Comments on: Is Capitalism on the Ropes? http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/10/is-capitalism-on-the-ropes/ a radical newsletter in the struggle for peace and social justice Thu, 08 Dec 2011 15:07:30 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Deadbeat http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/10/is-capitalism-on-the-ropes/#comment-58050 Deadbeat Sat, 31 Oct 2009 01:26:54 +0000 http://dissidentvoice.org/?p=11513#comment-58050 The left is terribly weak and has drifted from firms principles now for decades. Kudos for the folks at Monthly Review for their steadfast adherence. Lots of work to to be done. The left is terribly weak and has drifted from firms principles now for decades. Kudos for the folks at Monthly Review for their steadfast adherence. Lots of work to to be done.

]]> By: bozhidar balkas vancouver http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/10/is-capitalism-on-the-ropes/#comment-58035 bozhidar balkas vancouver Fri, 30 Oct 2009 15:24:15 +0000 http://dissidentvoice.org/?p=11513#comment-58035 Don glen doesn't see that at least some americans are less free now than they were centuries ago. Some people were that free that they even owned,whipped,and lynched people. I wonder whether that freedom will be restored? Americans, among many peoples, still enjoy freedom to kill/maim children; destroy their homes, help other 'freedomites' to expel, maim,kill, imprison people and steal their land. Maybe, beck is right?! Those freeedoms US now enyoys with gusto may be threatened!!? tnx Don
glen doesn’t see that at least some americans are less free now than they were centuries ago. Some people were that free that they even owned,whipped,and lynched people.

I wonder whether that freedom will be restored? Americans, among many peoples, still enjoy freedom to kill/maim children; destroy their homes, help other ‘freedomites’ to expel, maim,kill, imprison people and steal their land.

Maybe, beck is right?! Those freeedoms US now enyoys with gusto may be threatened!!? tnx

]]> By: Laurence Lowe http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/10/is-capitalism-on-the-ropes/#comment-57999 Laurence Lowe Fri, 30 Oct 2009 02:22:11 +0000 http://dissidentvoice.org/?p=11513#comment-57999 Wasn't it George Bernard Shaw that said The reason that socialism never succeeded in America was because there are no poor people there - only millionaires temporally down on their luck. Wasn’t it George Bernard Shaw that said
The reason that socialism never succeeded in America was because there are no poor people there – only millionaires temporally down on their luck.

]]> By: Don Hawkins http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/10/is-capitalism-on-the-ropes/#comment-57992 Don Hawkins Thu, 29 Oct 2009 22:58:51 +0000 http://dissidentvoice.org/?p=11513#comment-57992 Michael, Fred, Mike after reading your article I watched Fox New's the Glenn Beck Show. Glenn tonight said our very freedom is under attack and this administration is trying to take over the media and want's to control our thoughts. In the last part of his show he pulled a curtain on the old chalkboard and showed the founding fathers Washington, Jefferson and said they were revolutionaries the good kind and then turned the chalkboard over and there was many in this administration also revolutionaries the bad kind. I wonder how many people saw this crap and thought man this country is going to hell when does that tea party bus get close to us? Of course it's more than that as to be outrageous is the name of the game to get ratings and make money. It really isn't outrageous but stupidity and I guess people like it. It really is strangeness to watch the human race at the crossroads and how this play's out. Instead of using the knowledge we have the so called leaders have gone the other way where fiction is fact and the race is on to see who can be the dumbest one of all. We don't need Nostradamus to tell us what is coming down the track. The last report from the Arctic was not good new's. Most of the ice will be gone in ten years and in twenty crops Worldwide fighting to survive and the oceans on the rise with flooding and drought the norm and very sure a few surprises. On the Beck show tomorrow he will have this man on who is quite literally, crazy and talk about why climate change is no big deal and we need to fight this cap and trade bill. The cap and trade bill does little to solve anything and a joke on the human race and we need to fight that, ok, strangeness. You have many leaders at times tell us how serious climate change is and then they go to a commercial break. I just want to see how this winter play's out and next summer. It appears a temperature spike Worldwide coming in 4 to 5 years and then just more on the way. The Arctic is now about 7 degrees above normal and will double in just a few years and the Northern Hemisphere well there's change you can believe in. What will be our gravest dangers? “Not from climate change itself, but indirectly from starvation, competition for space and resources, and war.” (16) Warlords? Yes, of course. “Despite all our efforts to retreat sustainably, we may be unable to prevent a global decline into a chaotic world ruled by brutal war lords on a devastated Earth.” James Lovelock It start's in a very real way in ten years or there about's. There is a little time to try and slow this down and not so much an economic system but a Herculean effort with very hard choices and everything should be made as simple as possible but not simpler. Is the economic system we have now simple or health care bill, simple or cap and trade bill, simple, I think not. Now let's see Copenhagen then the climate bill in the States and see if we hear about global decline into a chaotic world ruled by brutal war lords on a devastated Earth. Does that seem crazy what I just wrote well the best minds we have now have only been telling us that very thing for a good ten years now and now it's time for a commercial message from our sponsor. "Are you out of a job do you need money well my system is a full proof way to make money the easy way and for just twenty trillion dollars order my system". "Oh and you can work from home". "Call, call now". Michael, Fred, Mike after reading your article I watched Fox New’s the Glenn Beck Show. Glenn tonight said our very freedom is under attack and this administration is trying to take over the media and want’s to control our thoughts. In the last part of his show he pulled a curtain on the old chalkboard and showed the founding fathers Washington, Jefferson and said they were revolutionaries the good kind and then turned the chalkboard over and there was many in this administration also revolutionaries the bad kind. I wonder how many people saw this crap and thought man this country is going to hell when does that tea party bus get close to us? Of course it’s more than that as to be outrageous is the name of the game to get ratings and make money. It really isn’t outrageous but stupidity and I guess people like it. It really is strangeness to watch the human race at the crossroads and how this play’s out. Instead of using the knowledge we have the so called leaders have gone the other way where fiction is fact and the race is on to see who can be the dumbest one of all. We don’t need Nostradamus to tell us what is coming down the track. The last report from the Arctic was not good new’s. Most of the ice will be gone in ten years and in twenty crops Worldwide fighting to survive and the oceans on the rise with flooding and drought the norm and very sure a few surprises. On the Beck show tomorrow he will have this man on who is quite literally, crazy and talk about why climate change is no big deal and we need to fight this cap and trade bill. The cap and trade bill does little to solve anything and a joke on the human race and we need to fight that, ok, strangeness. You have many leaders at times tell us how serious climate change is and then they go to a commercial break. I just want to see how this winter play’s out and next summer. It appears a temperature spike Worldwide coming in 4 to 5 years and then just more on the way. The Arctic is now about 7 degrees above normal and will double in just a few years and the Northern Hemisphere well there’s change you can believe in.

What will be our gravest dangers? “Not from climate change itself, but indirectly from starvation, competition for space and resources, and war.” (16)

Warlords? Yes, of course. “Despite all our efforts to retreat sustainably, we may be unable to prevent a global decline into a chaotic world ruled by brutal war lords on a devastated Earth.” James Lovelock

It start’s in a very real way in ten years or there about’s. There is a little time to try and slow this down and not so much an economic system but a Herculean effort with very hard choices and everything should be made as simple as possible but not simpler. Is the economic system we have now simple or health care bill, simple or cap and trade bill, simple, I think not. Now let’s see Copenhagen then the climate bill in the States and see if we hear about global decline into a chaotic world ruled by brutal war lords on a devastated Earth. Does that seem crazy what I just wrote well the best minds we have now have only been telling us that very thing for a good ten years now and now it’s time for a commercial message from our sponsor. “Are you out of a job do you need money well my system is a full proof way to make money the easy way and for just twenty trillion dollars order my system”. “Oh and you can work from home”. “Call, call now”.

]]> By: bozhidar balkas vancouver http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/10/is-capitalism-on-the-ropes/#comment-57975 bozhidar balkas vancouver Thu, 29 Oct 2009 18:40:52 +0000 http://dissidentvoice.org/?p=11513#comment-57975 Please don't talk to me ab. capitalism, i finished last in my class. I only obtain a miniscule clue ab. how to define or understand that beast. And then i note, that no generalization or overgeneralization can be understood. That makes my day. But i do detect that the word "communism", tho on same level as the word "capitalism", is imbued with much dysphemism and the word "capitalism" with much euphemism. Thus, an open and honest discussion of the two isms is not possible in US. It is like studying or talking ab. two feces: one stinks and the other does not; so, the other wld be studied or even disturbed to discover more blessings in it and the first even destroyed. If US econo-military might is decreasing, one cause for it may be that the smartest people are no longer immigrating into US. They are needed in europe, asia, afrika. Their geniuses do not come any longer to US, either. OK, just a thought. tnx Please don’t talk to me ab. capitalism, i finished last in my class. I only obtain a miniscule clue ab. how to define or understand that beast.

And then i note, that no generalization or overgeneralization can be understood. That makes my day.
But i do detect that the word “communism”, tho on same level as the word “capitalism”, is imbued with much dysphemism and the word “capitalism” with much euphemism.

Thus, an open and honest discussion of the two isms is not possible in US. It is like studying or talking ab. two feces: one stinks and the other does not; so, the other wld be studied or even disturbed to discover more blessings in it and the first even destroyed.

If US econo-military might is decreasing, one cause for it may be that the smartest people are no longer immigrating into US. They are needed in europe, asia, afrika.
Their geniuses do not come any longer to US, either. OK, just a thought. tnx

]]> By: Michael Kenny http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/10/is-capitalism-on-the-ropes/#comment-57969 Michael Kenny Thu, 29 Oct 2009 17:35:43 +0000 http://dissidentvoice.org/?p=11513#comment-57969 This is good, and much better than ranting about whether the dollar is going to "crash" (however defined!) or not! What is likely to disappear is American-style unbridled capitalism. What will probably replace it is what might be called "green social market statism". A large public sector, the market as a useful mechanism, not an end in itself, a strong welfare state and an emphasis on sustainable development so as to protect the environment and thereby create stable employment. That is a political choice, not an economic one, and it will more or less automatically end the dollar's hegemonic role. Mr Whitney's previous interviewee, Professor Chinn has predicted that for not later than 2023. I would guess a little sooner, maybe 2015/16, but the lesson of the collapse of the Soviet Union is that, since the elites try to hang on to their position as long as possible and manipulate information to that end, the so-called "crash" of the US superpower and the dollar will come suddenly and unexpectedly. This is good, and much better than ranting about whether the dollar is going to “crash” (however defined!) or not! What is likely to disappear is American-style unbridled capitalism. What will probably replace it is what might be called “green social market statism”. A large public sector, the market as a useful mechanism, not an end in itself, a strong welfare state and an emphasis on sustainable development so as to protect the environment and thereby create stable employment. That is a political choice, not an economic one, and it will more or less automatically end the dollar’s hegemonic role. Mr Whitney’s previous interviewee, Professor Chinn has predicted that for not later than 2023. I would guess a little sooner, maybe 2015/16, but the lesson of the collapse of the Soviet Union is that, since the elites try to hang on to their position as long as possible and manipulate information to that end, the so-called “crash” of the US superpower and the dollar will come suddenly and unexpectedly.

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