pollyticians use lots of &#8220;OUR&#8221; this and &#8220;OUR&#8221; that, too, to make you feel like you are part of the team and part of the decision-making process.   Commonfolk buy right in, too&#8230; often parroting &#8220;our economy&#8221;, &#8220;our government&#8221;,  and &#8220;our military&#8221; in common daily gossip.  Everyone LIKES to feel included and integral.  Goo-goo gah-gah petting and nurturing, ya know?  It pacifies the &#8220;everything is fine&#8221; surface dwelling non-critical thinkers  (non-boat-rockers).</p>
<p>Many polly&#8217;s use &#8220;move forward&#8221; too, but, nobody knows which direction forward is, anymore.  Based upon 178 degrees of left and right and&#8230; 178 degrees of up and down,  there are actually 31684 directions that could be labeled as &#8220;forward&#8221;.  :) </p>
<p>Look out for funny little repeated cock&#8217;n'bulls like&#8230; &#8220;the bottom line is&#8221; (WHOSE bottom line?) and&#8230; &#8220;the fact that&#8230;&#8221;  (trying to railroad you into believing something is a fact when its actually opinion).</p>
<p>Railroading and schmooze comes in all sorts of &#8220;you&#8217;ll buy into anything&#8221; flavors.  Its the magic of PR and spin.  Painting and makeup.  Dressing and perfuming dogturds to look and smell like Malibu Barbie.</p>
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		<title>By: bozh</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/10/losing-our-food-freedom/#comment-58332</link>
		<dc:creator>bozh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2009 23:20:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I evaluate all promises as lies. A promise can be uttered explicitly or be implicit or tacitly posited.
Statements such, war against terror, to prevent future terror, to enhance the security of US, to preserve US fredoms/democracy, to defend US interests, etc., are explicit promises. 

But these statements also contain numerous tacit promises. &quot;Defending US interests&quot; promise,  implies that ALL americans stand to gain s&#039;mthing from wars on terror. And not to mention that US wld find terrorists. Or that there is even one or two in afgh&#039;n. And find him in a crowded village sleeping in own bed!

The statement  &quot;ending the war in iraq by yr 09&quot;, if it was made, wld have been  an explicit promise. If the yr was ommitted then the promise was a fake whether ex- or implicit.

Just ab. in any political or priestly utterance one can discover a promise.
Even holding an election holds hidden promises. An election promises that new executives wld bring improvements for all people or it implies that the previous administration was dumber, more corrupt and thus it had to be changed.
New elections promise tacitly that democracy wld improve as a result of change.
&quot;A change we can believe in&quot; is an obvious promise but so inane, vacuous that i upon hearing it asked will americans go for it? They did, i think!
tnx</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I evaluate all promises as lies. A promise can be uttered explicitly or be implicit or tacitly posited.<br />
Statements such, war against terror, to prevent future terror, to enhance the security of US, to preserve US fredoms/democracy, to defend US interests, etc., are explicit promises. </p>
<p>But these statements also contain numerous tacit promises. &#8220;Defending US interests&#8221; promise,  implies that ALL americans stand to gain s&#8217;mthing from wars on terror. And not to mention that US wld find terrorists. Or that there is even one or two in afgh&#8217;n. And find him in a crowded village sleeping in own bed!</p>
<p>The statement  &#8220;ending the war in iraq by yr 09&#8243;, if it was made, wld have been  an explicit promise. If the yr was ommitted then the promise was a fake whether ex- or implicit.</p>
<p>Just ab. in any political or priestly utterance one can discover a promise.<br />
Even holding an election holds hidden promises. An election promises that new executives wld bring improvements for all people or it implies that the previous administration was dumber, more corrupt and thus it had to be changed.<br />
New elections promise tacitly that democracy wld improve as a result of change.<br />
&#8220;A change we can believe in&#8221; is an obvious promise but so inane, vacuous that i upon hearing it asked will americans go for it? They did, i think!<br />
tnx</p>
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		<title>By: Sam</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/10/losing-our-food-freedom/#comment-58247</link>
		<dc:creator>Sam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2009 04:02:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Peggy wrote:

We need the &quot;&#039;positive&quot; change promised in the Obama campaign.

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Well that was all BS, as with most politicians.   It was nothing but marketing slogans intended to dupe the gullible sheep.  Obama&#039;s voting record showed that it was BS.  

&quot;Politician 101&quot; requires a candidate to  say anything to dupe those who will allow themselves to be duped.   &quot;Politician 101&quot; requires a candidate to talk about  &quot;building bridges&quot; and &quot;pushing the envelope&quot; and &quot;rolling my sleeves up to get the job done,&quot; and &quot;drawing a line in the sand&quot; and &quot;I&#039;m resigning to spend time with my family.&quot;   (That&#039;s just a partial list of the required political language they think they must routinely spew).

Most politicians are like a brick.  They mostly look the same and act the same, especially the D and R war criminals in congress and in the White House today.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Peggy wrote:</p>
<p>We need the &#8220;&#8216;positive&#8221; change promised in the Obama campaign.</p>
<p>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;</p>
<p>Well that was all BS, as with most politicians.   It was nothing but marketing slogans intended to dupe the gullible sheep.  Obama&#8217;s voting record showed that it was BS.  </p>
<p>&#8220;Politician 101&#8243; requires a candidate to  say anything to dupe those who will allow themselves to be duped.   &#8220;Politician 101&#8243; requires a candidate to talk about  &#8220;building bridges&#8221; and &#8220;pushing the envelope&#8221; and &#8220;rolling my sleeves up to get the job done,&#8221; and &#8220;drawing a line in the sand&#8221; and &#8220;I&#8217;m resigning to spend time with my family.&#8221;   (That&#8217;s just a partial list of the required political language they think they must routinely spew).</p>
<p>Most politicians are like a brick.  They mostly look the same and act the same, especially the D and R war criminals in congress and in the White House today.</p>
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		<title>By: Peggy Troiano</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/10/losing-our-food-freedom/#comment-58224</link>
		<dc:creator>Peggy Troiano</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Nov 2009 20:54:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We need the “positive” change promised in the Obama campaign. We, the Toxically Injured, are proof that there is quite a bit of discrepancy between what consumers are lead to believe is a safe product and what they are actually getting. Letting the fox guard the hen house is never a good choice and will only continue to allow the harm from the toxic assault we are exposed to daily and this includes President Obama&#039;s children as well as ours. 

We need those whose very jobs are to protect our health and welfare to do so; to change their ideas and practices to protect all our citizens, our children, our pets, our livestock, our agriculture, our industry and our environment, NOT keep padding the pockets of a few. No one can afford to continue using consumer product or environmental toxins. The price tag is too high, and the bill is fast coming due. The rapidly increasing numbers of those disabled by Toxically Injured testify to that.

We believe if one isn’t a part of the solution, one is part of the problem.  I applaud Sheila and others for their efforts for a safer and healthier environment, food chain, etc.

Your friend in Hope &amp; Health,
Peggy
http://toxicinjury.org

It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his salary depends upon his not understanding it! Upton Sinclair</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We need the “positive” change promised in the Obama campaign. We, the Toxically Injured, are proof that there is quite a bit of discrepancy between what consumers are lead to believe is a safe product and what they are actually getting. Letting the fox guard the hen house is never a good choice and will only continue to allow the harm from the toxic assault we are exposed to daily and this includes President Obama&#8217;s children as well as ours. </p>
<p>We need those whose very jobs are to protect our health and welfare to do so; to change their ideas and practices to protect all our citizens, our children, our pets, our livestock, our agriculture, our industry and our environment, NOT keep padding the pockets of a few. No one can afford to continue using consumer product or environmental toxins. The price tag is too high, and the bill is fast coming due. The rapidly increasing numbers of those disabled by Toxically Injured testify to that.</p>
<p>We believe if one isn’t a part of the solution, one is part of the problem.  I applaud Sheila and others for their efforts for a safer and healthier environment, food chain, etc.</p>
<p>Your friend in Hope &amp; Health,<br />
Peggy<br />
<a href="http://toxicinjury.org" rel="nofollow">http://toxicinjury.org</a></p>
<p>It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his salary depends upon his not understanding it! Upton Sinclair</p>
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		<title>By: Sheila Velazquez</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/10/losing-our-food-freedom/#comment-58174</link>
		<dc:creator>Sheila Velazquez</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Nov 2009 12:41:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No one action will change anything. However, organizing the facts so that they can be passed on is one way to get the word out. Real representative democracy won&#039;t kill us; it will free us. What we have to do is work toward it. And we have to get enough people involved that we will have a choice of candidates who will do just that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No one action will change anything. However, organizing the facts so that they can be passed on is one way to get the word out. Real representative democracy won&#8217;t kill us; it will free us. What we have to do is work toward it. And we have to get enough people involved that we will have a choice of candidates who will do just that.</p>
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		<title>By: Marc Schlee</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/10/losing-our-food-freedom/#comment-58140</link>
		<dc:creator>Marc Schlee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Nov 2009 03:24:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Representative democracy is killing us.


FREE AMERICA

REVOLUTIONARY (DIRECT) DEMOCRACY</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Representative democracy is killing us.</p>
<p>FREE AMERICA</p>
<p>REVOLUTIONARY (DIRECT) DEMOCRACY</p>
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		<title>By: Don Hawkins</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/10/losing-our-food-freedom/#comment-58137</link>
		<dc:creator>Don Hawkins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Nov 2009 01:26:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sam one thing for sure. 

That old man river, 
He just keeps rolling along.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sam one thing for sure. </p>
<p>That old man river,<br />
He just keeps rolling along.</p>
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		<title>By: Sam</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/10/losing-our-food-freedom/#comment-58135</link>
		<dc:creator>Sam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Nov 2009 00:43:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If I thought it would make one damn bit of difference by signing yet another petition to send to some scum of the earth war criminal in La Casa Blanca (the White House) who doesn&#039;t give a damn about any of this stuff nor does he take his orders from us/We The People, I would sign it.  But in the end, the petition is a waste of paper that it&#039;s printed on.

WHEN since 2000 was the last time that any petition had any bearing on these trash in power?...considering the state of things today.  That&#039;s just the reality of the situation.

Lots of $$$$$$$$$$$$$ and corporate thieves are  in control.  Not petitions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If I thought it would make one damn bit of difference by signing yet another petition to send to some scum of the earth war criminal in La Casa Blanca (the White House) who doesn&#8217;t give a damn about any of this stuff nor does he take his orders from us/We The People, I would sign it.  But in the end, the petition is a waste of paper that it&#8217;s printed on.</p>
<p>WHEN since 2000 was the last time that any petition had any bearing on these trash in power?&#8230;considering the state of things today.  That&#8217;s just the reality of the situation.</p>
<p>Lots of $$$$$$$$$$$$$ and corporate thieves are  in control.  Not petitions.</p>
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		<title>By: ned lud</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/10/losing-our-food-freedom/#comment-58127</link>
		<dc:creator>ned lud</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Oct 2009 23:10:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just signed the petition. I would also like to take this moment, as a former small family-sized dairy farmer, to publicly CONDEMN the actions of Organic Valley--Family of Farms, and the National Farmer&#039;s Organization,  two supposedly family farmer friendly organizations, both of which vilified me as a person and failed in any number of ways to counter and/or oppose  the increasingly severe measures and regulations aimed at eliminating small traditional farms and in fact added their own crimes and irresponsibility, in ways specific and deeply harmful to myself and  my family and also damaging to our farm property and livestock. I hope (hope!) to one day, make them pay in court. May God help me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just signed the petition. I would also like to take this moment, as a former small family-sized dairy farmer, to publicly CONDEMN the actions of Organic Valley&#8211;Family of Farms, and the National Farmer&#8217;s Organization,  two supposedly family farmer friendly organizations, both of which vilified me as a person and failed in any number of ways to counter and/or oppose  the increasingly severe measures and regulations aimed at eliminating small traditional farms and in fact added their own crimes and irresponsibility, in ways specific and deeply harmful to myself and  my family and also damaging to our farm property and livestock. I hope (hope!) to one day, make them pay in court. May God help me.</p>
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		<title>By: byerly woodward</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/10/losing-our-food-freedom/#comment-58126</link>
		<dc:creator>byerly woodward</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Oct 2009 23:08:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Surely there are some good candidates who are not so totally tied to agribusiness.  People ahead of special interests--remember?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Surely there are some good candidates who are not so totally tied to agribusiness.  People ahead of special interests&#8211;remember?</p>
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