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		<title>By: Dave Schwab</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/10/barely-a-peep-escalation-unopposed/#comment-57500</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave Schwab</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2009 22:40:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>President Obama will soon decide whether to send as many as 60,000 additional U.S. soldiers to the war in Afghanistan.

Let&#039;s urge Obama to earn his 2009 Nobel Peace Prize. Tell him to withdraw troops from Afghanistan -- not send more.

http://bit.ly/noafghansurge</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>President Obama will soon decide whether to send as many as 60,000 additional U.S. soldiers to the war in Afghanistan.</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s urge Obama to earn his 2009 Nobel Peace Prize. Tell him to withdraw troops from Afghanistan &#8212; not send more.</p>
<p><a href="http://bit.ly/noafghansurge" rel="nofollow">http://bit.ly/noafghansurge</a></p>
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		<title>By: Annie Ladysmith</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/10/barely-a-peep-escalation-unopposed/#comment-57443</link>
		<dc:creator>Annie Ladysmith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2009 06:42:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, your government, whore to the Illuminati, sold you down the road in Vietnam, your lawfully elected, anti-Vietnam president, was murdered IN BROAD DAYLIGHT and people let it happen and then let the governments Warren &#039;Commission&#039; tell them lies, and you think the Oil Wars are going to somehow &#039;cool&#039; down and the troops will come home?

WAKE UP!  Your government is NOT a republic, your government is a whore.  Your government does not care about you or your father or your son, and is in fact lethal to your notion of living unmolested in a &#039;free&#039; country.  It is already too late.  It does not really matter if the &#039;guns&#039; are taken from the American people because the latest arsenal from the so called &#039;military-complex&#039; are so deadly, from so far away, that a mere AK-47 is not going to stop their soul-scalped goons.

There has been times in history were people needed to take a stand and put there lives on the line to stop this madness, one of those times was when JFK was shot down like a criminal, they got away with it and nothing good has happened since.  What do you expect now?  i will tell you what to expect, ENSLAVEMENT.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, your government, whore to the Illuminati, sold you down the road in Vietnam, your lawfully elected, anti-Vietnam president, was murdered IN BROAD DAYLIGHT and people let it happen and then let the governments Warren &#8216;Commission&#8217; tell them lies, and you think the Oil Wars are going to somehow &#8216;cool&#8217; down and the troops will come home?</p>
<p>WAKE UP!  Your government is NOT a republic, your government is a whore.  Your government does not care about you or your father or your son, and is in fact lethal to your notion of living unmolested in a &#8216;free&#8217; country.  It is already too late.  It does not really matter if the &#8216;guns&#8217; are taken from the American people because the latest arsenal from the so called &#8216;military-complex&#8217; are so deadly, from so far away, that a mere AK-47 is not going to stop their soul-scalped goons.</p>
<p>There has been times in history were people needed to take a stand and put there lives on the line to stop this madness, one of those times was when JFK was shot down like a criminal, they got away with it and nothing good has happened since.  What do you expect now?  i will tell you what to expect, ENSLAVEMENT.</p>
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		<title>By: lichen</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/10/barely-a-peep-escalation-unopposed/#comment-57374</link>
		<dc:creator>lichen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Oct 2009 00:48:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bozh, I&#039;ve gotten your point, yes.  A change in the fundamental system of governance and elections is definitely what is in order.  We do need new political parties and actions, but as for the former, we need to also change the electoral system first.  I think a mass movement to bring real democracy to the US via strong reforms could include everyone across the spectrums here, because the new rules and systems would benefit everyone.  I think you&#039;re right that this kind of protest--peaceful demonstrations--is outmoded at the moment, and likely, as with, one might say, climate change, only new forms of action are likely to be effective.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bozh, I&#8217;ve gotten your point, yes.  A change in the fundamental system of governance and elections is definitely what is in order.  We do need new political parties and actions, but as for the former, we need to also change the electoral system first.  I think a mass movement to bring real democracy to the US via strong reforms could include everyone across the spectrums here, because the new rules and systems would benefit everyone.  I think you&#8217;re right that this kind of protest&#8211;peaceful demonstrations&#8211;is outmoded at the moment, and likely, as with, one might say, climate change, only new forms of action are likely to be effective.</p>
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		<title>By: bozhidar balkas vancouver</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/10/barely-a-peep-escalation-unopposed/#comment-57372</link>
		<dc:creator>bozhidar balkas vancouver</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Oct 2009 23:56:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lichen, 
I hope u have read my numerous posts in which is stress time  and again that we can change US structure of society and thus governance.
Posssibly only via two ways: Enlightenment and a political party that wld be composed of the left, right, and the-in-betweens.

Such a party shld shun ?all politics. Changing the system of governance may be evaluated as work for emancipation of ca. 98% of amers and/or giving it a more human face.

The party cld stand for only that or it cld include demands for healthcare and the right to be informed which cld be enshrined in a constitution.

It is to late for any protests unless they wld include right-left-shadesinbetween and u&#039;d had at least 100 mn protesters-resistors. tnx</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lichen,<br />
I hope u have read my numerous posts in which is stress time  and again that we can change US structure of society and thus governance.<br />
Posssibly only via two ways: Enlightenment and a political party that wld be composed of the left, right, and the-in-betweens.</p>
<p>Such a party shld shun ?all politics. Changing the system of governance may be evaluated as work for emancipation of ca. 98% of amers and/or giving it a more human face.</p>
<p>The party cld stand for only that or it cld include demands for healthcare and the right to be informed which cld be enshrined in a constitution.</p>
<p>It is to late for any protests unless they wld include right-left-shadesinbetween and u&#8217;d had at least 100 mn protesters-resistors. tnx</p>
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		<title>By: bozhidar balkas vancouver</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/10/barely-a-peep-escalation-unopposed/#comment-57371</link>
		<dc:creator>bozhidar balkas vancouver</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Oct 2009 23:56:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lichen, 
I hope u have read my numerous posts in which is stress time  and again that we can change US structure of society and thus governance.
Posssibly only via two ways: Enlightenment and a political party that wld be composed of the left, right, and the-in-betweens.

Such a party shld shun ?all politics. Changing the system of governance may be evaluated as work for emancipation of ca. 98% of amers and/or giving it a more human face.

The party cld stand for only that or it cld include demands for healthcare and the right to be informed which cld be enshrined in a constitution.

It is to late for any protests unless they wld include right-left-shadesinbetween and u&#039;d had at least 100 mn protesters-resistors. tnx</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lichen,<br />
I hope u have read my numerous posts in which is stress time  and again that we can change US structure of society and thus governance.<br />
Posssibly only via two ways: Enlightenment and a political party that wld be composed of the left, right, and the-in-betweens.</p>
<p>Such a party shld shun ?all politics. Changing the system of governance may be evaluated as work for emancipation of ca. 98% of amers and/or giving it a more human face.</p>
<p>The party cld stand for only that or it cld include demands for healthcare and the right to be informed which cld be enshrined in a constitution.</p>
<p>It is to late for any protests unless they wld include right-left-shadesinbetween and u&#8217;d had at least 100 mn protesters-resistors. tnx</p>
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		<title>By: lichen</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/10/barely-a-peep-escalation-unopposed/#comment-57355</link>
		<dc:creator>lichen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Oct 2009 21:53:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It isn&#039;t surprising that many start to see it as a lost cause; after years of protesting, we just get more war, and we get hit with sound cannons and other weapons that didn&#039;t exist in the 1960&#039;s.  That fucking comparison really needs to die already.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It isn&#8217;t surprising that many start to see it as a lost cause; after years of protesting, we just get more war, and we get hit with sound cannons and other weapons that didn&#8217;t exist in the 1960&#8242;s.  That fucking comparison really needs to die already.</p>
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		<title>By: bozhidar balkas vancouver</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/10/barely-a-peep-escalation-unopposed/#comment-57337</link>
		<dc:creator>bozhidar balkas vancouver</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Oct 2009 17:59:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Increase of troops in afgh&#039;n signifies that nato hadn&#039;t gone into afgh&#039;n in order to ever withdraw or not to subdue pashtuns.
Withdrawal from afgh&#039;n wld encourage iraqi resistance and boost syrian/iranian hopes for not succumbing to nato&#039;s pressure.

Nato has decennia or centuries to work on afghanis. Nor does nato need care how many mercenairies it loses in afpak or iraq; the sky might be not be the limit.

In any case, it appears that 99% of americans are only a tiny bit worried ab. nato wars. And uncle sam even less than that.
The rich americans appear not to be losing their wealth. Some are getting even wealthier.
And as long US has a mn bombs, thousands of planes and devil knows how many warships, tanks, artillery pieces, spies, there is really nothing to be concerned about.
And US can and does make new and &#039;better&#039;  weapons. As for killing children and women, oh, well that&#039;s side effects; unintentional, of course.

In an empire with so many different ethnicities, each looking out for self only or defending their own selfinterests just like uncle sam does, the wars can go on.
In a country where most whites hate most white &#039;jews&#039;, blacks, latins, catholics, protestants, muslims, socialists, gays and vice versa, one cld say just a few thousands of the greatest liars can easily control 340mns amers.
tnx</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Increase of troops in afgh&#8217;n signifies that nato hadn&#8217;t gone into afgh&#8217;n in order to ever withdraw or not to subdue pashtuns.<br />
Withdrawal from afgh&#8217;n wld encourage iraqi resistance and boost syrian/iranian hopes for not succumbing to nato&#8217;s pressure.</p>
<p>Nato has decennia or centuries to work on afghanis. Nor does nato need care how many mercenairies it loses in afpak or iraq; the sky might be not be the limit.</p>
<p>In any case, it appears that 99% of americans are only a tiny bit worried ab. nato wars. And uncle sam even less than that.<br />
The rich americans appear not to be losing their wealth. Some are getting even wealthier.<br />
And as long US has a mn bombs, thousands of planes and devil knows how many warships, tanks, artillery pieces, spies, there is really nothing to be concerned about.<br />
And US can and does make new and &#8216;better&#8217;  weapons. As for killing children and women, oh, well that&#8217;s side effects; unintentional, of course.</p>
<p>In an empire with so many different ethnicities, each looking out for self only or defending their own selfinterests just like uncle sam does, the wars can go on.<br />
In a country where most whites hate most white &#8216;jews&#8217;, blacks, latins, catholics, protestants, muslims, socialists, gays and vice versa, one cld say just a few thousands of the greatest liars can easily control 340mns amers.<br />
tnx</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Kenny</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/10/barely-a-peep-escalation-unopposed/#comment-57335</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Kenny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Oct 2009 17:38:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There are two &quot;then and now&quot; differences, both of them connected to the middle class and, indeed, connected to each other. Most importantly, there is no draft.  Middle class kids are not being forced to go and fight. They, and their parents, can thus get what they want without having to demonstrate. Secondly, the civil rights movement popularised demonstrations, which had only been occasional events before that. The white middle class kids didn&#039;t see why the blacks should have all the fun! Since King was determined to keep his movement from being hijacked by white liberals, they could only play a secondary role in the civil rights movement, so they went and found something else. LBJ served it up to them! No such stimulus exists today.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are two &#8220;then and now&#8221; differences, both of them connected to the middle class and, indeed, connected to each other. Most importantly, there is no draft.  Middle class kids are not being forced to go and fight. They, and their parents, can thus get what they want without having to demonstrate. Secondly, the civil rights movement popularised demonstrations, which had only been occasional events before that. The white middle class kids didn&#8217;t see why the blacks should have all the fun! Since King was determined to keep his movement from being hijacked by white liberals, they could only play a secondary role in the civil rights movement, so they went and found something else. LBJ served it up to them! No such stimulus exists today.</p>
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